The Ghost Of You Lingers
Well, it looks like it is official: Mats Sundin is a Vancouver Canuck.
Naturally, the above reaction will not be universal. I got the news after just after I got home when I checked my e-mail only to find an explosive press release. Since this was Toronto-related and therefore massive news, I decided to check the networks for reaction but only The Score wasn't in the middle of programming. That meant that I had the distinct pleasure of yet another member of the media, Steve Kouleas, displaying complete ignorance about any aspect of being a fan. I have no idea if this is an epidemic spread through saliva or inbred in the media's DNA but being a fan is about supporting your team. Being angry with Mats is completely within our rights as fans.
This will be long so join me after the jump:
First off, here are some truths about the situation:
1. Cliff Fletcher was doing his job to the best of his abilities by trying to trade Mats Sundin.
Cliff Fletcher did not give Mats Sundin a no-trade clause. That gift was John Ferguson Jr.'s. He was brought in to clear the decks for the next GM by moving out veterans and bringing back prospects and picks. The biggest prize he had in his stable was the Leafs' captain. It was his fiduciary duty to do everything he could to get the Leafs the biggest return possible. In the end, the best he could do was get a draft pick from the Habs in return for a limited window of exclusive negotiation.
2. Mats Sundin was acting well within his rights to not only refuse to waive his NTC but to wait until December 18, 2008 to sign with an NHL team.
Mats Sundin negotiated a no trade clause because, in his own words, "I am a Torontonian". He was well within his rights to refuse to move during the season because he didn't want to uproot his child. When he finally did waive the NTC and became a free agent Mats had earned the right through his tenure in the league to wait around all summer fishing while deciding if he wanted to play in the NHL before signing with the only team left in the league that could fit him under the cap without having to ditch roster players.
3. This in no way will tarnish his legacy as the greatest Leaf ever nor does it justify the criminally long-time it took most fans to adore Mats.
Nothing will ever change the fact that over the past 14 years fans have been luckly enough to watch, arguably, the greatest player to ever don the blue and white. As the records have fallen over the past two seasons the segments of the fanbase that were resistant (not me fore sure) for whatever reasons finally acceded to reason but that doesn't change the fact that it took far too long. His supporters (including me) were bombarded with far too many articles and call-ins wondering if Sundin was a leader or if he should be traded which were always ridiculous. The worst of these was probably Don Cherry's ludicrous assertion that Sundin was happy in Toronto because missing the playoffs was extending his career.
4. Leaf fans have every right to be angry with Mats Sundin for not waiving his no-trade clause and for signing in Vancouver. Players come and go but a fan's loyalty is to the crest on the front.
Now we finally come to the part that Steve Kouleas and most of his media brethren are unable to comprehend. When I posted the press release announcing Mats Sundin's decision it hit over 200 comments in lightning speed with strong, STRONG feelings on both side of the aisle but Godd Till's captured the moment perfectly:
GODDAMMIT I DON'T FEEL LIKE BEING RATIONAL RIGHT NOW
Anyone that actually loves a team can understand that feeling. Why else do sports foster such partisanship? If they were about being rational would anyone be a fan of the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions or the ottawa senators or the Toronto Maple Leafs? No, fandom is about emotions and irrationality. That irrationality is what is at the core of most of the reaction to Sundin's signing.
1967ers' Leaf of the Day summarized the rational view point (and I don't want to call it the non-fan view because it's proponents are just as big of Leaf fans as those that are angry with Sundin):
I think people got a little greedy, too, with visions of the package that might have been had for him (we never got to find out what that might have been - the package for Kaberle was actually leaked, that was worse). I think it's kind of callous to turn on a guy because he didn't want to leave town. We tend to treat people like cattle. He's an asset to be manipulated, rather than a person with an attachment to a place and a team and the contractual right to veto a move. This isn't Vince Carter here, dogging his way out of town and crapping on folks on the way out. The only thing Mats did was stick to his guns.
Most of the time fans treat players like so much more than assets. We love them, we idolize them, we play favourites, we get in arguments defending them, and all of the time we are reminded by the actions of players that to them the game that we love is nothing more than a business. It happens in every sport as every player signed by a big soccer club suddenly remembers what a lifelong fan he has been or every player suddenly thinks that the Yankees are a contender regardless of their previous year's record.
Fans, I think, are always cognizant of this at some level. Of course, that does not keep us from, every once in a while, thinking that maybe this guy isn't like the rest. Maybe Mats really does love Toronto and wants nothing more than retire as a Maple Leaf. Or maybe he'll go back against a repeatedly expressed desire to be part of a team from training camp in order to help the Leafs' rebuilding effort. Or maybe he just wants to retire and it's just his agent stirring up trouble.
MF37 sent me an e-mail that perfectly summarised all of the angles that will get jumped upon by those upset with Sundin:
Mats is buggered no matter what he says now:
All about the journey - he signs half-way through the season
Not about the money - took more to play in Vancouver
About winning the cup - signed with the 'Nucks who have a long-term injury to Luongo
So maybe the truth was that he was just too comfortable in Toronto and didn't feel like being used to cover up the failings of the team's management. Maybe he just didn't want to hurt the fans so instead of saying that he has given his prime to the club and wanted to try to win a Cup (like Cujo did when he went to Detroit and I hated him for it) he told us what we want to hear, that he is just as loyal to the blue and white as we are and that he cannot think of wearing another jersey.
Leafs fans probably feel pretty similar to how Habs fans felt when Patrick Roy uttered his famous promise that he would never play for the bleu, blanc, et rouge before being shipped to Colorado. In the short-term, there will be a massive outpouring of anger for perfectly valid reasons because fandom, more often than not, is about irrationality and wild emotional swings. At least we know Mats won't win the Cup in Vancouver. They aren't even in the top four teams in the Western Conference.
However, a few years from now after Mats has hung up his skates (for real this time) the Leafs will announce that they will be raising number 13 to the rafters. The team will hopefully have found success and fans will begin to remember the good times that he provided us. I'll probably find a way to get a ticket to the game and along with everyone in the building I'll give him the standing ovation that he deserves. Much in the same way that Habs fans re-embraced Patrick Roy the softening of Leafer's hearts will be gradual but at the end of the day the great memories will vastly outweigh the unfortunate way in which things ended and we'll tell the next generation of fans about how we were lucky enough to see Mats Sundin cruising the ice in Toronto, carrying a team on his back, and leading from the front.
Of course, that day will come someday but for now Mats, you are dead to me.
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What a joke
These past 8 months have been absurd. Sundin never chose Vancouver. At one point he had 20 teams chasing but one by one they dropped out. Every GM except Mike Gillis spent their budget to ensure they would ice the best team possible. Gillis won because at the end Sundin dragged this out so long Vancouver was competing against themselves. No team had cap space or could make that much cap space. At this point it was either Vancouver or back to Sweden.
Lucky Gillis
He’s lucky his goalie is good enough for that strategy to work. Not to mention a guy like Wellwood having a 35% shooting percentage.
The trade deadline in Vancouver will be interesting. This is their year. They have to go all in or at least you would assume so. I wonder what Gillis will do…
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It is their year in a lot of ways. Both the Sedins and Ohlund are up as UFAs and Luongo’s contract is starting to run out. In some ways, Gillis had to try and go for it, even if he doesn’t have the horses.
by James Mirtle on Dec 18, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
He’ll definitely have to find the horses before the deadline. This move could cripple the Vanucks for years which would make me laugh for years.
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How on earth does this cripple the Canucks? They had cap space just sitting there.
by James Mirtle on Dec 19, 2008 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
You both misunderstood. Signing Mats will not cripple the Canucks. Like you said, they have tonnes of cap space. What could potentially cripple the Canucks would be the moves that they make as a result of the realization that this has to be their year. They have cap room to bring in some big names (Gaborik?) but what are they going to have to give up to get those kinds of players?
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If we’re guilty of misunderstanding then you’re guilty of getting the cart before the horse. Mats signing does not automatically equal the team doing anything else. Gillis in the press conference himself didn’t seem big on adding anything more when asked if he would. Anything is possible but I would be shocked if the Canucks would be able to come up with an offer that would land anyone on the level of a Gaborik or the like without breaking apart the current team, even if they wanted to.
As for me calling this a tantrum I was refering more to all the comments than your original post. I’m sorry if among I’ve lost the nuance among all the posts calling this a Roman level betrayal and others with such titles as “Five Reasons Mats Sundin Can Suck My Left Testicle”.
hahaha
Yeah, that one was a bit of a tantrum ;) But it’s a fan’s prerogative right?
Gillis making any more moves is definitely just a possibility at this point. One that I hope happens.
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I think...
you don’t get how much Mats meant to this team.
not sure where your allegiance lies, but I, as a Leafs fan, am feeling annoyed at what appears to be a bold faced lie from a guy whom I was under the impression as being the epitome of class.
I’m disappointed with how long things dragged on, and how everything played out.
Underneath all that, I’m just glad it’s over.
All that said, I’m not here to belittle anyone their opportunity to air grievances and express their own emotions to the situation.
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by blurr1974 on Dec 19, 2008 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Uh "Yeah"
If this turns out wrong, what does Vancouver lose? Not players, not draft picks, just a bunch of cap space they’ve had all year. The deal is half a season long. If it turns out that in the span of one year Mats Sundin has become a fragile old man who can’t score, the Canucks simply don’t resign him.
This isn’t Messier. His role isn’t to be muscled in as the new captain, it isn’t to carry the team for years to come. All he’s being asked to do is add some depth to their “horrible” offense (9th in the league) and fix their “dismal” power play (16th in the league). Money wise, maybe they’re overpaying for that, but they can afford to.
Now back to your tantrum.
It isn’t this move that will cripple the Canucks. Its what this move will mean for the team. By doing this and with the other contracts coming up this is Vanvouvers year to really push for it. That means trading future assets for proven players at the deadline. That is what will cripple the team.
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+1
For using your reasoning skills!
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You misunderstood
Read my clarification above.
Thanks for joining.
Is it really a tantrum? I think it read more like a clear explanation of each side’s actions, why they were rational and expected, and a display of understanding that while most Leaf fans are upset right now they’ll eventually remember the other 13 years of magnificent hockey and find their way back to the fold. Of course, maybe you didn’t read the entire post…
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I stand by
my reasons for why Sundin can suck it. Fuck him, he broke my heart.
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions
I’ve got two posts up at DGB about this already. I’m aiming for a dozen by morning.
In all seriousness, tonight’s news doesn’t mean much to me. It’s like getting dumped by the love of your life — the breakup is what hurts. Finding out she’s dating some other guy months later doesn’t matter much.
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by Down Goes Brown on Dec 18, 2008 10:21 PM EST reply actions
It does if...
…she’s been texting you every few weeks just to let you know she’s not 100% sure she’s over you…
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Personally
I’m disappointed, hugely disappointed by this signing. If he went to the Rangers I would not have cared one whit, the Rangers for YEARS had been the other team that NHL veterans’ careers go to die. Now I will have to hear about this SO MUCH from the Vancouver media. Ught.
As for Mats himself, I ain’t mad atcha. He never did other than give 100% while under contract, never badmouthed the team or management and was an incredible leader no matter what anyone says. Life’s too short to ponder the what-ifs and who screwed who, let’s remember the good times..
At least, if nothing else, he’s given me a reason to tune in to watch the Canucks play on sportsnet..
He SHOULD
have badmouthed the team. He SHOULD have badmouthed management. He was the leader, and the recipient of the so-called Sundin salary cap, where no player signed could be paid more than him. He was the only person in the organization with the stature and leverage to get MAD about the team not being great and to push for real change, and he never did, he just cashed his checks, scored his goals, and toed the line. I’m sorry, I know I’m angry and emotional and irrational right now about all this, but fuck him right in the ear.
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
This is a point that I’m surprised doesn’t get raised more often.
Sundin never complained about anything (at least publically) and we all assume it’s a good thing. Maybe it wasn’t.
His defenders love to point out that he never had decent forwards to play with. Besides the fact that it’s not true, I wonder why nobody ever pokes him for never demanding better talent?
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by Down Goes Brown on Dec 18, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I remember hearing that Sundin lobbied management to sign Selanne before Anaheim snapped him up. Perhaps Sundin preferred to work for change behind the scenes rather than through a media horde that get so many stories wrong.
If you wanted to affect change at your organization, would you take your case to the President or have Howard Berger try to do it for you?
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That’s true. I guess we may never know…
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by Down Goes Brown on Dec 18, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Because it’s not a player’s job to act as GM. Those who do come off as annoying, whiny bitches who usually get shifted out of town or leave on their own eventually anyway.
If I think there are issues with my company, I don’t phone up members of the media to bitch about it. I go to my superiors and let them know that I’m not happy with how things are being run. It is not his place, or ANY player’s place to publicly bitch about the organization, no matter what a trainwreck it is.
Who knows, maybe (probably) he did request better talent. I wouldn’t doubt that the organization’s failure to ever provide him with it was a big factor in him not re-signing.
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 18, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
if he...
…really pushed for better wingers, he’d have had better wingers. He was Mats Sundin. He could have had anything he wanted if he’d asked, whether publicly or behind the scenes. Either he was satisfied with Antropov and Ponikarovsky, Renberg and Hoglund, etc. as his linemates, which means he had serious hockey judgement issues, or he just never tried to get improvement in that area.
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Careful
There is nothing wrong with Antro and Poni ;)
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you're
right, I apologize, they’re the modern day Lindros and LeClair
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I totally agreed with everything you said right up until the part about the ear.
by general borschevsky on Dec 18, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I just want
to punch him right in his big stupid Swedish face with his monotone voice and his stupid cliches and his indecision-filled melon. I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him. If he was McDonald’s, I’d buy a Whopper. If he was a PC, I’d buy a Mac. If he was a dog, I’d get a cat. I despise everything about his retarded blonde loser head. I want him to tear his ACL on his first shift. Fuck him.
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:33 PM EST reply actions
The karmic cycle
but for now Mats, you are dead to me.
From the outside, this ignoble end seems cosmically right considering his acquisition sent Wendel Clark away. As if Faust said on 6/28/94, “ah, but there will be one more cost down the line.”
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by Dominik on Dec 18, 2008 10:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Awesome comment
Rec’d.
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I will bet anyone
$10,000 that the Leafs will win the Stanley Cup before the Canucks do. $100,000. $1,000,000.
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply actions
10 out of 10
Great post, PPP!
However, a few years from now after Mats has hung up his skates (for real this time) the Leafs will announce that they will be raising number 13 to the rafters. The team will hopefully have found success and fans will begin to remember the good times that he provided us. I’ll probably find a way to get a ticket to the game and along with everyone in the building I’ll give him the standing ovation that he deserves.
Definitely this is true, but what about his first game back?(Feb. 21) Standing ovation or more boo’s then Alfredson normally receives?
by general borschevsky on Dec 18, 2008 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Tough call.
He deserves a standing ovation for what he did in his first 13 years, and he deserves to be booed out of the building for what he did in the final year.
The problem is, he probably only ever plays in Toronto one more time. What to do, what to do…
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by Down Goes Brown on Dec 18, 2008 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
what to do?
Boo. Heartily, lustily, and with everything you’ve got. Throw garbage if possible.
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't matter
The seats will be half empty for the first 10 minutes of the period anyway, as per standard ACC protocol.
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 18, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
The suits will be saying things like “That guy on the Canucks looks like a guy who used to play here. More sushi?”
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by Down Goes Brown on Dec 18, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hah, I was even thinking of the notorious sushi when I typed that, same wavelength.
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 18, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
you can't
really fault the suits for eating sushi at the rink when that’s what the players do on their night off…
anyone remember when all the players used to eat in local steakhouses after games?
by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 18, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, nice work on this one.
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D’oh, that was a reply to general borschevsky’s 10:40 mesage commending PPP for this entry.
As for what to do – Leaf fans should let Mats know how they feel. Be fascinating to hear a mixture of boos and cheers when the big swede returns.
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Cheers
To tell you the truth, I think that much like Barilkosphere opinion, it’ll be a huge mix with lots of animosity between fans. It’s a bad situation but I might try to go to the game and I’ll boo my guts outs especially when he inevitably scores.
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Teh Cox
The Omen actually has a column that might raise a few spirits, apart from the predictable organization bashing he does touch on how it may just bust the logjam and the arms race is now on in full.
Favourite part:
The last time the Canucks won a lottery like this, meanwhile, they landed 36-year-old Mark Messier in the summer of 1997.
That didn’t turn out so well, did it? Similarly, it’s no lock that Sundin will either deliver a Cup or even be a major factor if the Canucks qualify for post-season play.
I remember the hype over the Messier signing and it was remarkably similar. So, who knows. Perhaps Mats will come back for one more spin with the Leafs much as Messier did with the Rangers.. Although those days of getting past their prime vets back for nostalgia factors are gone now, right?
hahaha
I hate to say it but that was the first thing that I thought about too! Messier’s term with the team is now viewed as a sort of Dark Ages. Maybe history will repeat itself.
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Cox writes:
It always ends up this way and, cynically, one might suggest it always produces a nice gate for the Leafs when the former beloved leader comes back with his new team.
Wait a second, for years we’ve heard about how the Leafs always sell out, no matter what, and don’t have to lift a finger to put butts in the seats… and now he thinks they’ve been letting their captains walk just to get a good gate at one game?
Gah.
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by Down Goes Brown on Dec 18, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I knew he couldn’t stop at making a funny observation.
Forget The Omen, Damien is The Goldfish – he can’t remember anything more than 10 seconds in the past.
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Hah, yeah that is a bit of a headscratcher.. Leafs don’t exactly have to work it hard to get good gate receipts!
Messier’s time with the Vanucks is absolutely seen as a Dark Ages. Partly blamed (along with Keenan) of running the Golden Boy (Linden) out of town. Fans turned on him pretty quick after that.
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 18, 2008 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Wait
This is crazy
In this case, it will be Feb. 21 when Sundin comes to town with the Canucks. That suddenly becomes a very hot ticket, doesn’t it?
He realizes that the tickets are already sold right? The scalpers are the ones salivating right now.
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Your puny logic and facts have no place here!
Madness? THIS! IS! COX!
/kicks PPP into a well
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 18, 2008 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I will just say, I have a different take on all this, since I am new Leafie.
It strikes me as a dick move.
Ain't nothing but puck drops and poke checks, babydoll.
by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 18, 2008 11:36 PM EST reply actions
We’re still waiting on the announcement!
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I have an annoucement...
…of my own. Mats signing with the Canucks has finally inspired me to get off my ass and start my own Leafs blog, AFTER MATS. This will chronicle the new, AWESOME, post-Mats Sundin era. It has debuted RIGHT NOW, and has my fanpost, Five Reasons Mats Sundin Can Suck My Left Testicle as its inaugural post, so I can delete that from here if you like. Fuck you Mats, but also thank you for pushing me out of my apathy with your horribly dickish move.
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by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 19, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions
As long as it’s rad, unlike After MASH. That was terrible.
Ain't nothing but puck drops and poke checks, babydoll.
by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 19, 2008 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
of course
it will be. Jamie Farr ain’t got shit on me!
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by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 19, 2008 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
yup...
i’m glad it’ll be a friday morning, chances are, more time to read at work…
http://leftcoastlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/everything-we-had.html
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by blurr1974 on Dec 19, 2008 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
I wrote this!
http://melroserocks.blogspot.com/2008/12/mats-you-f-king-bitch-we-can-work-it.html
Ain't nothing but puck drops and poke checks, babydoll.
by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 19, 2008 2:47 AM EST up reply actions
here's one more
http://aftermats.blogspot.com/2008/12/okay-deep-breath.html
It’s a little more thoughtful than my initial reaction…
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by Wendel's Moustache on Dec 19, 2008 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
not another!
http://generalborschevsky.blogspot.com/2008/12/brutal.html
A little late reacting, but I’ll throw this on the pile. I was at an office X-mas party last night and didn’t hear the news until after 9pm. By the time I got home I was too tired and drunk to post.
by general borschevsky on Dec 19, 2008 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Angry at Mats
Look, I agree Mats had the right to refuse a trade, and when he did I supported him all the way. But now he flip-flops, and the worst of it was WE WEREN’T ASKING FOR MUCH. This wasn’t a case of “Mats, we want to trade you to some crappy team in some crappy city for the next 4 years, please waive your no-trade clause.” It was “Mats, please go to a STANLEY CUP CONTENDER for a FEW MONTHS. The team will improve, you can come back next year, and we’ll even pay you a ton of money to re-sign.”
At least Kaberle could say “Toronto is my home, I don’t want to suddenly find myself somewhere new for the next 2 years.”
Disappointing.
Meh
What’s done is done and I’m glad its over. At least I’m not in Vancouver and have to listen to the incessant Vancouver media talk about Sundin being the Canucks greatest signing or Leaf’s greatest screw up or whatever etc etc (sorry Karina and LeafInVan)… but wait I’m going to be there next week!!!
Note to self: do not turn on radio or watch TV or read newspapers while in Vancouver
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Mats, you are dead to me.
Does that mean Mats’ is your Fredo?
I just had a vision: a few years down the road PPP and Mats going fishing for pike on Rice Lake. However, only PPP comes back from the trip….
Nice
I had the same thought so now we have Mats’ new nickname, Fredo.
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My issue with calling Mats Fredo is that Fredo was pretty much utterly useless and kept around for family (sentimental) reasons. Mats as a Leaf was pretty much always the best player, so perhaps not an apt comparison.
More of a Hyman Roth, perhaps?
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 19, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but...
I love Mats. Hyman Roth was just being put in his place.
Plus it reminds me of Semenko’s threats of taking Gretzky on a canoe ride after he sent him his all-star MVP car in LA’s silver and black.
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I need to watch godfather 1 + 2 again soon.. Great flicks.
by LeafFanInVan on Dec 19, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions

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