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I know I cheer for the blue and white, but isn't this a little excessive? A "shove?" Really....?

Looks like Colin Campbell's random wheel of justice is out for another spin.

No link yet, but it was just reported on Hockey Central (Vs.) that Orr will not be suspended.

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eh, Grabbo kicking the helmet seemed sketchy to me too, but i understand that they can’t tolerate anything that would seem like a slight against an official, so….
whatever.

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by Karina on Oct 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly, if the ref made such a big deal out of it he would have been out of the game. He wasn’t even looking at him when he made contact so let’s hope the NHL doesn’t act like a bunch of idiots…oh wait.

by Clawson on Oct 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

This feels like the Cujo/McGeough incident… it will probably largely depend on the official’s report. He looked like he was off-balance, but if they decide Orr was too rough and he gets three games I wouldn’t really have a problem with it.

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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

my understanding was everything relies on how the official feels about what happened… we’ll see. It’s hard to argue.

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by Karina on Oct 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

only thing the ref hurt was his pride

he lost his balance, and in the replay, Orr doesn’t shove his arm into the ref, it’s held out, and the ref hits it, then skates back and appears to trip over a helmet.

all that said, i’d not be surprised in the least if a suspension was forthcoming.

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by blurr1974 on Oct 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

 the helmet played a part in it. If it wasn’t there the linesman wouldn’t of tripped over it. Suspend Orr’s helmet.

by 6rick6 on Oct 27, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if the linesman didnt fall, there would still be the issue of intentional contact

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 27, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is

Orr"s holding off the linesman regardless of him tripping over himself, any worse than when guys are still fighting or fighting to get to one another and a ref inserts himself between them?

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by BlueBuds on Oct 27, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

because he initiated the contact, it wast the linesman getting in the middle of the fight

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

contact is contact

I think its a worse offense if a ref is between two guys and someone is throwing punches over the ref trying to hit the other guy. Not only is it dumb but its clearly reckless and dangerous.

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by BlueBuds on Oct 27, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. You see that quite a bit.

It’s ironic ‘cause Orr was trying to keep the linesman out of harm’s way, rather then just throw punches over top of him with complete disregard for presence.

Seriously, if the linesman had better balance or approached it with his partner in a better manner, it doesn’t hapen. When Jansen and Belak fought, Jansen waved off the linesman and they didn’t skate their chests into the palm of his hand and then fall backwards.

by general borschevsky on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the more I think about it this really needs to be a three game suspension.

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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 27, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, as the rule stats thats how it should fall

not that im gonna complain if he gets nothing

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda expected this to happen, unfortunately.

It’s hard to have a gray area when it comes to player/ref contact like that. Although considering every other rule in the NHL is a gray area…

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by mauvais gardien de but on Oct 27, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess this means Rosehill slots back in?

As long as Mayers doesnt get back in im fine

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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever, if it makes the refs feel better. One game or a fine is good

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by LeafFan1989 on Oct 27, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Who was the official?

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by John Fontana on Oct 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t like this. Orr and Parros were still going strong in their fight; they weren’t tangled up or hugging it out, and that linesman started coming in to break them up. Orr basically told him to stay out of it, and unfortunately when a 6’4" enforcer pushes a smaller linesman, he went down.

Imagine if Orr hadn’t pushed him away and Parros sent a punch at Orr that caught the linesman square on the jar. That would have been terrible.

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by SkinnyFish on Oct 27, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

it would be like a little girl riding her tricycle out into traffic

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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ORR WAS TRYING TO PROTECT HIM

by general borschevsky on Oct 27, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHEEL. OF. DISCIPLINE.

Anyone else feel Colie Campbell just picks a number out of a hat when determining supplementary discipline for any in-game incidents?

That said, there isn’t nor should there be any wiggle room when it comes to abuse of officials. I didn’t get a good look at the incident, but if it is deemed worthy of an automatic suspension, oh well.

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by stucky on Oct 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

pff

the ref should get suspended for trying to break up an epic battle too early

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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fight in question via hockeyfights.com

Fastforward to 1:00 in to see the referee push.

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by SkinnyFish on Oct 27, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it was more of a stiff arm than a push

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 27, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orr is probably about 25x stronger than that ref as well

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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

no. he definitely extends the arm to push him away.

by birky on Oct 27, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didn’t trip on the helmet either. you can see the helmet about a foot away from him as he’s being pushed.

by birky on Oct 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, but a push implies the official was closer and was moved to farther by the arm
to me it looks like orr extended his arm to block the ref from coming in

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 27, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno. If you look closely at the video, you can see orr give him the push. i don’t think Orr was trying to knock him over, but he was definitely pushing him away from the scrap. He just happened to put too much force behind the shove.

by birky on Oct 27, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My understanding is that when it comes to abuse of officials, the options for a suspension length are zero (no foul), three (minor/incidental) or ten games (intent to injure). I’m not sure Campbell has much discretion here.

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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 27, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone see the Vikings/Steelers game on sunday? An official got absolutely leveled on a punt return. Accidental probably, but I still find it strange there wasn’t some talk of penalty for the guy who ran into him.

by Its Cold In Here on Oct 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i don’t think it was intentional but I really have no clue when it comes to suspensions.

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by Chemmy on Oct 27, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

you sound like you play for team iceland

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by Matt_Roberts on Oct 27, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by 6rick6 on Oct 27, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the league has a no tolerance deal with contacting an official during a game, but I think it’s all up to the report the crew gave post game. I think the rule is 3 games, which would be disappointing for a minor shove

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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 27, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

They were talking to Parros during the first about the fight and he said, “And then Orr pushed the ref, that was pretty funny.” So at least George liked it.

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by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

My first thought was to laugh, my second though was “oh shit, he is in trouble”.

I actually Like Orr, however, shoving or even touching a ref in a negative way is up there with pushing or running a goalie; you just don’t do it. If you do there is going to be consequences. I guess he REALLY wanted to fight parros.

by cr0wat on Oct 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta show the big boss (Burke) that you’re at least as good as the last guy he employed in your position…

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by Karina on Oct 27, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from the hilarious Falling Ref incident, these staged fights are starting to get boring…

by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Well it’s a good thing that last nights game had something happen after practically every whistle in the third.

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by JohnnyG on Oct 27, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that game was excellent. Only one word can match the intensity, Truculence.

by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 27, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes a statement

There was a lot of chirping going on last night. Fights like that one pretty much says, " Hey ! I dont give a fuck who’s face I’m gonna have to smash up to shut you bitches up so I’ll beat up your toughest and work my way down, ok??"

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by BlueBuds on Oct 27, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that fight came early in the game, way before the chirping started.

I love fighting in hockey but only when its for a purpose (i.e. dirty hit, revenge, etc.).

by PassivelyTruculent on Oct 27, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is only a spendable offense if you agree that Linesmen have souls

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 27, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

The fight was clearly not over yet, they weren’t hugging and punches were being thrown. I think it’s the linesman’s own damn fault that he tried to move into a fight that was still alive. That being said, Orr probably shouldn’t have stuck his arm out. I don’t think he intended to knock the ref over and the helmet clearly was a part of it. If I was Campbell I wouldn’t give out a suspension.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 27, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t read someone’s thoughts, but his body language suggested to me that he meant to hold his arm out as a “don’t stop it yet” gesture…

Unfortunately he was distracted by the Parrostache and misjudged his distance to the Linesman.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Oct 27, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Parrostache and White-stache had a fight the world as we know it might end.

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by stucky on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uhm...

Corey Perry should be suspended just for being a douche bag :P

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 27, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I do kind of like Corey Perry as a player despite his douchebag-ish tendencies.

And no, I didn’t suffer head trauma as a child… that I know of. :P

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by stucky on Oct 28, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a good player and a great agitator, but yeah the guy is a total douchebag. I remember a clip from the Detroit-Anaheim series last spring where Perry was telling Datsyuk to warn Samuelsson that he was going to get it.
Video here
Douche

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by SkinnyFish on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Double douche. “Hey Pavel, you better tell him, you’re gonna get it too.” God, that reminds me of threats on the playground in grade three (and the ensuing melees where everyone jumped in).

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by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

PPP is alive, he emailed me to say he has the flu. So, I didn’t kill him.

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by Chemmy on Oct 27, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Or, you did kill him and are using the flu to cover your tracks.
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by kidkawartha on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

good to hear

H1N1 flu?

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by Karina on Oct 27, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also just in

no baconitis for me!

just “some other bug that’s going around.” Had I known medical diagnosis could be so vague, I’d be a doctor…

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by blurr1974 on Oct 27, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is…I’ve got some bug…head colds suck

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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats

on avoiding the swine flu!

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by Karina on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

baconitis

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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 27, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just in

NO SUSPENSION.

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by blurr1974 on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

that’s good news…now who will he fight on the Stars?

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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ribeiro?

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by blurr1974 on Oct 27, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’d turtle faster than claude lemieux

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by blindfolded tank driver on Oct 27, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

yeah Ribeiro would soil himself if Orr even looked in his general direction.

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by stucky on Oct 28, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was just announced on Hockey Central

which is the leagues official media mouthpiece, so I’m fairly certain it’s on the up and up.

still trying to locate a link to confirm.

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by blurr1974 on Oct 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now let all the Leaf-hating trolls bring on their comments of “The league loves the Leafs and wouldn’t suspend one of their darling thugs even after he beat the shit out of an official.”

-Graham-

by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 27, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll find 'em

Just tell me who and where these bastards are. :D

by Marc Pilgrim on Oct 28, 2009 2:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Look at the comments on any article dealing with the Leafs on the CBC website. Guaranteed 99.8% troll content by volume. Even articles that have nothing to do with the Leafs are starting to get the troll comments going.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess this wasn’t shown enough times on Sportscenter to warrant a suspension.

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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 27, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

I’m glad Colin Campbell came to his senses. Cam Janssen pushes the linesmen away on almost every fight and he never gets penalized.

by Rock Outta SoCal on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

As mentioned above, a lot of the ruling probably depends on the ref’s or linesman’s report of the on ice incident. If the Linesman felt it was accidental or it was his own fault then I can see the reasoning behind the call.

Personally I could see the call going either which way and I wouldn’t really get upset it.

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by JohnnyG on Oct 28, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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