What Are They Saying?
This is a new feature where we're going to quote local papers, opposition papers, and opposition bloggers on the previous night's game. As always, give us your feedback in the comments.
From SBNation's own Die By The Blade:
The power play looked good all night and would have had five or six power play goals if not for the stellar play of goalie Justin Pogge.
I have to agree with D.O. here, the biggest story last night was Pogge making the crystal clear statement that he wants to play in the NHL.
More after the jump!
The Star had this:
The folks who showed up to see the Leafs beat the Sabres 7-4 seemed thrilled to be occupying real estate they probably otherwise could not afford. The closest-to-the-ice platinums, whose padded cushions match the austere suit-and-tied wardrobes of their typical business-class inhabitants, had perhaps never seen so many fun lovers in team colours. So the atmosphere was more boisterous than the usual business meeting in progress.
This is a little sad. With a young team and a loud building behind them, the Leafs came out breathing fire last night. One has to wonder if kicking out most of the lower bowl and making those seats available to actual fans wouldn't help the on ice product.
The Star also had this to say:
One play in particular speaks volumes for this new philosophy. A re-invigorated Jason Blake – who picked up a goal and an assist and played the part of forechecking pest – was killing a penalty in the second period.
Blake looked like a competent hockey player last night, anyone who watched must have been as mystified as I was.
Jeff Finger, the free-agent defenceman few had heard of, led the team with four blocked shots.
"That's what matters in this game," said Finger. "You do the simple things right, you're going to win."
That's a good start for a guy who's going to come under a lot of scrutiny. If Finger plays physical and blocks shots, he'll earn a lot of fans in Ontario.
Winger Ryan Hollweg stirred things up, leading the team with five hits and throwing in a fight for good measure.
I still think Hollweg is a liability, he has a tendency to throw hits that are pretty close to being from behind, but last night he flattened Peters, got Ondrus beaten up by Kaleta, and then got Peters tossed from the game. Hollweg lived up to being an annoying player on the ice, I just hope he keeps his hits clean.
Jiri Tlusty, Matt Stajan and Boyd Devereaux also scored for the Leafs, who, on the downside, allowed three power-play goals and took too many undisciplined penalties.
Our PK still sucks. Hopefully Jamal Mayers, who was brought in pretty much entirely to be a veteran presence and run the PK, helps things out and the Leafs get more comfortable in a new system.
Finally, here's what the Buffalo News had to say about the Leafs last night:
But the Leafs beat Miller three times on 11 shots and solved prospect Jhonas Enroth three times on 13 shots and added an empty-net goal with 17 seconds left.
They sure did.
Tallinder made the Sabres’ first mistake of the exhibition season midway through the first period. He was skating out of his zone and dropped a pass that went to the Leafs’ Dominic Moore. The forward beat Ryan Miller with a high shot to tie the game at 1-1.
Dominic Moore, your Pension Plan Puppets 1st star for last night.
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Hollweg
I guess I’m the only one who wasn’t really impressed. His hit on Peters was a cheap shot and should have been called interference. And how do you get one-punched by Andrew Peters? Is that Peters first ever win against a non-goalie?
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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 23, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
Eh, a cheapshot on a dumb goon like Peters doesn’t bother me, I just don’t want Hollweg to injure a skilled player.
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After that golf swing I could care less if a Leaf hits him a stride or so late.
I missed the fight but I would guess since it was Peters that Hollweg slipped.
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It is
only because you are not used to the Leafs being the physical aggressor after three years of playing like pussies. All Hollweg, all the time!
It was definitely weird to see the Leafs pressing the issue.
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that hit
set the tone for a 7-4 ass whupping, and the fight was meaningless. Sorry PP, but I hope Heatley from behind is next on Hollweg’s list. It’s time to kick some ass, and that can’t be done in a nice way.
Making teams fear them absolutely
earned Philly sixth in the conference last year, and nearly a birth to the semi-finals. I’m more than willing to repeat that task with the Leafs.
by penaltyshots on Sep 23, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
correction,
should have said nearly got Philly to the SC finals.
by penaltyshots on Sep 23, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
hollweg hulk
I am also afraid of the potential havoc that Hollweg may yet wreak. But just like for the defense and waterbug spots, the asskicker(s) position is competitive. Lets wait until he actually makes the lineup before having a kinipshun fit about his possible downside. Plus, is it just me, or does not the fact that Wilson is able to get his troops to stick to the plan somewhat in such a short period of time confirm that Maurice was just a poser who lucked out in Carolina?
Plus, is it just me, or does not the fact that Wilson is able to get his troops to stick to the plan somewhat in such a short period of time confirm that Maurice was just a poser who lucked out in Carolina?
We’ll know better by the end of the first quarter of the season but after one game it sure looks that way.
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Someone more clever and/or creative than me needs to write-up a review of this game as if Maurice were still the coach.
I wonder if the dark clouds of coughing up a goal 45 seconds in, undisciplined hockey, poor penalty killing, giving the Sabres seven power plays, the failure to call a time-out when it was 6-4, and giving up 15 shots in the second would have the same bright, shiny, Ron Wilson polished silver lining…
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I guess the main thing to remember is this is one game of an incomplete team. Listening over the course of a few days and an 82 game season are not the same thing.
As far as Pogge is concerned, let’s not rush him. We have no need to rush him, and he’s not going to get any rust on him in the AHL. Toskala is more than capable of handling the reigns. Sounds like management may be of the same mindset, not wanting to subject the few golden tickets they’ve got to persistent losing. Me thinks Schenn and Pogge will be spenidng most of their time in junior and the farm respectively…
And, I agree with mf. Maybe a recurring post game blog could be done, with Mo’ as coach…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 23, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
By the same token...
How many games does Pogge need to play in the AHL? If the Leafs (as I suspect might be the case) are not as bad as they are slated to be then why not bring him up and cash in Vesa after over 100 games in the AHL?
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Agreed
I hope Vesa puts up staggeringly good numbers and gets a really nice return at the trade deadline. Bring up Pogge and let him play out the string with Cujo.
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See, there you go rushing him…
As hard as it is to be a d-man in the NHL (hence the no rush on Schenn) it’s got to be ten times the pressure in the NHL. Didn’t the Marlies get better in the playoffs after benching Pogge and going with Clemmenson?
Seriously, he didn’t even play a full game against actual NHL talent yet. Maybe do the Bernier approach in LA and leave him with the team (if he’s not subject to waivers) and let him start an actual game in the regular season. See what he’s got when it counts…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 23, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not rushing. If the team still plays like there’s a fire drill going on in their zone come February then maybe you push things back a year.
But, if they have things together then start getting Pogge the NHL experience he’ll need in two years when the Leafs are primed to contend again…in theory…
The Marlies didn’t get better after Pogge got benched. That entire fiasco was a horrible move by Gilbert. Check out Steve’s writings on Pogge. That move had less to do with Pogge’s level of play than with some weird power trip by the coach.
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I Stand Corrected
Must have been some bad writing somewhere else I read the Pogge thing.
That said, if things look sunshine and rainbows, then let’s bring him up. Toskala could fetch a pretty penny on the market, and Cujo would be an amazing mentor for any leafs goalie. I still think it’s rushing him in, but it won’t be a losing atmosphere. Thing is, would you do the same for Schenn, or should he see some AHL action first (if he goes back to junior this year?) This was the guy scouts were saying was the most NHL ready of the d-men drafted this year…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 23, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Schenn
Mirtle has a good post about the history of 18 year old defencemen playing in the NHL.
His year in junior and a year in the AHL gives the Leafs time to get a settled defence in place with the deadwood cleared out and then he strolls into a composed unit on the third pairing as a 20 year old with a year of junior experience.
That might be a bit long but even then he gets to come in next year with a mostly cleared out defence but certainly much more cohesive (we hope).
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Schenn is ineligible for the AHL until he’s 20, so it has to be back to the Dub for at least one more year.
I think the most important piece in much of this is RFA/UFA status. The current pattern is guys getting a big raise after three years in the NHL and then a MASSIVE raise to off-set their impending UFA status. This is going to have huge downstream cap implications.
If indeed the Leafs are trying to build a core with Pogge, Schenn, Kulemin and a mass of 2009 draft picks, they’re going to have to plan their budget (and each kids’ first pro year) accodringly.
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I posted this on Mirtle’s site about why the Thrashers would be dumb to bring up Bogosian:
“Otherwise, I could point out that there is another Atlanta Thrashers player who started at 18.”
And how have the Thrashers done with Kovalchuk? How will the Thrashers look when Kovalchuk gets traded at the deadline of the 09-10 season?
Everyone wants to see their high draft picks show up and contribute, but this is the salary cap era. In Toronto, prior to the current CBA there’d be no problem bringing up a guy like Luke Schenn. Who cares if he’s a UFA one year earlier, you can pay him.
You can’t do that any more. There’s no sense wasting a year of a promising player’s RFA status if you’re not going to even sniff the playoffs, especially if that player is good enough to take you out of the draft lottery.
RFA is basically your license to underpay a player. Talented RFAs who can contribute are going to be the difference between good teams and horrible teams in the salary cap era.
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There's a huge blog post in this..
…and I’m way too busy with work to do it.
Assembling and managing a young core is going to be the big challenge under the CBA. It will be fascinating to see how Pittsburgh handles their talent and should teams like LA ever get it together, to see if /how their approach differs.
I think the Sens did a horrible job in this regard and it’s likely cost them their shot. With Alfredsson aging and starting to run into a bit more injury problems you can see their window of opportunity closing.
To that end, there’s a blog post floating around somewhere out there with team salary commitments as of 2012. It’s interesting to see which teams have lots of contracts to deal with (Leafs are still paying Blake and paying-off Tucker) while other teams are free and clear (Montreal is one, Vancouver might be another).
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