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by article1 on Nov 10, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Darcy Hordichuck’s beating up on Cam Janssen.

BREAK HIS FACE!!!

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by article1 on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

well at least im not this guy

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 10, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dear God.

At least we’re not as bad as the Bulgarian women’s hockey team.

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by article1 on Nov 10, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or the Vancouver Canucks tonight.

Man, they got killed. ;D

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, we know Komisarek’s presence is really important, and we still have some massive problems with a team full of millionaires who have “bad days” and “feel flat”.
Unacceptable.
At least there’s more evidence that Kessel is awesome.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

that 5-3 goal just killed any momentum they had (not that its an excuse) they just looked like they gave up, until it was 7 mins left in the game

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ya, I just don’t want to hear it. We’ve been so good on avoiding stupid penalties, then Orr really screws the pooch on that one. Also, although he gets props for courage, I was worried Boogard would just pound him into a fine paste. Holy cow he’s huge.
Poni, Kessel and the Monster are the only ones who really earned their paycheques tonight.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Orr’s penalty was stupid but harsh. That was barely a dust-up and those happen dozens of times without a penalty being called.

The Poni one was a backbreaker because (and please tell me if I am wrong) but from where I was seated I thought it was pretty clear that it went over the Leafs bench.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why does that "Delay of Game" penalty even exist.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Because the league wanted more easy penalties. Shooting the puck over the glass deliberately was not a problem before they installed it.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The way I see it

it’s pointless because accidental instances of putting it over the glass will get penalized.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah but sometimes the philly goalie will swat it away and it will go over the net and that’s awesome.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I see you're happy about tonight. :P

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Chuckling, and smiling, and such.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

>:0

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

3-0

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No, 3-1. Snes won in shootout.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ARGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

Damn SNES.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It was the score of the game I went to.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What’s your point? ;)

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

3-0 is my point. Crosby now has his longest pointless streak too, thanks to us. He has all kinds of memorable moments in Boston.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You sound like we did after Saturday night, CH. I wouldn’t put Pittsburgh down for any reason- they had a crappy start to the season last year too, remember?

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah I fully expected pittsburgh to stomp all over boston tonight. But Thomas played well enough for a shutout, and the Bruins apparently still remembered how to score, so I’m pretty happy right now.

Of course now florida’s going to hang 12 on us on thursday, but whatever.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If McCabe scores one, we’ll be even after this mess tonight.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Captain McCabe?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s the goof I’m talking about.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It still cleared the glass, just through the bench, which is how the rule is written.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Is it?

Dammit. I thought that if it went through the bench it didn’t matter.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If it lands in the bench it’s not a penalty but if it goes over the back glass it’s just as out as before. But it has to start in the defensive zone (I believe)

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Couldn’t remember if there was glad between the bench and the stands.
Also, I didn’t have a direct angle so guess it was a penalty.

Then, there’s two dumb penalties conspiring for a goal.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s what they said on the broadcast anyways. It still clears the glass.

When any player or goalkeeper, while in his defending zone, shoots the puck directly (non-deflected) out of the playing surface, except where there is no glass, a penalty shall be assessed for delaying the game. When the puck is shot into the players’ bench, the penalty will not apply. When the puck is shot over the glass ‘behind’ the players’ bench, the penalty will be assessed.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

going over the bench

is still a penalty if it clears the boards behind the bench.

going INTO the bench is not a penalty.

going over the sides of the bench is not a penalty.

going up and over the glass behind the bench = penalty.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Listen to me carve up Colton Orr's existence

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/11/10/1125474/explain-this-colton-orr-thing-to-me

I’m hard on him, but its because his million bucks a year would be better spent on building a huge mats sundin statue outside the ACC.

by TMLSiegeinVancouver on Nov 10, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Wilson should have either scratched Komo or dressed a 7th defenceman in case Komo wasn’t able to compete tonight – as he wasn’t.

by Belligerent Burkie on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good point. Beauchemin struggled again tonight with the fatigue and the changing partners. Beauchemin, make me love you again.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

playing with 5 D isn’t going to win you too many games. hopefully komo doesn’t suit up again until he can make it through the whole game. but we don’t play until friday, so he should be good by then……..hopefully

by Belligerent Burkie on Nov 11, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

beauchemin has been a huge dissapointment in my eyes, i expected him to be much more solid in his own zone and with the puck than he has. he seems to be handling the biscuit like its a grenade.

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 11, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kessel is awesome.

This game wasn’t.

That is all.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

So I missed the game

I take it things went the way we expect them to on Tuesday nights?

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by koopa kid on Nov 10, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think the team is permanently wedded to Murphy and his fucking law.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Fuck Murphy.

I want him and his law dead. I want his wife dead. I want his pets dead.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Lots of good cycling and puck pursuit but not many clear chances.
Lots of missing the net.
Long sluggish period after the score got to 4-1 until about 10 min into the third.
Two stupid breakdowns at 2-1 to make it 4-1.
Kessel hit the post at 2-1 on the PP and that was that.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

On the other hand, I can also see why the Wild are just staying afloat right now. They’re in that transition stage where they don’t know if they’re an offensive or defensive team. I see a lot of similarities with the Leafs in that Wild team right now.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The new coach of the wild has said that there’s a lot of stuff the guys who have been there a while learned from Lemaire that he might have to train them away from.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They looked like Lemaire’s dream once the score hit 4-1. Suffocating in the neutral zone.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Now watch Minny completely break down next game.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Against Tampa Bay? Yup.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

These things just have a way of happening.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jennings trophy what what

Is Burns still playing like shit?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

no

He played pretty well from what I noticed.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What about Kobasew? Did you notice him much?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

uhhhh

He’s on the Wild?

I don’t know the Wild very well. This was one of the rare games against the Western Conference that I have seen so I didn’t notice.

None of the Wild forwards were very good in the offensive zone but defensively they were all very good.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough, I just wonder about him is all.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Burns played better, but the entire Wild team is confused right now.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Brand new coach, brand new GM, first season without Gaborik – EVER. I believe it.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Their young guys have regressed this season, however. Koivu is getting exposed because guys like Pouilet (sp) and Sheppard are struggling massively.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think

Clutterbuck played an ok game… but they’re relying on Koivu and Brunette too much.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Except I don’t see Clutterbuck as their go-to guy. James Sheppard was a guy I really though would improve by leaps and bounds this season getting away from Lemaire’s system. But for one reason or another, he looks so lost.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Clutterbuck hits a lot and he has a killer name and the ladies think he’s cute, but I don’t think he’ll ever be go-to for scoring.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

…and the ladies think he’s cute

Well, that is an important trait to have in a hockey team. Can’t have them all look like Mike Ricci. Hopefully, Ricci isn’t a PPP regular. Don’t want him to cry, whilst eating a tub of ice cream.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Around here and other places, that seems to be an important trait for a player.

Eh?

The guy did lead the NHL in hits, right?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure did, not that that’s an objective stat or anything.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"Clutterbuck"

is a fun name to say.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I like it as a swear:

GODDAMMIT! THIS SITUATION IS AN ABSOLUTE CLUTTERBUCK

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Pouliot just kind of sucks. The Wild have misplayed their young guys a lot, bringing them up WAY too early for years. Good riddance to Doug Riseborough.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Doug MacLean was adamant on Hockeycentral, while talking to JFJ (hahahaha), about bringing young players up to the NHL too early and ruining their careers as BS. It was an argument of walking contradiction.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think those are two of the last guys I’d ask for advice.

Note: Mike Milbury is the absolutely last one.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It was just such a weird set-up having MacLean talk about how to bring up prospects and the importance of player development with another guest who equals his incompetence.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

One of those stupid breakdowns

was a result of the forwards being incapable of clearing the zone so they had to ice the damn thing so Schenn and Finger were stuck out there for eons… then Schenn was dead tired and missed a coverage…

Minnesota just out worked us when they had the PK and we had the PP, and they protected the front of the net better, and their goalie stopped everything.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

they protected the front of the net better, and their goalie stopped everything.

That’s about it. It looked like every Bruins-Leafs game I’ve seen in Toronto from 2005-2007. Bruins defending great and capitalising on mistakes.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or the Sabres

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Sabres attack a lot more though but yeah, defensively similar.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wilson should have taken the timeout after that icing, bad call on his part

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

shades of maurice

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 11, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oooh. Nice play Patrick Marleau.

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by article1 on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Patrick Marleau = MADE OF WIN

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good night everyone.

I’m all angered out.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Players that played decently tonight

Poni, Kulemin, Grabovski… White… ummm… running out of people to talk about.

I guess Gustavsson was ok.

Kessel scored… but other than that he didn’t do a whole hell of a lot.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry... but I fail to see

how Kessel scoring to make it 4-2 makes him awesome.

He didn’t score to make it 4-3… or 4-4… when the Leafs had a 2 man advantage in the final minute, which would actually have been awesome.

Scoring a meaningless goal in a 5-2 game doesn’t mean a lot to me.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

which I guess makes sense.

or else I wouldn’t call it meaningless.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn't 5-2 at that point...

It was only 5-2 after Owen “He Played For The Leafs? SRSLY?” Nolan scored that damn empty netter.

It was 4-2 when Kessel scored.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Umm

re-read what I typed… I said 4-2. The 5-2 was in the part about the final score.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Darn it.

Anger blinds judgement and such.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Steve does have a point in that it was too little, too late. The Leafs didn’t ramp up their play until after that Kessel goal.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thought they played really hard in the offensive zone but they didn’t really create great chances until that goal.

Hell of a pass by Finger though.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

Finger is under-rated. he’ll again look bad on that play where he and Schenn were stuck on the ice together, but that goal was Schenn’s missed coverage, and Finger had to cover the front of the net for him longer than he should have before following his man to the corner.

If I was Finger I’d want to smack Schenn upside the head a lot this season.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If I was Finger

I’d be doing that, whilst yelling at him.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair, Schenn was dog tired on that shift and he just didn’t have the energy. Wilson gambled by not calling a timeout there.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d want to cuff Kulemin. Kulemin had Koivu covered and let him waltz by him.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True

but Kulemin also played a lot harder than 99% of the Leafs forwards at both ends of the ice, so I’m not hanging the loss on him.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just saying

Finger hasn’t played that badly.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Me Neither

He played very good but unfortunately that blown coverage (and the lack of communication) as well as the failure to tie up any sticks on the 4th have been endemic since the lockout. This team cannot tie up a stick in front of the net to save their lives.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

they seem lost at times in their own zone… like many young teams.

It also doesn’t help when there’s a language barrier on the ice – communication that is.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

And the times I made it to the lower bowl last year they were not talking very loudly although I heard one guy yell at Gustavsson to leave the puck alone.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think that's why

Grabo, Poni, and Kulemin work well together… they can actually talk to eachother.

I seriously wonder about that at times… how badly it screws up line chemistry for the younger players.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like to see them put more effort

into rooming the Russian kids with North American kids… that might help the communication problems… does anyone know who rooms with who on the road?

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No idea

But it’s a good thought. Think it’s a team issue though because everyone on the back-end speaks English and most of our forwards.

Clearly Grabbo-Kulemin have issues though

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I know Antropov, when he was on the team last season, was their go-to translator.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

…although I heard one guy yell at Gustavsson to leave the puck alone.

Hah, that made me laugh.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It was sooooo loud.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not surprised. ACC looked half empty by the start of the third period.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah

The crowd was funnelling out with 10 minutes left, against with 4 minutes left, and was booing lustily when Kessel scored.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The home crowd booed a goal?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Reminded me of the Habs' "NA NA NA NA" silliiness.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No

They were in the middle of booing the team off of the ice and then Finger make a sick save and Kessel buried a goal and it turned into cheering.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why do that "Booing" stuff?

It doesn’t feel right, IMHO

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn’t feel right to me either.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Meh

You pay your money, they spend 15 minutes looking like they don’t care, you’re watching them slump to 1-5-2, I think it’s fine.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

A friend of mine at the game

said he’s never going to a game again…

this was after I told him the loss was the Lord’s punishment for his moustache.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What’s the matter, you love prostate cancer or something?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No

but his moustache is atrocious.

Plus I’ve grown my share, and I have done my share of cancer research supporting so I’m ok with saying that.

P.S. Ian White shaved his off… wtf is up with that?

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m going to two more games (paying for one) but after that I am not going back except on Saturday nights if I do at all.

It’s the only time they’re passion matches the crowd’s.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm going to one in Philly

I may make it to a few others in TO this season… but we shall see.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Personally

I’m not a fan of it.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Normally I don’t but sometimes I do. To each their own.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and the ramping up

didn’t actually accomplish anything… so yeah… I don’t think it was that awesome a goal. If he had scored it about oh… 30 minutes prior to that… it would have been much more awesome.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I just like looking for positives.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He hit the post so he was almost awesome but aside from that the breakaway was his first clearcut chance and he buried it.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And that's why I think

If Kessel scores 25 this year I’ll be happy.

He’s looked more and more tired with each game, and his chances have been less and less clear cut.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tiredness

I agree completely. He was sucking dirty pond water after a few eraly shifts.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought it was unfortunate that the Leafs finally managed to breakdown the Wild way too late. They were playing trap, but the forwards were playing way too far from the defencemen to even have a chance.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

which is admirable

I just don’t feel like being unrealistic about the team…

They need a power forward. They need a power forward. They need a power forward.

Oh… and Komisarek needs to come back and play because the D might suck without him.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Any suggestions on powerforwards?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Owen Nolan?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

HE'S OLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Also, who the f—-k is Owen Nolan?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He was the top goal scorer on his team last year.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He what?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He scored 25 goals playing for lemaire, which was good enough for most goals on the Wild last year.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Meh.

I just like blocking out memories that he played for us.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm

ok aside from Bruce Garrioch’s insistence we’re going to deal for Nathan Horton (which I actually like the idea of)…

I’m not a huge fan of the Frolov suggestions…

but honestly at this point I’d just call up Hanson.

Really what I’m waiting for is for the Leafs to have some injury problems up front.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Frolov isn’t even really that much of a power forward, so I’m not sure why people lump him in as a Nathan Horton. I, however, do like Frolov more than Horton at this point though.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

As a point producer

he is superior… but he isn’t a power forward… which is what we need… yet he keeps getting mentioned as being on his way out of LA.

Not sure he fits though.

I’d also look at some of the guys from St. Louis… David Backes would be alright.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I prefer your Hanson suggestion. Top rookie scorer in the AHL so far.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I approve of Hanson being called up.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

While I like that idea

I do think the Leafs could package multiple players up and do a 3 for 1 trade with St. Louis for Backes… that might be worth while for both teams.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m also very curious about St. Louis. They really are reeling from taking what looks like a step back this season.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve heard the coach sucks.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Heh.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True dat.

You can’t suddenly play desperate hockey with like 2:00 min to go.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I haven’t cried like that since Titanic

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by article1 on Nov 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I haven't gotten angry like that

since last Tuesday.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good pressure at times; but good intentions are….

I thinks Mitchel should centre Poni and Kessel, yes!!!!

by aki berg fan club on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

16 games into the saeson and already 13 games below .500, yep…things are really looking up. What a horrible franchise. Horrible

Not that your team is any better, chap. SNES, Habs, or ’Nucks, they all suck balls equally.

God, I hate TSN.ca’s comments page.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Matt Stajan

One good thing in the clutch was how Stajan dominated the face-off circle.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Too bad he still

can’t put up any freaking points.

He’s a great 4th line centre though!

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We have decent 3rd and 4th lines

they can compete with the bottom 6 of any team in the NHL!

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LULZ

by Chuck Canuck on Nov 11, 2009 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Catch-22

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather they just shelve the whole idea of making him a top line player.

Focus on making him an awesome defensive centre… I’m fine with that. Let him focus on what he’s good at.

If he develops some offense when he’s 32 and playing for a contract I won’t mind so much then.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I think he has the tools to play as a defensive centre but he needs to be groomed for it a bit more.

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by PPP on Nov 10, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Saw the tweet about Bolland just now. And this is a guy that makes, what, $5 million per season? Yeah, Chicago isn’t going to keep Patrick Sharp around next year.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What did he tweet?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 10, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Out 3-4 months with back surgery.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm confused

What does Bolland’s back surgery have to do with keeping Patrick Sharp?

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

keeping him NEXT YEAR

for that matter…

He’ll be back in 23 weeks… that’s a long time before next season.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Unless of course

you’re saying they can’t move Bolland because of the injury… which I don’t think made sense anyway since he’s the younger of the two.

Sharp was likely the one to move either way from where I sit. He’s older and more established… both reasons to move him… one side means Bolland will continue to develop, other side means you’ll get more return.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If I was Chicago

I’d do anything possible to dump Campbell and/or Huet.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

All it takes is a call to Gainey, if the New York Model is to be followed.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 10, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Montreal

might want Huet back, after this season from Price

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and Campbell

would be a solid replacement for Markov… lol

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It was more of a comment about asset management for Chicago. I like Bolland a lot. But they paid a ton for his potential when they knew full well they had Kane, Toews, and Keith up for RFA this offseason. They exacerbated that problem with a massive signing for Hossa. Obviously, the Blackhawks couldn’t have known about Bolland’s injury, but back surgery is serious enough for them to give pause. I fear Bolland can’t live up to that contract. And that’s a lot of money for a player who might be seriously affected with back problems in the future.

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by bkblades on Nov 10, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dave Feschuk

is the new Damien Cox!

Indeed, it was impossible to pin the defeat on the 25-year-old Monster, not after so many of the Leafs, the 29th-place team in a 30-team league, played like self-satisfied slackers; not after the worst penalty-killing unit in the league surrendered two more power-play goals. So give Gustavsson credit for honesty: He didn’t spend the post-game media scrum pretending to beat himself up. No point in killing your confidence for your teammates’ sins.

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

why bother

mentioning the fact that entering this game the Leafs PK had gone 16 for 16, and before giving up it’s first goal on the night… during a 5 on 3 for chrissakes… it was 17 for 17… worst in the N H L!

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe if the Raptors win some games Feschuk

will have something else to write about?

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 10, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn’t make good copy. We know from Leafs AbomiNation that context means jacksquat to him.

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by PPP on Nov 11, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Even worse was that dumbass article

that Feschuk wrote, purporting to be a “dialogue of the Leafs/Raptors dinner at Larry Tanenbaum’s apartment”.

Cocktails at 6 p.m. … and Jay Triano, the Raptors coach, astutely orders several. The surroundings are lavish. Tanenbaum’s home has an elevator, a ballroom and a plaque demarking the door of the Tie Domi Bedroom, named for Tanenbaum’s one-time man crush, er, a loyal and tireless former employee. But Triano is oblivious, lost in grim thought. He knows last season’s problems look an awful lot like this season’s problems, that the past two losses suggest the Raptors’ defence and rebounding are as thin as Ron Wilson’s skin.

Wilson, the Leafs coach, appears and slaps Triano on the back. “Hey, Jay, you think your guys are bad defensively? Last week the Prime Minister thought about declaring Luke Schenn a disaster area.”

Triano: “You think your guys are bad defensively? The only way Jose Calderon is ever going to stop someone from getting to the hole is if he’s reincarnated as an unrepaired ball mark on a golf green.”

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He's obviously been reading

the internet too much…

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by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 11, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Feschuk fails at Barilkosphere-style humour.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 11, 2009 12:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

LD’s slashfic is 1000 times better.

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by PPP on Nov 11, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And more accurate.

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by bkblades on Nov 11, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And full of win. :D

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

If you’re interested, here’s an account of the game from Wild Road Tripper, who attended the game:

http://hittingthepost.blogspot.com/2009/11/game-17-wild-5-maple-leafs-2.html

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 11, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the link, I guess...

Let me just summarize that:

“The Wild won because the Leafs are bad. Did I mention that the Leafs are bad? Leafs are bad. Now wait while I get Kaberle’s +/- and the Leafs’ place in the standings wrong. This ends the game summary that could have just as easily been cribbed from the highlights on nhl.com”

Old Guys in Blue and White

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