Draft Open Thread - Goodbye Stranger?
by PPP
on Jun 20, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
Wow, what a time to go on vacation. Mats Sundin might finally be fetching the Leafs some assets as it's clear that he will not be returning to Toronto. The Habs' pick 25th overall so it would give the Leafs two picks in the first round or some additional leverage to move up into the top 6 of the draft.
For those of you following the draft with a laptop handy feel free to use this as an open thread to discuss the picks as they are made and any trades that might come down the pike.
Update: No trade for Mats yet - the 25th pick went to Calgary in the Tanguay deal - but the Leafs move conditional picks to the Islanders in order to move up 2 spots to pick up Luke Schenn. Quite a bold move by Fletcher to get the Leafs into the realm of the 'sure thing' (as much as they can be when talking about a draft pick).
He's just the kind of defenceman that the Leafs need. What a great pick.
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Great tune.. Except now it is stuck on repeat in my head! aaargh!
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 20, 2008 5:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Stay tuned for me burning a Sundin jersey tomorrow if this happens. Why the fuck would Toronto let Mats talk to Montreal? Jesus.
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by Chemmy on Jun 20, 2008 6:16 PM EDT 0 recs
I’m hoping it’s all just an elaborate psyche out. Mind games, if you will.
by LeafFanInVan on
Jun 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT
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Because then maybe they get a 1st rounder when he signs there instead of nothing?
by rob m. on
Jun 20, 2008 6:25 PM EDT
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The more I think about it, I wonder if the timing here is intentional on Cliff’s part.
Here’s a rough timeline:
Earlier this week, Fletcher and Gainey chat about Sundin. Cliff says the asking price is a first rounder for his rights. Gainey he says he might be willing to pay, but only if he had a contract agreement in place. Cliff says sorry, can’t give you permission to talk to him, you could just strike a deal and then wait until July 1.
Cliff waits.
Suddenly, sometime this afternoon, Fletcher calls Gainey and tells him he’s changed his mind: yes, he can talk to Mats. But the asking price is a first round pick this year, so he only has a few hours.
That’s not enough time to get a contract done, especially with Mats in Europe. But it is enough time for Gainey to figure out if there’s a deal to be made. If he thinks there is, he gives up the first. If not, his window ends tonight and he doesn’t have anything firmly in place for July 1.
And of course, Cliff is probably working the Red Wings, Ranger or Senators at the same time.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 20, 2008 6:46 PM EDT 0 recs
Looks like it’s tanguay not sundin for montreal’s first
by rob m. on Jun 20, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Versus might as well be on Mars
Has Tampa made it’s choice?
Has Tanguay been traded to Montreal?
I feel like I’m the credits at the end of an old episode of batman…
My TV gets 30 channels and versus aint one of ‘em…
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by mf37 on Jun 20, 2008 7:39 PM EDT 0 recs
ditto
I’m just making stuff up as I usually do. I figure I’ll read about anything earth shattering tomorrow here on the series of tubes
by loser domi on
Jun 20, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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So far..
Stamkos -> Tampa
Doughty -> LA
Bogosian -> atlanta
Trades:
Tanguay -> habs for picks
Cammeleri -> flames for a 3 way with picks
Jokinen -> phoenix for a couple D-men and a pick
by LeafFanInVan on
Jun 20, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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That doesn’t sound like much for either Cammeleri or Jokinnen, does it?
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 20, 2008 7:43 PM EDT 0 recs
The D-guys from phoenix (Ballard and someone, I forget) are solid but yeah, seems a little light. There was some complex sounding 3-way between LA,Calgary and Anaheim that resulted in the trading of picks around for Cammerleri -> cgy
by LeafFanInVan on
Jun 20, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Teh Suck
Jokinen to the Coyotes? I didn’t see that one coming. Man, Florida is going to suck in perpetuity.
I wonder what the deal is with Cammeleri, there have been so many trade rumours attached to that guy. Is it just because he’s an impeding UFA and his price tag is going to be too high?
Thanks for posting the info…
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by mf37 on
Jun 20, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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Leafs have made a deal with the Islanders.
Swap picks, no specifics yet.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 20, 2008 7:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Nope… its the #7 and a 2nd and a 3rd for the 5th.
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by Down Goes Brown on
Jun 20, 2008 8:01 PM EDT
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Schenn!
I’m pumped, great pickup. Really what the Leafs need too!
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 20, 2008 8:04 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm confused (or at least more than usual)
The Leafs traded their first round pick (7th) a second round pick and a third round pick to move up to 5th and they drafted Luke Schenn?
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by mf37 on Jun 20, 2008 8:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Sounds like a potential stud d-man though, something that has definitely been sorely lacking.. Adam Foote-esque they say.. Sounds good to me
by LeafFanInVan on
Jun 20, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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That’s about it. The second and third rounders are conditional but I think it’s a pretty light price to pay to go from drafting a project forward/defenceman to a bona fide stud defender.
by PPP on
Jun 20, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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Described by McGuire as a “one man search and destroy”.
I could warm up to this.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 20, 2008 8:09 PM EDT 0 recs
I like the move. I like Fletcher’s argument that quality trumps quantity.
by PPP on
Jun 20, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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Kind of surprised personally. I guess they really think he’s that much better than Myers.
And we’re still stuck with McCabe. Motherfuck.
by rob m. on Jun 20, 2008 8:12 PM EDT 0 recs
You’re killing me! By training camp he’ll be gone…God willing.
by PPP on
Jun 20, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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You’re killing me! By training camp he’ll be gone…God willing.
Lightning strike?
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by Down Goes Brown on
Jun 20, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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The Almighty works in mysterious ways. Just look at how His team hasn’t won the Cup in 41 years.
Lightning strike?
His salary comes off the books…
by PPP on
Jun 20, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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i'm drunk
what did i miss?
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by eyebleaf on Jun 20, 2008 9:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Draft schmaft
Let’s see Cox shit on Fletcher (let’s drop the interim tag, shall we?) for giving up 3 draft picks to get 1 in return. He’ll find the cloud around this silver lining.
Why do I care?
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by clark4calder on Jun 20, 2008 11:11 PM EDT 0 recs
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