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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 2:13 AM EDT
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From left to right: Vesa Toskala, Jason Blake, Matt Stajan and Jamal Mayers
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- Down Goes Brown has his thoughts on the 90s nights.
- Straight Outta SoCal is looking for a captain.
- Leafs247 reviews the upcoming road trip, and doesn't see much in the way of easy wins.
- TSM is agreeing with Working Class Howard. Yes, you read that right.
- The Vintage Leafs keeps distracting from the present, by showing us the past.
- Hockey Blog In Canada takes a look at the effect of sweeping roster changes.
- Just because it annoyed me so, here is an article from TO Sports outlining the reasons why Luke Schenn should be sent to the Marlies.
UPDATE
- Dr. Steve sees a silver lining for the Leafs. Next year...
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despite my lack of copious posting… here’s my latest.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’ve done some inquiring into the Leafs potential cap space next season as well. I would imagine that Burke would bring back at least 1 or 2 of the UFAs for less money, probably Stemp and Primeau. But you’re still looking at 16-18 million in cap space for the summer. Don’t forget though, that the team will have to resign Gustavsson and White. I would put the Leafs cap space somewhere around 12-14 million for the summer for UFA acquisitions.
there are some good ones out there too
Savard, Marleau, Kovalchuck, Frolov
I could also see Poni getting resigned
but then Kulemin, Hanson, Big Phil, Mitchell and Tlusty will probably be looking at raises
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
They wouldn’t get too much in a raise.
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no, but just say all are re-signed it will probably be at least 9 mill
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i think Kulemin and Tlusty will get around 2, the rest closer to 1.5
but even so 7.5 mill is a solid chunk of change. Not to mention a backup goalie and some utility players.
The Leafs will probably have about 8 mill to spend on one big name or 2 lesser players.
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
i wouldnt give any of those guys 2 mil, they havent done a damn thing in the NHL
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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 19, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Leadership...
Where is it on the Leafs? There will be no play-offs till there is one; ever heard of a team making that far without a captain…NO! I can digest another train wreck, but at least have a captain, so the team knows where to crash land.
Yeshhh!.
by aki berg fan club on Oct 19, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions
YAH! Putting a C on someone’s jersey should help!
Since it is that arbitrary let’s put it on Orr.
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he is after all, one of the few players doing his job everynight!
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
if that’s the basis, would that mean Stempniak has an outside shot?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but it went off the post
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
our post or the oppositions?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, it was one of the support posts in the locker room, They were playing around with a tennis ball and it bounced off the post and into Stajan’s eye.
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THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If you can dodge a ball, you can dodge a wrench
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Oct 19, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Get the C or an A to White. He stepped up when he was give a shot with the Leafs, he’ll step up again.
by WendelMadeMe on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
no C, but he deserves Komi or Beauch’s A
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
dont disgrace the C by giving to any of these bums
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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 19, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember how happy we were after Gustavsson made that save? I want to be that happy again.
Gustavsson…
GUSTAVSSON…
GUSTAVSSON!
MONSTER!!!1
by general borschevsky on Oct 19, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions
We should have a “Pre-Season Night” where we celebrate the extrordinary accomplishments of our 6-3 pre-season. We could have Kadri, Bozak, and Hanson come out to drop the ceremonial face-off.
by general borschevsky on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Ba de yah!
Say do you remember?
Ba de yah!
Dancin’ in September?
Ba de yah!
Never was a cloudy daaaayyyyyyy!
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by puckurgently on Oct 19, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the spirit!
We’re winning on Saturday. You can book it!
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Oct 19, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d
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by Karina on Oct 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
damn you
for bringing that up. I knew at the time it was Mursak to Ryno, not Datsyuk to Zetterberg, so it was too good to be true.
But still. That hurts. This honestly feels like it was 1997.
Ironically, watching that clip again made me notice that the entire 2-0 was caused by Garnet Exelby falling over for NO REASON WHATSOEVER
Not true
The reason is because he is sux0rz!!1
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Oct 19, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
oh god no, the last thing the leafs need is to be paying him money till 2020
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
better idea
waive him to the Marlies.
poof – cap hit gone.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, id rather take an extra 2 mill hit over 2 years than 1 over four
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
if he gets claimed
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
he won't
so bury him. if he plays well, call him up and let him get claimed. if he plays poorly, leave him down there. if he refuses to report, file a grievance.
still, cap hit is gone.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
well yes, that was the worst case, best case he rides out the two years in the AHL and the Leafs never need to call him up
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
One problem with this idea. I hate Blake as much as the next guy (probably a lot more) but an arguably proven vet gets demoted to the AHL because he’s in a slump will probably start a big wave of NMC around the league. Also, how many veteran players will be looking to sign with the Leafs if this happens?
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Oct 19, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
the message will be
“dont suck like Jason Blake”
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty much
and who cares. if a player can’t see that there are consequences to not performing up to your contract, then he can go suck eggs.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the honest answer is Burke needs to try to trade Blake for anything, even a fifth round pick or a bad prospect.
If every GM says no, Burke needs to tell Blake he’s being waived unless he chooses to retire.
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i think thats the plan . The only logical explanation why he hasnt been sat yet Trying to give him every opportunity to excel and give him SOME trade value
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
yes. and, being a “player’s GM” i’m fairly certain that’s exactly how it would go down.
it would be one thing if Blake were being a superpest out there and just buzzing around, using his speed to draw penalties while putting up some points. I don’t expect him to score 40 goals ever again. I don’t expect him to eclipse 25 ever again, truth be told.
the problem with him right now is that he seems to play on the perimeter too much, and the opposition knows that 9/10 shots is going to go wide or hit the goalie square in the chest.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Right. He signed a great contract for him but it’s pretty obvious he’s done at this point. I don’t think any player is going to say "Whoa they buried Jason Blake and Vesa “.812” Toskala I’m not going there".
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so in 2 years when the leafs are ready to make a cup run (crosses fingers) you want that extra million a year gumming a possible last piece trade?
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
kovalchuck, Savard, Marleau, Frolov this year
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
change the maybe to a yes, and we are in agreement
Frolov is awesome….at the right price
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Kovi and Marleau would be awesome at the right price too
Problem is you aren’t going to get them for that right price.
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Kovalchuk is going to get $8M+. He doesn’t understand the word defense. I would take Kovalchuk for $5M max, but so would everyone.
Marleau is good but he’s 30 and will want a big contract. Honestly I’m not sure I want to sign 30 year olds to big deals right now.
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"Floating Frolov"
that is all
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I don’t think we need offense first players on this team. We have a floater already in Kessel.
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I saw Frolov quite a bit in LA, and he reminds me of Kovalev light. he’s awesome in flashes, but just as frustrating in others.
do not want.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Marleau would be a great “last piece”
ill take his equivalent in 3 years
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
id pay Kovalchuk 7, the guys is an amazing hockey player and is better than anyone the leafs have probably ever had
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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 19, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Kovalchuck is good at one thing, Scoring goals, and he may just be one of the best out there.
but he is pretty terrible at everything else
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
CH would know better, but I can’t help thinking the Bruins losing Kobasew was aimed at resigning Savard.
Harder, better, faster, stronger because our work is never over.
what they said
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
DING DING DING
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
thank god
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
re-signing Savard a 2nd AND 2 prospects all for the price of an under achieving 3rd liner.
damn Chirelli is good
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I’m hoping, anyhow.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Goddamn, so many draft picks.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
i see a kovalchuck in your future
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I see something.
Maybe the bruins AND the leafs could suck and we’d get 2 lottery picks.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Oct 19, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
if it happens for 2 years you get 4!
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Blake Caphit if bought out on June 15th (earliest date it could be done)
JASON BLAKE BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $2,000,000
2011-2012: $2,000,000
2012-2013: $1,000,000
2013-2014: $1,000,000
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yeah, no thanks
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i’m not sure this is correct. the buyout rules state that it’s 2/3 of the remaining salary spread out over twice the remaining number of years.
Blake has two years a 6 mill total (his contract was front loaded), which would be 4 million spread out over 4 years.
Yeah that is the rule….
Hmph, Wonder what is up with their buyout calculator, I didn’t check the numbers I just ran it.
And if he was bought out on June 15th that would be after the season… so technically he would have just 1 season at 3Mil. So it would be 1.5 over 2 years.
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Capgeek just shows the cap hit per year, not the actual value of the contract.
NHLnumbers.com does a much better job, IMO.
Yup, top left, click “show salaries” or “show cap hit”.
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it's correct...
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
the text portion
that you copied, is showing the “buyout cap hit” and not the total dollars spent on the buy out. More from capgeek:
Jason Blake is 36 years old on the buyout date of June 15, 2010, putting the total buyout cost at $4,000,000 spread over 4 years. His contract was originally valued at $20,000,000 with an annual cap hit of $4,000,000 beginning in 2007 and ending in 2012. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit number indicates a credit.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Im confused.
All I was concerned was the cap hit that would result from the buyout.
Does the 2/3 salary spread over double the year rule on pertain to actual dollars spent by the club?
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he’s got $6M and 2 yrs left.
all we need to know is the buyout is $4M over 4 years. The cap hit for those remaining two is not $1M, but $2M.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
But why is the cap hit 2 Mil for those two years?
What is the rule as it pertains to the cap hit. I get why its 4Mil spread out over the 4 years which is 1 Mil a year actual cost to MLSE but why does the cap hit not reflect that like it does with Tucker’s contract?
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His contract is still “on the books” for those two years, and the cap hit for them is that annual salary minus the buyout amount for that year.
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Ah just found it. Thanks Skinnyfish
1. Take the actual salary due for each remaining year.
2. Take the Averaged Player Salary (cap hit) for the current contract
3. Calculate the buy-out amount (as described above)
4. Spread the buy-out amount evenly over twice the remaining years of the contract
5. Take the number in #1 and subtract the number in #4. This is the "buyout savings".
6. Take the cap hit from #2 and subtract the buyout savings from #5.
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bingo
basically, this is why the NHL teams now have “capologists”
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
heh, that’s where I found it. Google is our friend!
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bookmark it
i did a while ago. it’s not light reading, but it’s a handy resource!
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I need to get me a job doing that. Hey Burkie, gimme a job!!!
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go check out capgeek. I like nhlnumbers for a quick look at cap hits/salary, but capgeek is a lot of fun to get into the nuts and bolts of things.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Waive him
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
and dead cap space for nothing after it, demoting him is the better option because even if the leafs ever need to call him up and he is claimed (which probably wont happen) his cap hit goes away in 2 years, not 4
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course waiving him makes more sense, but how much control does Burke have over those (financial) matters? Does he have to go to the board for a decision like that? Would they let him basically throw out 2 million dollars? I know it’s not a lot of money to MLSE, but doesn’t it seem more like MLSE to save the 2 mill than make a smart hockey move?
it’s Brian Burke
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by blurr1974 on Oct 19, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Brian Burke aint affraid to waive a bitch
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
he’d waive the board of directors if they tried to stop him
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Im sure MLSE reads the papers and hears the sports shows on the radio. They know people aren’t happy and I think would defer to their “Hockey Expert” that they brought in to make decisions like this.
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didnt you hear? scalpers are having to sell tickets at market value!
they sky is falling!
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
RUN FOR THE HILLS!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIIIIIIFE
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
So I live in NC and am planning on going to the Nov 19th game against the Hurricanes.
Lower bowl tickets in the corners are 45 bucks on stubhub.
Could you imagine that in Toronto?
that will never happen, there could be a nuclear war and zombies could roam the planet and you’d still be able to find 10000 Leaf fans willing to spend 400 bucks for lower bowl tickets
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
BRAINS AND GO LEAFS GO!!!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Scalpers always sell things at market value.
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by Chemmy on Oct 19, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that would be logical but this is the media so we know that they haven’t figured that out yet
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure why everyone hates scalpers. Unless you’re MLSE you shouldn’t care either way.
You don’t have season tickets, you didn’t get any tickets in the ten seconds they were available for sale. Without scalpers you weren’t going to the game period.
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so true…I have no issue with scalpers. They charge a bit much for my level of interest, but if I wanna go, it takes a miracle to get good seats without them
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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 19, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean it sucks, but the only way to “fix” scalpers would be for the Leafs to charge actual market value for their tickets.
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There is the little point that scalpers have bought all the tickets, thereby causing the ticket shortage in the first place.
It’s kind of like saying, “drug dealers aren’t that bad, without them you couldn’t get drugs…….”
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
This.
Makes it especially bad when (as in the Ballard years) the scalpers have connections inside the organization. Also, they just bug me with the constant “who’s buying? who’s selling” shtick.
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They’re not causing anything. If they can sell the tickets at inflated prices, those tickets would be just as sold if they could only be had directly from the box office at face value. They don’t create a shortage, they just notice it and act on it.
There’s some sliminess in the way most of them do business, but in any functional way that’s meaningful to the buyer, the only difference between them and Ticketmaster is that the latter has MLSE’s blessing.
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by puckurgently on Oct 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t really work that way, but ok.
If you want to be mad about tickets be mad about Ticketmaster.
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If I have any anger about ticket issues, Chemmy, rest assured it’s 100% with TicketMaster. How they haven’t been taken down by an anti-trust suit is just beyond me some days. I’m not mad at scalpers, they’re just using the cracks in the system to make a buck. I’m a firm believer in the invisible hand of the black market, not the fictional one that Econ. majors are always yapping about.
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market = face
word fail!
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 19, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I adore this comment.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how the article about Schenn is written by "Ben Dover"
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