Vancouver Province Fails At Life
by Godd Till on Oct 21, 2009 5:17 PM EDT
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Shots can be a fuzzy statistic. The Detroit Red Wings have led the league for years. That's when it's a good stat. The Toronto Maple Leafs have been in the top-10 for years. That's when it's a bad one.
Sometimes it indicates which team is controlling play. Other times, it's only indicative of a van full of bricklayers launching rocks at a goalie from the roadside.
2008-09 Goals For: Toronto - 250, Vancouver - 246. Some days I really hate living here.
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Wow...
And it’s only Wednesday. The game isn’t for three days yet. And they play Chicago tonight in the meantime. Somebody’s obsessed here. ;)
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
you'd think
that given how badly Chicago beat them in the playoffs, they wouldn’t look past tonight’s game. But now. Their obsession with Toronto is frightening.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Their obsession with Toronto is frightening.
You do realize this statement pretty much sums up Vancouvers entire raison d’etre, right?
by Blue and White Expat on Oct 21, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
I find so many things to enjoy here without the need to compare it to TO, you’d think the natives would as well.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s all of those Ontarians who’ve moved out to the West Coast and are pining away for flat land and fresh water seas. The true natives could care less about Toronto. And I’m telling you this as an American who used to live half an hour from the US-Canada border on the Washington State side just south of Vancouver.
Cassie
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning Blog. Calling shotgun in the clown car.
by Cassie McClellan on Oct 21, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but that’s only because the true natives are way too busy avoiding work, scoring really good pot, and trashing Robson Street. They don’t have time to read.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Oct 21, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Cassie
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning Blog. Calling shotgun in the clown car.
by Cassie McClellan on Oct 21, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I worked with one of the kids who was down on Robson in ‘94- I should’ve ratted him out. Come to think of it, I never had any problem picking up work while I was there. Unfortunately, I needed 3-4 jobs just to pay rent.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
Oh yeah. Living in Vancouver is hugely expensive. And the commute from the burbs sucks. I’ve always hated driving in Vancouver.
Cassie
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning Blog. Calling shotgun in the clown car.
by Cassie McClellan on Oct 21, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
no
true natives have intense hatred for Toronto, stemming from the fact that they think it gets way too much attention. Trust me. I’ve faced it more than once.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Saturday....
it’s going to be crazy….
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 21, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Canucks fans
Remind me of a homely girl who has a huge crush on you whose advances you reject. Years later, the girl will still be obsessed with you and passionately hate you for every little thing; meanwhile, every time this happens, you look at her go, “I’m sorry…..WHO are you? Have we met before?”
That is the relationship between Canuck fans and Leaf fans. Hatred mixed with constant pining for attention from us.
Just give Seattle a team already so they’ll go away. Kthx.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd welcome a Seattle-based team
so that those Vancouver Chirpers would harp on the new team instead of us.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 21, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Than what’s Sen’s fans?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 21, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There are no Sens “fans”, only bandwagoners who hate the Leafs. Their hatred of the Leafs is so strong that they lobbied (successfully somehow) for the NHL to put a team in Ottawa just so they wouldn’t have to watch Leafs games anymore. Their plan worked but not very well, they figured the CBC would instantly fall in love with the Sens. Not very bright are these guys.
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
I’m surrounded by mental midgets!
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated... and truculent!
You’re not far off the mark. This actually happened:
“The Senators have been an integral part of the economy in Ottawa, and our civic branding, and it’s offensive to [have] a bunch of people walking around with Toronto Maple Leaf jerseys when civic pride is on the line.”
Ottawa Councillor Rick Chiarelli, brother of Mayor Bob Chiarelli, after city council unanimously approves ban on Leafs jerseys.
That’s not a normal sense of humour. It’s not a normal city.
by general borschevsky on Oct 21, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, pretty sure that’s not legal. If I lived in Ottawa I would have flaunted that one big time.
by Leaf in Habland on Oct 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
the best part of it all was that you had to bring a peice of canned food if you wanted to wear your leaf jersey to the games in ottawa. Im off on the facts but I beleive that the city Toronto donated like $5,000 anda ton of canned food and the city of ottawa wouldnt match or something like that
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Oct 22, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
at least the “canned food per jersey” thing was easy enough to accomplish and for a good cause, I could even get behind it (although i would not suggest enforcing it if someone didnt have a can of beef broth or whatever)
I wonder how many sens fans donated food
Refusing To Bow To Your Standards Since 2006
by JaredFromLondon on Oct 22, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad they don’t do that anymore, it would be hard to hold on to a can of food on a packed bus while drinking.
I'm not even supposed to be here today..!
if i did that, it is almost assured my can of peas would go through the first windshield of the car full of sens fans honking and yelling at me
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 22, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha awesome
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Oct 22, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i was in montreal last february and i ran into some sens fans downtown, the conversation went like this
“Hey guys you here for the game?”
“Yea, were from Ottawa”
“oh… thats too bad…”
“yea we know…..”
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Oct 22, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol or smashed into the face of one of the many idiotic Sens fans on the bus. I still dont understand 30-60 year olds decked out in Sens gear. Even I remember when the sens didn’t exist and I’m 21.
I'm not even supposed to be here today..!
i know a few (usually wives of hockey fansor immigrants) who didnt like hockey and then when they did, the sens were either good or the local team
still a dumb descision
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 22, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell me about it
Why do the bricklayers throw rocks? Don’t they have bricks? Why is the van driving beside the road, not on it? Why is there a goalie standing on the road?
I FEEL LIKE I’M TAKING CRAZY PILLS
The weirder part is
absolutely NO effort was made to use a metaphor in the first half of the sentence.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Why is the goalie stopping the rocks? I would think they’d be more difficult to stop than pucks. Especially when launched in some fashion by strong people like bricklayers.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Oct 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
People don’t actually read the province, they just look at the purty pictures.
If and when the Leafs get more points than the Canucks (it may not be this year) I will be excited to hear the reasoning behind why the “Laffs suck” from my extremely inventive coworkers. I’ve given them warnings to refrain from using “the laffs” but they keep doing it. I think I’m going to file a workplace discrimination suit.
You, Till, and Karina are the front-line forces in this battle against stupidity. Godspeed.
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My standard response to any baiting is going to be “shut up” from now on. Just repeat it until they do. There’s no sense in reasoning with any vancouver “fans”.
I just give their season another month of them sucking and most will be well off the bandwagon and not caring about hockey anyway.
by LeafFanInVan on Oct 21, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Ask them when their attention shifts to the Olympics.
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I’ve hit this point as well. They’re playing poorily as well so any comments about the Leafs still waiting for their first win are answered by an eye-roll and shut up from me.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
there’s a million Wellwood is fat jokes to fall back on.
"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy
by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Oct 21, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but they just take that as permission to continue.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
there’s a million Wellwood is fat jokes to fall back on.
About one per pound then?
by Vent on Oct 21, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Rec'd
You’re a good kid, Vent. :D
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 21, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, someone needs to put together the entire list of Wellwood related fat jokes that have appeared on this site.
Is there anyway to do a word-specific search?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 21, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Search “wellwood” and you’ll get all of the comments with his name in it.
They won’t all be the jokes but the vast majority will be.
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That will miss all the jokes that call him “Wellfed”! Better search that too.
Truculence...starting 10/1/09
also add ‘fat’ ‘vancouver’
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine would be “1994”, over and over, or “I’m sorry, could you repeat that? I was too busy mentally reviewing all of the Leaf’s Cup wins.”
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
Did You Know?
That despite the fact the Leafs absolutely sucked en route to ten straight sub-.500 seasons (1980-81 to 1988-89), the Canucks had 15 straight (1977-78 to 1991-92) before, after and during that span?
Other than one fluke run in 1982, they didn’t amount to anything in the postseason, either.
And, we had Harold Ballard; what was their excuse? Just sayin.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops.
1977-78 to 1990-91. Sorry. Still pathetic, though.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
the 15 straight losing seasons really gets me, too. That’s pathetic.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention
If they had to face the top 4 teams in their conference, as well as the top team in the other conference, they’d probably have no wins, either, the way they’ve been playing.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they've
faced calgary twice, and played the Oilers and Wild and Avalanche. Their only win there was the Wild.
The only eastern team they’ve played so far is the Habs, I think.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Their three wins
have been against: Dallas (in a shootout after losing the lead in the last minute), Montreal and Minnesota.
Teams that are collectively 6-12-3.
They’ve lost to: Calgary (x2), Edmonton, Colorado, Columbus.
Teams that are collectively 22-7-3.
The Leafs seven losses have come to: NY Rangers (x2), Pittsburgh, Washington, Ottawa, Montreal, and Colorado.
Teams that are collectively 33-12-3. Subtract the OT loss to Montreal, that’s 30-7-3.
The more you know.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
damn
I read division instead of conference.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically
They both are competitive against bad teams, and crap against good teams.
Seems sort of logical.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
And because Vancouver’s opponents have been 28-19-6, compared to 33-12-3 for Toronto (.698 vs. .718), that’s probably helped cover up how bad they have been playing.
In other words, they really shouldn’t mock us, because if they had our schedule, they’d be lucky to have even two wins, let alone one.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops
Counted Dallas as one less loss, so their opponent record is actually 28-20-6, good for a .574 win percentage versus the .718
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What about me? Don’t forget Victoria. Someone has to be a beacon of sanity on this god forsaken Island.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously this guy doesn't even really watch the Leafs
or his botched metaphor for the amazing shot totals of Jason Blake would surely have been “it’s only a vanful of Keebler elves tossing their cookies middle-shelf where Momma hides the gin”.
"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy
by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Oct 21, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
heh
he wasn’t even commenting on shot totals but goal-scoring.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Shots can be a fuzzy statistic.
??
"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy
by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Oct 21, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
this whole reference is fuzzy
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Stats or Bad Stats
They’re all just stats.
I think the more indicative stat in regards to Detroit would be their goals against… not their goals for.
Or shots… for that matter.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Stanley Cups Won can be a fuzzy statistic. The Detroit Red Wings have, after a run of 4 Stanley Cups in 12 years, 13 Stanley Cup. That’s when it’s a good stat. The Toronto Maple Leafs have, after a glorious history, won 13 Stanley Cup. That’s when it’s a bad one.
Sometimes it indicates which team has the better history. Other times, it’s only indicative of a van full of bricklayers launching rocks at a goalie from the roadside.
Sorry, coudln’t think of a more tortured metaphor.
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by PPP on Oct 21, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Was this an article in reference to the fact that
Vancouver is 2nd in the NHL with shots on goal but only 11th in goals for?
I didn’t read the original article.
I guess the Canucks have a team (or short bus?) full of rock throwers laying bricks in front of a net?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Or was it
A hockey bag full of rocks they were going to trade in for bricks so they could build Luongo some sort of goal prevention device?
Stupid metaphors.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone catch the news on Savard and Gonchar
The East just got more interesting… Gonchar is out 4 to 6 weeks, and Savard is on IR with a broken foot.
Welcome back to the pack Pittsburgh, and say hello to injury problems when you’re already not playing that great Boston.
I’m pretty sure without Gonchar last year Pittsburgh was pretty average. Who knows how bad Boston will be without Savard AND no more Kessel.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
We’ll see with Pittsburgh. I only say this because Goligoski, for all intents and purposes, has taken over as their number one defenceman on the PP. I suppose the Pens will put a forward on the other D spot. Not saying Gonchar wasn’t a huge difference maker (very underrated for his defensive skills), but at least he’ll return in the middle of the season.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Yeah
4 to 6 weeks isn’t that long… but it still won’t help them. He plays 24 minutes a night. That’s more time for the other D to chew up, and another D man to fill in as the 6th man? More minutes means more pressure, and frankly most teams tend to be worse when they lose their top guy.
Goligoski might be their top PP guy but he still only plays 21 minutes a game as their 2nd highest minute eater. Letang is at 20 or so.
It means more minutes for Eaton and McKee, and I have no idea who their number 7 guy is.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Also I think Letang can cushion some of that blow
Boston should be more worried.
- guy – is it still Peter Taglianetti?
wasn't
Gonchar out for a while last season, too?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I thought
so as good as he is, I don’t think Pittsburgh will have a big fall off, although they did have Ryan Whitney last year to pick up some of the slack.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes Gonchar was out for a bunch last season
Like the entire season before February 14th.
Their record without him last year was 27-24-5 and they were 18-4-4 with him.
So far this season they are 8-1-0.
He’s fairly important to them.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
To put that a different way.
Since the beginning of last season they have a .527 point percentage without him, and a .743 points percentage with him.
That’s a decrease of 22% when he’s out of the lineup.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
I didn’t realize the disparity was that large… does the coaching change then get a bit more credit than is due for their turn around?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Quite possibly.
I think Gonchar’s affect on their PP might have had a large part in it. And his calming influence in the locker room.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
effect not affect.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and he's out
with a broken wrist… that might affect his shot when he gets back.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
His ability to move the puck and defensive game was really missed a lot on the Pens when he was gone. I just think that the Pens are better prepared this time with Goligoski being up with the team full-time. But yes, the Pens should see some negative effect with Gonchar out.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Goligoski was up full time last year
while Gonchar was down… he was the guy that replaced him offensively.
Then they sent him down to the AHL when Gonchar got back.
I admit he’s slightly more mature, but he isn’t Gonchar.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course not, but Goligoski improved defensively from the few games I’ve seen of him this year. As such, I think the Pens can absorb the loss of Gonchar better this year by committee. Letang will be asked to play a few more minutes along with Golgi. I think they’ll be fine, maybe not dominant, but fine.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
Well
They were fine last year…
I’m not saying they won’t be fine.
I’m saying they’ll come back to the pack a bit. Playing over .500 hockey isn’t a horrible thing, they just won’t be playing quite so great without him is all.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're asking about their 7th d man
I explored the depth charts on Faceoff.com and it’s either Martin Skoula, or Nate Guenin apparently.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick- trade Pittsburgh VanRyn, Blake and Exelby for Staal!
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
Pretty sure they say no to that.
It’s a month to a month and a half… not the rest of the year without Gonchar.
Exelby also wouldn’t make a big difference to them.
I think they’re more likely to try and cover up their holes internally.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve, I was doing my best intention of an MLHS commenter. I failed, obviously.
P.S. I haven’t been able to follow links to or sign in to your blog pages for weeks now. Surely there has to be a simple solution. I’m using fully updated Firefox, btw.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
I'll mention it to David
I don’t actually maintain the server, but you aren’t the first one to have such issues. Hell I’ve had the same problem from my workplace in the past… makes it hard to do updates and such when I should be doing my job.
I’ll let him know, and in the meantime suggest that you clear the internet history/cache and wipe out all the cookies in case that’s screwing it up somehow.
Either way, I’m not 100% sure it’ll be resolved, but I’ll look into it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, I auto-clear cache and cookies every time I close Firefox. And we’ve talked about this before, it just keeps happening. Every once in a while I get through, which is even stranger.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Wellwood
Isn’t ironic that when he was a tub of goo last season he put some goals up in the early going. And then this year – despite claiming to not have been fat previously – he busts his ass to show up in good shape, and has a whopping 1 assist in 8 games?
did you see
the end of the Oilers/Canucks game?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It took me a while to find it, Karina, but it was classic.
If only I hadn’t eaten that gallon of icecream during the 2nd intermission, I might’ve had the speed to score in time!
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
niiiiiiiiiice
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
John Mitchell
Had more points last year (29 to 27). Honest to god, John Mitchell.
When you are offensively as productive as John Mitchell, you suck. Plus, from him we get about the same defensive skill. But, only a fraction of the salary and food expenses!
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wellwood was cash money on faceoffs though.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
until
this year when they’ve instituted a new rule that seems to have made him suck at them again.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey now, Mitchell is our second best faceoff guy at 50%.
Two people on this team with faceoff s over 50. Awesome.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Antropov sucked at them last year
Moore was pretty good at 54%…
we didn’t really lose much in the faceoff department other than that though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Grabovski
Seems to have fallen victim to the Wellwood Clause.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s because no one has explained to him that faceoff puck=pineapple.
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by kidkawartha on Oct 21, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Freeze a doughnut and use it as a puck… he’ll chase that shit down like nobody’s business.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 21, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrew Ebbett went on Waivers from Anaheim
and Chicago picked him up?
Curious as to why the Leafs wouldn’t take a flyer on him… he was a Burke prospect after all.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Oh and the Ducks recalled Pogge
in an effort to shake things up after their bad start ….
Anyone else finding that hilarious?
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They recalled him
FROM THE ECHL… wtf????
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
they have
no AHL affilliate
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
They sent him to San Antonio, but the Coyotes have two prospect goalies there, and didn’t want to give him ice time over them., so he had to go to the AHL
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
ECHL you mean
but ok that makes sense.
The weirder piece is, the Ducks were using the Marlies for some of their AHL players, Mikkelsen specifically I think. Would have been funny if Pogge had ended up there again.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
no AHL affiliate
and the Ducks couldn’t find him a team in the AHL that would give him the ice time, so he went to the Ducks ECHL affiliate.
I think someone here posted that before…
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Stalk me here...
by blurr1974 on Oct 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
must have missed it
out of sight out of mind I suppose.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pogge
I find hilarious.
My guess on Ebbet is that we already have enough small, offensive centers.
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
also
did you see that Nylander has been sent to the AHL for a conditioning stint?
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He's old
so he probably needs it.
Speak of old, I’m doing some crazy analysis by tracking every NHL player since the 1997-98 season by age and production… it’s taking a while though.
I’m basically trying to get some data that supports the idea that Burke is trying to have a team come together in 2 or 3 years of 24-25 year olds that are all hitting their prime around the same time. If he can get it to work it should be a beautiful thing.
But yeah I want data to back that up…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
of course he needs it
but he ain’t gettin’ it to be called up to the Caps, is he?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it
But it saves him being put on waivers, and if someone gets injured it keeps him from idling for too long so he can step into the void comfortably.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
how many
of these conditioning stints can he do? Either they think someone’s getting injured in the next two weeks, or someone’s interested, I think.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Injuries are starting to crop up
They always do after about 10 games… just sort of inevitable that someone will go down.
Who would be interested in Nylander at this stage of his career?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
no clue
just seems a curious thing to do.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the only way they can get an older guy some games
without putting him on waivers.
The fact that they didn’t indicates to me that they still value him as an asset. I think if there was a trade to be made, it would be made whether or not he had a conditioning stint.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Oct 21, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
Puck Daddy inferred that someone may have expressed interest, but wants him to play a bit before they deal.
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering that on Friday. :\
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Wait.....this is the same Vancouver Province that...
posted an article with those shitty Leafs jokes this past week right?
If so, that shows the credibility of these Vancouverites.
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im waiting for them to start calling me and hanging up as soon as i answer, just like the last crazy girl that was obsessed with me
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 21, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah...
be like “Hello, Fuck You” to them and such… :D
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 21, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like Jared is suggesting Canuck fans want to get into his pants.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
who doesnt?
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 21, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
/raises hand
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
your married, you dont count
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 21, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
where’s Mabel?
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because there's a goalie
Doesn’t mean you can’t score.
We’re Leaf fans; we should know.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
boyfriends are a goalie, husbands are a meat wall
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 21, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Any hockey fan I've dated
Has been a Canucks fan.
It makes me feel a little dirty on the inside. And not the good kind.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
are you
judging me?
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
phew
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You're Only Judged
If they convert you to their team.
I got my ex to wear Leaf gear to a Leafs game once (against the Oilers). I won that one.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
we’re locked in a battle on that one.
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That just sucks
I can hoestly say I’ve never really personally known anyone who’s a canucks fan, other than some random planner at my summer job. Then again, I’ve never been to Vancouver.
I'm not even supposed to be here today..!
Isn't It Also Funny
How a group of people complaining about how much the Leafs are on HNIC have media that devote so much ink to discussing our team?
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ive said it before and ill say it again, the colours fans of other canadian teams wear mean nothing, all that matters is that they hate the leafs more
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 21, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
The Sens and Habs have legitimate rivalry excuses. And Alberta just hates Ontario and Toronto for political reasons.
The Canucks have had one playoff series against the Leafs ever. And Vancouver isn’t different from Toronto at all politically. So they’re just an epic fail.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 21, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They're just bitter that
no one outside Vancouver gives two shits about the Canucks.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 21, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
there's a lot
of canuck fans in Calgary.
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by Karina on Oct 21, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
calgary is just as bad
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 21, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me correct my self:
No one outside of Vancouver (or Calgary/Edmonton) gives two goddamn craps about the Canucks.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 21, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
calgary is just as bad worse
fixed.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Oct 21, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Headline from the Vancouver Sun
Canucks Game Day: Expect a traffic jam in front of Luongo
What’s with all of the lame-ass traffic metaphors?
I'm not even supposed to be here today..!
Zapp Brannigan, copy editor. Checkmate!
by LeafFanInVan on Oct 21, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=694908
I lol’d
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Awesome
Note to Vancouver fans: This thread is in no way, shape, or form “tampering”.
Although he should warn Mike Gillis too
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I apologize for this
And so late, but I’m just a contrarian at heart I suppose.
Firstly, according to the NHL the Leafs scored 244 regular season goals in 2008-09, not 250. Likewise, Vancouver scored 243, not 246 – a difference of one goal.
I also think it’s worth mentioning that Vancouver scored one fewer goal while shooting 268 fewer times then Toronto, meaning they had a much better shooting percentage.
In fact, Toronto’s team shooting percentage was 9.37%, good for 18th in the league. Vancouver’s was 10.41%, good for 5th in the league. The high end of the percentages was the Bruins’10.88%, and the low end was the Rangers’ 7.52%.
So, perhaps when we examine the numbers we see what the author was getting at, even if we don’t like it? That maybe even though the Leafs shoot a lot, and seem to score a lot, they don’t necessarily have the scoring prowess of, oh say, teams like Detroit and Vancouver?
Hell, Detroit’s team shooting percentage was .38 higher then Toronto’s even when firing 362 more shots then Toronto.
I’m just saying.
Dr. Steve – I’m sure you’ll have something to say about this :)
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by Pamplemousse on Oct 22, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions
/everyone’s thoughts
“Hey, can that guy be brief about anything? God!”
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by Pamplemousse on Oct 22, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
The above total must count shootout winners.
So he had a point but it’s not at all the one he made and he still made a ridiculously bad metaphor?
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Ah
Forgot about shootout winners.
I dunno, I think he did make his point, but yeah, that metaphor was indeed tortured.
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by Pamplemousse on Oct 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually his point was stupid to begin with
Forget the Toronto/Vancouver comparisons. This is what he said:
“Statistics are good when they confirm what you already know to be true. The exact same statistics are bad when they confirm what you already know to be untrue.”
There’s no way to spin that into an intelligent point.
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by Back In Black on Oct 22, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Vanstupid
I just moved to Vancouver about 8 months ago, they love to bash the leafs for not winning in 43 years, and always forget they haven’t won one yet. I’ll be at the game on Saturday in my Toronto St. Pats jersey taunting Kyle fatty fat fat wellfed and cheering on the ole blue and white as if I were back east at the acc. The best part is there is probably going to be as many leaf
fans as Vancouver fans…….and that is why they hate us leafers so.
by blueandwhite89 on Oct 22, 2009 3:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'll be there
I’m more excited for this game than Wellwood at the all-you-can-eat buffet.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 22, 2009 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Prediction: there will be complaints about the fact that it is an afternoon game in order appease the pro-Leaf CBC. To be honest, I would rather it was the late game—kind of nice to change it up a bit. That way I can have dinner with my friends and then watch the game when the leave…oh, except I have PVR anyway so it doesn’t matter. And actually it is more fun this way to hear the Vancouverites whine.
Are we getting the first win Saturday? I feel it comin’!!!
by Leaf in Habland on Oct 22, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
havent you heard?
Were going 0-82 this year
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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
0-81-1 you mean
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 22, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
ah, sorry.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Oct 22, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm Not Happy About the 4 PM Start
Because they are a bit inconvenient out here. But am I going to go on and whine about how the CBC loves Toronto? No.
Yes, the CBC wants to appease the biggest market in Canada for ratings. Is it fair? No. But life (and TV) aren’t fair. Suck it up, princesses.
by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 22, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I love 4pm starts. Gives me an excuse to knock off my saturday chores early.
I didn’t like it living out east and having to stay up til past midnight to watch the later game finish.
by LeafFanInVan on Oct 22, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
is there anyone here who doesnt hate vancouver as much as vancouver hates toronto?
i honestly care about what vancouver does just as much as i care about edmonton.
hmm, I see your point, by acknowledging their dumbassery, we are acknowledging them. Giving them just what they want….
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 23, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
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