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In the midst of all the hoopla surrounding Ron Wilson's return to the Shark Tank after being fired nearly seven months ago, it became all too easy to lose track of another subplot that threatened to slip under the radar: Joe Thornton's third anniversary in Teal.

Lest anyone forget, Jumbo Joe drove home the reminder with 4 points in the first period, sending the Sharks well on their way to a 5-2 victory over Wilson's Toronto Maple Leafs, not to mention a 21-3-1 start, tying the 1943-44 Montreal Canadiens for most points ever in 25 games. 

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Final - 12.2.2008 123Total
Toronto Maple Leafs 0 1 1 2
San Jose Sharks 4 0 1 5

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The bright side? The Leafs won 2/3 of the game against the best team in the league!

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Of course, that first period was quite the stanza for the Sharks. Joe Thornton showed why the Bruins got a new GM a couple of years ago as he was in on all four goals. How's his year been going so far?


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2008 - Joe Thornton 25 7 23 30 10 26 4 0 1 0 45 15.6


Pretty good. Much like in the Lightning game earlier this year star power played a big part in deciding the game. Now, some of you are familiar with this 'tanking' strategy that suggests that the only way to get a player of that quality is to draft them. Down Goes Brown previously took a look at that theory and found that there is, in fact, more than one way to skin a cat. What does that mean for the Leafs? They need a Joe Thornton and need to exhaust every avenue to get one.

As for the game, here are the highlights for the people that listened on the radio and fell asleep during the third period...


 

  1. Dear God that first goal was awful. That is not the way to start against the league's best team although at least it was 18 seconds better than last game. Baby steps.
  2. How is there no penalty on the second goal? jrwendelman described it as a division of Panzers rolling over poor Vesa Poland. Sounds about right.
  3. Antro, I love you, but you can't be chicken scratching like that.
  4. Wow. The Sharks are sick. Notice they are wearing their third jerseys though. No better time to market them eh boys?
  5. I love everyone on the Lemonade Line.
  6. Tomas, we need to talk. When you mess up all I can think about is Jeff Carter so either get us another Jeff Carter or stop messing up.
  7. The video is broken so I can't see the second Leafs goal but I saw it on Yahoo. Nice play.
  8. Luke Schenn is becoming a hard-hitting beast! Although the Leafs should make sure that if every team is going to get their panties in a bunch on a clean hit that they put Deveaux out with the kid.

This isn't a game worth worrying about too much. Everyone gets a mulligan. Except Hollweg who blew down the little piggies strawhouse with that wild whiff.

Thanks to everyone that came out until the early morning hours to hang out in the game thread. I am hopefully less than a week away from never missing another one. Until then, enjoy Chemmy and dream of better days.

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Spam Crown.

That’s what the kids call “back-to-back jacks.”

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 12:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Top 4

and i missed half the game…

in phoenix, it’s on like donkey kong.

Spam crown coming back to roost in blurratopia

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 12:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I rule the late nights.

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 12:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only because I let you. I was going to go for the jugular, and then you were gentle and held me, and I just couldn’t. But next time? You are going down, no matter how good you hold me.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 12:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that comment

was all kinds of sexy time, if you read it the right way…

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 12:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always read things the right way, if you catch my drift…

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 1:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I R JEALOUS

"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)

by Winkle on Dec 3, 2008 1:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have no right to be. You told be to look around for other people, so that’s what I’m doing. You want exclusive rights? We’ll have to renegotiate.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 1:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

third and I wasn’t even there halfway though? niiice

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Dec 3, 2008 1:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lucky Seven

…but I like to think I bring a welcome meditative element to the proceedings. Who else is gonna talk about broccoli-powered shark panzers? Who, I ask you? Not our so-called “free press”, that’s who – er, that’s not who.

Um.

Wait. What?

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Dec 3, 2008 1:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You bring lots to the table. Plus, you’re my VP, so that makes you like 2A anyhow.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 1:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In case you’re ever unable to fulfill your duties as Spammy runner-up, right?

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Dec 3, 2008 1:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

’zactly. Plus, the whole phase two thing.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 1:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right, right.

/conceals mysterious suitcase.

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Dec 3, 2008 1:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember

no such thing

"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)

by Winkle on Dec 3, 2008 1:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't remember where exactly

but you were denying our love, and said I should seek love elsewhere. So I am. Back me up here, guys.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 1:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's true..

i have it all now.

waffles!

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fine. Don’t make yourself sick.

"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)

by Winkle on Dec 3, 2008 2:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank you Mabel!

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you’re welcome, sugar.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 3, 2008 1:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

San Jose fans are pretty high right now, and deservedly so, but the Sharks were leaders in the regular season under Wilson’s tutelage as well. As someone who follows the team when he can I agree they look even better this year, but regular-season records don’t mean anything to that franchise at this point. With a 38 year-old Rob Blake in your lineup it’s cup or bust.

by koopa kid on Dec 3, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shark fans

are saying the same thing. McLellan has nothing on Ron until he brings home a cup. as CA hockey fans go, they are my favorite.

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 12:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

they’re actually knowledgeable about hockey!

"God's in His heaven. All's right with the world." - Robert Browning (1812-1889)

by Winkle on Dec 3, 2008 12:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mostly Canuck ex-pats down in silicon valley from the “brain drain” I’d wager!

by LeafFanInVan on Dec 3, 2008 12:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Canuck meaning Canadian and not the stupid hockey team.

by LeafFanInVan on Dec 3, 2008 12:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

got that...

but no. more transplanters in LA, and they’re all Leaf fans near as i can tell.

SJ has always had a special place in my heart. I remember when they came in the league, and they’d sell out the cow palace in SF, before they got their digs in SJ, and people would cheer icing calls, and clap for the away team. It was adorable how quickly they took to the Sharks.

now, they’ve got this unstoppable leviathan of a hockey team, and they play so well, it’s hard not to be impressed.

also, my sister-in-law and her hubbie are sharks fans.

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 12:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do enjoy

the Sharks and their fans. I was a fan before the Nolan deal, but started cheering for them more afterward…. they’re insanely good, and impossible for me to dislike.

Although I would like them to win the Cup, I also wouldn’t mind if something happened and they finally gave up on Marleau so the Leafs could trade for him…

by Karina on Dec 3, 2008 12:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they moved him to wing

to make room for pavelski as 2nd line center didn’t they…?

that and the injuries upfront neccessitated that move.

but, nah, i’d like to see patty stay in teal. i’d take Michalek in a second…

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 12:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually went to a game at the Cow Palace in ‘94 – real early days for hockey in the area on this go ’round – and at one point, the opposing team’s goons were sent out against one another. As they were lining up on the wing against one another for a face off, I turned to the guy beside me – who had been referring to the power play as the “full court press” all game – and told him there was going to be a fight. Of course, within a nanosecond of the puck being dropped, Goony McFists and Hulk O’Basherton were pounding the living daylights out of one another. The guy looked at me like I was frickin’ Carnac.

My point: SJ fans have come a looooooong way and actually do know quite a bit about hockey; something we all should keep in mind when we trot out the old saw that hockey can’t survive in a non-traditional market. Not so.

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Dec 3, 2008 1:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

full court press?

what??

Why?

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 1:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t know. I understand basketball about as well as this guy clearly understood hockey, but I gathered that he was referring to the stretch man, the player that most teams leave at the opposition blue line when the D go back to retrieve the puck behind the net. I didn’t get it, but I thought it would be impolite to go all terminology-Nazi on the guy; he seemed to be enjoying himself.

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Dec 3, 2008 1:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I personally wouldn’t mind seeing the Sharks win the cup. It would be great for them to deny Hossa again.

Hossa, think we forgot about Berard? Think we’ll forget that you wore black and red?

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by Chemmy on Dec 3, 2008 12:52 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I echo that sentiment

I still have huge Hossa hatred, I was pissed off the past 2 years when people kept saying that he was the best UFA available!!! I don’t forget his disappearing act in the black and red, nor the fact that he is a complement player, not a center piece player. He is not worth 7 mill!!!!

by Karina on Dec 3, 2008 12:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't hate Hossa...

sorry.

he was actually pretty classy following that whole berard incident. more so than i expected. and i think it impacted his play for awhile, he kind of went down hill after that…

and if he got his name on the cup, that would be the ultimate FU to sens fans everywhere…

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 12:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just remember: Shark cup win=ring for JFJ.

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by mf37 on Dec 3, 2008 1:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah

Good point. Ummmm…sorry Sharks fans.

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by PPP on Dec 3, 2008 1:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and please mr burke...

pretty please with sugar on top.

trade kabby now, before his value plummets…

trade him to LA for Dustin Brown and Patrick O’Sullivan. Or to FLA for Horton or Bouwmeester. Or get Nash out of Columbus.

kthxbai

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kabby isn’t going anywhere right now.

Burke ain’t making any trades until January.

Remember what MF37 said, you don’t trade guys when they’re value is low. Let Kaberle find his game.

And then we can keep him.

Damn Kaberle trade talk.

Damn Blurr, you frienemy.

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frienemy

sounds like a fried enemy treat

mmm delicious!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 1:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kabby stays - for a while, at least.

Agree.

jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog

"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)

by jrwendelman on Dec 3, 2008 1:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who goes first?

If we are talking impact players my bets are on Poni
If it’s fair game, I’m picking Cujo

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why Poni?

I don’t quite understand what we want from a guy making $2.1 million dollars. He scores 20 goals, can put up 45-50 points, is responsible defensively, and hits. I get it, he doesn’t hit as much as most of you would like, but he still does hit.

What is the problem with this guy? Do you think he makes too much money? Did I miss the memo that he was supposed to be a 35 goal scorer?

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s worth more than $2m and would bring handsome rewards in trade.

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by Chemmy on Dec 3, 2008 1:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he’s paid adequately, Jammies. The guy lacks finish. He could be a 35 goal scorer if he had some.

He can be a part of what we’re trying to build around here. Dude plays hard, and steps up for his teammates.

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just think Burke will be able to find a viable suitor for him and get a decent return

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 1:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What constitutes a “decent return” in your eyes?

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Poni straight up, I’d have to say a late first rounder or decent prospect and a 2nd or third rounder.

Note, this is very off the cuff and not thought out

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 1:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dangle him at the deadline. Dangle everybody at the deadline, and see what you can get.

I just think at his price, in the cap era, Poni is a good player to have on our team.

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could definitely see Mayers going at the deadline to a team looking to add some extra grit.

by Kriv on Dec 3, 2008 2:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stajan?

He might be trade, his stock has never been higher.

by Kriv on Dec 3, 2008 1:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Stajan can be a big part of what we’re trying to do around here. Unless he can bring you a first rounder back in return, which I highly doubt, he stays.

The only way he is dealt if he’s part of a bigger package to bring in a superstar. Again, which I think is doubtful.

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point...

did really think of it like that. As far as Poni goes, what is the return on a second line 20 goal socrer anyways?

by Kriv on Dec 3, 2008 1:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess that’s up to Burke to find out, mate.

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 1:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man are you in for it.

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by Chemmy on Dec 3, 2008 2:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PPP

Did you manually count every bodies posts?

by Kriv on Dec 3, 2008 1:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, we do.

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by Chemmy on Dec 3, 2008 2:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Every last one.

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by PPP on Dec 3, 2008 2:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we get a TWSS count?

Ain't nothing but puck drops and poke checks, babydoll.

by wrap around curl on Dec 3, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lots

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by PPP on Dec 3, 2008 2:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aunt jemima!

"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Dec 3, 2008 2:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Waffels!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 2:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your mom!

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Dec 3, 2008 3:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your moms waffles!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 3, 2008 3:03 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

your mom's couch!

AND your mom’s face

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by loser domi on Dec 3, 2008 3:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why do much discrimination towards mother’s couches?

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by eyebleaf on Dec 3, 2008 3:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why SO much

fail

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My Hilite Pack was better.

A realtime look at the Schenn hit!

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by Archimedies on Dec 3, 2008 6:11 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

E-mail me the link when you do it so I can include it in the recap.

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by PPP on Dec 3, 2008 6:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will!

All our videos are embeddable.

I wont bother passing along packs that I dont personally assemblem solely because I can’t guarentee their top quality

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by Archimedies on Dec 3, 2008 6:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FFFFFFFFUCK

You can’t watch Sportsnet videos from the US apparently.

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