Today's' FTB is a One Question Exam: Leafs < Good.
by blurr1974 on Oct 7, 2009 5:15 AM EDT
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PrintWe'll also need to show our work. What we do know about last night is we had one guy making cross crease passes like you won't believe. We had disinterested forwards, inept defensemen and one goalie who played his way into Saturday at the least. Let's see how the arith-a-ma-tic shakes out...
[(Forwards - truculence) + (defense - belligerence)] * (All-Star D-man + good goaltending) = last night?
Well now, that doesn't look right. Oh well, math was never my strong suit. Maybe someone else can come up with the answers in the links. But I'll save you the trouble. There are no answers, except, it's only the third game...
In what I can only assume will be a regular occurrence on week day games, the posts are a plethora of recaps.
- Rob from StraightOuttaSocal gives a recap worthy of my voracious reading appetite. That is, short and to the point.
- TSM went to the game and noticed the Leafs were missing one very important piece: a starting pitcher.
- Leaf and Lion foregoes the recap and instead writes the Leafs a rock opera (with a little help from Freddy Mercury and the boys in Queen.) I wish they played more like the song.
- Leafs247 shares the noteworthy happenings from last night.
- MLHS gives you the good, the bad and the ugly.
- Norman James has only one wish for Saturday.
- Greatest Hockey Legends has the story of a young Leafs draft pick who never lived up to the hype after making the team straight out of junior.
- TML Central gives a player by player account from last night.
- In case you didn't have the time to wade through the 700+ comments of the post game thread, the Hockey News has the quotes from coach Ron Wilson's post game presser.
- Bloge Salming has a new video showing Pierre McGuire's inner thoughts.
- Truculeafs has the game in pictures.
- In a completely unrelated note, this storm chaser's blog is one of my favorite spots on the internet. Enjoy pictures from the Big Storm Picture. Most of them remind me of what I'm sure Ron Wilson's office looks like after games like last night.
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I was up late last night. My wife wanted to “talk” after the game because we’re not doing enough “talking” lately. So I didn’t get much “sleep”.
by general borschevsky on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Missed the game? Looking for a blow-by-blow account of every minute of the action?
Probably not, but the BoOBbB is there anyways.
by general borschevsky on Oct 7, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions
Wow. Leafs had no jump last night. Overall, I thought the D did a much better job in their positional play, except for Schenn letting Michalek go right by him on that breakaway. The passing in the back end, however, wasn’t very good. They had several turnovers due to sloppy d-to-d passing. Schenn has to play better.
The forwards had no zip. The passing was mediocre and puck control in the offensive zone even worse. Very underwhelming.
The Monster was very good. He didn’t face a lot of tough shots, but his positioning was sound and did a good job of pushing rebounds into the corners. He is playing too deep in his net on breakaways/penalty shots, but that’s correctable. He has now let in 5 goals, 2 after being knocked down by his own teammate and 3 on breakaways.
One thing I noticed about last night’s game was that at times it seemed like a funeral. The ACC was DEAD. Now I know the ACC isn’t exactly the best example of crowd noise but I don’t remember it being that noticibly quiet in a long while. I know the Leafs play (especially in the second) didn’t warrant for much cheering but I’m sure they feed off of the Go Leafs Go chants.
The only way to fix this would be to give out free t-shirt during the play because people seem to make a shitload of noise for those.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Oct 7, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions
even the alfie boos were half assed and embarrassing
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he gets booed louder when the Leafs go to Ottawa then he did last night :(
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the more I think about it the more it pisses me off.
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, at times I was wondering if we stopped booing Alfie because I couldn’t even hear it.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Oct 7, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I was at the game last night. Seemed like people forgot to boo Alfredsson until after he scored on the penalty-shot and even then it was half-hearted. The crowd wasn’t great, but it wasn’t a great game. There was no emotion on the ice from the players. Not a lot of big time hits (if any).
The other thing that seems to kill the crowd is all the frickin’ advertising and promotion between every stoppage in play. Kills the energy and atmosphere of the crowd. Then they treat us like sheep by telling us to “see how loud you can be!” for 30 pointless seconds and then they start advertising at us again. Eventually you tune it out, but in a slow, boring game, it also beats you into submissive silence.
Fuck people’s greed. It ruins everything. There’s no respect for the quality of entertainment anymore.
by general borschevsky on Oct 7, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
did anyone catch the alleged Burke tampering incident? the media outlets arnt exactly forthcoming with details beyond “burke discussed a trade involving Bieska, Burrows and the 28th over all for the 2nd over all”
Also does anyone remember this being discussed around draft time at all by anyone where it might have actually been tampering?
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It wasn’t released at draft time, It was released on a Behind the Draft special that aired on Leafs TV just before the season started.
Yes thats right. A comment that Burke made about a 2nd hand alledged rumour that was aired on TV 3 months after the fact when the trade obviously didn’t happen is tampering.
The rumour didn’t even involve the Leafs! Friggin whiny Canucks.
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Id like to see the CBA definition of tampering, but i cannot find it
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
The only mention of tampering in the CBA:
Found under EXHIBIT 1: Standard Player’s Contract; Section 10
The Player agrees he will not tamper with or enter into negotiations with any Player under SPC or reservation to any Club of the League for or regarding such Player’s current or future services, without the written consent of the Club with which such Player is connected under penalty of a fine to be imposed by the Commissioner of the League.
So this tampering is just for the player. I believe any tampering definitions for teams would be found in the league’s bylaws.
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Tampering
Tampering and penalties for tampering are laid out in section 15 of the NHL By-laws. My pdf copy is a bad scan from the Phoenix court case so I can’t cut and paste. I’ll try to put up a fan shot later today…
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Just a follow-up to those links – Tampering is section 15 and starts on page 46.
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This is Gillis’ attempt at a “shot across the bow”. He’s still pissed about Burke being in Sweden at the start of free agency and seems to be convinced Burke was talking with the Sedins. This is the 3rd time in 3 months Gillis has discussed tampering charges against the Leafs.
The one where Wilson mentioned the Sedins on Prime Time Sports I could almost see. I mean you specifically mention the players and say you would love to have them on your team, That can be viewed that way. But in no way shape or form can I make heads or tails out of this one
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I don’t think mentioning guys you’d love to have on your team is tampering. Gillis says himself in the article on TSN that he doesn’t think anything will come of the charges. It’s a bit of a joke.
Gillis is a fucking joke
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well yeah, it is a loose view of in anycase. I just mean I could see it since you specifically named players.
I.E The Sedins in talks with the Canucks could say something along the lines of give us this because if you don’t we know the Leafs are interested.
Again it is a loose argument but I can at least see that one. This one about the trade RUMOUR is damn near invisible.
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here is the best article on the “tampering” i can find
Burke talking to HIS scouts about moving up, mentions that it could be difficult because there is a rumour going around vancouver wants the 2nd over all for whatever.
gillis denies this, calls it silly and that anyone who believes that is lacking common sense
can you tamper with something that wasnt going to happen in the first place?
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
They are accusing him of doing it to cause disrupt in the Canucks dressing room.
Yeeeeees… the master plan is all coming together. We shall make a rumour behind close doors that might air on a special 3 months down the road when the rumours are no longer relevant….. That will cause disrupt in the locker room and cause their downfall! Mwhahahaha
I mean if this was actually the train of thought then… well…. that is just awesome.
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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
too be fair, it seems to be working
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The controversy isn’t that Burke said it. It’s that as team President, he let that discussion be heard in the public light. Now I’m not saying it’s tampering, but perhaps they should have cut that section out of the video.
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yeah, that part shouldnt have made the final cut at all, and the management should have exercised better discretion in the editing room.
It was irrisponsible and not all that bright, but if there is no intent, I don’t see how its tampering.
Unless there is some information about Burke saying something like “yeah, put that in there, its good stuff” while ringing his hands all evil villain like.
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it meets the by-laws definition of tampering – I just don’t see it resulting in anything more than fine due to the timing. It only went public long after the deal was made.
By this measure, Burke should have been charged with tampering when he wrote his trade-day diary for USA Today back when he was GM of ANA. In that piece he talked very openly about who was on offer from several GMs and the prices being disucssed.
Just like this incident, Burke’s comments came out after the fact, but he still discussed players under contract with other teams publicly.
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from what i gather, Burke wasnt even talking to the camera, and it was a piss poor editing job.
I don’t see intent
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 7, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
the difference is
he’s now the Leafs GM, so when he says things, people pay attention.
they pay attention because they want a shot at the cash pinata that is MLSE.
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by blurr1974 on Oct 7, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
also
Burke left Vancouver on bad terms, there was a huge ownership struggle and he was loyal to the losing side.
Apparently, Aquilini, the current owner, did not take kindly to that, and holds a grudge.
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by Karina on Oct 7, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Honest question: if it’s “tampering” to publicly float a trade rumor, what will happen if/when it’s revealed that Burke is almost certainly one of Eklund’s main sources?
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by Down Goes Brown on Oct 7, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
interesting
In the extension Lucic signed yesterday, there is a $1 mill signing bonus which is basically insurance against a lockout.
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by Karina on Oct 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
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