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Everything ever written on this humble site about the Leafs' 13th General Manager and newest President (ousting one Richard Peddie) can be found here. If you are looking for one post to unite them all then you'll want to start with this one and work your way through the links.

Add any links that I missed in the comments.

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Who is this “Sundin” you speak of? The name seems familiar, but fuzzy … :)

Some people have got to get with the 21st century at some point. I think of a blog or a photo site like Flickr as definitely “personal use.” No one takes pictures on dead trees and stores them in shoeboxes or posts them on bulletin boards anymore, idiots. If money was being made, then they would have every right to be upset until the team got their cut, but otherwise they should butt out. Luddite troglodytic douches.

"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams

by Baroque on Nov 29, 2008 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

Wow, you guys were up early today!

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 29, 2008 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

I understand the disagreement...

I realize that Bryzgalov had to go, and I know Tellqvist had run out of chances with the Leafs.

The point I’m trying to make is, neither move has led either team to MORE success, and frankly Brian Burke’s record is fairly similar in a lot of ways to that of JFJ… the guy everyone rips incessantly for mismanaging the Leafs.

The Ducks have been a worse team since they lost Bryzgalov, and the Leafs goaltending has not gotten any better since they dealt away Tellqvist.

Similarly I mention Cloutier because I don’t think he was as close to a Stanley Cup as Burke would have had people believing during his tenure as GM of the Canucks. Similarly to how JFJ kept telling everyone Raycroft was a great goalie, and sold everyone on Toskala.

The whole thing is an effort in comparison and contrast… I’m not saying I think Tellqvist would be the Leafs saviour, or that Burke could have kept Bryzgalov.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Nov 29, 2008 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

I touched on my issue with Bryzgalov in our Toskala counterpoint.

The Leafs took on bad salary and gave up a first rounder for Toskala, yet a couple months later Burke couldn’t get anything for Brygalov.

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by Chemmy on Nov 29, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Similarly I mention Cloutier because I don’t think he was as close to a Stanley Cup as Burke would have had people believing during his tenure as GM of the Canucks.

I completely agree with this point. Burke’s hubris cost the Canucks a Stanley Cup in 2002. They were up 2-0 on the Red Wings and AT HOME!!! when Cloutier let in Lidstrom’s long-range effort.

The difference I would make with JFJ is that when he went out and got Raycroft the Leafs had just finished the year like 10-1-2 with Aubin and Tellqvist and had Rask and Pogge coming up. Where was the urgency to trade a prospect for a guy that was coming off an injury plagued season? Then, rather than stick with Raycroft, he compounded the mistake by trading for Toskala.

Meanwhile, Burke wins a Cup and shows loyalty to Giguere which leaves him in a bind. His sin was having three NHL-starter quality goaltending. I am not sure that that compares that similarly to JFJ.

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by PPP on Nov 29, 2008 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

New DGB post: more talk about obscure jerseys. I’m pretty sure I owned the most obscure Leafs jersey of all-time, but maybe somebody can top me.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 29, 2008 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

NEW CHATTY CATHY

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2008/11/29/675192/chatty-cathy-nov-29-2008

in this episode, I fail at knowing opening hours

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Nov 29, 2008 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

It looks as if Leaf Nation can add a very famous and beautiful fan to it’s ranks. Which is a big difference from their usual mouth breathing, band wagon jumping fans who only hang Leaf flags out of the windows of their Honda Civics when they’re winning.

Uh

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by Chemmy on Nov 29, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh

Since when are we bandwagoners? that makes no sense what so ever.

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2008 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

that’s what i thought…

someone needs to be explained what a band-wagoner is me thinks. I’ve never met a “band wagon” leaf fan in my life.

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by blurr1974 on Nov 29, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe he means all the traitors who abandoned us and became Sens fans who will jump back onto Leafs fandom next year when the Leafs are contenders and the Sens are in the basement

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2008 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know those fans...

they’re dead to me

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by blurr1974 on Nov 29, 2008 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I totally emailed that story to Chemmy. Hahahah.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Nov 29, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, it’s up now. I saw another stupid article on that site a while ago but I didn’t feel like linking it but that was too dumb to pass up.

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by PPP on Nov 29, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys thanks so much for the link action. I really really appreciate it.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Nov 29, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

No Problem

Is there a contact e-mail for complaints with the Chiefs? Will they make you get rights if you print your pictures and show them to friends at home? How can people still be so stupid in 2008? Are they JUST getting the internet?

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by PPP on Nov 29, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

In terms of running a team and advertising I estimate they are about 8 years behind the curve. If you go look at the site now, it assaults the senses. Also, that is the the “upgraded site.”

Ain't nothing but puck drops and poke checks, babydoll.

by Wrap Around Curl on Nov 29, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

It’s one thing to chatter on the tubes in general – but fill up someone’s email inbox and voicemail with polite (but VOLUMINOUS) comment and they will more likely get the message. (Even Alaskan politicians, I found out!)

If you have contact information, I’m sure a lot of people would be willing to stick up for modern principles. People that stupid make me so frustrated I want to bang a skull against an overpass until brains leak out like tapioca pudding. Grrrr…..

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by Baroque on Nov 29, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

All the contact info is on their website.

I never said that….

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by Wrap Around Curl on Nov 29, 2008 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

DGB might have a Berube jersey, but I think in 15 years my Wade Belak jersey will be more obscure.

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by Chemmy on Nov 29, 2008 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

I think in 15 years my Wade Belak jersey will be more obscure.

Only if it was the Panthers version

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Nov 29, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone watching LeafsTV?

The Burke newser startated at 2:05.

Peddie is talking and somewhere Cliff Fletcher is moving his lips.

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by mf37 on Nov 29, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

I'm watching on Sportsnet

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by Archimedies on Nov 29, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, did Bob McKenzie ever nail the front end of this press conference in his column today. Near verbatim on team building, front office and trade timing.

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by mf37 on Nov 29, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Peddie was at the press conference? Dammit, don’t tell me he’s still anywhere close to the picture.

Was the media’s first questionto Peddie “What the hell are you even doing here?” And did Burke answer “Yes, RIchard, what the hell are you doing here?”

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 29, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Only two questions...

…and then into the scrums and one on ones. Interesting that the reporters decided to wait…

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by mf37 on Nov 29, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Noticed that too...

I can’t believe the media didnt pick him apart for about an hour

I suppose most networks were waiting for the 1-on-1’s to get their quality sound

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by Archimedies on Nov 29, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

well I...

…just woke up and haven’t scanned the last few days comments too closely, but has anyone mentioned anything in the news or on here about the nature of what the Brian Burke/Dominic Moore relationship might be? Burke was a co-defendant in the Steve Moore lawsuit and was a pretty big defender of Bertuzzi. Not that he should have hung his own player out to dry and he’s definitely loyal, but I can’t see Dominic being able to put aside personal feelings over that. He had a good game tonight but my money is still on him asking for a move and being the first Leaf shipped off. If this has already been discussed feel free to call me an idiot and post a link.

by Wendel's Moustache on Nov 29, 2008 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

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