Canadiens 4 Leafs 3 OT Final
by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:13 PM EDT
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Really deflated right now. Leafs outshoot Montreal 46 - 27 and lose 4-3. Beauchemin and Schenn looked bad on the first goal for Montreal, a power play tally early on in a double minor awarded to Komisarek for high sticking Gomez, but Beauchemin picked his play up considerably afterwards.
The real story of the night is that the PK is still atrocious, and Mike Komisarek took a ton of penalties for shoving players around the net that offset Montreal running Toskala all night.
None of the goals on Toskala were particularly horrible, the first one wasn't his fault at all; he got hung out to dry. The second goal he collapsed into the net while the puck was behind the net and never came out to square up. The third goal was a deflection that hit him in his glove, and on the fourth goal Toskala let a soft puck hit him and he pushed it out into the slot for Gorges to end the game. Not his worst game, but hardly a big statement after a quiet preseason. Toskala ends the night with an 0.851 SV% (compared to Price's .935) and a Leafs OT loss.
There are other things to cover, notably the Leafs being outhit tonight, but I'm pretty depressed by this result. Toronto starts the season 0-0-1 and will go to Washington to play the Caps next. Washington beat Boston 4-1 tonight.
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so
not quite as mad, think this is good…. no overconfidence, Komi will be calmer next game, and our PK will come together once the new players adjust.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
I’d give my middle nut for a Cup.
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by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have
a middle nut???
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you weren’t married, I’d invite you to investigate.
But I’m no Heatley.
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by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TMI
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh too little information…
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by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a serious nut amputee...
I actually had the same brand of cancer Kessel did. And as a man with only one nut to give, I’d give the one REMAINING nut for a cup. I dare any other fan anywhere to match said offer.
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by doggit on Oct 2, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I, uh, wow.
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gustavsson to the Rescue? plz?
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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sulking.
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by article1 on Oct 1, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I need
an XBOX
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NHL10 To The Rescue!
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going for Left4Dead. Zombies = Refs/Habs.
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be playin’ Bruins vs. Leafs, with Lucic kickin’ every one of their sorry Bleu, Blanc, et Rouge asses.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh crap, I meant Bruins vs. Habs. D’oh! :(
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 2, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t really fault Toskala on the first and 3rd goals but you can certainly blame him for the other two. He needs to learn proper positioning.
Boo hoo!
by sparrow13 on Oct 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there were
flashes there…. but he’s gotta improve.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long does he need to be outside the top 30 goaltenders for save percentage before we do something?
Since coming to Toronto he’s been at best mediocre and at worst he’s singlehandedly lost us games. I won’t say he was horrible tonight, but that was a very mediocre performance. Does mediocre keep Gustavsson on the bench?
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
the question is, how many games to Wilson and Burke give him before giving Gustavsson a try?
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was them, I’d get Gusto in next game against Ovi and the Caps. That should be a good test for him.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll say saturday against the caps. If he doesn’t have a sv% above .900 or lets in a soft goal he needs to get out. And honestly, he needs to play better, i’d give him three goals that were beyond HIS capability but the 2nd goal even a backup would have stopped if he put his stick down.
by LeafFan1989 on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahhahaha Ovechkin will feast on Toskala.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As sad as this sounds,
I honestly hope he does. I want to force Gusty to play, and if he can’t handle it; so be it. Otherwise, let him start.
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by doggit on Oct 2, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The third goal isn’t his fault but it hit him and turned his glove over. Ugh.
The second goal isn’t his fault either but the Habs couldn’t work that across the back of the net Toskala needs to come out more on that.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 4th?
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got to get his glove on that. Cammalleri doesn’t have a shot because Toskala keeps him outside, but then Cammalleri tries a little drop pass that Toskala sweeps into the slot.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
that sounds about right.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a stupid play.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s only a bad play because it went past all four leafs standing there! through beauch’s legs. just rotten luck.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if blake looks around for once
he cuts gorges off and he never gets a shot.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to work now to order around people to take my agression out, later peeps
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
G’night. I’ll be playin’ some NHL 10 later to take out my rage by picking fights with Cammaleri. MWAHAHAHAHA.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Later Jared, if you see a Hab fan beat him up!
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laterz
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by article1 on Oct 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bah
coulda been worse, I s’pose
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by Archimedies on Oct 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least
we get a charity point.
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Participation Ribbon Point
I hate it.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look guys, komi deserved that penalty and it was a stupid penalty on his part. he wouldn’t have gone to the bench with his head down if it hadn’t been a good call.
Toskala just isn’t there in those clutch moments; if the Monster isn’t good, then the season’s a failure. The Leafs looked like a bunch of amateurs out on the ice at times. Schenn is headed for sophomore slump. Slaberg looked out of his depth, let’s hope he improves.
We realy needed a quality top-line scorer tonight, one that can beat a decent goalie with skill and there wasn’t one available. Let’s hope Kessel fills that role.
The bright side:
a) there’s room for improvement; the defence can get better
b) leaf fan stuck in ottawa is right, we get a point, but it’s not charity, we earned it
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa I thought Stalberg looked great out there especially for his first NHL game
PP was also increadibly good looking btw
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stalberg was flying and creating chances. All of Komisarek’s penalties outside of the high stick were incredibly marginal. Gomez runs into Toskala full speed, Komisarek does some shoving and that’s matching? Bullshit.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
3 non-calls on Toskala getting run. Pathetic.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They always say goalie interference is something the refs crack down on, but they sure didn’t protect Tosk tonight. Fucking awful.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We actually got away with a lot of that goalie running....
Last year. As crappy as it was to watch tonite, we got those calls every time last year, I don’t wanna play with that karma ;P. However, we need to play a similar physical game. Komi doesn’t need to back off, we’ll get the benefit from better refereeing in the future. We DO need to work on the PK though, and I think as players gel, that will happen by itself.
BTW Stalberg for the Calder!
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by doggit on Oct 2, 2009 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crosschecking
call after the puck was LONG gone was a bad penalty. It was all emotion, and he’ll calm down, but Komisarek had a poor night overall.
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by Haeyena on Oct 2, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he deserved the highstick call and the cross check, yes, he even deserved one for the hit on Gionta (which he didnt get) but the last elbowing call was the definition of borderline,and the two match penalties were horse shit
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 2, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
failure???
yes, we needed Kessel tonight.
Stalberg looked nervous, he’ll adjust just fine.
Where did they look like amateurs?
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a) the penalty kill was terrible
b) for a bigger team than the Canadiens, their puck possession in their defensive end was apalling. Three icing in a row? Couldn’t they just get the fucking puck?
c) The shots they were firing; weak! Where was Beauchemin’s vaunted cannon from the point? It looked like every shot the Leafs took went through molasses, they were so slow
d) centre ice turnovers
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…Toskala totally isn’t there in those clutch moments….like when he robbed Gionta
by Theodles on Oct 1, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best off season acquisition?
Lee Stempniak? He was a different player from the Lee Stempniak we had last year.
Komi really needs to not take stupid penalties. Liked the fight though.
by Leaf in Habland on Oct 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree that the White Ninja played awesome. needed some puck luck though.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disappointing to say the least
It seems like what Burke touted as our strengths was completely absent today. 3 of our top 4 defencemen were a letdown today. Beauchemin and Schenn didn’t show much chemistry and were often out of position in the first half of the game. Komisarek offset any contribution he made with stupid penalty after stupid penalty. Montreal’s forecheck gave us fits all night long and they were the team that was finishing their checks.
Our forwards played well. I was pleasantly surprised by their relentlessnes and speed. But it didn’t matter because what we expected to lean on was completely absent.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That sounds a lot more pessimistic than I intended it to. I’m disappointed, but not overturning cars and looting shops.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we picked up Komisarek as a premiere shutdown d-man to anchor our penalty kill.
Beauchemin looked very rough around the edges the first half of the game but QBed the play very well in the offensive zone and controlled play for long stretches at the end.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Schenn play at all in the last period?
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the 3rd
or OT?
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played in OT, and was on the ice when Cammallamameri got the GWG with Gorge.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schenn was out in OT.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right but if you noticed White was paired with Beauch for a good portion of the third.
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
White looked shaky as well. Kaberle was by far our best d-man tonight. As far as Schenn and Beauch, they were both off and Komi was off as in not on the ice because he was in the box, XLB played the pine most of the night.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK post game on now
that’s better.
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I should find a gif to convey my emotions. Instead I’m going bash my brains out with homework and article writing.
It’s been real.
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by wrap around curl on Oct 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
G’night.
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Night wrap.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Weekes
weird hearing him on TV.
I love these Flames uniforms.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TOTALLY AGREE.
They are spectacular.
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by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are oddly a calming experience.
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They should keep these, their current unis suck.
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Son of Bitch Stupid friggin game! Some random thoughts
- Screw the ref on the last penalty to Komi, Seriously elbowing? He pushed him into the friggin boards!
- White looked awful a couple giveaways and blind passes.
- Top line of Blake, Stajan and Stalberg was awesome
- Toskala wasn’t completely horrible, but he wasn’t good either. All in all I was not impressed
So pissed off should of won this one by a mile
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Toskala put up an .850 across from Price’s .935. You’re not going to win a lot of games when that happens. Toronto outshot Montreal almost 2 to 1 and leaves with a single point because of goaltending.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not gonna argue with you, but Beauchemin looked pretty poor at some points tonight too.
Just angry about the entire friggin game, I am not looking forward to work tomorrow
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked poor the first half of the game and started to get more comfortable as things went on.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scoring chances v. Scoring Chances
The Leafs may have outshot the habs nearly 2:1, but I’d love to know how the scoring chances compare.
I don’t recall Price making any huge game changing saves. Would need to watch the game again, but it seemed many of the Leaf shots were from the perimeter or garbage in tight.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt the Habs shots were higher quality but Toronto did a good job blocking outside shots.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares
the refs were pretty vigilant in ensuring Toskala would be run freely, and should the Leafs attempt to stop the Habs from running them, penalties would be called.
The d did no favors for Toskala. Bitch all you want about his SV%, but if they were getting high quality after high quality scoring chance, while the Leafs happily batted the puck in from the blue line, then no shit he’s gonna have a higher SV%.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 2, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the refs were pretty vigilant in ensuring Toskala would be run freely, and should the Leafs attempt to stop the Habs from running them, penalties would be called.
This is true.
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the shots were very weak, many without traffic.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
price had an excellent game
it all came down to turning the puck over in the neutral zone in the last 5 imins which let to a penalty and cost us the game.
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Price
was hardly tested, despite the shot count.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
I really don’t agree with that statement.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would.
He probably had to make fewer big saves than Toskala throughout the game. We shot from the outside all night.
by Fleet Fox on Oct 1, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's
what I said… Wilson said he was excellent.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah, sorry.
Reply fail. But yeah, I didn’t think Carey Price looked that great.
by Fleet Fox on Oct 1, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love
how the Yahoo fantashy hockey is live.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never used to be. the Stattracker used to be free for 2 weeks and then you had to pay 9.95….. this time it seems they made it free…. about time since they were the only ones that were charging.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was live last year too
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I had a pool in there and dont remember that.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson
we counted 5 times they ran our goalie and only got one penalty
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Preach it Wilson. Refs gotta smarten up.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luongo
just got scored on.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
Giordano
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice move in from the point too.
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Price gave the habs a chance to win and they did while toskala tried his best to demoralize the team. The refs are horrendous, the habs had to do something obvious to get called while the leafs touched their dwarfs and got sent off. F’in refs, hatre them all.
by LeafFan1989 on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Toskala didn’t demoralize the team. He played OK, but certainly didn’t try to steal the game.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did try to give it away.
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by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say that. He was average. He made some good saves but at least one goal he should have had. You can’t point the finger at him and only him as why the Leafs lost.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll point the finger and bite my thumb at whomever I please.
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by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s fine, I just don’t think Toskala’s the scapegoat here. He has to play better though no doubt. Believe me if Toskala sucks ass I’ll be right there pointing with you.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I don’t think he was the sole reason, but I also don’t think that was NHL caliber goaltending from him.
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get over the reffing.
If you want to build a team around Burke’s much used adverbs, your’re not going to have a team that gets breaks from the officials.
The price of truculenceTM is a steallar PK. WIthout a PK, there’s going to be a lot of games like tonight.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. The calls were marginal but they still need to be killed. We’re not going anywhere in the playoffs without a solid PK so
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That first PP goal for the Habs was BRUTAL by Francois, made Schenny look bad.
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of truculence if we are so truculent how come the smurf brigade was running our goalie at will?
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
One of those guys needed to get killed and then Rosehill had to be sent out there to put Price through the end boards.
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beauchemin looked brutal
He’s my favorite Leaf but I have to be fair. He was in really bad form tonight but I know he’ll bounce back on Saturday.
by RobOuttaSoCal on Oct 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilson
Vesa was fine couldn’t fault him on the goals.
STalberg was our best forward made smart decisions ith the puck.
Grabbo had a great game
Our forwards did a great job.
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
POSITIVES!
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know who DIDN'T look bad?
MATT STAJAN!
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by Archimedies on Oct 1, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
this
is true.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reluctantly I will agree on that. Stajan is auditioning for a spot on the Kessel line.
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Matty S looked pretty good. That was a really nice tip-in.
by Fleet Fox on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Exelby was really bad tonight.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree. He went out of his way to get a big hit and got way out of position.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the first period the only time Montreal gained our zone was when White-Exelby were out there.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno one of the MTL players came across the line, looked up saw XLB and bailed
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So did Beauchemin, he also pinched twice and got caught badly.
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is what he does
that is so completely the book on exelby. I have a friend who keeps an eye on the Thrashers (!) and their fans (!) called him “3-on-1”
he lines up the big open ice hit and misses. Out of position, 2 on 1 the other way. We need to get used to that. But every once in a while he will connect.
by pevans on Oct 1, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think xlb played exactly like I expected – crazy and reckless
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he did play good D and got control of the puck, he rarely made the correct pass to maintain possession.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll venture a cross-sports analogy here...
I watched Toskala today like I followed Eli Manning early in his career: constantly afraid he was going to make a mistake. He didn’t play terrible, but his poor rebound control and the soft goal he did let in didn’t inspire anymore confidence in me. I’m still heading into this season believing that our defensemen have to really perform for him to have a bounceback season.
I’ve been a Leafs fan since early 90’s, so the last few years have been a weird experience for me. I’m used to Potvin, Joseph, and Belfour. Raycroft and Toskala have been a rude awakening.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
totally ready
To fight Habs fans right now. This game was fuckin bullshit. Seriously fuck that. Runnin Vesa all night, elbowing on Komi? Gimme a break. This is fuckin crap. Also Vesa is not at fault for this loss. Why did I drive? I need another beer. Fuck.
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by leafer1984 on Oct 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I have to go out and face the entire city tomorrow. Funny my buddy told me he was going to punch me tomorrow when the Leafs were up, but after the Habs won, he said he would give me a hug. Habs fans….gaaah!
by Leaf in Habland on Oct 1, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying hard to decompress and get this out of my system. Damn this is hard.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where’s all the Kaberle love??? Great heads up play on the first goal and beautiful cross ice pass on the third.
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im with you there. I thought Kabs looked awesome tonight.
That slap pass to Stajan for the tip in was pure friggin gold
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played great all night, IMO
I got tired of hearing “puck-moving defenseman” this summer, but the importance of his skillset cannot be understated.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Kabby was in top form tonight. Looked great.
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it too early to start wishing for Jeff Finger to return?
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is never too early to hope for the Finger.
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know what the worst part is, Habs fans bragging about how skill beats size. The leafs should have won that game. the habs had goaltending and the refs on their side
by LeafFan1989 on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait for Les Hobbitants to fall back to earth next game. Then they’ll be like “ZOMG TEH SKIEZ IS FALLING!”
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what we really need? An encouraging word from Viktor Stalberg.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
Go Jays?
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tank nation isn’t a luxury we can afford anymore, as Burke traded away our 1st round picks for the next two fucking years!
Dammit I’m pissed off. I’m pissed at Toskala, because his “injury” is clearly in his prefrontal cortex and not in his groin; I’m pissed at Beauchemin for being worse than McCabe at the point and worse than McCabe on defence (incidentally, McCabe is captain of the Panthers). I’m pissed at Komi for taking that penalty like an idiot with 2 minutes left.
And I’m pissed at the NHL because my Leafs TV money doesn’t go to buying a championship team, but instead goes to funding the Coyotes losses.
This is going to be a stressful season.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, no “Save Us Taylor Hall” this year. :(
At least it’ll be “Save Us Kessel” instead. :)
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok 1 Beauchemin is not worse then McCabe on D Maybe on the point but even that is close.
That did not look like a penalty on Komi he pushed him into the friggin boards and it was elbowing?
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Habs clearly had the refs as their seventh man.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Habs clearly had the refs as their seventh man.
Habs: 2 for 4 on the PP
Leafs: 2 for 3 on the PP
That sure is some penalty differential.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was referring to what wasn’t called….namely the Habs constant running of the Vesa
by Theodles on Oct 1, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep the 1 penalty difference coming at the end with the penalty on Komi really hurt, And that is the one I was really pissed about
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to make a macro of this:
The price of Truculence® is a steallar PK. If the team doesn’t have a great PK, they’re going to lose more games than they win.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
I need to copy paste that somewhere easily accessible
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep it next to the Oh Snap! gif
Btw, was at the Morgan libary today and thought of you. It’s my third or fourth visit and I really love Renzo Piano’s transformation. Such a great space.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Renzo Piano is my favourite practicing architect. The California Academy of Sciences was spectacular.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have plaster of paris models on display for the original architects (1907?) it’s very cool to see these three and four foot long facades in the new(ish) lobby.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where is the Morgan library?
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madison and 37th. Morgan’s house faced 37th and his library faced 36th. Piano built a three story atrium that joined the two buldings.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
I need to go back to NYC. There’s still so much to see.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A really cool walk-through is here: http://www.themorgan.org/about/campus.asp
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks!!
I seriously need more vacation time… so many buildings to see, so few weeks off a year
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new(ish) wing of the Met is also stunning.
http://www.metmuseum.org/explore/Greek/Greek1.htm
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't
been to the met yet, I’ve been to New York 3 times. Once with my parents, who wouldn’t let me go… the next time it was being renovated, and the last time wasn’t long after that so it had finished renos but not opened on time.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like me!
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I read that earlier thanks for the repeat.
Point still stands that I don’t think it was a penalty and that penalty lead to a goal
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna be a lot of that this season. If you build a team on toughness, and spend months talking up pugnacity, odds are you won’t get the calls.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
that we will all need to keep in mind
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can keep that in mind, but that doesn’t mean Im just gonna sit back and accept when a Ref makes a bad call. I am still gonna be pissed about it
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully the refs pick up on that negative energy and the calls start to go the Leafs way.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should be apathetic to the calls then?
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe there are more choices than being pissed or being apathetic.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Alright I don’t see it, You can be Content or not content or indfferent to a sitaution I am not sure there is another reaction to it.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s hockey. Blown calls are part of a game. Over the course of the season it will more than likely even out.
The Leafs didn’t lose because of the refs tonight. They lost because they blew their first PK, played on the perimeter in the Habs zone and totally broke down with about 20 seconds to go.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright /deep breathe
This conversation got way more confrontational then I meant it to so firstly sorry.
And secondly I do agree that the Leafs lost not because of the refs but exactly the reasons you outlined.
But even though it is hockey I will get angry about calls that directly lead to goals against. Just the same as when I get angry in MLB when Umps blow calls that lead to runs against. I don’t think I can or want to change that.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kim Jorn turned to me about 2 minutes into the game and said the same thing.
The Leafs are not making any friends so they can’t expect any help. If the goalie is getting run then the leafs aren’t going to get the call.
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing you all got used to saying “go flyers” around here this summer.
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OH LOOK AT THE FUNNY MAN
GO LEAFS!
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You liked that one, then?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 2, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should fix the spelling of “stellar” if you’re going to post that a lot.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if it was an homage to Jared?
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. I have no problem bitching at the refs when they suck, but you can’t change their minds, you have to deal with what they call. The PK has to step it up this year, that simple.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chill
You probably won’t want to hear this but it’s not all doom and gloom. After a bad start Beauchemin looked really good. Komi was tough, other than the high stick he was the victim of bad reffing.
The play of Toskala (and a shaky PK) is concerning, I grant you that.
Still it’s not time to panic… yet.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the case of Toskala = Time to panic. Time to hope that Gustavsson is the real deal.
And also, we should call-up Joey MacDonald, have him serve as Gusto’s back-up if he steals the number-one goalie from Vesa.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
this game doesn’t cause panic. It causes concern, but he deserves another shot. If he costs us a game, he’s out ASAP.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, I’d want Joe-Mac to be in the goalie front. He looked solid in the game(s) he played in the preseason.
And also, get the Monster in the effin’ net on Saturday. Seriously.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
won’t happen. You need to be patient on Gustavsson.. his time will come.
I did like what I saw from Joey Mac, I do think he’ll end up on the big club this season.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Toskala tanks it this year, replace him with Joe-Mac.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toskala was 31st in the league in save percentage in 2008.
Toskala was 43rd in the league in save percentage in 2009.
Toskala has an .851 save percentage after tonight. He’s 32. He just had hip and groin surgery. He’s not going to magically “rebound” and even if he did his ceiling is probably somewhere around 35th in the league.
This isn’t entirely Toskala’s fault, but it’s obvious that he has to go.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize that looking at Toskala’s save percentage on a per game basis is…well…idiotic…right. :P
So who cares if he’s .851 after tonight. It’s meaningless.
by Theodles on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a pretty fucking terrible argument to make with the evidence building against Toskala. Small sample size? Toskala has been shit for two years and is starting his third.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was bad last year…and injured.
He wasn’t shit the year before.
by Theodles on Oct 1, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you read? He was 31st in the league in save percentage in 2008. That’s pretty shit.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
31st in and of itself means nothing
a) The difference between the numbers is so small. While technically a starting goalie with a saver percentage .002 points higher than another goalie is better…at 27 shots per game and 50 games, they only let in 2.7 goals more over those 50 games. At .005, 6.75 goals more over 50 games.
b) Save percentages do vary from year to year based on factors including goalie performance as well as defence. They won’t vary much based on defence alone. If the Leafs defence is actually much improved this year as everyone seems to think and they can cut down on some of the good scoring opportunities they gave up last year, it could bump up a goalie’s sv% a very small amount.
So, throw that all together, assume a healthy Toskala = a return to two year ago and that an improved defence will bump up his numbers slightly, and it’s well within the realm of possibility for Toskala to hit .910.
Which still isn’t stellar. But it’s adequate and I’ll take it if it means not throwing Gustavsson into the fire.
Give him some more time. If he’s playing poorly, we should find out relatively quickly and be able to act.
Tonight, he did not play poorly though, despite an .851%.
by Theodles on Oct 2, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
i think I love you…
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by blurr1974 on Oct 2, 2009 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S.
.904 is by no means shit. It’s not great, but it’s not shit either.
by Theodles on Oct 2, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Literally 30 goalies had better than a .904 every year since the lockout.
That would make Toskala among the worst starting goalies in the league.
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
side point
Kipprusoff had the 32nd save % last year with that same .904. Is he one of the worst starting goalies in the league?
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by Karina on Oct 2, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 3, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in 2008 he had similar numbers to ryan milelr and cam ward, are they shit?
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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 2, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were that year.
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys check it out Toskala almost compared to these guys who had an off year that must mean he’s pretty good.
Last year Toskala was better than Chris Osgood and Marty Turco he should be nominated for the Vezina!
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
good goalies can have bad years, but as long as its an anomaly, they are still good goalies.
if sub par numbers start to be the reg, the goalie is now sub par.
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 2, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much hate. You need to listen to Seventy Time Seven – Brand New. Some of the harshest lyrics ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvVCq3DiAU8
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that what you call a getaway?
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by Archimedies on Oct 1, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well tell me what you got away with
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck me
Didn’t I write like a 8000 word post on why we should either be worried about Toskala or worried about our love of goaltending mediocrity?!
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do want to see Monster play, I want to know what we have there.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Brady’s Twitter:
@Leafer1984 Wake up. OT goal woefully out of position & kicked out fat r-bound 2 mid of slot. No one’s “hating”. He isn’t good enough.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John Freaking Mitchell was good tonight
still stick handling like crazy in the opponents zone and no one can take it from him. If only we had some high scoring winger to pair him with…. maybe someone who is injured but is a good goal scorer hmm………
by The Meatriarchy on Oct 1, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eh
don’t see that happening… BTW, Mitchell was playing wing tonight.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah I’m pretty sure he played centre. If not the whole game, then a few shifts at least.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he played
with wallin….
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember one of the announcers saying he had won another face-off. Maybe the PK?
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth
the Habs showed some holes tonight. Their bottom 2 defensive pairings looked slow and were routinely beaten to the puck by our forecheckers. They didn’t create many scoring chances until they could bring in a well-rested top line. And Jacques Martin made some poorly timed line chances/substitutions.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And yet the Leafs spent time shooting from outside.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
coughJASONBLAKEcough
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
I was disappointed in our shot choice. Some of it I can excuse (Stalberg being a rookie, not wanting to take risks) but it was still sad.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad I wasn’t the only person who notices this. A lot of our forwards were holding the puck way too long, IMO. It’s like they were afraid to take the first shot they saw, but sometimes that first shot was a great opportunity. I hated seeing them make a move that just placed another D-men between them and the goal.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah whoever called him out on not driving to the net was spot on.
Getting saltier by the post.
by ohshrit on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
3-0 Flames. Luongo’s picking up right where he left off (haha Chemmy)
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least they have Raycroft.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
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Doubly rec
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luongo
Looks like he’s picked up where he left off last season.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way, the Wings started off with a loss and ended up in the Cup Finals. The Pens were on the verge of missing the playoffs last season (with some help from us), and they ended up winning some silver mug or something like that.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True
But we’re not the Wings or the Penguins lmao
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…
Also, get Kulemin and Tlusty in there, and give Tlusty some minutes. At least he has talent.
Wallin should be sent back to whatever the Swedes call hell. He sucks. That last shot on Price was worthless. He didn’t even try to go blocker side; he just shot it right at him. He might as well have skated over and handed the puck to him like an easter basket.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you kidding?
Wallin wasn’t brought here to score – he was brought to provide some solid defense up front. He didn’t do so hot on the PK – though no goals can be faulted to him – but he had some awesome defensive plays tonight.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was also responsible for two realy crappy offsides, if i counted right.
I don’t care if he was brought to score or not, a professional NHL player should at least get a good shot off on Goal, not on Carey-Price-Chest.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those were Ponikarovsky.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Wallin’s a shut-down player, like a Rob Niedermayer or Sami Pahlsson. If people expected him to score they weren’t paying attention to his true skill set.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still expect a decent shot on net when you have the chance. he had all the time in the world to line up and aim that puck, a decent angle, and a clear line to the goal. If you can’t shoot within a 1-foot margin from 15 feet out, you don’t deserve to be in the NHL.
and if we are to follow Burke’s model, then Wallin doesn’t fit as a defensive 3rd liner; we need someone bigger and less European. i.e. belligerent
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
seriously… Burker’s 3rd line center with the cup win: Sammy Pahlsson.
Small and European.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And less European? Wow Come on, Burke likes guys that fill a specific role or specific need that he has. Wallin fits a 3rd line defensive first forward with some ability in the faceoff circle
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Wallin. He made some nice defensive plays and pushed the puck up well. Doesn’t look like much of a finisher though, I’ll agree with that.
by Chutney on Oct 1, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, you never know. ;)
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leafs 4th line
Played just over 8 minutes – Combined!
Orr was on the ice 1.28 according to Yahoo
by The Big M on Oct 1, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Ron Wilson’s toughness doesn’t play…
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So F-bomb.... bombed?
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by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no
he had a rough star, but then really turned it up
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played a pretty mean PP
Gotta give him that.
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else disappointed in OLAS?
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not disappointed, but angry, but not at Luke, at the Habs.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a bit
he looked young
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely.
I was far more disappointed with Schenn than Toskala tonight! He’s been getting caught flat-footed on a consistent basis lately; I saw it happy multiple times in the pre-season, and I hate to think of it becoming a trend. He’s not nearly fast enough to catch a Cammaleri or Gionta after he’s caught out of position or going the wrong way.
by Fleet Fox on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get the whole “managing his ice time” thing. Hows this going to help his development? I thought the only time he got caught was the winning goal. However everyone on the ice at that time played a part in letting Habby mcHab player get the goal. Overall the only impressive d-man was Kabby tonight.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson didn’t want him to have to play so much time against the best players last year but he had to because he had no other options.
This year he likely wants to try to get him out in more favourable conditions.
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t get how this helps in development. I mean if he wants him to develop more offensively, why isn’t he on the 2nd PP unit at least?
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I would have rather seen Schenn on the PP than Komo
by masterkembo on Oct 2, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schenn was playing the left side for the first time in a real NHL game. Not that worried about him.
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching the Flames play in their retro thirds is an anti-depressant.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many blown third period leads last year leading to losses? Eight?
Good news! We’re on pace for 82 this year.
by NWOntario on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Game one and fans are ready to throw how many guys under the bus? This is going to be a long year.
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so true
I’m trying to fight back the negative hoardes, but it’s difficult.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I’m not really being all that negative against the Leafs (except for Toskala). I’m just mad about this loss where the Habbits got lucky.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh hi there.
You must be new. These are Leafs fans.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LONG LONG YEAR
The defence is obviously still looking to find chemistry. It’ll come.
Also, the defence won’t be including Exelby for long.
Finally, the PK has to be better. You can’t let a guy plant himself in the middle of the box and then deflect a shot.
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on all especially the Exelby front. I have a feeling our D will be “Fingered” soon enough.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson Post
- Defense struggled at times
- Forwards did a great job on the forecheck
- Price had an excellent game
- It all came down to turning it over in the neutral zone with 5 minutes to go
- On both PK’s we won the faceoff. Those are huge mistakes.
- We counted 5 times they ran our goalies and only one time they got a penalty. Once Mike was there and made a guy pay the price, we support that 100% We were partly responsible but you have to call that. Mike answered the bell, but we want all our defensemen to respond like that.
- I was very happy with Komisarek’s play. Setting the tone for the season.
- Vesa was fine, couldn’t do much on any of those goals.
- Stajan had a really good game, Stalberg is our best forward, consistently made something happen. Grabbo had a great game, doing little things.
That is all.
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by Archimedies on Oct 1, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want an encouraging word from Viktor Stalberg, DAMMIT!
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same. We need some wise words from Stalberg, in this time of early crisis.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's game 1
how can there be a crisis???
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor choice of words by me....D'OH!
Still, we need some words from Stalberg, pronto.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
I’m glad he’s happy with Komi’s play. I wasn’t sure if he’d be mad at the penalties or not.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Komi only put us in short-handed positions twice and one of them was absolved by Wilson.
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
it felt like a lot more than twice
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s bound to happen when you chalk up 15 PIM
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was very happy with Komisarek’s play. Setting the tone for the season.
The only dumb penalty Komisarek took was the high stick which was entirely accidental. Bad luck.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep,
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robyn Regehr
too ugly to be a Leaf.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d want Regehr as a Leaf, even if he was damn ugly.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Even if?” He’s hideous! (And really good.)
by NWOntario on Oct 1, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of his non-beauty. I still want Regehr here right now.
(see what I did with “Regehr” and “Here”?) ;)
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda flowed together into one word. Like Samuel L. Jackson. I just end up saying Samuell Jackson. Like a really long ‘L’.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His ugliness is a testament to his truculent style of play.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
this 2012 preview is ruining the entire movie for me.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not seeing it. The bus ads I keep seeing for it are angering me.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks terrible
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by article1 on Oct 1, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Sakic's # retired
man, I canNOT wait for the Sundin ceremony.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully by that time, Schenner will be captain of the Leafs.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that’s going to happen as soon as everyone seems to think….
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully by that time Schenner will be locking games down again
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And punching Montreal Canadiens in the face. Or Tyler Kennedy.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if Tyler Kennedy is then a Hab???
:O
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh my
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll take his sorry ass down twice as hard. One for being a Hab, and one half for just being plain ’ol Tyler Kennedy.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luke "Lock(andpunch)Down" Schen
Yaaarly
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Gorges has played 247 NHL games.
He scored 4% of his total points tonight.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And evidently, no-one outside of Montreal cares about this guy.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes me want to shoot myself.
Or Toskala.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t try to use Toskala as a human shield. Chances are the bullet misses and hits whatever is behind him.
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by SkinnyFish on Oct 1, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to like him. When he was a shark.
Now I hate him.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOOO
Flashforward!!! Leaving NHL game for this now.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Taped it. Can’t wait for final season of Lost in 2010.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the Leafs will finish this season 81-1? I can’t wait for Halloween for the next game against the Habs. So happy the season has started. Go Leafs!!!!!!
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is painfully optimistic xD
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not at all.
“Leafs will finish 65-17” is painfully optimistic.
This is comically optimistic.
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t that the motto of Leaf’s Nation?
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Oct 1, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
no, judging by this thread, most are painfully pessimistic.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's bipolar
Change one bounce in this game, and this entire threat would be triumphant pronouncements about how the NHL better watch out, it’s new lords and masters are here.
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so true
Leafs nation needs some prozac
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lithium :)
prozac is for depression :)
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lolthe principle holds
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh. Only thing I’m upset about is Toskala. The other things that went wrong for us need time to get better.
Toskala’s had two years.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
I totally get it. I just don’t think Wilson agrees with you, although if it takes more than a month for him to work this out and Gustavsson isn’t starting and Toskala still sucks, I will be irate.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A month?
Work what out? I’m seriously amazed that you think Toskala needs to work something out. He has never been a good goale in Toronto by any reasonable standard.
He has nothing impressive to bounce back to. He’s 32 he won’t magically get better.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh
I don’t know if Toskala can get better. I don’t think he is the goalie of our future anyways, and question the fact that he’s being given this chance despite not deserving it.
But I’m not the coach, and Wilson is obviously dedicated to him, so I’m trying to temper my response.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one thing I really hate about Toskala is the fact that he can’t make that one save thet can turn the game around. Cujo was always good for that game changer where he bailed them out. The only good thing Toskala is for is Kicking his team in the nuts as far as agame saver goes.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With 40+ years without a Cup and not a playoff appearance since before the lockout,
can you really blame us?
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it
but the only way to survive is to stay balanced.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point of sports isn't to survive
It’s to enjoy the roller coaster.
If we just wanted to survive we’d be AlMo and say “meh, it’s a children’s game, whutever.”
by Wan Ihite on Oct 1, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Painfully Pessimistic Purveyors
WE. ARE. PPP.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, agreed. oh man…. and the leafs are playing some good teams this month too. Washinton’s on Saturday; that’s gonna be fun. Uyy….
I’ll consider it extremely lucky if we take .500 this October.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s if Toskala starts most (if not all) of the games this month. If Gusto gets some action in, this might not be a bad of a month for us.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to give Gustavsson a couple of starts
probably as early as Saturday, so we can see where we stand. I want to see a full NHL game out of that guy, and see how he handles it. There were definetely a couple of moments in tonight’s game where his superior rebound control and size would have saved a goal or two.
Wilson has some work to do with the defence. They need to shape up.
Also, work on offense. I like the way the Habs were passing the puck on the power play, where was that on the Leafs side tonight? Everything looked so damn clumsy out there. It needs to be fixed.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our PP was actually pretty good. We went 2 for 3 on it. I’d take that any day of the week.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t pretty.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have 2 for 3 and ugly than 0 for 3 and pretty.
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, work on offense. I like the way the Habs were passing the puck on the power play, where was that on the Leafs side tonight? Everything looked so damn clumsy out there. It needs to be fixed.
Leafs were 2 for 3 on the PP. You expected 3 for 3?
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by mf37 on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, i should have worded myself better. it’s not about the powerplay by itself, it was the puck posession skill in the offensive end, both at even strength and on the power play.
the leafs didn’t get set up really well or get very good cycling going. their passing seemed to be a bit off.
like I said earlier, things just looked clumsy out there overall.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Leafs offensive zone presence was pretty good overall… it seemed to drop off in the end of the game but they were all over Montreal for most of it.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the D just needs to be more cohesive. Give them time. They’ll come around.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this was the story of the night and it’s just a matter of time before they start to gel.
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. Let Schenn and Beauchemin play together more. Let’s see the PK when Komisarek is actually on it instead of in the box.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shouldn’t Kaberle and Beauchemin be playing together?
Why was Schenn playing with him?
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron wilson's defense
Kaberle-Komisarek
Beauchemin-Schenn
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the whole preseason, everyone was saying that a setup QB like Kaberle needed a guy like Beauchemin to take the shots for him, sort of like he used to have with McCabe when McCabe was scoring in the opponents net.
maybe I’m missing something here, but it makes more sense to pair Schenn and Komisarek together as the two shut down defencemen, and Kaberle and Beauchemin for offensive stuff.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the PP
Beauchemin was playing with him.
5 on 5, it was Komisarek.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, that makes a bit more sense.
that explain the lack of good set-up play on 5 on 5 this game. The defensive pairings were not set up for it; at 5 on 5 they are “half-defence, half offense”.
by Peter de Chatham on Oct 1, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beauchemin is paired with Kabby on the powerplay
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kabbie gets more room to use his offensive skills with Komi moving stuff on the ice.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a little observation but whenever Komi wasn’t in the box the PK was pretty solid…
Catch 22?
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
um.
Komi was in the box when the tying goal was scored.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m saying that when wasn’t in the box the PK was 100%
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well no
but still, we’re not gonna have a 100% PK. The unit does need tome time to gel, too.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*when he
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by Megha on Oct 1, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I hate whwn he put White out instead of Schenn. It sucks for Beauch cause he has to get used to 2 different d partners and it sucks for Schenn cause he isn’t getting minutes he should be getting and is being thrown out into pressure situations after riding pine for big lumps of time. Nothing against White (who was pretty bad defensively tonight) but keep the pairs together so they can adjust to each other.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gustavsson isn’t starting on Saturday against Ovechkin and the Capitals.
Ummm, the Leafs PP went 2-for-3 so it looked pretty good.
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by PPP on Oct 2, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toskala will start…… but will he finish????
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it makes anyone feel better
the Avs are currently beating the sharks…
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doin' it for Super Joe
How’s Duchene doing? (If he’s playing)
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dunno
not watching the game, it’s only on Versus. According to NHL.com he’s -1.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to me NHL, your broadcast partner is run by jerks.
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by Travis Hair on Oct 1, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got a point.
Stajan scored two.
We broke Markov.
I claim moral victory.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Oct 1, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the way you think.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did miss seeing the game though
due to having a date. Tough to call that one.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Oct 1, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
a questionable one
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends
on how hot the date was.
I would personally choke LS to death to re-do a first date with my wife.
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it went that bad?
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zing!
you know what I meant.
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 1, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then again if it wasn’t a first date…..it’s a questionable call.
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I’m going to miss a Leaf game for a date, she better put out.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I’ve got APUSH notes I should’ve started like 5 hours ago. I’m out guys. Until I get bored and log back on in 15 mins.
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I should be goin'....
I’ve got some important assignments to finish. G’night y’all.
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by Kavel Pubina on Oct 1, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Night all. Our wait for a Leafs win continues.
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by Chemmy on Oct 1, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bye Chemmy
I’m sure with time Wilson will realize you’re right and give up on Toskala too.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Night everyone.
Keep the faith!
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by stucky on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it Helps...
San Jose is losing 5-2, and Dany Heatley is a minus 3
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by Archimedies on Oct 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BAHAHAHAHA
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
nice
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
Marleau has 2 goals.
Clearly, Marleau is the problem in San Jose… (rolls eyes)
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he won’t be next year when he hits UFA status.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im torn on that one. I want the Sens fans to really hurt so I want Cheechoo and Michalak to fail completely and Heatley to light it up….. then again it is Heatley and I want him to fail….
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want both parties to fail miserably.
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by Archimedies on Oct 1, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good to me
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I’m out. Hubby’s got food finally.
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by Karina on Oct 1, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Peace brobama
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have a good one.
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by JohnnyG on Oct 1, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it Mr. Greek by any chance?
I freaking miss that place. :’(
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by Blinky on Oct 1, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still sulking.
Night all.
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by article1 on Oct 2, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone happen to catch the number of Chins Spacek had? I counted four. Thats Wellwoodian.
by 6rick6 on Oct 2, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by nikolaou on Oct 2, 2009 8:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coming
I forgot that Blurr is on vacation!
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weres blurr at?
vacation wise i mean
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by nikolaou on Oct 2, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blaaaarg
cant sleep, exhausted
want blood
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 2, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m actually surprised at how little these teams have fundamentally changed.
Montreal will continue to live and die on the PP, and the calbire of goaltending they receive.
Toronto will continue to live and die on their defensive zone coverage.
Both will be in a dog-fight to make the playoffs.
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by clrkaitken on Oct 2, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what i noticed was that toronto did not seem overly tough compared to montreal.
but they definately outplayed them i though
if both teams had toskala in net the leafs would have won without a doubt.
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by nikolaou on Oct 2, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
classic four clowns watch the puck go in the net.(four!!!!) truculence my ass. i dont ever want to hear that shit term again
by bringbackbower on Oct 2, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one thing is obvious to me, it might have been the cameras, but compared to the flames-canucks game, we looked like some shit off the slush pile of dads bad pond, and montreal was complicit. ball hockey bantam A shit. anyway leafs forever, we have a long long way to go …….
by bringbackbower on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we have a long long way to go
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by Chemmy on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everybody has a weak sister, and they beat us
by bringbackbower on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude, first game of the season, bad breaks, brand new defensive pairings with the help of some heroic refing
it doesn’t mean anything
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 2, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are 81 games to go. Perspective people, perspective.
Im more worried about how we do against the Phillys, Pitts, Washingtons and Bostons than montreal… i know we’ll get this one back against the habs next time, its the elite teams that will be the real test.
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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 2, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just some thoughts on the game
1. this has been beaten to death already, but komi tried too hard. this seems to be a short-term problem so no real remedy needed.
2. beauchemin was very slow in picking up his man. again, a beginning-of-season issue, hopefully will wrinkle itself out sooner rather than later. or even, later rather than never. but saturday would be best time.
3. schenn was expecting a pass for the second goal and he committed to the side too early. maybe he was supposed to, but in my humble opinion, he left the front of the net open before the guy behind the net (GBTN) decided on his course of action. once this occured, the GBTN easily had a pass in front and schenn was left defending the pass that never came. it was also beauchemin’s fault in terms of marking the scoring guy, so not all the blame falls on luke. again, this is something that will probably fix itself as schenn is young and will improve with experience. this is just one of the little things that is picked up over time, rather than learnt, and shows an advantage of veterans over rookies.
4. just a note, stajan’s first goal was amazing and as the CBC guy said, it was an advantage of chemistry. stajan deftly moved to the side of the net, and since the defender couldnt see behind him, kaberle had an open lane to stajan. rather than using a pass, which might have been intercepted since stajan was not that far away from the defender, or could have allowed price the time to switch positioning to an optimal angle to make the save, kaberle played a slap-pass that stajan just had to get a stick on, and it easily beat price. beautiful goal, and hopefully all our forwards make smart plays like that throughout the season
5. the blake stajan stalberg line was incredibly energetic and effective. stempniak had a great game. poni scored. overall, forwards played really well, and the defence should naturally improve to the point that if the forwards continue at this level, the same game we played yesterday would then be a win.
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