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Well, ho-lee smokes. Apparently there was some big move yesterday involving the Leafs. Looking at the trade and reading reactions I realized that something was happening that hadn't happened in a long time: the Leafs were being called winners in a trade. Even a reporter in St. Louis thought so. This is a really weird feeling.

Obviously, my heart is broken. Steen and Colaiacovo were two guys that I thought were going to be big parts of the future but for whatever reason the former was forgotten by two consecutive coaches and the latter was brittle. I use the past tense because I have no doubt that per league rules Steen will now get to play with Brad Boyes where he will meet the potential that he showed in his rookie campaign and Carlo will never be injured again. I am pretty torn because obviously I want to see the Leafs win the trade in a rout and that involves both players falling off the face of the earth. At the same time, I spent so much time defending those two dummies that I want to see them light the league alight for "I told you so" purposes. I think I'll just take the hit instead because that option is too painful.

On the bright side, we can see how the Leafs will develop in Toronto as well as how they could have developed in St. Louis where they have been gleefully collecting their second and third former first round picks.

As for Lee Stempniak, he'll get every chance to succeed. It's almost certain that he'll displace Nikolai Kulemin on the Man Grabs Lemon line which turns into Man Grabs Stemps (what the hell is a Stemp?) line. As a right-handed shot he'll fill Wilson's frequently mentioned hole on the powerplay so expect that he'll be on the top unit and on 5-on-3s (0-16 so far). The trade will be tough to judge until many seasons pass but in the short-term it's probably going to look amazing for the Leafs.

So good bye and good luck to two kids that never got the shot I think that they deserved, although it's tough to get it when you're always on the trainer's table, and all the best just not against Toronto.

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It's about time!!!!

Making me wait all morning for this.

by lb71 on Nov 25, 2008 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry!

Just as I was getting the links together we had a big meeting on new furniture and shit for the office.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you get me an Aeron?

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by Chemmy on Nov 25, 2008 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You get a fluffier bench and softer handcuffs but still no light for your cell.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

your getting soft PPP

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, he was complaining that the old ones were cutting into his wrist and he was passing out from blood loss so I can’t have that. But to make up for it the guy that whips him has a toothache.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Well I stole your wallet while we were at the game, so I’m going to buy us some Christmas presents.

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by Chemmy on Nov 25, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s fine. The account’s been filled with your money by your fiancee.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

She’s actually a double agent and stole the money from your savings account.

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by Chemmy on Nov 25, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

And she fell for my trap because I actually stole HER paycheques.

Enjoy spending your own money!

And don’t buy an Antropov jersey.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Or a Schenn jersey

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

please just stop buying jerseys for a while…

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

This makes me sad I love jerseys. :(

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by Chemmy on Nov 25, 2008 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

stick to old players like I do, Sundin, Gilmour, Clark, Potvin, et all

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Chemmy buys Clark jersey...

Clark banner in the ACC gets traded to Atlanta…

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Chemmym, I dare you

buy Blake or Hollweg, just to see what happens.

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Nov 25, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

me thinks..

if this curse works. tht would mean we’d be stuck with them for ever, and they’d probably have jersey ceremonies for them…

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Just don’t let it happen again. Next time I may be forced to read Berger for my morning fix…..

by lb71 on Nov 25, 2008 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa, lets not get crazy, suicide isnt the answer

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Yikes

Hopefully it doesn’t come to that again.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming

Stemps is going to continue to rock #12.

The only other #12 I can think of is Rob mother fucking Pearson. Perhaps he shouldn’t don good old Rob’s number…

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

#12

See the LotD….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

buddy. Can’t beleaf I forgot Osborne!

He rocked.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

There is another #12 who must go forever unmentioned. I have already said too much.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Errol Thompson?

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Think Peter Zezel and Grant Marshall

Then go cleanse your mind with industrial-strength drano or something.

Never trust anyone whose last name is also a first name….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm..
Never trust anyone whose last name is also a first name…

…you mean like Wendel…uh….“Clark”? I don’t like that rule!

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

meh

Clark isn’t a real first name.

Anyone named Clark has two last names….

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Listen to Jim Croce...

…you don’t tug on Superman’s cape!

I don’t know if “Kal-El” violates this rule or not, but Clark Kent may disagree about the surname/given name issue.

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

See

he had it backwards, that’s how you know he was an alter-ego.

He should have been Kent Clark.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Comprehension dawning.

Where the hell were you when I was trying to understand James Joyce’s Ulysses?

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm

Depending when you did it, I might have been trying to understand James Joyce’s Ulysses….

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i think...

Clark Kent would be honored to know he was named after Wendel Clark.

A shame he didn’t follow in his namesakes steps and play hockey. He’d have made a decent winger…

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Bet he could really fly out there....

OK, that was unnecessary.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as the other team didn’t play Mr._Mxyzptlk in net, all would be well.

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch Don Cherry pronounce THAT one….

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes!

He might need a dentist pronto; Ron McLean would be picking Chiclets out of his blazer pocket. Not a bad idea, all things considered.

jrwendelman
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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a good rule

and I will defend it long past the point of it’s proven inaccuracy.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Gaaaaaah!!!

I just got it. Thanks for not bringing that guy up. Now where’s my mind-Drano, anyway?

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my guess. Even if it’s wrong, it was enough to make me puke in my mouth a little bit.

jrwendelman
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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Now go cleanse the wound….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It burns!! It burns!!!

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

phew...

i thought you were referencing Steve Thomas…

i was like “when did we start hating Stumpy…?”

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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

**^#%$*$#%

Fargin’ exceptions to the rule….

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

However

Stumpy DID wear #12 in his first call-up.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

KILL IT KILL IE!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He did.

I call shenanigans on 1967ers.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 25, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

This, however, forces a computer restart so’s I can get adobe working.

I gots two pics, tho:

The boy may have wrecked TWO numbers….

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

/vomits uncontrollably

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

From mapleleafs.nhl.com

The line on the aforementioned unmentionable:

CRAIG, Mike (94/95 to 96/97)………………..RW 9 172 20 30 50 116

Results are in – Mike Craig switched numbers after training camp and Upper Deck got their pics early.

12 is safe.

Didn’t Convery wear #12? slaps self about head

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So maybe

If Craig had stuck with 12, he’d have been good….

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Good on Hagman

for rescuing 9, then.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Convery… yeah, I think he did. It was 11 or 12.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 25, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Another take on Game 7 1993

For those of you with some time, a buddy of mine (an aspiring film maker) put this together a few years back. A “what if” scenario of the Leafs vs the Hab-nots in 1993 finals. Very entertaining. Start with period 1 and work your way to OT.

http://ca.youtube.com/results?search_query=louproduction&search=Search

by lb71 on Nov 25, 2008 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Post those as Fanshots. They are awesome.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I tried one period and I suck. Help.

by lb71 on Nov 25, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I’ll do them :)

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

The thing I like most...

about this trade, is the fact that, at least over in the Oilogosphere, Stempniak is an adverb.

No one ever got Steened or Colaiacovoed. They have gotten Stempniaked though, and now, we’ll be the one’s Stempniaking them!

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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I look forward

to the Stempniaking.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

hopefully it becomes an oft used word in the Sens and Habs fans vernacular

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously..

Everyone needs to read TSM’s post again. The quote about “blue and white” disease, and the fan adoration. It’s what paralyzes this team sometimes. If Steen and Carlo were that good, then they’d be playing top line minutes already. We got a good player, who can handle top 6 minutes, put in goals, and is still responsible defensively.

I look forward to the next trade of bottom feeders. I don’t want any guy on this team who isn’t pulling his weight, and fromthe sounds of it, Carlo and Steen were not. They expected to be part of the future because they were young and were drafted by the Leafs. Forget results, they just expected to be paid for showing up. Not what this team needs.

Wilson and Cliff have done an incredible job of transforming this team. Burke will take it a step further. No one on this team is untouchable. Let’s all get OK with that, because bigger things are going to happen…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I propose that when he does something good we yell “Stempniak” like “Khan”.

STEMPNIAAAAAAAAAK

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by Chemmy on Nov 25, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

you wait..

we’re all gonna go ape-shit for this kid.

his first goal, and the ManGrabsNiak line will be first in your hearts!

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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Blue and White disease to the extent that the players seem to buy into the hype. However, almost everyone here has been focused on their potential rather than trying to make that potnetial comensurate with results. And the Blues seem to agree with that assessment.

Of course, Lee is a Leaf now (even the sports widget here recognizes it although Steen is still a Leaf, dare I hope?) so let’s see what he can do!

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

thank you!

i have no idea why so many people thought (think?) steen and colaiacovo were great young talents that never got a chance. in fact, it was the opposite. these guys got more ice times and chances from the coaches/GMs than they ever deserved!
i’m glad to be rid of the glorified third liner and a slow defenceman with bones more brittle than an 80 year old woman who never drank milk

/rant

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Parting shots, eh? Well done.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

haha its like i sucker punched them and ran, eh?

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

wait…are you Ryan Hollweg?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I’VE BEEN DISCOVERED!

NOOOOOOOOO

/runs and hides

//comes back and cross checks Jared into the boards

///runs away again

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

please stop. the hilarity is too much.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Its a good thing I hired Carlo to play my double before they shipped him off to St Louis!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I Agree

The fact that Carlo, up until this season, was guaranteed a roster spot when he came back from each grooming accident drove me nuts. I’m sick of thinking that every potential check in the corner could be career-ending just because Carlo was on the receiving end. Can’t wait until tonight’s game!

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by Haeyena on Nov 25, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlo was okay

But Steen had a special place reserved in my heart

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by Winkle on Nov 25, 2008 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I feel your pain, brother.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

So this is what it feels like

When doves cry…

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by Winkle on Nov 25, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate to say it...

but Cox makes some strong points this morning:

The Blues, on the other hand, figured that Stempniak’s 16 goals in his last 97 games were evidence of a winger who has topped out. Moreover, getting two players with combined salaries of $3.1 million (U.S.) for next season for a 25-year-old forward scheduled to make $3.5 million in the 2009-10 campaign and then become an unrestricted free agent appealed to the Blues’ financial logic.

Stempniak might indeed help the floundering Leafs score more, but that was hardly a screaming need. Moreover, Steen outscored Stempniak last season.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

but lest we forget...

how often cox ripped apart colaiacovo and steen in his column. short of trading them for getzlaf and perry, i dont think he would have kind words about any trade the leafs made

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Stten Outscored Stempniak...

because, as all the STL fans are quick to point out, he had a major knee injury, and it took a while to recover from.

Now, he’s producing at a point a game pace, and you’re pining for the lost 4 points and their “potential.”

Sorry, but Steen was on his 4th season, no major injuries, no missed opportunities. He had his chances, and when Wilson came in, he didn’t see a guy hungry to get better. Steen accepted his role as a 3rd/4th liner. Remeber Ronnie’s reaction to Blake’s outburst? “Good, he needs to be full oof piss and vinegar.” Wilson doesn’t want complacent. He wants, pissed off, hungry and ready to play guys. Steen and Carlo were never going to change…

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, I’m not saying it’s a bad trade. I’m saying that it could turn out to be risky. If Stemps explodes, he could ask for some serious dollar dollar bills. But that’s a good problem to have.

For as much as Steen and Carlo underachieved, perhaps Stemps overachieved. That’s what Cox is trying to say, and it’s not an outlandish statement.

Steen and Carlo were never going to change…

Only time will be the judge of that, good sir.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Time...

will be the judge of a lot of things, but having the benfit of being on the outside looking in at the Center of the Universe, I have to tell you, the only thing those two had going for them, was the fact they were drafted in the first round. Steen played with Sundin, he played with Stajan (the same Stajan whose now at a pont a game pace,) and he could never finish consistently. I think time has judged him already. Stempniak never played with a Sundin, but is already outproducing Steen from a career perspective.

As far as Cox making a good point, it’s the only point he can make. Did you think he was going to write about how the Leafs got the better player? Did you think he was going to have a positive opinion on anything remotely related to this trade?

it’s great to love the Leafs, but sometimes it’s not the Blakes and Hollwegs that we need to run out of town. Complacency sucks, and those two had it in spades. Same story as Wellwood. It took him almost losing his career and heading to Europe before he figured it out. Players in Tornto get worshipped at a ridiculous level sometimes, and it’s hard for them to get over themselves. If getting your ice time cut, being benched and called out by the coach doesn’t light a fire under you, what will?

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Remeber Ronnie’s reaction to Blake’s outburst? "Good, he needs to be full oof piss and vinegar." Wilson doesn’t want complacent.

That could have played a part in it. Maybe he was testing Carlo by calling him out and wanted to see what fire he had?

The one stupid criticism that I heard last night from Doug “what a surprise” MacLean and his cohort (not Millard, not Broadhead but the other dummy at Sportsnet, not Kypreos) was that they were shocked to see a rebuilding team add payroll. Idiots. Forget the fact that Stempniak is TWENTY-FIVE YEARS OLD or that they added about $500K while still being millions under the capt…idiots.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea

Leafs have plenty of cap room to play with.

They would have a valid point if Stempy is like 35 years old.

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by Winkle on Nov 25, 2008 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i don’t doubt Cliff has plans to further increase that cap room at the trade deadline.

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

cliff/burke/wilson

are creating a team of pissed off, hungry, fast skating, forechecking, back checking body checking animals, who will shoot the lights out every game.

i for one, am happy to see them casting off the dead weight. I liked Steen, and to a lesser degree, Carlo, but I think that had more to do with hopes and familiarity than results. It’s nice to have a coaching staff and management team that don’t see things that way.

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

the question is, who is next?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

this trade doesn’t assess the team’s weaknesses, anyway.

can’t stop pucks. can’t keep em out of the net. can’t kill penalties.

Cox is right in that respect.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

and...

who’s available that can? remember, they have to be a younger goalie to fit the long term plan. So that nixes Khabibulin…

when the player is available, he’ll make the move. This trade does address the need to not put up with complacency. to not get comfortable. that playing in Toronto is not the end game. More is expected than just showing up and having the fans love you.

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This trade doesn’t have to do that. It can assess other weaknesses like an entirely left-handed forward corps and a lack of legitimate young scorers.

It is entirely possible, and I am not sure if Cox is aware of this, for another trade to address the defensive needs.

Plus, of course, this trade could open up other options for the penalty kill.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

About that '3.5' M

Stemp’s cap hit is 2.5 million. Not that Cox, who also got his draft position wrong and thinks it matters where guys were drafted as opposed to how they are playing (Quick! Trade Kaberle for Alex Daigle!) cares about facts.

Also, according to Stl Game Time it appears they call Lee ‘Dutchie’ so what about the ‘Man-Grabs-Dutchie’ line? They’re sure to smoke opponents…

by Godd Till on Nov 25, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i like...

man-grabs-dutchie

we can all sing:

♫ pass to Dutchie on the right wing side ♫

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I like.

Seconded.

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed...

hopefully they won’t have to make a deal to fix the whole puck stopping issue…Toskala, wake up, mother fucker!!!!!1

i’m excited for Stemps. I scored with him in 09 in his first game. the fans love him. I LOVE HIM BLURR. already!

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by eyebleaf on Nov 25, 2008 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

word up...

i like him in #12

9 + 84 + 12 = pure gold, unicorns and sunshine. And goals!

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

for a second

my poor math skills added that up to 99 and I was all like “whoa dude that is so creepy”
then I redid the math…..

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, my math skills came up with “Hey! 9*12=84!”

That was enough to tell me I needed another coffee.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlo wouldn’t see the press after the Carolina game that Fraser called a “closing hand on puck” penalty on him, a penalty which just happened to trigger a collapse. I guess he never got the message about accountability, as Wilson said that wouldn’t happen any more before the season started.

by koopa kid on Nov 25, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Stempniak's Salary

Only counts as $2.5 million in both years

Rebuilding, not tanking

by Haeyena on Nov 25, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Schadenfreude Dept.

Aside from the gratuitous (and idiotic) potshot taken at Leaf fans in the first few paragraphs, the rest of this article by Jeffrey Simpson is fun reading for any Blue-n-White wearin’, Alfie-hatin’, what-the-hell-was-the-deal-with-that-playoff-pregame-ceremony-thinkin’ Leaf fan.

It’s awesome because it’s true.

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

the part about McGuire coaching the Sens is down right highest comedy

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

MUAHAHAHA

To quote Ben Affleck:

Look at the fucking smile on my face. Ear to ear, baby.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought you’d like that one.

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by jrwendelman on Nov 25, 2008 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS JUST IN

BURKE IS OFFICIALLY GM

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Holy crap….its thiiiiis far from happening
what a week

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

...per TSN, and the horse's mouth...
Is Brian Burke the next GM and president of the Toronto Maple Leafs? Yes, it would seem so. Is the deal complete? No, not quite yet. “It’s certainly headed in the right direction,” Burke told TSN, “but it’s not it done yet. I anticipate it will get done but it’s not done.”

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Phew

Now I have time to write my Burke Is Here! post.

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

But, but

Damien Cox told me that the Leafs had pooched it and Peddie would proside over 41 straight last place seasons… so confused….

by Godd Till on Nov 25, 2008 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

just got a text from my sources about it, done deal!

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Internets is power!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

and by sources, i dont mean the same “sources” as eklund

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Good, the sock puppets he talks to are never right

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

how’d PPP manage to get 2 members with inside sources? First, Archimedes breaks the trade yesterday, now this… good work, team!

by Karina on Nov 25, 2008 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I should be contributing more than snarky remarks and weird comments

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

snarky remarks and weird comments are what keep this site going, man!

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

that...

and bacon. although cheese is slowly making it’s way up the list…more over on Chatty Cathy!

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Nov 25, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I would also like to give a shout out to booze, for all that it has done for me

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Dayum. I needs me some sources.

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by 1967ers on Nov 25, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

k so apparently the deal is signed, the are just waiting a few days to have the press conference (probably so burke can have a nice, quiet thanksgiving with his family)

by EastLoop on Nov 25, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd just liketo apologize

To LD, for essentially stealing her schtick.

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by Archimedies on Nov 25, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

welll

the image of them smoking weed had me giggling quite a bit, especially the mad libs part

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Nov 25, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

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