FTB - Juggernaut Edition
by PPP
on Jan 6, 2009 9:48 AM EST
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God I love the World Juniors. There is nothing better than watching Team Canada take on the world over the holidays. I like it when it's in Europe because you can wake up, turn on the TV, and watch the games while having a leisurely breakfast with the family. Unfortunately, one thing that is usually missing from those tournaments are the fans which is why the IIHF wants Canada to host the tournament every year. I don't think I like that idea. Aside from the unfairness of having home ice advantage every year there is the issue of revenue splitting that would need to be addressed.
Anyway, here are some links to read while you ponder if the Shimmy for Six will succeed...
- The Torontoist is running it's Heroes and Villains feature for 2008 and guess who made it from the Leafs. Seriously, guess because it's a long list of suspects.
- Michael Aldred has a recap of last night's game. Here's one quibble I had from last night's coverage: Markstrom is not a diver. He flopped once when a Swede was driven into him but he got nailed three other times. His helmet does come off comically easily though.
- Blurr's got a beef so look out Bloods. I mean, he must be a Crip right? Their colour is blue.
- TSM can't believe how bad sports radio is in Toronto. Or how dumb Berger is.
- Steve is going to pop a vein at Berger's stupidity. I am sensing a pattern: Howard Berger is a moron. Actually, if you only click one link make it that one.
- Or this one by Andrew Bucholtz about a pipe dream that will help end the benefits of tanking.
- Matt Stajan threw up on Loser Domi's shoes. Not really but she wrote a new player's perspective.
- The General has a new poll and more explanations. I want none of those SOBs back. Except Steen who I told you all was awesome.
- Eyebeleaf is weird with his decisions about which players to boo. Try hard and suck and not really get worked up about it = boo. Suck and not give a damn and repeatedly state that fans shouldn't boo = not boo. Take 9 months to come back to hockey for a team that is not the one that you always wanted to retire with = handjob.
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Was there not a better picture to be used for the villain? Come on, for someone not familiar with hockey it makes it seem like Fletcher is the villain. What a lousy selection.
by lb71 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:54 AM EST
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I like the nuance, it makes Peddie look like the evil emperor in the background
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by JaredFromLondon on
Jan 6, 2009 9:55 AM EST
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One more for the FTB...
Don’t boo Bryan McCabe tonight. Save your wrath for Raycroft.
http://www.sportsandthecity.com/2009/01/save-your-boos.html
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:02 AM EST
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It’s a brave stance but a little misguided. McCabe deserves more then a few boos. His performance down the stretch last year was disgraceful.
by general borschevsky on
Jan 6, 2009 10:18 AM EST
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can we let bygones be bygones?
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:24 AM EST
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and, in freakish coincidence, the last two seasons, when the leafs were, you know, competing for the stanley cup, their season fell apart when mccabe went down with injury.
boo away!
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:25 AM EST
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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1566705/bryan_mccabe_bloopers_reel/
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:27 AM EST
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we’ve all seen it. plenty of times.
i choose to remember the good times. the one timers, the playoff goals, the hits…etc.
he was a rudey. i enjoyed him during the great times.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:28 AM EST
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so did i...
but i can change my mind… :P
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:29 AM EST
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of course you can, because you’re a grown man.
but, wait, what are you, DGB version 2.0?
let him run with that schtick. he is, on record, the only human being who has never changed his mind, after all.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:30 AM EST
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here’s the thing…
1. McCabe did not adept well to the new rules coming out of the lockout.
2. Our defensive depth was incredibly suspect during these points of injury (Woz, Bell, etc…)
3. His defensive gaffes were far more visible when we had to rely on Raycroft to bail him out…
all that said, he waived his contract. not my problem anymore. he never did much to earn my adulation though. i get your Sundin argument, and one day, we’ll all agree with you I think. McCabe…not so much.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:34 AM EST
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there were two seasons out of seven that mccabe was a minus player. say what you want about the statistic, but considering the goaltending we’ve received post lockout, it was a miracle he wasn’t -30 like sheldon souray.
personally, i think the notion that he didn’t adapt to the rules is bogus. but that’s me.
are you blaming him for the lack of defensive depth?
and, yes, his gaffes were more visible in the final, dark days.
but, like you and DGB said (he commented over on my site), he waived his no-trade clause, and always played hard…i’m not saying give him a standing ovation, i’m just saying there’s no need to boo the guy.
DGB also said he wouldn’t boo Raycroft. I told him I wouldn’t either. I’d throw something at him instead.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:38 AM EST
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not blaming him for lack of depth. blaming the lack of depth for the losses incurred when he went down.
that doesn’t mean he’s irreplaceable, it means who we had playing behind him on the depth chart sucked even worse.
as far as raycroft goes…throwing something at him. it’s gotta be pretty big, the guy can’t get in front of a beach ball to stop it.
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:43 AM EST
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bwahahhah. If I could, I’d throw Wozniewski at him. Two birds, one stone.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:47 AM EST
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woz might be big enough…i’ll help if you need it.
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:48 AM EST
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Not that I disagree
But wouldn’t that be like booing at the Special Olympics?
You've had all your word nourishment for one day.
by Mattblack on
Jan 6, 2009 10:50 AM EST
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that's a cruel thing to say...
comparing special olympians to raycroft and woz.
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:53 AM EST
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You've had all your word nourishment for one day.
by Mattblack on
Jan 6, 2009 10:58 AM EST
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I think, eyebleaf, that Sundin returns your affection. He truly cares, and it shows. There is a connection between you, the fan, and the performer. McCabe, not so much. I’m not sure what he cares about, but I don’t think it’s hockey fans in Toronto.
by general borschevsky on
Jan 6, 2009 10:45 AM EST
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I don’t know, General, I just always thought that McCabe played with a lot of passion. Always played hard for his team, and for his teammates. Like I wrote, he tried to damn hard to live up to that contract. By all accounts, he’s doing well in Florida, out of the pressure.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:55 AM EST
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Agreed
He did play with a lot of passion. What’’s missing is the maturity.
McCabe was awesome for a while. He was a big part of those “Guts and Glory” Leafs that took out the Senators year after year. After he scored the own goal I actually felt sorry for him and started cheering for him more. I’m only sour on him because he really threw in the towel at the end of the year and played like utter crap in the final 2 weeks.
by general borschevsky on
Jan 6, 2009 11:06 AM EST
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fair enough, bro.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:13 AM EST
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McCabe’s failing was his own stupidity and his complete confidence in his abilities. He never recognized what he needed to do to improve and stubbornly refused to adapt at all.
That idiocy is why I hate him.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 11:28 AM EST
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It’s a little difficult to try and gain confidence in your abilities when you get booed in your own rink by 19,800 people because they’ve been riled up by idiotic “journalists” like Berger and Cox.
I always like McCabe – along with Tucker and Sundin they seemed like they really actually cared about Toronto and the team and the fans.
by WildWolfdog on
Jan 6, 2009 11:29 AM EST
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Care about the fans?
Seriously? Tucker especially was very adamant about his belief that Leaf fans had no right whatsoever to exhibit any displeasure about McCabe’s terrible play.
And my issue isn’t that he didn’t have confidence in his abilities it’s that nothing that happened from the lockout onwards made him doubt his style of play. Not being embarrassed in Sweden, not being terrible at the Olympics, not being a minus player for the first time in his career, not repeatedly getting called for obstruction, hooking, or tripping. Nothing ever made him think that he should adapt and Tucker and him saw no problem whatsoever with that.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 11:35 AM EST
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bro being a -2 with raycroft in net is a fucking accomplishment if there ever was one.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:36 AM EST
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I sense much anger in you, young Jedi warrior.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:34 AM EST
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(Raycroft is still better than Toskala)
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by Chemmy on
Jan 6, 2009 11:42 AM EST
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Good luck in your new career as a standup comedian.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:52 AM EST
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Chemmy, is this
another reverse psychology thing, like with Moore? (yes, I know you’ve done numbers on this, just asking)
Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing
by loser domi on
Jan 6, 2009 11:54 AM EST
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I love Dommy Moore.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 12:27 PM EST
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he cried moooore moooore mooore
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by JaredFromLondon on
Jan 6, 2009 12:28 PM EST
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Anger is the path to the dark side
All these angry folks will be Habs fans before they know it.
Peace and love….
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by 1967ers on
Jan 6, 2009 11:59 AM EST
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or Senator fans.
Then we will have them drawn and quartered
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by JaredFromLondon on
Jan 6, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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Om…
Om…
Om…
Or you can go the Martin Lawrence route:
WOOSAH
WOOSAH
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 12:08 PM EST
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SERENITY NOW!
Insanity later.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 12:14 PM EST
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but, wait, what are you, DGB version 2.0? Let him run with that schtick. he is, on record, the only human being who has never changed his mind, after all.
My god, man, you write about me more than I write about Wendel Clark.
I change my mind all the time. And, like a rational grown up, I realize that doing so can have consequences. That includes the way people perceive me. Shrugging your shoulders and saying “Oops, I changed my mind” isn’t some magic wand that gets you off the hook for your stupidity.
I told my wife I’d pick her up at the airport tonight. Now, I could always change my mind and let her walk home. That doesn’t mean she won’t be a little on the cranky side when she gets home.
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by Down Goes Brown on
Jan 6, 2009 1:43 PM EST
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That doesn’t mean she won’t be a little on the cranky side when she gets home.
And you would get the uncomfortable side of the couch.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 2:13 PM EST
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who the fuck said it was a magic want that gets you off the hook for your stupidity?
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 4:09 PM EST
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You
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 4:13 PM EST
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not really, ragamuffin.
i said he changed his mind, deal with it, instead of continuously whining and bitching and moaning and whining about what he said before.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 4:19 PM EST
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Which is like saying “let him off the hook for his stupidity”.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, Fredo’s return will have something special.*
*may or may not involve burning an effigy of him in front of the ACC.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 4:23 PM EST
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no, it’s like saying “a grown man changed his mind, get over it.”
burn away, my good friend.
you can never burn the record books, or the memories.
go check out the hockey reference page we sponsored.
GREATEST LEAF EVER
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 4:30 PM EST
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Semantics
“get over it”
“ignore it”
I bet you would have told the Hawaiians to ignore Japan’s sneak attack :P
“Guys, they changed their mind. They want to go to war now.”
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 4:39 PM EST
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yeah that’s a real accurate comparison to make.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 4:40 PM EST
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keep hating.
frankly, i enjoy it.
i enjoy it the most from you and DGB
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 4:40 PM EST
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I can’t wait until Sundin snaps his groin and Wellwood falls on his back and can’t get back up.
p.s. there is a Canucks blog in the works for you Benedict :P
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 5:09 PM EST
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It’ll be May before Mats finally decides he’s ready to play a game for the Canucks anyway.
“Oh youse guys didn’t make the playoffs? Oh well, fishing time!”
by LeafFanInVan on
Jan 6, 2009 5:19 PM EST
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he changed his mind, deal with it, instead of continuously whining and bitching and moaning and whining about what he said before.
I’ll try this exact line on my wife if/when she gets home from the airport.
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by Down Goes Brown on
Jan 6, 2009 4:43 PM EST
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she may go all sid crosby on you and punch all the blood out of your crotch…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:57 PM EST
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Or bite your hand like that Swede
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 5:09 PM EST
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zombie wife...
she wants your brainz…
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 5:25 PM EST
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correction
it was 05/06 and 07/08…prolonged losing streaks upon his removal from the lineup to do injury…
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:27 AM EST
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i love commenting to my own messages.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:28 AM EST
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That was more a function of a lack of depth on the blueline rather than losing McCabe’s awesome defensive prowess.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 11:26 AM EST
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Regardless, he obviously played a pretty damn important role on the team.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:34 AM EST
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Causation and Correlation
The Leafs were also a bad team. That probably had more to do with them losing games than not having him take his nightly two minor penalties.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 11:36 AM EST
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and it had a lot to do with a guy who played 25-27 minutes a night being out.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:37 AM EST
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And more to do with the guys stepping into that void being crap.
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 11:37 AM EST
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because a 25 minute guy is not replaceable. who said he was?
(we can do this ALL day)
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:38 AM EST
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We can
The Capitals have lost tonnes of man games from their top defenders and keep winning. Is that because their top defenders are crap or because the kids stepping in to fill the gaps are good?
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by PPP on
Jan 6, 2009 11:39 AM EST
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i shall go with the latter.
the lack of depth made mccabe that much more important. and it showed in his role on the team.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 11:54 AM EST
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But it’s a false importance.
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Jan 6, 2009 11:55 AM EST
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which does not mean...
he was good…
it means he sucked less.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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by blurr1974 on
Jan 6, 2009 11:56 AM EST
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We are all master debaters.
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 12:08 PM EST
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are we all gonna go blind…?
:P
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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Jan 6, 2009 12:10 PM EST
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how will I shave my palms if I go blind?
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by JaredFromLondon on
Jan 6, 2009 12:13 PM EST
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Woz, Bell, Harrison...
etc
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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Jan 6, 2009 11:38 AM EST
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vomit
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Jan 6, 2009 11:39 AM EST
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PPP
That is the best link you have thrown me. Ever!
Go Canucks!
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by eyebleaf on
Jan 6, 2009 10:12 AM EST
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I try :)
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Jan 6, 2009 10:18 AM EST
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Markstrom...
was an olympic medal diver.
his flops were oscar worthy.
seriously, if I were a swede, I’d be embarrassed.
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Jan 6, 2009 10:19 AM EST
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if I were a swede, I’d be embarrassed have better taste in music
Fixed.
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by Mattblack on
Jan 6, 2009 10:21 AM EST
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dude...
ABBA rawks
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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Jan 6, 2009 10:21 AM EST
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ABBA
sooooo ripped off Ace Of Bass
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Jan 6, 2009 10:24 AM EST
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Roxette!
took me forever to remember their name…
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Jan 6, 2009 12:15 PM EST
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I thought they were Danes. Were they Swedes?
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by 1967ers on
Jan 6, 2009 12:19 PM EST
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Swedes
Awesome Swedes.
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Jan 6, 2009 12:20 PM EST
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you got the look…that was their big hit.
all i could remember was the la la la la part before the line…
been driving me batty for an hour now…
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PPP...
seriously, you didn’t think Markstrom was diving. i’ll agree he definitely got hit at least once, but his pirouette and flying goalie mask were overly comical.
the first supposed knock on him, it was his own player as you pointed out, and he went apeshit. that kid needs to learn to keep it in check or he’ll never last in the nhl.
"You do dat, you go to da box, you know, uh, two minutes by yourself, and you feel shame, you know, and then you get free."
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Jan 6, 2009 11:12 AM EST
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That was
Pretty funny the way he went down… he had one leg swept out from under him, most goalies would’ve just tumbled down but he did a beautiful 360 and somehow managed to sent his mask flying. It really looked like the Swedes lost their cool in that game… knee-jerk reaction to everything.
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by Winkle on
Jan 6, 2009 11:17 AM EST
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see me battle irrational sweds here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrH0ukdOG-c
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Jan 6, 2009 11:18 AM EST
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they never recovered from that first goal. he was completely shaken up and never recovered.
also, hedman? meh…
i could see him becoming a pylon quite quickly in the nhl. he wasn’t that fast or mobile.
magnus was kind of invisible as well, but the few flashes i saw of him showed some skill
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Yea
The Canadians got to him right away and after that he was shakey the rest of the way… and the rest of the Swedes just overreacted everytime a Canadian brushed up against Markstrom and lost their focus.
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by Winkle on
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Definitely
Markstrom thought the whistle should have gone and that really unsettled him.
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heres my breakdown of the diving.
First one, Derek Roy style dive.
Second, goaltender interference by Espisito followed by an injury act that would do Ronaldo proud.
Third, incidental contact where neither player saw the other, followed by a Crosby tantrum with a blocker.
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Jan 6, 2009 11:18 AM EST
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in other words...
dive
dive
dive
“Conn, Sonar! Crazy Ivan!!!”
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Sean Connory’s character came from a little known part of Russia, little Scottland
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Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only, please.
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No. On the first one, that was totally a flop. The other three were not dives. He got nailed be Della Rovere (very dirty player), and slew footed twice by Esposito. You can argue whether he did it on purporse (I say no) but Markstrom wasn’t diving and having Maguire yell it every ten seconds made me uncomfortable.
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Yep, the Canadians were definitely taking liberties with hits on Markstrom.
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if it wasn’t diving, it sure was a sales job.
i sensed a little home team bias. not that Canada was getting all the calls, as Sweden didn’t take too many penalties, but that Canada did get away with quite a bit.
that said, LFIV mentioned rolli yesterday, and that’s the guy i think Markstrom is most like…mask flying off in dramatic fashion, spinning all over the ice….
that was embarrassing.
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I think the sales job comes a lot from his flying helmet.
I don’t think it was home team bias in the refs. If anything, Canada got the short end of that stick. But the announcers were making the Swedes sounds like Team Iceland.
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McGuire had his homer hat on tight last night. But if Markstrom had reacted to all the brushes with attitude and got up yelling bitching and throwing punches I’d respect him more than for the flopping around like a dead fish
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Della Rovere
Oh yes THAT was a shamefully dirty hit, he went straight for Markstrom, surprised he wasn’t ejected for that one.
The two Esposito… highly doubt they were intentional, you can tell he was avoiding body contact although I suppose you can argue that he could’ve made a better effort to get his leg tucked back in.
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by Winkle on
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Yeah
I’d say they were accidental but they still took out Markstrom’s legs.
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Agreed
It was accidental but Esposito didn’t make much of an effort to avoid the leg sweep.
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by Winkle on
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and Markstrom didn’t make much effort to not run into a charging forward either.
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Also Agreed
I don’t think Markstrom is used to North American or NHL hockey… he was expecting that everyone would avoid him with a 10 m radius of clearance…
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indeed,
Hedman also looked like a bully out there at times, I mean I can understand defending your goalie, but putting a guy in a headlock and punching him when he is helpless? no thanks
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Jan 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST
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good coaching to keep the team cool in that situation.
things could have fallen apart rather quickly if they had reacted…
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Jan 6, 2009 11:55 AM EST
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I was still hoping Tyler Mayers would feed him his lunch at one point or another though
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the focus...
was on markstrom. the guy came in as this unbeatable goliath.
a kid playing in the best men’s league not called the NHL. posting sick crazy numbers in the tourney, as he did in the Swedish elite league. that’s who we started the game facing…
he came out looking like an easily rattled kid who will fall down from a light breeze and can’t recover from quick goals mentally.
his stock fell due to his own play. his own play was what was embarrassing. if he hung in there and shook off that first goal, rather than concentrating on getting the refs attention, chances are the game would have been much closer.
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I was actually surprised to see him fall apart. The third goal was because he was so deep in his net which is classic no confidence goaltending.
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by PPP on
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once Espisito undressed him with that backhander he looked beat.
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Sick, Sick, Sick backhander and great work by DiDo on the boards.
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DiDo looked great out there. he might be a draft day steal…
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indeed, the fact that Quinn kept him on the top line (top line A or B, you decide) is a testament to how good he is, even without the huge numbers.
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his whole thing was he was a battler. he did the dirty work on the boards, kept the puck moving in the offensive zone, dug it out and got it to the middle.
kulemin and grabs could use a guy like that…
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Jan 6, 2009 11:49 AM EST
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I like the sound of that line up. As a second unit that is
Hags Nash and Kovalchuck as the primary of course.
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Jan 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST
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I ♥ Hagman...
but i don’t see him centering that line (kovy and nash aren’t center men material either…)
i’d take nash over kovy, give the two way role to hagman, who, being centered by tavares, with nash on the off wing, would be unstoppable.
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Jan 6, 2009 11:58 AM EST
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Tavares
might be a pipe dream, but I like it.
Nash and Kovy are doable though
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The Sens
must out-do us in everything, when we’re trying to win, they win more, when we’re trying to suck, they suck more…
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by Winkle on
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the only way 1st overall is impossible is if the sens win it.
we’d never trade with them, and they with us.
any other team, and I think we could throw something together to get it.
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Unless the Leafs have their own top 5 draft pick to deal, I think number one will be too costly to go after.
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with Fletcher and Burke working the phones…i think we’re more than capable of getting it.
i don’t think any trades of note are going to happen between now and draft day…
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probably not. I’m impatient though. I want to see a small move. Even if its like sending Hollweg to the minors, or Mayers for a 5th round pick. SOMETHING!
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Jan 6, 2009 12:13 PM EST
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what helped canada...
was playing the US and Russia before Sweden.
good games, top notch competition. just instilled confidence in the team.
also, tavares is redonkulous
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by blurr1974 on
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minus the mis-cue that cost Toka the shut out that is.
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The triple miscue. That was a brutal shift for Tavares.
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yeah, but he was allowed one or two as long as they didn’t cost the game
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shhhh...
you’re ruining it.
besides, one bad shift over how many…? i’ll take it.
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Me too!
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Excellent point
Yes he received a handful of dirty hits, no arguments there but the fact that he let himself get that rattled really hurt his stock… with the exception of the Della Rovere hit, the other ones are very standard NHL-fare… maybe they play less rough in the Euro-leagues but from that game you can tell he’s not ready for the physicality of the NHL.
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by Winkle on
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and...
i don’t get “uncomfortable” for kids this age, or once they go pro.
it’s not like they can expect all sunshine and roses. Markstrom’s flopping was embarrassing. Pierre called it as a dive, and although at times he was certainly hit, he was hit by kids half his size. the guy’s freaking huge…
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Jan 6, 2009 11:33 AM EST
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Like I mentioned, I liked the booing. That doesn’t bother me but when people that have the benefit of instant replays keep hammering away at what I consider to be lies then it bothers me.
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by PPP on
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I agree the Espisito hit was avoidable. But Markstroms performance after the hit was shameful and embarassing.
When Markstrom was rushing to the bench by Della rova was as much Markstroms fault as his I think. From the vid angle I’ve seen it looks like he is looking up the ice and probably saw nothing but a flash of yellow coming at him from behind. So he solidified the shoulder. Markstrom Pinballed.
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Jan 6, 2009 11:34 AM EST
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Della Rovere knew it was Markstrom. Even if he didn’t it was still going to be another dirty hit.
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I’m probably biased on this one as when I played there was many a time where i was playing that I was blindsided and hurt by fast moving shapes coming out the corner of my eye.
To me it looked like he was focused on the puck. He may have known, but he may not have.
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that is like saying...
van ryn turned and it’s his fault kostopolous pasted him…
the game’s fast, i don’t think he knew who was behind him, they didn’t hit head on…
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No, it's not.
No, he didn’t hit him head on but Della Rovere, as far as we all know, does not suffer from tunnel vision. He came in on a clear path where he could see Markstrom and he cut into him.
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i'll have to watch the vid again...
i didn’t see it like that at all. it looked like markstrom would have had a better view of DR than he of markstrom.
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Markstrom was focused on the bench, DR, on the puck. my interpritation.
The lazy swing DR made in the zone makes it look pretty back, but his head is following the puck out of the zone
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Della Rovere
is a douche
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by eyebleaf on
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this is true.
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I know
it makes me glad Quinn is no longer GM of the Leafs, ‘cause he’d probably love Sean Avery.
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I am not sure
He benched Della Rovere for a while last night after that hit on Markstrom.
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Quinn wouldn’t take Avery’s shit, he was the one who as able to handle sideshow Tucker during his wildest years.
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true
I was also thinking about that, but even if he was effective, Avery’s not the kind of player I’d like as a Leaf.
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No, maybe the Leafs back then when they had Roberts to bitchslap anyone who stepped out of line and they were pure grinders to the end.
Not these Leafs. this is a totally different team and we need a totally different player.
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exactly
but this is also a team that I don’t think Quinn would ever have built. I loved him when he was here, but it’s a bit easier to see his flaws from a distance. For example, cutting Kane originally and keeping Della Rovere. Kane is a killer player, and can be used in any situation… I felt bad for the guy who got injured, but was glad Kane was on the team.
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yeah, I can see where Quinn was coming from though. He had oodles of skill and roll players already, he probably wanted some gritt. As he has a love for it. So he was going for that. And I doublt DR would have gotten the ice time that he did in the situations he did if that kid who got hurt in the prelimes had stayed healthy. For the life of me I cant remember his name. He was a keeper.
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canada always builds theright team. not the most skilled. he needed some roll playing grinders that could take the hits to the other team.
i expect to see more teams follow this model come the next olympics.
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Dominic Moore for 2010!
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but star players
can do that too. Remember the world cup of hockey, when Thornton was the 3rd or 4th line center? He was killer in that role, too, more physical than usual, and shutting down anyone he faced. I think versatile forwards are more valuable than just gritty guys.
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true, but whose to say Kane had a better camp than DR?
you never know
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meh...
kane looked good. whoever he replaced must have looked better.
still, this WJHC tourney is one of the last chances kids get before the draft to show how they can handle big game pressure. It’s nice to see role players in that situation as well
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for sure. Kane stepped up and played amazingly well.
Every player on that team who wasn’t already drafted had their stock shoot up.
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I was just really impressed
with Kane, and pretty much never impressed with DR.
The kid Kane replaced was supposed to be spectacular, a power forward which I don’t think the team had after he went down.
Role players are fine, I guess… Corson did make Team Canada one year, didn’t he?
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yes he did.
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good piece on kilger from simmons...
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Simmons/2009/01/06/7932646-sun.html
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yeah
I saw that. But still no consensus on why he left. The choose family or hockey one makes sense, though. It would be hard to be married to a hockey player who was traded/put on waivers every few years.
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i like...
the 250 lb hermit kilger story….a big fat happy kilger in cornwall.
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That made me smile too. Big(ger) chops on his cheeks and pork chops in his belly.
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