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Holiday Contest Rules

This week's Fanpost starter topic: invent a new statistic and write a post about it.

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Do the Christmas Contest FanPosts have to be about the starter topic?

by JohnnyG on Dec 8, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Nope!

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by Chemmy on Dec 8, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope!

They can be about anything! The fanposts can be about anything Leaf-related.

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by PPP on Dec 8, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Users should also feel comfortable writing long form essays about how much they like me, Chemmy.

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by Chemmy on Dec 8, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

What if they want to write a long form essay extolling the virtues of PPP (the man, not the site) instead of you?

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 8, 2008 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be an unwise decision.

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by Chemmy on Dec 8, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Dare I say Banhammer™ worthy?

by bkblades on Dec 8, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Why? Are you really going to ban me? I think not. You need me around to keep bringing up sexytime dolls and egg threads on that talk about girls kissing other girls. You won’t ban little old me…

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 8, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

plus the brick smashing and stabbings that may stem from it

Because Taking The Leafs Seriously Is Not An Option

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent points, Jared. I wasn’t going to threaten violence, but maybe I should have…

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 8, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

usually it is implied with you

Because Taking The Leafs Seriously Is Not An Option

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed. But sometimes a girl needs to be upfront with her demands.

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 8, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Some might say that that is the smarter move.

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by PPP on Dec 8, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I thought, and I’m nothing if not smart. I know which side my bread is buttered on…

"Hootenanny? Well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny"

by Mabel on Dec 8, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Does this need to be a quantifiable statistic?

Actually, this reminds me of a j-school assingment from years ago. We were to devise an experiment and then do a write-up of the results. Mine was this – when confronted with a clearly-marked door, what percentage of people will still try to open it the wrong way?

(In that instance, it turned out to be almost one in seven.)

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by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

I just want people to write good fanposts. It can be about anything at all, the statistic idea is just to help people’s imaginations get going. :)

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by Chemmy on Dec 8, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Good is overrated. :)

But a new statistic – there’s immortality (or infamy) to be found there….

Failing that, it could be either a new lie or d@mned lie….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Klein and Reif

used to have their perserverence index for goaltenders. I always thought that was a nifty one.

It was a weighted mix of save percentage plus workload. Have to see if I can remember the math.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the internets

(save percentage *600 + avg shots against)/0.6 = perserverence index

Toskala
(.885*600 + 27.8)/.6 = 931.333

Luongo
(.928*600 + 30.2)/.6 = 978.333

Now, in the mid-80s, 931 would have been awesome. Not Vezina-winning, but not too shabby. Save percentage has done some wacky things in the past 20-odd years.

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by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

On 30 shots, the difference between .928 and .885 is about 4 goals every 3 games.

Weird to think that 1 goal a game separates truly dominant goalies from crummy ones.

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by Chemmy on Dec 8, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So who is going to take 1967ers wonderful suggestion (since he’s more than qualified AND the only one right now…) to look into the perseverance index?

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by PPP on Dec 8, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

So there's the challenge

Find a way to document how badly the goalies really are (or aren’t) playing….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The knock on the stat, even then, was that there was no measure of the quality of a given shot. K&R acknowledged this.

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by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t that same thing be said for the regular ol GAA and SV%?

by JohnnyG on Dec 8, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure

What it means, though, is that it’s pretty touch to really get a handle on how a goalie is playing, based on his numbers alone.

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by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough

make that

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by 1967ers on Dec 8, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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