FTB - Back to Work Edition
by Chemmy on Jan 5, 2009 9:08 AM EST
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PrintGotta hustle through this FTB today:
- Cox Bloc wants you to know the polls are still open for Mittenstringer of the Year.
- loser domi wants you to check out one of her other writing gigs, as well as some LOLeafs.
- Norte has a new post up about ... I don't know actually.
- Foster Hewitt wants to remind you to buy a Chevrolet. Check out other great historical pictures at Vintage Leafs.
- It's Tokarski tonight. I can't wait to see the boys complete the drive for five.
- haha the sens suck.
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Re: Sens
A little bird tells me that Craig Hartsburg told a friend that the players simply refuse to play a system, and that “I’ve never coached a bigger bunch of babies in my life”.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 5, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions
Really?
That is very interesting and not that surprising. From watching the sens and reading Scarlett Ice and Five For Smiting it sures sounds like they are just doing whatever they feel like.
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It’s one thing to tune a coach out… the Leafs will do it to Wilson eventually, probably sooner than later. It happens to Burns everywhere he goes. It’s part of the job.
But the Sens seem to tune coaches out immediately. They did it to Pollack, to Murray (more or less) and now they haven’t even given Hartsburg a chance. He walked in one day one and they were already not listening.
But Alfie is still a great leader, right? No reason to give that another look-see…
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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 5, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
The only problem with enjoying the Sens’ collapse is the possibility that they will draft higher than us in June. That would not be nice.
Yeah
It kind of sucks but they’ll probably draft in the 5+ range (barring some unforseen collapse) and miss out on the franchise players. Hopefully they’ll ruin whoever they draft. Plus, the Heatley, Spezza, Alfie, Fisher contracts make it very hard to improve the team.
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if only...
there was some way to get the sens stink off of Fisher…it seems to be impacting his game now.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
The Sens will trade at least one of their bug three and at least one of either Vermette, Volchenkov or Fisher in an attempt to rebuild. One of the big three has to go for them to do anything, but loosing any of the others will cripple them hilariously.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Spezza
is my guess to go. He’s not someone you can build a team around, but he can rack up the points. I just have no idea who’d take him. Florida?
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
He’s young and can score. I wouldn’t give up big assets for him, but I would take Spezza if Ottawa was jammed up and needed to dump salary fast.
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he won't go...
because of what you pointed out, he;s not a building block. He also won’t be traded because he’s being paid as a cornerstone franchise player. $7M a year is steep for any team. You’re talking more than Luongo, more than Datsyuk, more than Morrow, more than Kopitar…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
What?
He gets 7 million? A year? Wow. This salary cap thing sure has kept things in check. That’s not insane at all.
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
Murray
really made a mess of the Sens.
I still can’t believe how much Fisher gets paid. He’s a solid player, but not worth anything more than $3 mill.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
does he have an NTC too? cause that would be hilarity
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
He does, but it doesn’t kick in until next season which is why they may be desperate to deal him now.
And it’s not just $7M, it’s $7M for the next seven years.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 5, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
that's Spezza
who only has a NTC that kicks in next season.
Do you know if Fisher does?
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, you’re right I misread the question.
According to this page, Fisher has the dreaded no-movement clause until 2011, at which point it becomes a limited no-trade.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 5, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I should mention that I see a few errors on that page, so Fisher’s status may not be 100% accurate.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 5, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
so the Sens are really screwed, then, for a long time.
Sweet.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
But at least they have the 27th best prospects in the NHL.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jan 5, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Heatly is a more viable option because, he can given any line mate who can pass at a third liner level, put up 30 goals easy.
Spezza needs a pure finnisher to be fully effective.
Alfredson probably wont go because Sens fans would burn down the SBC
god I hope he gets traded
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
i don't see heatley moving...
in fact, i don’t see any of the “big three” going anywhere.
guys like fisher, volchenkov and vermette are more likely to be moved.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that it is hard to see any of em going, but I’m sure Muckler will have his hand forced and either give him away for nothing or take a huge gamble on a Gaborik or something like that and further cripple the team.
Either way, he’s not gonna get face value unless he can swindle Tampa or Florida for something viable
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
ott has gerber coming off the books next year, and kuba. that’s 6M in savings right there…if they buy a decent headstrong goaltender who could be a real locker room presence, that might be enough…
still, they brought in Smith for his leadership qualities, but it sounds like nothing’s changed.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I think probably nothing short of total teardown will change things in Ottawa. They’ve got it into their heads that they are just awesome and don’t need anyone’s advice. There is no cure but the fire.
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
fire is the clenser, and ligthing anything senator related on fire is aces in my books
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
it will be
glorious to watch, but not this year… because this is the Leaf’s firesale year. They can wait.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
'zactly
we put the “everything must go” plan into action first, so it is our turn!
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
Gah, I just want Burke to do something, like NOW. Something small to wet my whistle.
Hell, have Cujo retire, that would be nice
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know
I’ve been hoping since the 27th that I would wake up one morning and find the miracle trade had happened….
but nothing so far.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
it would be awesome to see...
burke trades hollweg and mayers straight up for rick nash. follwed by..
burke trades deveaux and sifers for kovalchuk straight up…
a boy can dream.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Cujo and Toskala, for Luongo.
Blake and Newbury for Getzlaf!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
that'd be sweet...our first line would be
Kovy-Getzlaf-Nash
Kubina-Kaberle
Luongo
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Luongo’s groin is blown (TWSS!) and I bet it’ll be an issue for him for a while, if not the rest of his career.
I’m sorta sad the Leafs couldn’tve done something to get Labarbera, I watched him in a few games for LA and was impressed by his size + speed.
you watched the wrong games...
he’s JS Aubin all over…except it’s not happening to the leafs.
LaHanna Barbera will play well until it matters, then he’ll implode at the worst possible time and take every one on the team down with him…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think he could have filled the gap quite ably, allowing the leafs to not embarass themselves while giving toskala the choice starts to showcase himself before foisting him off on some team.
Could he really be any worse than the Toskala/Cujo tandem? Also he does make some really spectacular saves, and that helps boost morale and make the games more exciting.. Rather than some feeble attempt to glove a puck or the slo-mo crease action of cujo..
i thought...
we should have traded Toskala for Turco straight up while Dallas was still struggling.
Marty was lights out against Van last night…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Marty always rocks it against the canucks, it seems.
Turco for Tosk would be awesome but that’d never happen, pipe dream! Even when Dallas was in the terlet they wouldn’t make that trade..
hull
convinced them to sign avery…
stranger things have happened. at the time, everyone was pointing their finger at turco saying his play was the issue (which it was, but avery had a huge impact on the dressing room….)
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I want him to do something
but not just any old thing. I hate the “do something just to do something” move. Be smart about it, don’t just trade and dump willy nilly. I figure he’s a planning something, so I can wait.
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
BUT I WANT IT NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
pssssh
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
he is!
he’s planning on getting 1st overall on draft day.
ya’ll don’t believe me, but you’ll see…oh you’ll see…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
you’re tenting your fingers arnt you?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
nope...
stroking the beard….
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
given that alfie is captain until he’s dead or retires…i see no change in that team until 2013…
talking about worthless captains…what the hell has gotten into crosby?
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
all his whining has turned into epic hissy fits, it reminds me of Jagr.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
no idea about Jagr
but Sid needs a good slap, punching a guy in the nuts, and then jumping a guy in the faceoff? I have no idea what’s going on with him, but if he keeps this up I want him nowhere near the 2010 team.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’s snapped, what with no one to defend him and all. Plus, he’s young and doesn’t handle the being pushed around well. Hopefully he’ll either get a defender, or grow up, because he is starting to make me ill with the idiocy.
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
especially
with how overexposed he is.
Maybe part of the problem is Therrien. I think if the losing streak continues, he’ll go.
But yes, the Pens need some people in that locker room with a voice, to take some of the pressure of Sid.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
You’re probably right. He needs a bit less exposure, me thinks. And yes, Therrien may lose his job if this continues.
Yeah, he’s a good player, but he can’t do everything by himself, so the Pens best get him some help with that. And no, I don’t mean more Malkin. Someone like a Roberts-type, like blurr said.
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
i know!
Avery!
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bwahahaha!
That would be the best comedy ever. Sid would lose his mind, and call everyone sloppy seconds, and the two of them would wreck the town of Pittsburgh. Someone get on that!
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
Avery with crosby?
My cock knocker senses are tingling…
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing
Shanahan???
I can’t think of many options out there…
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
i know...
he’s their “captain” and his play has been absolutely embarrassing. he needs guys like roberts and recchi around to keep him on an even keel.
i really think we’re witnessing the beginning of a britney spears-esque meltdown for the guy
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Now I have a hilarious mental image of Crosbny with a shaved head attacking Pierre McQuire with an umbrella
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
thanks...
now i do to
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
haha
me too, and I love it.
I would love an image of anything attacking McGuire…
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
MONSTER!!!!!MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/whack whack whack
/thud
(pierre lies dead in a pool of his own blood while sid silently rocks back and forth stroking his bloodied umbrella)
the end
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
you forgot
“and we all lived happily ever after”
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Fisher
makes $6mill. That’s more of an unmoveable contract than Blake at $4 mill.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
it's all about cap hit...
fisher’s is 4.2M…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
i believe...
it’s avg value of the contract over the term of the contract.
for eg: alfie makes 5.5M this, then 9M next, but the way his contract works, over the entire span of it, he’s only a 4.5M cap hit. that’s actually reasonable for a guy like him…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
except
that he’s getting up there in years and although he’s been quite the player, do you think a team would take a risk on him now?
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
well...
we’re paying blake pretty much the same amount, and as much as i hate alfie, he’s better than blake.
my biggest worry would be durability. his contract was to ensure he retires a sen, so good for them. his last year he only makes like $1M
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
well yeah
but I think it’s obvious that Alfie won’t be going anywhere. Neitehr will Blakey, but at least there’s no letter on his chest and Burke has no sentimental attachment to him, so he could be buried in the minors if need be.
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Attn: Brian Burke
I love it when you bury things in the minors.
Regards,
Mabel
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
pleasure's all mine
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
true, but that kinda takes him out of the running for small market semi sucky teams like Columbus or Nashville that may want a playoff push now
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
it's still
way too much money for what he brings to the table.
I take it his contract is front-loaded then – when does the salary get below his cap hit?
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
2012
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
ouch
that’s a lot of years of sens suckiness to come…
by Karina on Jan 5, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
ya...
i’ve said it before. i secretly like mike fisher, but not at that cost. that’s like handzus in LA. way too much money for a checking forward. if Fisher had a little more offensive upside, he’d almost be worth it, but he’s a glorified 3rd liner playing 2nd line center…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I have similar feelings about Volchenkov, dude is a warrior.
I have no idea what his salary or cap hit are though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
he's around $2M i believe...
absolutely worth it. he’d be a steal. he’s got top2 potential as a shut down d man. i secretly like him as well…shhh don’t tell anybody
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ummmm
you ‘secretly’ like a lot of Sens. What’s up with that? Don’t you know the Leafs have a better record than them over the past year?
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
they have a few decent players...
hidden behind their sucky top line guys. i can appreciate a good hockey player, regardless the team.
i’m not saying they should win the cup or anything, i’m actually saying that if they put more focus on good players like fisher (the guy’s a saint, seriously, he’d be a way better captain than alfie..) i’d probably just hate them, and not loathe them
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I kid blurr
I can appreciate a good hockey player too. My tongue was in cheek there.
I'm not jaded, I'm just realistic.
Any player that lives up to a nickname like A-Train has something going for them.
He still reeks of Trojan though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
yes...
won’t touch him until the stink comes off
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on Jan 5, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Volchenkov
Is awesome. That is all!
Between him and Yushkevich I’m quite the russian-D-man booster, it seems.
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