The Great Train Wreck of 1990-91
The 1990 home opener. Fitting that it was against Quebec.
I thought it might be worthwhile to depart from the normal LotD formula to talk about a particular Leaf team for today. As the current losing streak grows, comparisons to the train wreck of 1990-91 are becoming more frequent and louder and I thought it might be useful to look at that team a bit - if nothing else, it will allow the comparsions to be a little better understood.
The thing I'm watching this year is not whether the Leafs fall on their collective faces but what Brian Burke will do about it if it happens. The problems with the Leafs of 1990-91 didn't come from the fact that they almost traded away Eric Lindros but the destruction waged on the team in the attempts to avoid it. It was easily the most dismal season I ever saw.
I spent a lot of years ripping on Leaf GM Floyd Smith for the mistakes he made that year but over time, as I really started to look at it, I can kind of feel for him. He still made a lot of mistakes but he really faced the perfect storm.
To really get what happened in 1990-91, you need to start with 1989-90. This team was the first Leaf team to finish .500 in a decade, which in and of itself doesn't sound like a whole lot, but to the fans it was huge.
What was even better about them was the way that they did it. This was a young team with lots of guys who'd come up through the system. We'd watched them grow and develop and they were finally starting to prosper. They couldn't defend a whole lot, but man, could they score. They'd set a team record with 337 goals scored that year, almost four and a quarter per game. The scoring came from everywhere. They had seven different 20-goal scorers and three more with at least 15. They had 90-point forwards on two different lines. Three defensemen hit for 49 points or better. Their games were fast-paced and exciting - no lead too safe, no deficit too great.
My favourite memory of that season was a Dec. 30, 1990 game at the Gardens, where I saw the Leafs - down 6-1 in the second - roar back with six unanswered goals to win it 7-6 in OT. Sitting behind a row of Boston fans made it all the more exciting.
That team had two lines that could basically qualify as first lines. The real first line was Olczyk (then 23 years old) between Leeman (25) and Osborne (28). Eddie O scored 88 points, mainly feeding Leeman, who scored 51 goals and 95 points. Osborne did the spade work and put up 50 assists along with 23 goals.
The other big line was Tom Fergus (27) between Damphousse (22) and Marois (21). Damphousse would set a Leaf record with 94 points from the left wing. Marois, who scored 31 as a rookie the year before, came up with 39 goals and 76 points in just 68 games. When Fergus was out with an injury, Gilles Thibaudeau (26) came out of nowhere to score 18 points in 21 games. The line didn't miss a beat.
Wendel (23) was still missing time from assorted injuries - back and leg, mainly, until a nasty hit by Fetisov tore his knee apart. He scored 18 goals in just 38 games. Journeyman Lou Franceschetti (31) scored 20 for the only time in his career.
The other forwards were checkers and tough guys like Danny Daoust (29), Dave Reid (25), Dave Hannan (28), John McIntyre (20) and John Kordic (24).
Pretty serious depth, and almost all of it young.
On D, the Leafs could really move the puck. Rob Ramage (31) had joined the team in preseason and was immediately named captain. It worked. He was a warrior and put up 49 points. Tom Kurvers (27) added 15 goals and 52 points.
The guy really coming into his own, though, was Al Iafrate (23). He was huge at 6'3" and 235 and was a fantastic skater. When he decided he wanted to carry the puck, trying to stop him was like standing in front of an oncoming freight train. He had his best season to date, with 22 goals (tied a Leaf record) and 63 points.
Defensively, Luke Richardson (20), Brian Curran (26), Todd Gill (24) and Brad Marsh (31) all did what they could.
In goal, Allan Bester (25) finally got the chance to start, backed by Mark LaForest (27) and Jeff Reese (23). A 20-year-old named Peter Ing got into three games. He was a big, lanky kid they had high hopes for, but other than a good start to his first game, he got lit up.
Again, this team was a blast to watch. They hit a high water mark of 5 games over .500 at 50 games (27-22-1). I remember talking with friends about how odd it was to have a team that late in the season that could actually lose a game and still be over .500. This was their first season under head coach Doug Carpenter and he looked like a keeper.
Lost in all the fun, though, were some injuries. Allan Bester had problems with bone spurs in his left heel. He had them worked on but never looked comfortable to me after that. His GAA ballooned to 4.49.
Wendel Clark missed time with back woes and that knee injury courtesy of Fetisov was a huge setback. He returned just in time for the playoffs but couldn't really contrbute much.
Tom Fergus missed basically all of February and March with groin/abdominal problems. He also just made it in time for the playoffs but it would soon show that his troubles were nowhere near done.
The killer, though, happened on March 24, 1990. With 1:51 remaining in a 4-1 win in Quebec, Al Iafrate got tangled up with Mike Hough. Iafrate wound up with a ruptured ACL and was finished for the season. He needed major resconstructive surgery.
With Iafrate out, the Leafs' transition game took an enormous blow. They lost three of the last four regular season games and four out of five in the playoffs. Counted together, the Leafs went 2-7 after Iafrate got hurt. This was huge.
Now - so far, I haven't even mentioned the trade. One game into 1989-90, the Leafs sent their 1991 first-rounder to New Jersey for Tom Kurvers. Kurvers staged a three-day holdout, then reported and really played pretty well. People raised a lot of eyebrows when the trade was announced, as 1991 was already known as the Lindros draft, but Floyd Smith was confident. "We're not going to finish last," he scoffed.
For 1989-90, he certainly looked correct.
As 1990-91 approached, the plan for the Leafs was to cut back on the goals against. They could certainly score, but they needed to check. There was a mid-summer deal that moved Mark LaForest (and a crazy kid named Domi) to the Rangers fpr Greg Johnston, who'd spend most of the year in the minors. This left the Leafs with unproven kids Jeff Reese and Peter Ing to back up Allan Bester.
Tom Fergus' abdominal problems weren't cleared up yet, and he wasn't ready to start the season. Neither was Iafrate. He missed all of training camp and the first three games (which the Leafs lost). He made his season debut in the home opener (above). Wendel was in the lineup but the suspicion all season was that he was playing hurt.
Right away, there was trouble and a lot of it. Allan Bester clearly wasn't right. By mid-October, it was determined that he now had calcium deposits in his heels and he'd need surgery. With LaForest gone to the Rangers, the entire goaltending duties now fell on the shoulders of Peter Ing, who'd had all of three career games going into the season, and he'd been shelled in two of them.
Iafrate did come back, but he was a completely different player. He wouldn't test that knee. He wouldn't rush the puck. The most dynamic skater the Leafs had was now transformed into an angry stay-at-home guy who rarely crossed centre and took a lot of penalties. When questioned by the media about his play, he snapped "this is how I have to play the game now." He had emotional issues, too. There had been marital problems stemming back a couple of years, and the rumour now was that his wife was seeing teammate Gary Leeman. It was not a good time for Al Iafrate.
Without him lugging that puck out, opponents could key on Ramage and particularly Kurvers. Tom struggled mightily under this. He never scored another Leaf goal.
Continuing the Iafrate-less trend from the previous season, the Leafs stumbled badly. They were 0-6-1 to start, beat Chicago, then lost their next three by a combined score of 21-9. That was it for Doug Carpenter. Last season's genius was gone after going 1-9-1. Assistant Tom Watt took over. It didn't help.
Without the D moving that puck, the offense really sputtered. Thibaudeau wasn't up to the task of replacing Fergus this time and Daniel Marois fell apart. He ended up with 21 goals and 9 assists in 1990-91 and would never score 20 again. The Olczyk line was a bit better, but Eddie only had four goals in 18 games and Osborne 6 points in the same 18. Leeman was in there with them.
A Nov. 8 loss to Vancouver had the Leafs at 2-15-1. That draft pick becoming Eric Lindros was now a real possibility. To make matters worse, Tom Fergus needed more surgery. He wasn't coming back to help. Not for ages.
On Nov 9, Floyd Smith started working the trades.
The first was a relatively minor one. To shore up the forwards, he sent 21-year-old Johnny McIntyre to LA for 30-year-old Mike Krushelnyski.
Then the bomb dropped. On Nov. 10, Smith addressed his defense by adding Dave Ellett (26) from the Jets. He sent Olczyk (24) and Osborne (29) west, also getting Paul Fenton (30) in return. Ellett was not Iafrate by any stretch, but wasn't bad in that first season. He'd be much stronger in a couple of years. The problem was that with Olczyk and Osborne gone, Marois slumping and Fergus out, the only player he could really pass to was Vincent Damphousse. Fenton was coming off a career year but it was clearly an outlier. As a Leaf, he had 5 goals in 30 games.
To make matters worse, that night in Chicago, Chris Chelios put Gary Leeman into the boards. Gary separated his shoulder. We didn't know it yet, but Gary Leeman, the guy who scored more goals each and every season and peaked at 51, was finished. He'd be out until January. Instead of 51 goals, he scored 17. After that, he had 30 more NHL goals left in him.
By the middle of November, the only player remaining from those two great lines who was producing at all was Damphousse. The Leafs' best line was Damphousse, Krushelnyski and Clark. Nobody else scored at all. Damphousse would finish the year with 73 points. Krushelnyski was second with 39 (as a Leaf).
After the Ellett deal, the Leafs actually won a couple of games. In the second of those, however, Tom Kurvers hurt his knee. He'd have surgery on Nov. 15.
So as of Nov. 15, the Leafs were 4-16-1. It was pretty clear by this point that their prime competition for Mr. Lindros was coming from Quebec, who were 3-15-3, also giving them 9 points. The Nordiques certainly wanted Lindros, and the Leafs were desperate to make sure they got him.
On Nov. 17, the Leafs and Nordiques pulled off a trade that would eventually help ensure that the Nordiques would finish last, and all it cost was another chunk of the future. The Leafs addressed the Kurvers injury by acquiring Michel Petit (26), plus checkers Aaron Broten (30) and Lucien Deblois (33). They sent Quebec former first-rounder Scott Pearson (21) and a pair of second-rounders (1991 and 1992). Quebec got kids and picks and the best chance at Lindros, the Leafs got older, slower, but a touch more stable. Win-win!
It took a couple of games, but the Leafs started to win. From Nov. 27 through the end of the year, they went 8-5-1. There was a minor deal on Dec. 17 that sent Franceschetti (32) and Curran (26) to Buffalo for Mike Foligno (31). The Leafs had 26 points at New Year's, with a record of 12-26-2. The Nordiques were still hanging around, though, just a single point back at 9-25-7.
To make matters worse yet again, the wheels came right off in January. The return of Leeman and the periodic play of Clark (who'd separated a shoulder in Dec.) didn't help as the Leafs went 0-7-3 in their next 10. Quebec tied them in the standings.
Smith started dealing again. On Jan 12, Tom Kurvers (27), fresh off his knee surgery, went to Vancouver for Brian Bradley (25), an offensive centre who didn't score a goal the rest of the season. Four days later, Iafrate (24), who was actually coming around a little bit, went to Washington for Bob Rouse (26) and Peter Zezel (25). Eight days later, it was Fenton and Kordic to Washington again for a fifth rounder.
The Iafrate deal probably saved the season, such as it was. Rouse was a rock and Zezel finally gave them a centre with some punch who could take the load off of Damphousse. Zezel had 28 points in 32 games and from about Feb 4 onwards, the Leafs played close to .500 hockey (10-11-6). (Iafrate would find his game again and was an all-star in 1992-93. The knee would cut his career really short, though.)
In a couple more deals, Brad Marsh went to Detroit for an eighth-rounder on Feb 4, and Allan Bester went to Detroit for a sixth a month later. He'd only played 5 games that year and hadn't won any of them. Fergus came back in February, but after just 14 games got filled in by Dave Taylor and was done again.
Toronto's 23-46-11 record gave them 57 points, comfortably ahead of Quebec, who finished 16-50-14 for 46 points.
At the draft, Quebec picked Lindros, who refused to report to them. A new expansion team in San Jose picked second and pulled Pat Falloon from the western leagues. New Jersey used Toronto's pick on a guy named Scott Niedermayer, who was projected to be pretty good, but hey - it wasn't Lindros, and that was all that mattered, right? The Leafs didn't draft until the third round, that thought they found a sleeper in a Quebec-leaguer named Yanic Perrault.
Along the way, that young fast explosive team became a team made up mainly of checkers and offensive guys who couldn't score. It was bloody depressing.
The silver lining came that summer. Floyd Smith was relieved of duty and the Leafs shocked everyone by naming Cliff Fletcher as their new GM.
Dawn of a new era.
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so if Burke panics boston drafts the next scott neidermyer and the leafs get the next yanic perrault?
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 14, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Is trading Tom Kurvers, Allan Bester, Daniel Marois, and John Kordic
really an example of panicking?
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 14, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Trading Iafrate
got us Rouse and Zezel who were both pretty key to the Pat Burns teams in the early 90’s.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 14, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
PANIC!!!!!1
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 14, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
They were, though I feel that if Iafrate had been part of that Leaf team in 1993, he might have been enough to get past LA. Who knows?
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by general borschevsky on Oct 14, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
This didn’t help me feel better.
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I just don’t get what’s so positive about it.
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by Karina on Oct 14, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Burke is a significantly better GM than Floyd Smith.
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uhhuh…. and?
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by Karina on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve no emotional investment in this situation — other than some empathy for y’all — but man this was a wild trip down memory lane. I remember that team and reading about each new move in the weekend paper’s league roundup and in THN. Great illustration of how sometimes disasters are caused by a series of short-sighted missteps.
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I rather think Perrault wasn’t a bad sleeper for a third round pick.
Nice recap. It really was a heart-breaking year. That 89-90 team really was some of the most fun I’ve had watching a team. Certainly it was my first time cheering for a Leafs team that was actually any good.
They used to play ragtime music (Hello Ma Baby!) after every Leafs goal – it may sound pretty cheesy now, but when it played about every two minutes during comebacks like that Boston game it seemed to fit the attitude that they’d be scoring another one soon. I loved it.
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Distinction
That Leafs team failed mainly due to injury.
This Leafs team is failing due to incompetence and effort.
I also don’t know if I’d call Gustavsson our Peter Ing.
We also lack a Wendel Clark, Vincent Damphousse, or Daniel Marois. That regression was hugely shocking on the Leafs part… this season was supposed to be another step in the right direction, but frankly last year’s team was pretty damn bad.
I’d argue that the 1990-91 sinkhole was REALLY out of left field. This year is more of a blind siding because the GM has worked so hard to convince everyone they would be competitive…rather than the players convincing us.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Great post
I was seven years old in 90-91 and since it was the first season I really paid attention to the team things didn’t really seem so horrible. Like, oh well, no playoffs this year cause those North Stars are just too darn good.
I have really vague memories about Vinny scoring four at the all-star game that year out of absolutely nowhere, tying a record. It was like my season highlight. Did that really happen?
Oh and one other thing. I was totally confident that Peter Ing was an amazing goaltender who didn’t get the credit he deserved that year (until I bought his hockey card and saw the awful truth in numbers). My folks bought me a picture book written by Paul Romanuk which helped further my delusion.
It’s clear that the Leafs are hoping they’ve found their goalie of the ‘90s. From the results of Peter Ing’s first NHL season, it looks like a good bet. – Romanuk
by Grabovski's better than you think on Oct 14, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions
Wrong Date of Comeback Against Bruins
You’re a year off on that awesome comeback win against the Bruins. I was there as well, and it was December 30, 1989.
On the ‘all heart’ Wendel Clark clip (found it through DGB), there’s one highlight where he absolutely mows someone down, the Bruins turn over the puck and Clark puts it in on a goalmouth scramble. Could that be the winning goal? I don’t remember this game at all.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Oct 14, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think that’s the goal – you wouldn’t forget a hit like that.
I’ve made it my personal goal in life to keep the memory of the December 30, 1989 alive. It was indeed The Best Game of the 1980s.
by Toronto Mike on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I have it on good authority that the All Heart goal is indeed the Bruins OT one.
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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 14, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t have a great view of it, but it was certainly on a goalmouth scramble.
At 6-1, the half-dozen Bruins in the row in front of me were loud and obnoxious. With each goal they got quieter and quieter and quieter….
It was a thing of beauty….
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I vividly remember that comeback win over the bruins. I was drinking underage at a bar for one of the first times in my life. The place went crazy when the Leafs won it.
Olcyzk scored goals 5 and 6 and then Clark won it in OT. I seem to recall Clark missed a late shift to get his skate repaired and scored the winner on the fixed blades.
Krushelnyski also scored a beauty shoot-out goal against that Russian team a few nights later.
I scan youtube from time to time hoping someone has put up the highlights from these games, but no luck so far.
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Yes – it was a typo. If it was part of the ‘89-90 season, then it had to be Dec. 30, 1989. The Leafs played a Russian team (Khimik?) on New Year’s Eve and they were in the stands watching that comeback.
Khimik beat them.
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Was that the Russian team that Dmitri Mirinov was on? I remember going to that game.
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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t say. I remember that they brought up Yanic Perrault for that game. He wore #7. His Upper Deck RC has the picture from that game. By his first real call-up, he wore #44.
They interviewed the Russian coach after the Bruins game, though. His comment? “Very strong offense. Very weak defense.” ‘Bout sums it up. The team couldn’t believe the Leafs didn’t fold their tents after being down 6-1.
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Looking it up
The hhof says he played for Krylja Sovetov Moscow (better known as CTRL-V).
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So, what you’re saying is….Gustavsson is Peter Ing, Toskala will be traded to Detroit, Joey Macdonald, as Jeff Reese, will be packaged in a mega-deal for our next franchise saviour, Luke Schenn’s girlfriend is sleeping around the team and this is why he’s regressing, but it’s okay, because we’ll trade him for two players who will be integral to two deep playoff runs? And Boston won’t get Taylor Hall, but a solid two-way D-man, while our first pick is a faceoff specialist who we won’t really get an impact out of until we trade to bring him back to Toronto six years after we traded him away?
Awesome.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
That is awesome. Welcome abord, Fifty.
Great post as always, ’67. Love the title.
by general borschevsky on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the warm welcome, Gen. Borschevsky. First time caller, long time listener.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No, not really
I’m just saying that if this team flounders, people are going to be talking about that Kurvers deal all the time. Best to have it documented just how it played out.
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Nice Catch 22 reference. Welcome aboard.
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great write-up 67, as always. how do you remember all this stuff?
you know, i had totally forgotten about this season, but now it’s all coming back. i had just started high school, almost none of my new friends were hockey fans, and at 14 i suddenly became more interested in attempting to pick up chicks, hanging out at the mall and pool hall, listening to tunes, and learning to smoke. the fact that the leafs were abysmal made it easy for me to not care. unfortunately i paid limited attention to them the next several years, so i wasn’t fully engaged in the great playoff runs in 93/94. which, actually, might not be so bad, since i’m not as emotionally scarred by them as some people are.
This one’s burned into the psyche. I can’t get rid of it. :)
I put together the list of dates a while back. It’s when you add the injury dates to the trade dates that the whole thing starts to make sense.
I was 20 that season. Second-year university. Man, it was brutal.
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I was 3 during this season, so it goes without saying I remember nothing. I never even watched a hockey game until the 1993-94 season, and didn’t really follow it until I was about 11. So this stuff just serves as a not-so-awesome history lesson.
It’s funny how you can remember the games you go to, too. I definitely remember most of the dates, scores and opponents of games I go to (doesn’t hurt I kept a few of the ticket stubs, either…).
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 14, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a great post. Regardless of the relevance to today, which most likely will be overstated, it’s always fun to read stories like these, no matter how tragically true they are. Incidentally, one of my first hockey memories is of that 6-1 comeback against the Bruins. I was six at the time, and though I remember nothing specifically about the game, I remember how proud I was that the Leafs were able to come back from such a horrible deficit, especially against the Bruins, which were my brother’s favourite team. I also have fleeting memories of Brad Marsh, who always intrigued me because he was the only player not to wear a helmet. For whatever reason, I thought that was really cool.
It’s funny, up until 92-93, which is the season that really got me into the team, the Leafs were mostly horrible throughout my early childhood. But I don’t remember them as horrible. I just remember them as the local team; I guess winning and losing doesn’t mean that much to a kid. Sure, I’d want them to win individual games that i was watching (though my FAVOURITE team before 92-93 was Pittsburgh – I loved Lemieux and Coffey), but I guess I was oblivious to things like the playoff race and the draft and home ice advantage and all that stuff. Not sure what the point is – I guess just that this really takes me back. So thanks.
Interesting stuff
Back then, I was a die hard Kings fan because they were the only team within 1k miles of San Diego. I remember McIntyre. Good third-line center when he was with LA, plus had the truculence Burke wants out of today’s group.
I remember Allan Bester and Peter Ing when they were out of the league. They came to San Diego, and Ing teamed with Clint Malarchuk and Rick Knickle during that 132-point campaign the Gulls had when they were the unofficial 25th NHL franchise due to the high number of NHL players under contract.
Ing’s save percentage was very Dan Cloutier-like but he won games. That’s all that mattered that one season here in San Diego.
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I really hope Kessel isn’t Tom Kurvers all over again. Imagine how good the Leafs would’ve been if they got Niedermayer during the Pat Burns era. If Taylor Hall ends up becoming a HoF player like Niedermayer is, then ima go on a streak of extreme truculence
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 15, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions
Terrific Stuff
I have been thinking about that year’s team too as this most recent version of the Leafs stumbles and bumbles out of the gate.
Terrific write-up once again. Awesome job 1967ers. Rec’d.
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Floyd Smith was a genius
I never realized just how much of the ground work Smith laid for the Pat Burns / Fletcher resurgence but all of those trades netted most of the plumbing depth that helped them contend down the road.
Ellett, Rouse, Krusher, Foligno, Bradley (turned into Cullen no?).
Of course,we probably would’ve won a cup by now if we had drafted Scott Niedermeyer but who are we kidding? The Leafs would’ve dropped the ball on that.
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He definitely laid groundwork but he took the team from one unbalanced extreme to another.
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