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A Montreal Myth Revisited

Yesterday I started a look at the groups that make up the Toronto Maple Leafs' fanbase with the most obnoxious of them all: The Oblivious Know-It-All. Somehow, I managed to forget their favourite hobby horse: blaming the Leafs' failures on the fans' loyalty. Thank God The Omen was around to remind me by writing this article. You see, if the Leafs would just abandon their team until just before they won a championship (better to wait until they win just in case) then it would force MLSE to ice a winner. Their favourite case study? The Montreal Canadiens.

Looking back just seven years, it's hard to believe the Montreal Canadiens were arguably at the lowest point in their marvellous history.

Nobody wanted to buy the team when Molson put it on the block. Few liked the spacious replacement for the historic Forum, 5,000 to 6,000 seats were unsold most nights and the team was in the midst of missing the playoffs four times in five years.

I've written about the Montreal Myth before but if Damien gets to recycle an article I will too. At least I know there will be some new readers seeing this for the first time.

There is a theory among the ill-informed that what will topple MLSE will be some sort of revolution by the put-upon proletariat. MF37 handily disproves that falsehood. The truth is that the vast majority of the money that MLSE rakes in comes in from their corporate brethren and if the French Revolution taught us anything it's that the nobility tend to stick together (and eventually get beheaded together but sadly Peddie and the MLSE board are likely safe from that fate...for now) so there is no respite in sight via that avenue.

So the next time someone says that Leaf fans need to stay away from the ACC to help save the Leafs laugh in their faces because they are completely clueless.

To find out more about the more insidious falsehood follow me after the jump.

Star-divide

The most dangerous lie of our time arose from this great article by this great article by Kim Jorn in response to Working Class Howard's version of this article. He did a great job of showing how clueless the Montreal cabbie was but in the comments a blatant falsehood made an appearance. A lie that I have heard perpetrated with pride by Montrealers repeatedly and echoed by an inebriated bird-watcher:

Montrealers love their team but will voice their disapproval of management, ownership and the players on the ice by withholding their money. When the Corey/Houle/Tremblay Habs stumbled, the fans damn well let them know changes were necessary and ownership listened. I think that Ballard, Stavros and now MLSE don't ever receive that message.

You've completely missed Berger's point about Habs fans-- which isn't that they should be applauded for being front runners, but that they should be applauded for going away when the team was as bad as the Leafs are now! And that you're proudly unashamed of your unwavering support of the Blue and White when it's painfully clear that what has allowed the Leafs to languish through these forty years of mediocrity is exactly that!

Those are two well thought out comments that addressed Kim's article and showed him to be lacking in knowledge, wit, and hygiene. Or at least they would have accomplished that if they had been made in an alternate universe where Habs fans had in fact gone away from their team in the past 15 years when they have been terrible much more often than not. Sure, the team is riding high after winning the East during the regular season last year but that's one good year since they won the Cup.

Unfortunately, in this reality, Habs fans have not wrought change with their Karl Marx-led revolt against George Gillett. The real improvement that is finally being seen came because their President, Pierre Boivin, was given the backing by ownership to bring in a proven winner as General Manager, Bob Gainey.

The truth is that Habs fans have happily continued to go see their heroes in droves and plunked down their hard-earned cash (one assumes but never really knows in a town like Montreal) to see the team that they love and they should be applauded for their devotion. Exhibit A in the case versus the alterers of history is below. Keep in mind that while that that trio of 94% seasons seem like some sort of exodus they were still good enough to rank in the top two in the NHL for average attendance. Not only that but if you take a closer look you'll see that those average attendances were still enough to outnumber the average number of Leafs fans that suffered in the ACC during that same period.

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So we can finally put the canard that Habs fans are so otherwordly knowledgeable about hockey that they sacrificed their chance to see their adored bleu, blanc, et rouge in order to bring about change to rest. MF37's two comments hit back on the argument that individual ticket buyers can influence change since they comprise such a small portion of ticket revenue. The Leafs makes $1.9M a game. How much of that do you think comes from the SRO, Blues and Greens? As for the 5,000-6,000 unsold tickets, that is quite the claim. Either Boivin is lying or the NHL is snowing everyone under with their attendance figures. Regardless, I call bullshit. 

To sum things up, MZ probably does it best:

More than any of that, though, is how ridiculously unfair it is for guys like you and Berger to blame the fans. Teams like the Leafs and the Red Sox have real fans, and there's no getting around that. It's why, as Kim Jorn rightly points out, a boycott won't work. If Leaf fans as a species survived the asteroid impact of the '80s, we'll survive this season. But don't you dare suggest that it's because we won't flick some internal switch and abandon a losing team (a trait [Ed.'s Note: which doesn't in fact exist] in Habs fans that you applaud) [now] that we have a losing team. It's not our fault that there's been some serious bungling at the management level. It's not our fault when players get injured. Losing 8-0 to the Panthers was in no way our fault.

*Indicates a season shared between the old arena (Maple Leaf Gardens and The Forum) and the new arena (The Air Canada Centre and the Molson/Bell Centre)

** Attendance figures before the 2000-2001 season came courtesy of Andrew's Stars Page who thankfully archived the old ESPN numbers. The number from 2000-2001 onward come from the ESPN Average Attendance page.

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I like how over the last 6 years or so, capacity at the ACC has been over 100%! EAT IT, MOLSON CENTRE! ALSO FIRE MARSHALL BILL!

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

“If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit.”

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang that was meant to be a reply to above

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clay Buchholz looks like Fire Marshall Bill, go Sox.

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Rays

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

A blast from the past

Damn, that was fun to reread.

You know, I’m pretty well-known as a hardcore Leaf fan, to the point where I will sometimes wear my Potvin jersey at home while watching TV (though not for a while after the last time I did it – Saturday). Do you know how many Leaf games I’ve attended at the ACC?

0.

How many period?

1.

WE ARE NOT THE PROBLEM

by Godd Till on Oct 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I wear my Leafs jerseys to the grocery store, and on other errands.

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wear

my “TUCKER 16” shirt around a lot in Vancouver. I almost always get a nod or a ‘nice shirt’ from another exiled member of the Nation.

by Godd Till on Oct 17, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wear

Maple Leafs Boxers. Daily.

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wore

My Leafs jersey and hat to for a day once and I was bombarded by shouts of “GO LEAFS GO” every 5 minutes and got more then a few friendly honks on the highway.

"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)

by Winkle on Oct 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re supposed to wear fresh underwear each day, eyebleaf.

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

for the tip Chemmy. I have 7 pairs of Maple Leaf boxers. Duh.

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

wellwood waived.

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck

Already! Dammit. His one game in Vancouver (getting levelled by Ovie and taking a bad penalty that led to a goal) was memorable.

by Godd Till on Oct 17, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

More time for doughnuts.

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I

The only one who feels a little bit sorry for him? I mean he had a spectacular year with Toronto then he got hurt and his career just went down the drain.

"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)

by Winkle on Oct 17, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he has amazing talent but just no work ethic whatsoever. If anything, it’s pretty infuriating. If he would treat playing in the nhl like an actual JOB (ie, working at getting in shape etc) he could have a very decent career.

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I try

to avoid a lot of Wellwood is fat jokes just because the thought of how he went downhill so hard and so fast depresses me.

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Oct 17, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, shoulda had a pool for that. I woulda said november though

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reality

Is that MLSE is owned by the Teacher’s Pension Plan, which is the most freaking richest pension plan in the existence of human civilization.

It doesn’t even matter if Leafs fan abandoned the team suddenly, there will still be suits filling the platinum seats!!

Plus, the TPP just bought BELL CANADA, they will be raking in unholy amounts of cash regardless.

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by Winkle on Oct 17, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow..

I just realized.. If the BCE deal goes through, does that mean TPP will be able to name “Le Centre Bell” whatever since they have naming rights?

“Habs Suck Centre”, anyone?

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahaha.

“Welcome to the… (sigh) Stinktown Crappy Jerks Arena, for tonight’s matchup between the Habs and the Rangers.”

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLSE could run a naming contest! Sorta like what Boston did with theirs.. Good times!

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap

that’d be awesome

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Oct 17, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winkle

I like your quote, but I spell my name with 2 ds and I’m in Vancouver, not Peterborough. I really liked Wellwood’s game that year and really had high hopes for him. My disappointment is tempered by dismay that dude just doesn;t want it at all.

by Godd Till on Oct 17, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stoeten

Whatever happened to that baseball-lovin’ habs’ apologist? He’s got a great Jays blog, but has he ever come back ’round these parts?

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by mf37 on Oct 17, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

He came by

to criticize Cox Bloc a few times, then stopped. I would not call DJF ‘great.’

by Godd Till on Oct 17, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He thinks

all other blogs pale in comparison. And they’re stingy on the links.

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Hasn’t come back. I like DJF, it can be funny. Plus Stoeten arguing with anonymous commenters is hilarious.

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stoeten

definitely, absolutely 100%, has high blood pressure. That guy gets worked up.

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We shouldn’t pool our money and buy the Leafs… we should pool our money and buy the Canadiens to run them into the ground.

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably a lot cheaper too

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

An ideal experiment

If Leaf fans buy the habs and the Habs win the cup then the argument that Leaf fan wallets=failure and misery will be dealt with once and for all.

But if the Habs flounder, will it be safe to say that the wallets of Leaf nation truly are a curse?

I think it’s worth it to find out…

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by mf37 on Oct 17, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m checkin my coin bucket for toonies right now!

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Step One

Change jersey colours to pink

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade all of their prospects to the KHL.

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by Chemmy on Oct 17, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

fashion shows twice a day!

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Oct 17, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cox

Loves to leave out little details. Like how Montrealers abandoning their team did NOT work with the Expos. Also, Quebecors abandoned the Nordiques. I suppose that worked, as they did win a cup the very next year.

Cox plays the role of antagonist well. His editors must love it. I say we ignore the idiot and with his loss of negative popularity, maybe he’ll give up this anti-Leafs-everything-for-the-sake-of-it-because-I-like-attention schtick.

by The Muppet on Oct 17, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent Point

I’ve already forgotten about the Expos and Nordiques.

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by Winkle on Oct 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHAHA

Game. Set. Match.

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zombies

The “blame the fan” argument is like some sort of zombie. No matter how many times you think it’s dead or rational people have killed it, it just keeps coming back to get battered around some more.

There are plenty of teams that have droughts equal to or longer than the Leafs and the only thing these franchises have in common is varying degrees of meddling ownership and managerial incompetence.

The dreaded Dallas Cowboys, WCH’s favourite club, should have been an outright dynasty in the 90s but a meddling owner dicked around with the coaching staff and it arguably cost them two Super Bowls and a team that disintegrated by the end of the decade. (I presume, during those two bad seasons and the tough times that followed in the late 90s, WCH abandoned the team.)

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by mf37 on Oct 17, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The "blame the fan" argument is like some sort of zombie. No matter how many times you think it’s dead or rational people have killed it, it just keeps coming back to get battered around some more.

Needs more fire. Fire fixes everything, right?

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Oct 17, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

More fire and less rage virus. Those 28 days/weeks movies were great, but I left the theatre feeling like I’d run a marathon.

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by mf37 on Oct 17, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

28 days

also, there is an endless supply of pepsi cans

Official 28 days Later drinking game

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Oct 17, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If movies have tought me anything

get a shotgun, and crowbar and aim for the head.
Or cut off your hand and attach a chain saw to it, then quip clever one liners as you saw things to peices.

Because Taking The Leafs Seriously Is Not An Option

by JaredFromLondon on Oct 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, don’t pretend your friend isn’t bitten. Blow their brains out before they eat yours.

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the secret is

get em before they get bit, if your all alone there is no one who can suddenly turn into a zombie and bite your unsuspecting fleshy bits.

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 17, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fellas at Four Habs Fans

are throwin down.

http://fourhabsfans.blogspot.com/2008/10/montreal-toronto-empty-seats-and-empty.html

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by eyebleaf on Oct 17, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

its all relative - your argument is meaningless

In the tough years of the mid nineties, I could walk up to the Molson Center and buy prime seats from scalpers below cost just before game time …and for a game against the Penguins (who were stacked at the time) …try doing that now.

Your argument is meaningless. The number of seats being empty has little to do with it (there will always be someone that will buy a seat at some price in either Montreal or Toronto) …its how easy it is to get a seat that matters.

by bytheway on Oct 17, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Wrong

The argument is that Montrealers staying away resulted in a change in ownership. The reply is that the small numbers that did stay away only brought the Habs’ attendance down to normal levels (the Bell Centre is the largest building in the NHL).

You bought tickets from scalpers at below face value? What do you think that the Habs got for the ticket? Not what you paid for it.

Not to mention that the argument in reply seems to be that people were able to buy the cheap tickets by walking up the day of the game. As was outlined in the linked posts/comments, those fans don’t drive revenue, corporate fans do and they were not staying away.

Thanks for joining though hopefully we’ll see you around during the next Habs’ game.

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, I just did something stupid and read Cox’s article there. What a sloppy BJ for Gillett, made me want to throw up.

by LeafFanInVan on Oct 17, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I find it funny that he loves being a man of the people but his partner in Liverpool, Tom Hicks, and his family can’t walk through Liverpool without being accosted for their tinkering.

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by PPP on Oct 17, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t walk through Liverpool without being accosted

A little too easy for the tip-in, even for me

by Mattblack on Oct 17, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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