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dear god I hate people.
Calling for trading Schenn, I want to hurt them

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

yup, i hate them all

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

who is doing this and where do they live?

by birky on Oct 18, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

random morons on random blogs, and their mothers basement

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now there’s a word that needs to be resurrected.

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Oct 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

love the sim city reference

another thing to cheer you up: Andrew Raycroft has looked pretty good in two relief appearances this year for Vancouver.

Happy Sunday :-)

by Temujin on Oct 18, 2009 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Raycroft has always been ok at coming in for relief

wait till he starts a game, then its magic time

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

tomorrow

against Edmonton should be his first start.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Oct 19, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid Transit Advisor

He was basically the only way to incorporate terrorism into the game; blowing up roads if you cut his funding. A-hole.

That was awesome though I just laughed out loud (which is impressive since they just showed the leafs highlights on TSN)

I'm not even supposed to be here today..!

by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blog

http://leafandlion.blogspot.com/2009/10/october-17th-2009-leafs-vs-rangers.html

I wrote a live-recap last night and I don’t think I got a lot of traffic. Decent read.

by leafandlion on Oct 18, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

WTF is Google Wave? I watched the video and I still don’t know… some kind of F’ed up MSN-like thing?

-Graham-

by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 18, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Also,

Did anyone else freak out when Ian White got hit in the face with the puck? Like, we aren’t winning with him in the lineup, it would be impossible without him.

I'm not even supposed to be here today..!

by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I wasnt worried for a second, Ian white is, pound for pound the toughest player in the NHL

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t too worried, he left the ice under his own power and with both eyes visible intact.

-Graham-

by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 18, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh it wasn’t very likely he wouldn’t come back, but there’s always a chance; especially with Wilson scratching anyone with a runny nose in favour of XLB whenever he can.

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by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to worry

We must all learn to respect the moustache… of truculence.

and the Mustache of Truculence (formerly Canada4Mizzou)

by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

TRADING FOR GIGGY RIGHT NOW WOULD BE A TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA WHY ARE PEOPLE SO GODDAMNED NEAR SIGHTED!!!

AUGH!

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate people

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly we could probably get Giguere cheap because Anaheim wants to cap space. We could probably also convince Anaheim to waive Giguere and call him back up which would let us claim him at half price.

Thanks, being last place!

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

we could probably get a good deal on Giggy yes, but what do we have that they want? They arnt gonna want our UFAs and RFAs looking to reup and in most cases looking for a raise.
they are gonna want picks your youth with a roster player thrown in.

I think its a bit early to push that button yet.
Also Giggys NTC, sure Toronto is an ideal destination for him outside of Cali, but he still has to say yes

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF we were to trade for Giggy (personally don’t think we’re there yet), I’m thinking the Ducks would be more under the Burkian perception that getting rid of him would give them an asset back in cap space. Say if we were to trade MVR (who isnt playing the rest of the year) for Giggy, they would automatically free up over 3 million to add someone at the deadline and another 3 on top of that after the season.

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by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see the ducks giving up Giggy for anything less than a Heatly like package (values adjusted)

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why? They have Hiller and don’t need a $6.5M backup.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

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by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you dont give away something you can sell for a lot for a little, unless you are stupid

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

$6.5 million in cap space is more than a little.

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by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

they dont need that cap space tomorrow, there is no rush. at the very worst, they shop him till the deadline and then bend over for someone willing to take him

all in all IF he chooses to waive his clause, which I still have huge doubts he will.

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that’s less cap space. They could move him now, do nothing with the space all year, and then grab Kovalchuk and something else good at the deadline easy.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I’m sure they’d move him now if they got offered a decent package, but I don’t see Burke offering them anything they need or want

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What would the Ducks be needing right now anyway? Defensive depth? To be honest our “defensive depth” isn’t quite as impressive as it looked at the beginning of the season so I don’t know about that anymore either.

Aren’t we all glad now the “move White” people didn’t get their way?

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by T is for Truculence on Oct 18, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ducks need defense for sure, but they probably have no intrest in finger because his contract, white is a pending RFA who Burke really doesnt want to part with it, Exelby is garbage and Frogren is a third pairing D at best, not really a substitute for what they lost in pronger and not a good enough stop gap for their youth

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only real option is Kaberle (who has been decidedly meh so far) but Burke is not going to be asking him to waive his no-trade so that’s not really a go.

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by T is for Truculence on Oct 18, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

there’s no way Burke moves Kaberle now. The first pass is already a problem, why move your best passing defenseman?

by birky on Oct 18, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one big problem with trading for Giguere, besides his NTC, is his contract. Anaheim would probably want expiring deals in return, so guys like Stajan, Poni, Stemp, etc. Giguere still has 7 million left on his contract for next season. Dealing for Giguere would severely impact any chance Burke has at making a significant upgrade in the free agent market next summer.

by birky on Oct 18, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anaheim would probably give us Giguere for a conditional fifth just to be rid of his salary.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see it

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree, if only bc Anaheim isn’t in need of ridding his salary just yet. they don’t need the cap space, really. If they had their eyes set on a target, then i should see them moving Giggy for something (considerably more than a conditional fifth, as well). As it is, they’re more likely to shop at the deadline for a team who really needs some stellar backup tending for a playoff push/run.

by Vinn on Oct 18, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i disagree, but only with your last statement. No team, unless they plan to buy him out, is going to trade for a 7 million dollar back-up goalie. Teams that suffer a season ending injury, or have major goaltending issues, are the only ones that would look at Giguere.

by birky on Oct 18, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can see where they are coming from in that Giger has an NTC and toronto is one of the few places that his son would be close to the medical care he needs (also apparently giggy has stated he wouldnt mind coming to toronto) but i can see the ducks trying to squeeze this for all its worth.

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t need the space “yet,” but the sooner they trade him, the sooner they can stop paying him, and the more cap space will have accumulated by the time they DO need to make their move.

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by Wan Ihite on Oct 18, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see Anaheim getting quality assets for their $7M backup.

Most teams don’t have the cap space or the need.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, but Giggy isnt a 7 mill backup by trade, he’s a 7 mill starter who has had his job stolen by a younger and cheaper goalie, so to most teams he has starter value

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not to Anaheim.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Id rather go after Harding anyways

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s an RFA in 2010.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

thus he’ll be cheaper and playing for a contract

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it’ll cost first rounders to get him.

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Giggity, no doubt.

"Sanity is not statistical." - George Orwell, a Leafs fan...
Stalk me here...

by blurr1974 on Oct 18, 2009 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sorry I'm A Little Late

My game review is up. I also added the 1989-90 Quebec Nordiques to the Harold Ballard Division to give the Leafs a little competition once they start winning.

by Rock Outta SoCal on Oct 18, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, those harold ballard division standings just brought me to a whole new level of despair. a worse start than the 92/93 sens? sweet f-in christ.

by daoust on Oct 18, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

No use sugar coating it. We’re off to a horrible start but at least there’s 75 games left to fix this.

by Rock Outta SoCal on Oct 18, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy hell

prospect Alexander Fallstrom and winger Craig Weller, as well as a second round pick in 2011 For CHUCK FUCKING KOBASEW

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

even though they don’t sound that much alike, whenever i hear kobasew, i think kolbassa.

by daoust on Oct 18, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

same thing
that is one hell of a return for mr spiced polish sausage

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wild seem to be really desperate for depth. I’m assuming Kobasew will play on the 2nd line now.

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by bkblades on Oct 18, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have a big hole to fill with gaborick, maybe they are trying to plug it with 3rd liners, i wonder what we could get for stajan

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bruins also have 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders in the next two years

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is now my response to everything hockey related.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Oct 19, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

mother of god…..

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 18, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemmy has waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on his hands. Thank God he uses it wisely.

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Oct 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

HARDCORE FEEEELINGS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFr30p0aZl0

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by Chemmy on Oct 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

A closed mouth catches no flies. NSFW.

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Oct 18, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s new pussycat? Whoa-oh, whoa-oh

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by furcifer on Oct 18, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Chemmy and PPP...

Has the fact that the Leafs have not won a game affected the blog numbers at all? I’ll be honest, I find myself stopping by less and less, as I can’t really bear to read about the Leafs. Please win a game! Also, the fact that there are no games this week will likely affect my surfing (that and a deadline…that I should be working on now…)

by Leaf in Habland on Oct 18, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I was wondering that too, this place seems really dead today, even for a sunday.

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by Shield on Oct 18, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avoidance leads to healing.

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Oct 18, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. They’d probably be higher if the Leafs were awesome.

You’re just a traitor.

(I feel the same way.)

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by Chemmy on Oct 19, 2009 12:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this

is why I hang out in the CC.
No hockey talk (thank god)

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Oct 19, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Not among loyal Leaf fans at least Benedict.

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by PPP on Oct 19, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are right. I shouldn’t hide alone with my pain. Group therapy session indeed. But I have to go back to reading about estate tax now…sigh.

by Leaf in Habland on Oct 19, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes

You really do need a break!

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by PPP on Oct 19, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

chiarelli must be pretty happy right now.

Go Houston Rockets!

by Duster on Oct 19, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Is it possible to double or triple down-rate a comment? I keep hitting the action link and nothing really appropriate shows up.

"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09

by kidkawartha on Oct 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, i feel as bad about it as anyone does.
maybe gustavsson will come back, be stellar, and the team will rally behind him to an 8th place finish.

Go Houston Rockets!

by Duster on Oct 19, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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