Maple Leafs 4 v. Canadiens 5 (SO): Moral Victories Are Overrated
Moral victories are great and all but it sure would be good to rack up some actual victories. The Leafs played a good road game but were once again torpedoed by the man in the toothy mask. Since it's not Halloween we can dispense with the horror metaphors but the thought of Vesa Toskala playing anymore games is playing the role of the quiet figure in the shadows ready to rip out the Leafs' hearts. Ok, so I lied. Either way, the blame for the first goal resides solely with Toskala. Allowing that goal after the Leafs' had finally picked up the first goal of the game is inexcusable. The second could have been averted if Toskala has just frozen the dribbling puck rather than push it gently into the slot for the Canadiens to score.
Not that there wasn't some good to come out of the game. Mike Komisarek had an impactful game. He blocked eight shots, laid six hits (including the one below), and if not for being on the ice for two of Toskala's boneheaded plays he would have only been -1. It's not as good as it should be but it's getting much closer to what Burke expected when he signed him as a UFA.
Tomas Kaberle continued his ridiculous run of late with the game-tying goal with less than a minute left in the game and three more assists.
He's been the guiding hand on the powerplay but that influence is sometimes clearly a problem. The best examples came on a couple of powerplay opportunities where the team stood around waiting for Kaberle to get open so that he could carry the puck out of the Leafs' zone.
Alexei Ponikarovsky potted a couple including the crowd silencer which gave us so many guffaws. He headlined a group of forwards, among them thankfully Jiri Tlusty, that have improved their play on the road trip. They were more aggressive as a group, pressured the puck more effectively, and finally began to crash the net to generate chances. There's still a long way to go as shown by being ranked 24th in the NHL in offence but as with so much else the indicators are trending upwards. What's needed now is quicker improvements and bigger leaps.
The Leafs' next five games offer the team a good chance of building on the 'success' of the road trip. Home games against Tampa Bay and Minnesota as well as a trip to the suddenly horrific Hurricanes are the kinds of games where efforts on par with the Leafs' previous five games should stand them in good stead. They need to receive better goaltending but they need to make sure that they don't think that they've actually accomplished anything. As for the match-ups against Detroit and Chicago, well, they'll provide memories of times when things were much worse (the 80s) and when they were much better (the 90s). Most importantly, they'll provide the Leafs' a measuring stick against two Western Conference contenders.
If they can get off to a good start with Phil Kessel in the line-up Tuesday (maybe) it could be the home ice confidence boost that they need to build on what they've done on the road trip. It's finally the time of the year that matters most and it's about time that the Leafs start picking up points in the most important ways: with wins.
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Moral victories are great and all but it sure would be good to rack up some actual victories.
"Sanity is not statistical." - George Orwell, a Leafs fan...
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by blurr1974 on Nov 1, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That.
“Moral victories” don’t count on the scoresheets. We need actual wins that matter.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that was last years mantra
this years is “we’ll compete for a playoff spot.”
at some point, the excuses stop…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
let's be realistic
the young team learning isn’t really an excuse so much as it needs to be reality.
I don’t think anyone is making excuses for the team not making the playoffs – they just don’t actually think it’s a realistic goal at this point. If they can make 80 to 85 points on the year, that’s an accomplishment for this outfit. If they can get their goals against into the mid level of the NHL that’d be an accomplishment.
If they somehow miraculously end up 10th in the league in goals for again… that’s an accomplishment.
They need to improve a lot – and they’re still not good enough to compete for the playoffs.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They need to improve a lot .
That’s my point precisely though Steve. Moral victories or not, there is tons of room for improvement, and I have been rather vocal in my disbelief of their ability to make the playoffs, that’s no secret. That said, if you’re going to talk like that’s your aspirations, maybe a little something to prove this belief would be nice…?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 1, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
but I don’t think many of us believe Phil Kessel is going to magically score 40 goals this season do we? Coming off of shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum and having zero training camp?
I’ll be happy if he gets 20 goals…
Oh and in reference to Rickard Wallin further down the board – when Kessel gets back, another more offensive player MAY drop to the 4th line on occasion, so it is possible he’ll get more offensive opportunities… but yeah… we’ll see if any of that pans out as the season progresses.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’ll be nice to play some bottom feeders for a change,
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We just played Montreal…
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by Chemmy on Nov 1, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok MORE bottom feeders
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 1, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Anaheim
is on that list already too.
TB, Carolina, and Minnesota are as bad as we’ll see for a while… the back to back against Detroit is already a loss in my mind. Chicago’s D kinda sucks in terms of Goals Against… they like to play shoot out run and gun sorta hockey, so that might give us a chance if the Monster can stand on his head.
Basically minimum 6 points out of a possible 10 for this to be considered an ok series of games. If they get 8 points that’s a great series. If they get 5 or less… they suck and changes need to be made already.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PPP, I am confused by the video you have linked to.
A body check was delivered in the middle of the ice, yet the victim was not immediately rushed to the nearest hospital.
Komisarek did not appear to use his elbow or his forearm when delivering the check. His arms were not spread out as far away from his torso as possible. He didn’t appear to jump into the check nor did he leave his feet afterwards.
As a fan in the “New” NHL, I am shocked and appalled by Komisarek’s actions. How dare he see an opponent in a vulnerable position and not take action to concuss, maim or otherwise attempt to end that person’s career, instead opting to deliver a textbook open-ice bodycheck. This has been an incredibly disorienting event, and I am quite frankly shocked at how I am supposed to react since there isn’t an ongiong message board flame war about whether this was a clean hit or not.
Thankfully, two Montreal players attempted to immediately initiate a fight for no reason, so I wasn’t completely lost.
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by clrkaitken on Nov 1, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
My thoughts exactly only you expressed them very, very brilliant. The video of this hit should be shown to every idiot who says: ïf headshots are banned then people will no longer do open ice hits" Here is a perfect example how such a hit can be done without the concussion.
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by Sid the captain on Nov 2, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone has seen John Mitchell, can you please tell him the season has started. Thank you. And if anyone has seen Vesa Toskala, can you make sure no one sees him again. Thank you.
by 6rick6 on Nov 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We should start a campaign for people to run their shopping carts into Toskala in the grocery store and purposely crash into his car.
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by Chemmy on Nov 1, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sign me up for shopping cart duty. I don’t own a car.
-Graham-
by CanadianMaple09 on Nov 1, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
waddaya bet
that when Toskala parks his car outside the grocery store he backs too far into the parking spot with his rear wheels beyond the line
"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy
by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Nov 1, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Ya, that’s rec’d.
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by kidkawartha on Nov 1, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 1, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and some kudos to Poni
for putting his bag ass regularly in front of the net on the PP. He had been in front for several of the recent goals without picking up a point so it was nice to see him get rewarded last night.
"I'd walk into the Leafs dressing room to get ready for the day and Harold would be there in his boxer shorts shaving. King Clancy would drop by a little later, play the fool, and then head off to the racetrack." John Brophy
by Mike Pelyk's Hairdo on Nov 1, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nobody
is crying about rickard wallin anymore. i think he had a great game last night. he seams very composed out there. and i can count several time where he stopped the forecheck of montreal at the blue line and started a good transition or change. aaaand hes tied for second on the team with a -1 and played as much games as anyone
by jmobes on Nov 1, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He’s got a little more than that to be worth the lineup spot. He’s not by any means void of offensive skill, and our third/fourth lines need to start putting in the percentage of points we need to break an OTL into a win.
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by kidkawartha on Nov 1, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is not our 3rd and 4th lines ...
It’s our top 2. Who are producing like 3rd and 4th lines.
We have 1 forward with 10 points… and 2 guys with over 5 goals. That’s pathetic frankly. Boston, and Buffalo are the only teams that’re obviously better than the Leafs that have fewer forwards with 10 points… and they’re a LOT better defensively so not that shocking.
St. Louis, Carolina, Phoenix, Nasvhille, and Calgary are the only teams in a comparable spot offensively… and I’m pretty sure Carolina, St Louis, and Calgary all possess more firepower than the Leafs over the course of the season.
Overall we need some top end offensive output from the likes of Ponikarovsky, Hagman, Grabovski, and Kessel longer term.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Steve, that’s another issue that I wasn’t addressing with talking about Wallin. HE has to step up his game- he was captain of the SEL champs, for God’s sake.
2008-09 Farjestads BK Karlstad SEL 55 18 27 45 56 13 1 4 5 8
Or are you suggesting that only our 1st and 2nd should be doing 100% of the scoring?
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by kidkawartha on Nov 1, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I am suggesting is
After 12 games we have 4 goals and 15 assists from our 3rd and 4th lines… which considering our record is not that bad frankly. Mainly as a result of Blake, Kulemin and Mitchell combining for 3 goals and 11 assists total so far this season. The fact that Wallin, Mayers, Rosehill, Orr, Bozak and Primeau have combined for 1 goal and 4 assists isn’t that shocking. They’re our 4th line for chrissakes.
After 12 games we have 21 goals and 19 assists from our 1st and 2nd lines, with Stålberg and Tlusty only adding in 1 assist so far total. Stajan, Stempniak, Ponikarovsky, Grabovski, and Hagman are doing most of the work, but is it really enough?
The Dallas Stars have gotten 32 goals and 47 assists from their top 2 lines by way of comparison. Their bottom two lines have gotten 11 goals and and 17 assists. That’s roughly comparable to our first and second line honestly. We need better production all around – but I think if our first and second lines are better, more opportunities will open up for the guys lower down the totem pole in the scoring department.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The ratio there is
3:1 on points for Dallas. For Toronto it’s 2 to 1… so in the end I’d say our top two lines need to add more offense than our bottom two lines.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and just so we have something to compare that SEL production to
Niko Dimitrakos
2005-2006 San Jose Sharks NHL 45 4 12 16 26
Philadelphia Flyers NHL 19 5 4 9 6
2008-2009 Skellefteå Elitserien 54 22 22 44 59
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wallin finished 10th in SEL scoring last year
Dimitrakos finished 11th. He also produced 25 points in 74 NHL games in 2005-06. If Wallin maintains his current pace – which means he’d get 14 points – then yes he’s a disappointment, but he’s playing on a much less offensively gifted team than the ones Dimitrakos was, and he’s playing on the 4th line… with Wayne Primeau and COLTON ORR… who have had close to zero points over the past few seasons.
Unless Wallin gets promoted to the 3rd line with the likes of Blake and Mitchell while Kulemin gets more time on the Grabovski and Poinkarovsky line, and Stajan and Stempniak play with Hagman… then yeah… I don’t see him getting a lot of points this year. That would also mean Stålberg or Tlusty or Bozak playing on a checking line… which is unlikely.
Wallin’s here for his defensive skills not his offense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Thanks for joining.
Yeah, I don’t know what people were expecting from Wallin. He’s basically delivered what he was brought to give to the team.
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by PPP on Nov 1, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I blame EA for giving him an 81 rating.
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by clrkaitken on Nov 1, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great point
I agree.
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by Archimedies on Nov 1, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s a GD sniper in that game, damn you EA for tempering our expectations
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 1, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the misspelled “KOMISAREK IS A TRAIT8R!” sign in the background of the picture. I laugh every time I see it. Clever of them to put the number “8” in there, but shouldn’t it be spelled “TR8OR”?
-Graham-
by CanadianMaple09 on Nov 1, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's Montreal...
where proper spelling is overshadowed by the Habs.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 1, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And perhaps
French?… not that that is much of an excuse in this case.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 1, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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