NNN: Where I Disparage Southern Hockey Markets

Back-to-back wins over the rebuilding Leafs have the Canes bandwagon (seen here pulling double duty as the 'Paint Waggin') filling up
Yesterday, we were accused of being unoriginal, not funny, and mean to Southern markets. Not that we received any replies calling us hosers Turns out, there are a lot of hockey fans in Carolina (thanks for visiting!) and they come from all over:
If you’d ever been to Raleigh, you’d know there are as many people here who grew up in a "traditional hockey market" (Buffalo, Detroit, Long Island, Massachusetts) as those who have embraced the game since it came here.
So there are a lot of bandwagon fans (Carolina meet ottawa) and attendance has increased! Great news. I guess I should stop making fun of Southern markets...
Instead, the Canes, playing their eighth road game of the season, seemed to be rejuvenated and found some jump.
Hmmm....eighth road game? If you looked at the NHL schedule it confirms it but you might be wondering why Carolina was on the road from October 17-30. Wonder no longer because you see, they couldn't play at home because the North Carolina State Fair was in town. Obviously having a hockey game at the same time would have been too much excitement for Raleigh. Hell, think of the people that would have had to miss the horse shoe pitching competition! So much excitement could have had people dancing provocatively and Reverend Shaw Moore will not tolerate any form of dancing. Good thing Toronto pays revenue sharing to keep such thriving hockey markets alive.
Boy, that first period brought back the memories. The string of opposing two-on-ones; the frozen silence in the arena; the lopsided score. It was a little over a year ago that the Carolina Hurricanes skated into Toronto and drilled the listless Toronto Maple Leafs 7-1. Much is different since then - Mats Sundin's continued presence in the headlines notwithstanding - but after one period last night this looked, more than anything, like an encore performance.
I was at that 7-1 game. McCabe bodychecked the net and things went downhill from there. The Leafs quit that night but last night was different right Bruce?
Except it wasn't. Times have changed.
It seems obvious to say it now, but these Toronto Maple Leafs will not finish with the worst record in the National Hockey League. If you were dreaming of John Tavares, you might want to kiss him goodbye.
While Johnny would be a great addition (or Victor) playing well now helps more players develop. Plus, we can always sign him as a free agent because we all know he'll want to play in Toronto right?
It's funny how this Leaf season is unfolding. A team that was supposed to play it close-to-the-vest and compete in a lot of 2-1, 3-2 games has instead emerged as a squad that scores a lot and comes from behind a lot but is weak defensively.
It must be good news that a team that was pegged as limp offensively has shown that it can score right? The longer Wilso works with the team the more ingrained his defensive scheme will be which means that the team will improve on that end. At least, it better improve because who knows how long Man Grabs Lemon can fire on all cylinders. Speaking of Hagman:
Watching Hagman this year has been a treat for Leaf fans. He's gone from a free-agent signing who looked like he could help a rebuilding team to arguably the club's best player after 13 games.
Hagman has certainly helped Grabovski, who bagged a pair of goals – one off a gorgeous Hagman setup on the power play. And Kulemin, who was too quick to gel on a line with Nik Antropov earlier this season, has found a place where he can maximize his offensive gifts alongside Hagman and Grabovski.
So there is room for improvement in Leafland and maybe defensive records won't fall but at least one was set last night. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of the Leafs:
On Tuesday, the Hurricanes eked out an overtime win in Toronto after squandering a three goal first period lead. The win was the 239th of Peter Laviolette’s career, which ties him with John Tortorella for winningest NHL coach born in the United States.
The major turning point? The 5 on 3:
A key point of the game was in the third period. The score was tied 4-4 and the Hurricanes were called for two consecutive penalties, giving the Leafs a two man advantage. But the Canes penalty killers were up to the challenge and the momentum shifted a bit back to Carolina after the kill.
Oh, and on a wholly inappropriate note for a sports blog partially based in Canada, the best part of Obama's crushing win and the stunning repudiation of conservative ideology? Reading blinkered posts that have no basis in reality and try to project their own party's failures, shortcomings, and bugaboos on Obama like this one. GOBAMA!
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I was at the horse shoe pitching competition and it was excellent.
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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2008 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plumbing Contest Fri., Oct. 24 8:30 a.m. Apprentice Contest Pavilion
Damn that sounds exciting. I can’t believe that wasn’t televised up here.
by general borschevsky on Nov 5, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cancel that there sport with the ice and the sticks, we got the plumbing contest comin to town.
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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plumbing Contest
Just has horrific image euphemism written all over it.
If it's after midnight, it must be time for hockey!
by Mattblack on Nov 5, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They got everyone who waited in line at the deep fried twinkie stand to clog some pipes up, and then plumbers came in.
First one to get it clear wins.
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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pro-Celebrity Panblockers, live from the RBS Center....
If it's after midnight, it must be time for hockey!
by Mattblack on Nov 5, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey!
was that a jab at my deep fried twinkies?
Anybody throws me against the boards I'm gonna piss all over myself.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness
Both Ottawa and Edmonton had playoff dates bumped because the arena was booked for Dora the Explorer.
The Rangers routinely had to play home playoff games in Toronto because the circus always got first dibs on MSG in the middle of April. (c. 1950s)
Leaf, the universe and everything.
by 1967ers on Nov 5, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And in fairness, I think that all three of those teams’ fanbases are crap too :)
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man-Grabs-Lemon
At least when Grabovski says that because they lost, “my points are s—-,” you feel like he means it.
God, it’s like there’s an ongoing contest between these three guys to see who I’m going to love more.
by Godd Till on Nov 5, 2008 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, poor Grabovski. Dude should be talk of the town, four goals in two games, and instead the Leafs went 0-1-1.
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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please, someone – anyone – rescue the Caps from this godforesaken division!
by J.P. on Nov 5, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sure
But the payment is Ovechkin
"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)
by Winkle on Nov 5, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn near worth it.
But I’ll pin my hope on Obama fixing this by Executive Order. Can the Caps get back in a division with their actual rivals? Yes we can!
by J.P. on Nov 5, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Secretary of Making Hockey Powerful
He’ll take care of it.
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
State Fairs Aren't So Bad
The Bruins start every season with a big road trip because their home ice is ankle-deep in elephant poo.
by bostonblueline.blogspot.com on Nov 5, 2008 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
metaphorically speaking?
Anybody throws me against the boards I'm gonna piss all over myself.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but then Jeremy Jacobs gets back into the owner’s box.
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Thanks for joining.
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We should be nice to hockey fans in the south
after all they do have to live in the south. And they’ve got to subscribe to the Gay Outdoorsman Network to get any NHL games on TV.
Seriously though, the watering down of talent in the NHL and all the crap that comes from having the successful teams prop up the floundering ones, and the leagues insistence on trying to enter new markets rather than keeping the core fan base happy are fault of the NHL and the existing owners, not the fans. We should be happy that new fans recognize the true and undeniable excellence of the game of hockey and welcome them with open arms. Then we should tell them their team sucks and we look forward to watching Luke Schenn destroy their players for years to come.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 5, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i'd like to see...
in the next CBA, a more relaxed cap. If the haves want to go over and pay the penalty, let them (like the yankees and red sox of MLB.) The revenue sharing is still intact, and those with deep pockets can spend the money they’d like to.
i don’t think contraction is the answer, and quite frankly, I think the talent pool is far deeper than it was 15 years ago. Atheletes train year round since birth now. There is no “off season.” We’re blessed with an over-abundance of high level hockey players, some of whom can play D so well, it’s an art form (see Lidstrom, Nic.) The concept of a goaltending coach was unheard of until very recently, and it has done nothing but create incredible, acrobatic goaltenders. A position that is by far one of the most important in all of preofessional sports deserves that level of dedication and focus.
However, everyone else’s team does suck…
Anybody throws me against the boards I'm gonna piss all over myself.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the soft cap, although the cap does make managing a team almost a sport unto itself, it’s sort of entertaining to watch how GM’s handle it. It would suck however, to watch your team lose decent players for nothing so that Nashville can stay afloat (though from what I’ve read having to make the minimum is tough for some teams).
You’re probably right about the talent pool as well. There is a point though when it get’s to be too much though if you ask me. Picking 30 something’th overall hardly seems like a first rounder, more like a really good second rounder. And God forbid we ever have to see a team in Las Vegas.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 5, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
being out here on the west coast...
i’d love a team in vegas. one more excuse to hit the desert…
In all seriousness though, the first pro team of any sport that gets into Vegas will make a killing. That town is starving for a pro franchise (watch a UNLV game, crazy…) and I could see one there before the league goes in any other direction. I think that the gambling issue that came up in the NBA will keep basketball out of there for awhile. Football wants to get a team back in LA, and MLB isn’t expanding or moving anybody right now.
The key to Vegas is, it’s a tourist/vacation town, at it’s busiest through the winter months (I’ve been there in June, it’s like walking on the sun…) The concern for the team would be building a local fan base, but not selling out a building. Gambling revenues alone could keep a team afloat, but then, that would be the connundrum. Any revenue would have to not be sports betting aligned, and all casinos have a sports book, and the state gets a fair share from the casinos. Still, I’d love to see it happen, and I know Bruckheimer has been pushing for that quite some time.
I don’t hitnk it’s a case of locale. i remember when the Sharks first came into the league, the fans were ridiculed for applauding everything, even icings. The team made a concerted effort to saturate the community in hockey. The hockey operations side made every effort to build a winner. Now, we have an incredibly successful franchise sitting in CA. It’s not impossible to do.
PS – I think I’d make a half decent commisioner. Someone make that happen for me…?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2008 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose it’s all about the ability to be successful, and it’s easy to forget that not too long ago pretty much every Canadian franchise except the Leafs were in trouble. It’s easy to be annoyed as well as a fan here when the leagues focus has been on expanding into non-traditional markets. It leaves us feeling kind of taken for granted.
Re the Sharks and hockey education – I remember in Tampa’s first season when Esposito had to call down to stop security from escorting a fan out of the building for throwing his hat on the ice after a hat trick. Funny stuff. But again at least the fans come out and learn the game and learn to love it.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 5, 2008 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, I’ll vote for you as commissioner, but only if you create a position just for me, maybe Executive Officer Of Mocking Sens Fans or something.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 5, 2008 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The issue I have is not so much with the fans but with the cities and regions that do not deserve a hockey team. It’s terrible to lose a team (or so I have been told) so I don’t actually wish it on them but I hate having hockey in unproven markets being used to bash the sport that I love. I hate having to read all of the trash that gets written about the league because of those franchises. I hate having to see Johnny Come Latelys win the Stanley Cup on the backs of a system that my successful team has to support.
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2008 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it burns me up to hear that crap too, and that franchises with pathetic fan support make hockey look bad.
You know I’m still really pissed about the Mighty Ducks Of Anaheim. Allowing that stupid team to go into that stupid city wearing that stupid uniform with their incredibly stupid name was insulting to hockey fans, made the league look like a novelty act and reeked of desperation. The fact that the team was owned by Disney who wanted to ice a ‘family friendly’ product made it worse and set up a situation in which their franchise player, and one of the most promising players in the league, Paul Kariya get’s crosschecked in the face after a goal and suffers a concussion that probably prevents him from ever reaching his potential by that rat bastard Gary Suter who then is allowed to just skate off the ice without so much as a dirty look by Kariya’s teammates, the Apple Dumplin’ Gang Of Anaheim while their captain lies on the ice not moving.
You know, screw all teams located anywhere where it doesn’t snow. I’m all riled up now. Oh well, this is the best thing I can find to make me feel better.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 5, 2008 6:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“MS paint waggin”
Ok, THAT got me chuckling
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing
by loser domi on Nov 6, 2008 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I mean, that’s where the guy’s hand is, it looks like the sign says “MS paint waggin”. I was thinking, "Wow, usually Chemmy’s a better photoshop guy than that
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing
by loser domi on Nov 6, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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