Karma Catches Up With Toronto

by Chemmy on Nov 2, 2008 7:33 PM EST in Game Recaps

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Holding on to a 3-1 lead Toronto gave up three goals in three minutes in the second period en route to losing 6-4 to Carolina.

Good effort by the Leafs in the last half of the third, but Toronto looked really complacent with the 3-1 lead and it came back to burn them.

Some quick hits about the game:

Curtis Joseph looks like a 41 year old goaltender out there, he's completely out of his league. With Toskala in net this is an easy two points for the Leafs. Toronto should consider demoting Joseph to the Marlies and bringing in another backup.
It worked for and against both teams, but the ice in Raleigh was atrocious tonight, probably due to it being covered up for the NC State Fair.
The five on three that Carolina capitalized on happened on two absolutely marginal calls, Colaiacovo's "closed hand on puck" and a Kubina "trip" that no one saw.
Grabovski had a pair of beauties, White's goal to open the game was a great play, and Hagman slamming a bouncing puck off the far post and in was jaw dropping.

Thanks to everyone who came out and commented. Blah.

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Berger on Leafs TV!!

He was astonished by the Leafs’ energy…lovely argyle sweater.

by clark4calder on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM EST reply actions

He’s such a dipshit. I’m going to make dinner before the Patriots game.

The Pats better run train on the Colts.

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by Chemmy on Nov 2, 2008 7:36 PM EST up reply actions

I’m going to eat ribs and consume more beer.

by clark4calder on Nov 2, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions

Douche

So he’s on talking about the great energy and how the Leafs would have won that game with rest.

I guess he’s afraid of calling us out on TV.

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by PPP on Nov 2, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

that way Leaf fans who arnt paying attention to what he looks like suddenly would, and he wouldnt be able to walk a street anywhere in Canada

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 2, 2008 7:49 PM EST up reply actions

nice picture

I love the look white is giving Moore. Part “whatchulookinat?” and Part “you want in?”

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by loser domi on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM EST reply actions

Just two dudes huggin

Whats up?

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by Archimedies on Nov 2, 2008 7:36 PM EST up reply actions

no homo

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by loser domi on Nov 3, 2008 9:47 AM EST up reply actions

no cry?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions

Seriously, Carlo looks like a big Eye-talian teddy bear there

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by loser domi on Nov 3, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions

POST GAME 1-ON-1 WITH HOWARD BERGER

Death

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by Archimedies on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM EST reply actions

fail

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by Archimedies on Nov 2, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions

Oh he was just so glowing…but where were the comments about sheep and koolaid?? I am trying so hard not to care about him but he’s such a little puke.

by clark4calder on Nov 2, 2008 7:36 PM EST up reply actions

you got the bingo card out?

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by loser domi on Nov 2, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah…nada…I suppose since he was on the MLSE channel, he felt he had to be politically correct so he’d get his $15 cheque for appearing.

by clark4calder on Nov 2, 2008 7:38 PM EST up reply actions

Also...

Not sure if anyone noticed, but Carlo didnt play at all in the 3rd…

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by Archimedies on Nov 2, 2008 7:41 PM EST reply actions

When asked if it were an injury or a benching

Wilson said: A little bit of both, he got hit with a puck and was limping, and we had Ian White ready to go.

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by Archimedies on Nov 2, 2008 7:41 PM EST up reply actions

True

I liked his willingness to hit. Oh well. The Leafs need games like this one to remind them that they aren’t actually that good. They can’t coast.

Of course, Kerry Fucking Fraser didn’t help.

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by PPP on Nov 2, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions

Just when I thought I couldn’t hate Kerry Fraser any more, that douche goes and sucks the life out of em with two bad calls for that 5 on 3

fuck him, fuck his couch, fuck his birthday and fuck his couches birthday

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM EST reply actions

and his couch’s mom!

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by loser domi on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions

and his couch’s mom’s nirthday!

to much?

Anybody throws me against the boards I'm gonna piss all over myself.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 2, 2008 9:44 PM EST up reply actions

I know I’ve come to terms that we wont win alot of games this year, but I still get upset when we get ripped off like that.

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 2, 2008 7:51 PM EST reply actions

Pretty much.

The thing is, if we play a lot of young guys and they look like a solid if untalented core, I think it will help Toronto attract big name UFAs to complement some decent first rounders from the next two seasons.

Even if Toronto doesn’t grab a lottery pick, hanging out to their first rounder and developing those players will add a lot to this team.

At least tonight’s game was exciting.

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by Chemmy on Nov 2, 2008 7:54 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah

But these kinds of games are always good teaching moments for Captain Ron. Plus, after the last game they lost that they should have won the Leafs beat the Devils and the Rangers.

But let’s not overlook the big discovery:

F**k Tank Nation is maplebud!

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by PPP on Nov 2, 2008 7:59 PM EST up reply actions

just a guess, but a reasonable one at that

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by loser domi on Nov 2, 2008 8:01 PM EST up reply actions

Oh, he just got called on it and got pissed and basically admitted it.

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by PPP on Nov 2, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions

for serious? man, i’m glad i’m not him

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by loser domi on Nov 2, 2008 8:07 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, I am glad that none of you are him anymore.

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by PPP on Nov 2, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions

Maplebud?

Damnit, I miss everything when I work.

Stupid job.

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 2, 2008 8:11 PM EST up reply actions

stupid needing work for money to buy stuff

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by loser domi on Nov 2, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions

Booze dont buy itself

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 2, 2008 8:16 PM EST up reply actions

I was here for the whole game...

and i still don’t know who Maplebud is/was. I dont remember reading a single one of his comments.

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by Archimedies on Nov 2, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions

go here...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=56028&page=2

he’s about 10 or so comments down from the top…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 2, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

Bahaha

What a goober, he seemed to like this place well enough until he got banned for being a freak tard

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 2, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions

seriously, you guys

what DOES a puck look like?

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by loser domi on Nov 3, 2008 9:41 AM EST up reply actions

Sorry...

but i don’t think this was all Cujo’s fault. I can recall at least 3 clearing attempts by the D (Kubina and Kaberle in particular) during the third period alone, that were brutal. A lot of failing to clear the front of the net cleanly is what bit them on the but. The wraparound was a weak goal, but the others were more the fault of bad zone coverage and turning over the puck.

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by blurr1974 on Nov 2, 2008 9:50 PM EST reply actions

They weren’t solely Cujo’s to take the blame for, the Leafs didn’t clear the front of the net very well. But he also wasn’t in very good position in his net, did you see him on the fifth goal? What exactly was he trying to cover?

Toskala needed to come in and start the third, Cujo didn’t lose the game single handedly for us but he dropped the ball with some crappy goals that we needed stopped, and the defense lost confidence in him.

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by koopa kid on Nov 2, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions

Kaberle has been brutal the past three games.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2008 12:08 AM EST up reply actions

I’m worried about him. He seems fine in the offensive end, but he looks like he’s lost interest in our zone. Does not bode well.

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by koopa kid on Nov 3, 2008 12:28 AM EST up reply actions

him paired with kubina tonight was a disaster…neither seemed capable of much on d…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions

Yup

I don’t know why he broke up Kaberle and Schenn but lesson learned.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2008 9:02 AM EST up reply actions

Wilson broke up Kaberle and Schenn because Kaberle is playing like shit and putting Schenn in terrible positions with the puck.

In the Devils game Kaberle dicked around with the puck instead of passing it, lost it, got it back, and fired it over to Schenn who was caught between an out of place linesman and a Devils player.

Kaberle needs a seat in the press box.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2008 10:50 AM EST up reply actions

agreed

a sit down would be the right thing for a lot of reasons…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions

The only thing better would be moving Kaberle while his perceived value is high.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions

i’m ok with that. dump in cujo with him, bring up pogge and give him 30-35% of the starts going forward

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions

Whoah. Whoah. Whoah.

Kaberle is consistency. He’ll bounce back. He’s always does.

Last game vs. Carolina, 1 assist, 3 shots on goal, 26:45 ice time.

vs. NY Rangers lead all skaters with 22:36 ice time, assisted on Kubina’s winning goal, 4 shots on net, +1

vs. New Jersey 26:36 ice time, he was a minus 1, but had 2 assists, and scored an important shoot-out goal.

I know we should expect a lot from our only superstar, but let’s be reasonable. He helps more then he hurts. Taking him out would be punishing the whole team. Trading him makes no sense.

by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2008 11:52 AM EST up reply actions

Kaberle would fetch a first rounder and a big prospect.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions

Chemmy you are right on about Cujo. Unfortunately, Cujo doesnt exist anymore and we are left with the empty 41 year old shell known only as Curtis Joseph. I wrote some similar comments on my blog. Its not his fault entirely, but he did fail to do his part. The defense looked bad too. Its unfortunate for Grabovski and Hagman, as they both had great games tonight.

Oh well, this was gonna happen at some point. It didnt help though that the referees were god awful.

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by Drake15 on Nov 3, 2008 3:09 AM EST reply actions

Our defense looked terrible but I’m most annoyed at Cujo for not covering the top of the net. Someone called that goal AHL caliber and they were right. Cujo squatted down as a player took steps away to make that shot possible, and watched a puck sail over his head and into the net.

Then on the next play he did the same thing, but the Hurricanes player couldn’t get the shot off. Brutal.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2008 10:51 AM EST up reply actions