Leafs @ Blackhawks: The Aftermath
by wrap around curl on Nov 13, 2009 11:11 PM EST
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BLARGH
BLARGH
>:0
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we had a point for how awesome Kessel is we’d be in first place.
by Love, Leeman on Nov 13, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Schenn was pretty much benched for the third period, right?
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I do believe he was.
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by wrap around curl on Nov 13, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I was hoping to get one of my D going, pairing him with Exelby wouldn’t be where I’d start.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This boggles my mind as well. Exleby is constantly benched, but hey, let’s put our struggling d-men with him to create some chemistry?
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems
he di’in’t listen to the letter.
What shall we do with him?
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You mentioned this so-called letter about four times now. Honestly, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The letter
being: Get your act together, son.
That’s what it is.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s nice but that doesn’t make things so.
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by wrap around curl on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's up?
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stempniak...
…is driving me crazy. It seems every pass he gets in the offensive zone he wastes. I see him skating in on the wing, and I know the play is about to die.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I know why it didn’t count but how many times have we had a goal that is logically in not count and we go on to lose by 1?
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Leafs need to get off their asses and play a full 60 minutes. They always come out sleeping in the first and pick it up as they go along.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stalberg please
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Nov 13, 2009 11:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Hanson, pleeeease?
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Second.
I don't care what the game says! It's pronounced Krushel-NIT-ski!
by Megha on Nov 13, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reunite the College Line. :D
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is there any line with chemistry?
I like to eat the yellow snow behind the zamboni
by Kerry Fraser on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any line
That has played together in consecutive games?
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point.
I like to eat the yellow snow behind the zamboni
by Kerry Fraser on Nov 13, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, ok
ok, so if this is the way its going to go, who will stroke kessels cock in between shifts?
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by my son has a choice on Nov 13, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Send Schenn down to the MArlies, Frogren cant be much worse.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ouch....
Sadly this might not be a terrible idea
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I.........approve of this!?
What have we come to!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
o_0
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marlies?
No. 7th in the press box? Sure.
by Kohma on Nov 13, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why
Sit him?
He’s a kid, he needs playing time
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing For The Marlies
IS a kick in the ass
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
And if Viktor Stalberg is any indication, Marlies time might benefit Schenn.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stalberg hasn’t proven anything up here yet, other than preseason. A lot like Tlusty. For Schenn, being a Marlie would be a slap in the face. Make him watch his team suffer without him.
by Kohma on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Desperate times
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Call for desperate measures.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stalberg is eating up the AHL right now. He’s too good for the Marlies to be honest.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leaving Schenn up last season might have been an irresponsible thing to do.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. We might have sucked enough to get tavares who just happened to score his 7th goal of the year tonight.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kessel just scored his 6th
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure Kessel scored his 4th tonight and he scored 11 goals in 70 games as a rookie.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight were goals 3 and 4
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
i’m thinking points. everything is going wrong in my brain tonight…
:/
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still if he keeps this up, and Boston bombs the draft, this might go down as one of the most lopsided trades in league history.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, maybe he could have used the development time. Burke has a rep for letting his players develop at a good pace, which is important right now. That said, the 3 college guys are old enough and big enough that I wouldn’t mind seeing them get a crack.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
errrr...
could be true but i think he like the rest of the team feed on emotion. last year hes beating guys up to protect a teamate, blocking shots to get on the team. now, he hears he/the team should suck so he/they d. this team is so fragile and emotional. they always have been. so am i.
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by my son has a choice on Nov 13, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As such, Frogren will likely be snatched up by another team. This is why Gunns was called up and we’ll probably see him tomorrow.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the X
Exelby can rot away in the pressbox as far as I’m concerned.
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by my son has a choice on Nov 13, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kessel...
…man, this guy is…just wow. I mean, forget 4 goals, 2 assists in 5 games, minus a Savard-style centre. The fact that he’s playing like this after a major shoulder injury, surgery, rehab, missing training camp, and the first 13 games…this guy is phenomenal.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ditto
prior to the comments being closed, I had typed this rebuttal to mr. mf37 re: Kessel:
He’s a 21 year old who scored more even strength goals than98% of the league last season, and he looks DAMN good this year.
I think you’re a little blinded by your dislike of the trade. Kessel eats cap room for a guy with Kessel like talent. You have to admit he’s heads and tails above any other Leaf currently on the team, and he has the potential to be one of the best to put on a Leafs sweater in a LONG time.
He’s got what, 6 goals in 5 games? WITHOUT Savard, who for a while, was the lynch pin in the Anti-Kessel argument. He’s an upper-level-with-elite-level-potential talent, being paid $5M per. That’s a bargain to me.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Blurr,
I’m glad there’s some disagreement on this. Sometimes I think there’s too much of an echochamber around here.
Kessel is the real deal. I think he’ll be a 25 to 35 goal man each and every year. I just don’t think he’s what the Leafs need at this point and the price was too high, both in terms of picks and salary.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why salary?
seriously, who should he be paid like?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard criticism of his salary because he had a rep as a defensive liability, but he’s been putting that idea to rest, I think.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He should be paid like an RFA with limited leverage.
The two most important elements of the CBA are salary management and depth. You can’t have the latter without the former.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so in that instance
he signs short term, and then in 2-3 years, you’re back where you started.
If we can expect 30-40 goals a year from him, he’ll consistently be in the top 30 for goals scored. The top 5% of the league. Then, when the Leafs have no leverage, no picks and no depth (a different debatable topic) they’ll need to cough up $2-$3M more for him.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He had zero leverage. Why open the bank?
I think Kohma said it far better than I did in the comment below.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers, Preds and Leafs.
It wasn’t a sure thing he was coming here…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Kessel said he had no intentions of playing with the Preds and the Rangers were iffy because Boston wasn’t interested in the Rags supposed offer.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers don’t have $5M in cap room and I doubt Nashville had the budget.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Naashville had the budget for an American star and the prospects/picks Boston liked, but Kessel said no to Nashville and they got gun-shy after their experience with Radulov.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What would an RFA get paid? 3-4 mil. Thats what Boston was offering and he refused. Why would he want less when a team just traded for him.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kessel had NO leverage. None. Why open the vault?
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea but once we traded for him he had leverage. He knows the leafs want him and if we dont pay him he can walk or sign an offer sheet with another team and leafs lose 2 firsts for nothing.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he still didn’t have leverage. The trade doesn’t go down until contractual terms are agreed to.
He’s free agent, he’s allowed to negotiate with teams prior to a trade for his rights. Boston gets compensated because of his free agency status (Restricted).
You don’t trade the assets to Boston until you’ve determined his price and agreed to contract.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you’re right at that point. But then the offer sheet, Kessel doesn’t have to sign one from the leafs. He can sign one he likes from another team. Leafs don;t lose anything but they dont get kessel either. But think of it this way. Would you want Alexander Semin on your team for 5 million dollars a year. Kessel and him are very similar players except Kessel is a true sniper.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t think Semin is a sniper, arguably more talented than Kessel, I’m not sure we watch the same players play.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Semin lacks consistency. He goes on tears and then stays quiet for 5 games and then goes hot again. Hes talented but he isnt a go to guy.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
He plays with the best player on the planet
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has been the catalyst for the Caps when Ovie was injured though. Semin has motivational issues, similar to Kessel. They’re pretty similar players. The Leafs got their own version of Semin. I’m happy with that in any case.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Kessel signs a deal with another club (and name a team willing to ink him to a $5M+ offer sheet and unload those picks) Boston has the right to match.
They also don’t have to get under cap until Kessel comes off LTIR.
Again, I don’t have a problem with the values attached to Kessel, I just don’t think the Leafs are in any position to pay those prices.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we aren’t.
At the beginning of the season we needed to add a dynamic player to what looked like a strong top 6 and a playoff contending team. Unfortunately it all went wrong.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What?!? Who thought this team had a strong top 6?
When Chemmy and I did point/counterpoint on this most agreed the Leafs were a 10th place team.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe strong wasn’t the right word but it looked decent. And coming in 10th in the conference in a mid-range draft pick that probably won’t come close to Kessel’s ability.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
However, all things have gone wrong, which is an odd thing to happen, anywhere but here, apparently.
Kulemin, Grabovski, Mitchell and Schenn all suffering sophomore slumps.
Blake and Wallin non-existant.
4th line non-existant.
Toskala barely retaining any value.
Tlusty unable to make jump.
Stajan and Ponikarovsky regressing.
Komisarek and Beauchemin not panning out as expected.
The only guys who have lived up to their billing have been Kaberle, Kessel and Gustavsson.
by Kohma on Nov 14, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point here..
I’d say he is worth the trade in picks, and in salary.
I’d also say the Leafs were in no position to pay the picks for him.
by Kohma on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That might be the better way to put it.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s risky, but Bruke was projecting low picks in a weak draft. Is he worth a Schenn and a Kadri? Maybe not. Is he worth a Steen and a Colaiacovo? Probably. I guess we’ll have to wait and see where Boston drafts, then who they get.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell even a Daigle
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hall = Daigle
book it.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
I think you’ve made your opinion on Hall well known.
Just sayin’.
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by Pamplemousse on Nov 13, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll shut up about it now.
Better I shut my mouth about it now, than getting owned come draft day.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we’ll have to wait and see where Boston drafts, then who they get.
and then wait 4 or 5 years from that point to see how they develop. At which point the Leafs are how many years along?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well trade away all draft picks in perpetuity.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
quite frankly, until all those things pan out, I can’t see how this can be seen as a bad Leafs trade, and I think it’s a little unfair to use that as the crux of your ever crumbling argument.
:P
i kid ikid. we’ll just have to wait and see. Either way, you’ve got to admit, Kessel has looked every bit the guy Burke was trading for.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thrilled with how Kessel has played. Couldn’t be happier.
kohma really summed up my position perfectly (thaks Kohma!) – I think Kessel likely went for what he was worth (maybe a tad high) but the Leafs were in no position to pay that price.
I’d love a Ferrari. It would be fun to drive. Provide the family with tonnes of thrills, but the price I’d have to pay would be far too much for where my family is at this point in our lives.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but
in two years, as your family grows and becomes award winning authors and renowned hockey GMs, that Porsche will be there to serve you…?
i’m bad with metaphors.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d also say the Leafs were in no position to pay the picks for him.
Very succinct and accurate. I was more concerned with the major shoulder injuries, which was why I didn’t like the price given up for him. But I’ve been proven wrong on that part so far.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that
is certainly a better way to put it. That said…
If you look at Bozak, Hanson and Gustavsson as 1st/2nd round picks, what did we lose…?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want Bozak, Hanson, Gustavsson AND the picks.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and no Kessel?
Everything that’s been put up against this kid is quickly being proven as unfounded. He’s a far more complete player than I could have imagined. The Leafs may well have won a trade, but until those picks pan out, I can’t see this as being bad, and even then, when/if those picks pan out for the Bruins, they better be players who will be in the top 4% for goal scorers…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. No Kessel.
Too much cap hit, too soon for a team that’s nowhere near competing.
I’d rather load up on draft picks and NCAA signings each and every year and blow the $5M+ contracts on UFAs in three to four years to push a young, hungry team over the hump.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if Fletcher was left as GM, you’d have gotten your wish.
Burke doesn’t seem as patient. Some will like it, some won’t.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At which point a 24 year old 35-50 goal scoring player would be key in helping the team compete.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With the way the contracts are being doled out, i don’t think any big ticket free agents will be available for 10-15 years.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With the rate the cap is shrinking, teams are losing money and GMs are getting in bad cap trouble, I think you might be wrong.
Kovalchuk, Savard and Marleau will ceratinly be the first test.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that
is certainly a better way to put it. That said…
If you look at Bozak, Hanson and Gustavsson as 1st/2nd round picks, what did we lose…?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oooookaaayyyyy
weird…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but they will need a player like him at his salary in 3 years….when he’s a ripe old 24.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather they try to get one in three years when the team is loaded with young talent, has all their picks, and has a better salary cap structure.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this team will make the playoffs next year with Bozak, Stalberg, Kadri and hopefully an awesome FA forward or two. We have tons of cap space to make things happen.
Getting a potential 50 goal scorer for 5mil is a steal.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kovulchuk please, but if the Thrashers keep winning, whooped some team 7-0, he might just stick around.
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kovalchuck is staying in Atlanta or he’s going to Russia. No way Atlanta loses him.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about 50, but he sure seems to be a cinch for 35 a season. The last guy that could do that for the Leafs just retired, is a sure fire HOFer and was drafted first overall…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting a potential 40 goal scorer for two firsts, a second and a third and a $5M cap hit is not a steal.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please stop ignoring the Bozak, Hanson and Gustavsson signings. In the big picture, they are part of this argument and allowed Burke to trade those picks.
I know you’d rather have both, but considering the Kessel trade within a silo is disingenuous
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by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those 3 signings were basically made in prepartion for a trade like the Kessel one. I’d rather have 4 guys close to entering their prime than 3 imaginary players.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not being disingenious.
Look at any ranking of the Leafs’ prospects and they’re still in the bottom tier of the league. Even with those three signings, this team is seriously lacking in young talent.
The leafs have had, what, three first round picks this decade? That’s no way to build a system or to ice a competitive team
Trading for Kessel is like a guy living in a tent buying a crystal chandelier.
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by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we're talking decades
those early 2000 picks were being traded for…
a top flight guy to get us over the hump.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing about the draft is that it’s such a crap shoot while we know Kessel is gonna score 30 a year for us.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
High draft picks aren’t crap shoots. Mid to low round picks are.
Kessel may well be worth 2 first, a second and a third, but the Leafs were in no position to be giving up that loot.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Nov 14, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all draft picks are crap shoots. the chance of success is incrementally higher the closer to the top you get, but it’s never a sure thing.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Nov 14, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Full marks to Kessel and (OMG) Toskala for keeping us in the game. It seems our D is the one to blame for Tosk’s troubles.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009
by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Aside form the crap goal every game which he avoided today
Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009
by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Vesa starts to play like this every time we see him and warrant a goaltending battle with the monster.
by 6rick6 on Nov 13, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
blarg
I like to eat the yellow snow behind the zamboni
by Kerry Fraser on Nov 13, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"He'll be fine, he grew up by a nuclear power plant"- Alexander Mogilny
by Almo89 on Nov 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goddamnit
>:0
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where was the review????
"He'll be fine, he grew up by a nuclear power plant"- Alexander Mogilny
by Almo89 on Nov 13, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson thinks it was a goal and said, “It would have stopped the bleeding.”
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a review
but they said it was “no goal”.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The puck is in the glove.
The glove is in the crease.
But since we cannot see the puck, we cannot assume it’s where we see it go, and come out from.
No goal.
Bettman’s Head!
by Kohma on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see the puck, right there, in the net.
Where’s the goalie cam view? or did that camera suddenly break or look the wrong way?
I like to eat the yellow snow behind the zamboni
by Kerry Fraser on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The worst part about it is, there’s precedence for this.
Anyone remember the ‘02 Olympics, Canada v. Czech Republic? I can’t remember who it was, but a Team Canada player shot the puck, Hasek gloved it, and then rolled over such that all of his glove was in the net. Therefore the puck was in the net. It was ruled a goal.
So… why can’t they get it right here?
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, still. Now truculently rebranded!
by stucky on Nov 14, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
clearly
clearly its not it. physics is for dumb asses. bad angle video replay is for goal judges. did the goal light go on? do they still do that?
"Dad why are you crying?"
by my son has a choice on Nov 13, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at where the puck is relative to the goal line. GD it. dumb ass refs cant get a call right
Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009
by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad Hagman couldn’t get the puck up with the 3 chances he had. I bet it would have been a goal if it was at our net.
by 6rick6 on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion, that screen grab, which was available to the judges, is conclusive enough evidence that the puck is in the net- if it was opposing, I’m pretty certain I would say the same thing.
It does, however, make me wish there was RF (radio frequency) pucks that would make the call irrelevant.
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
by kidkawartha on Nov 13, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m happy for Vesa Toskala. Now he won’t have to walk like no one cares about him until the next time he starts.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was promised truculence.
As per new community rules; all signature tags on PPP must contain the word "truculent".
(843): the red head has a bf
(1-843): just because there's a goalie doesn't mean u can't score
by wrap around curl on Nov 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was promised a return to form for this team... =(
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Stempniak’s hit?
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by Blinky on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for Stempniak,
that was pretty truculent. But that’s only reletively
THIS IS A JOKE
by loser domi on Nov 13, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding?
He told that guy to take a fucking seat, and then elbow some dude in the ensuing brawl. Pretty truculent right there.
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by Blinky on Nov 13, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
which was neat
and unexpected for him.
THIS IS A JOKE
by loser domi on Nov 13, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Expect nothing and everything from the Ninja.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone interested in those Malone/Horton rumours?
Sure, it’d be a lot of salary to take on for the remainder of their contracts, but assuming we don’t luck out in free agency this summer (Kovalchuk, Marleau, Savard), we’ll be relying on affordable young players in the next few seasons anyway (Stalberg, Bozak, Hanson, Tlusty, Kadri).
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stalberg – Kadri – Kessel
Malone – Bozak – Horton
As a top 6?
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
filthy
but i don’t see it happening.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Nov 13, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
St .Louis looks like a big trade partner. Their owner, as per Mirtle in amidst his anchorman quotes (ie. wonderful), said “This team needs wins now.”
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Malone and Horton for what though. They won’t come for free.
by 6rick6 on Nov 13, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stajan and Mayers
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any day but not gonna happen, need someone like Mike Milbury to accept that offer.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009
by LeafFan1989 on Nov 13, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not gonna happen?!?
What’re you crazy?
They’d be nuts to turn that deal down.
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This damn thing is broken!
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Malone and Horton for what though. They won’t come for free.
And the Leafs have about $500K in cap room.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grabovski and Blake for Horton send them more salary then we’d get back, plus make some room for Malone.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grabovski and Blake for Horton
The Panthers GM would probably pass out from laughing to hard to be able to turn that deal down.
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s mostly wishful thinking on my part, because I don’t think we’re going to get any top 3 forwards in FA this summer, which means unless 2 of Bozak, Hanson, Kadri, Stalberg or Tlusty suddenly become 30+ goal scorers next year, we’ll be relying on this bunch to get us into the playoffs again. Which will make me pass out from laughing also.
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with the handsome mustachioed man on this one. No team is going to take on salary in a trade.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
by mf37 on Nov 13, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Panthers GM:
“Really? I can get a 35 year old for $3M a year until 2013, and a legit 20-goal scorer and all I have to give up is the best player on my team that I just signed to a contract extension?”
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 13, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hence “wishful thinking on my part.”
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Although since Grabs has one more point than Horton this season, and had more points than Horton last season, and is making 1.2 million less, and is under contract for only 2 more years instead of 3, fuck Horton. It’ll be easier to manage Grabs in the cap system.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just playing with you, friend
I love Nathan Horton and would celebrate like a motherbrother if he were a bud.
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 14, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good question though.
What would Horton be worth? or Malone?
What would you want from florida for Blake? Or what for Kaberle?
by Kohma on Nov 14, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Horton
Is actually pretty overpaid. $5M a year? Steep.
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 14, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NHL Numbers has him at 4 mil a year, but I don’t know how accurate that is.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m serious about my previous point, though. Players with Horton/Malone contracts are kind of a liability under the cap system at the best of times, let alone when they struggle.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
5.5 in 12/13
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 14, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the cap hit averages out to 4 mil a year, which is the important part (for a team that has to worry about the cap, not about finding money to pay salary).
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take them...
at least one of them. They’d still be amongst our best players, and we’d have them for similar durations as Kessel. It could start a decent nucleus.
by Kohma on Nov 14, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4 million is his cap hit.
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by bkblades on Nov 14, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cap hit numbers
are beyond me.
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 14, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like saying cap hit to sound smarter, truth be told.
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by bkblades on Nov 14, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m willingly ignorant
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 14, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like easy math, because I am bad at math.
I’m out. Nice talking to you guys!
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love you
never change
You know where I'm from.
by Archimedies on Nov 14, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Change if it brings popularity. Everyone knows popularity is the most important thing in life.
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by bkblades on Nov 14, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll change, see if it works, then change back if it doesn’t. Or change into something else. Like a truck, Optimus style.
Which would make me super popular, because Optimus Prime is like everyone’s dad. Also, a truck.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason I’d consider Malone and/or Horton at 4.5/4 mil a year over the next 3 – 4 years is that Kessel is already signed, and Bozak, Hanson, Kadri, Stalberg, Tlusty or whoever becomes a top 6 forward won’t be breaking the bank for a while. Even a breakout rookie season by those players might net them, at most 2 – 4 million, until they’re proven consistant players.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Horton is struggling, and the rumour has NYI interested in trading for Blake so they can reunite him with Moore. This makes sense from a salary perspective because the salary is the same but Blake has a year less. Throw in Grabovski to sweeten the deal, since our top 6 already has centremen.
Malone is lighting it up, but the rumour is ALWAYS that Tampa hates his salary; they’re hurting for cash, and have Stamkos signed cheap to score goals anway, plus Malone won’t keep this pace up and they know it. Maybe throw in Kulemin or something?
by Akihockey on Nov 13, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kulemin + whatever for Malone? No thanks. If Tampa hates that contract, they throw in picks as well. Plus, the Lightning are more concerned about Lecavalier than Malone. Malone they can live with, Lecavalier struggling they cannot.
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by bkblades on Nov 13, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed the game… who ended up wearing the other A?
by rpop on Nov 13, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
argh
Fuck goal judges, fuck Jason Blake, fuckin Garnet Exelby.
I still love the Leafs, will never stop, but Blake and Exelby play drink what’s underneath the sink then go for a stroll on the 401
Resident Cook and IT Superman
Truculence FTW
by leafer1984 on Nov 13, 2009 11:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Exelby = FAILURE AT LIFE
We traded Pavel Kubina for him!?
WHAT THE FUCK!? >:0
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still...
Couldn’t we trade Kubina for someone other than fucking Exelby?
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s hard to get anything in a salary dump.
by Clawson on Nov 13, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I need a drink now……..later
"He'll be fine, he grew up by a nuclear power plant"- Alexander Mogilny
by Almo89 on Nov 13, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
play drink what’s underneath the sink then go for a stroll on the 401
ahahaha
THIS IS A JOKE
by loser domi on Nov 13, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just think of Kessel’s second goal. Makes me feel better.
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by Blinky on Nov 13, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kessel <3
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm out folks
need to go wallow in my sorrows.
Peas out.
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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 13, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
REMEMBER THE KESSEL
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by Blinky on Nov 14, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Going To Go Out On a Limb Here
And say that I don’t particularly like our team this year, especially in light of how much I liked our team last year – I mean, outside of the PK and Gustavsson in general has there been any real positive change compared to last years squad?
Consider – after 16 games last year the Leafs had 7 wins and 19 points while playing their 14 of their first 16 games against eventual playoff teams. After 16 games this year they have 3 wins and 11 points while playing 8 games against teams currently sitting out of playoff contention.
Our PK is worse then last year, our average goals against per game is worse then last year and our average goals for per game is worse then last year.
Frankly, I think Burke erred in letting go of Antropov and Moore – Antropov because the team lacks a big presence in front of the net and Moore because he’s the only player in three seasons to have any chemistry with Blake.
Unable to actually speak French since 1980.
by Pamplemousse on Nov 14, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
All that said
I want this team to succeed, and I’m going to cheer them on every damn game for the rest of my life.
I was just really fond of last years team, and I’m not so much of this years.
Unable to actually speak French since 1980.
by Pamplemousse on Nov 14, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Burke erred in saying he expects the Leafs to be a playoff team and that we’re not rebuilding but tweaking.
agreed on the team accounts though. not much fun this year…
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Nov 14, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Burke is looking a little foolish; he brought a big ego to the League’s biggest market, and if this team continues to struggle even close to how it already has, he’ll be eating some humble pie. Which might be good for him, in the long run.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
that I blame Burke just yet. He did what he thought was best. I think there are a lot of guys in the dressing room that are underperforming, or simply aren’t good enough. Most of that mess is his inheritance.
Maybe Boston will give us back our picks for Kaberle at the deadline.
by Kohma on Nov 14, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That whole “ego” thing just really pisses me off. It’s a media myth at best and a Leaf hater meme at worst. Burke is aggressive, honest and outspoken. You better believe you need a healthy ego to manage the most visible job in the hockey universe, and thank God we’ve got Burke. At least he obviously wants to win, not just 5 years from now, but right now as much as we can. Does he have balls and courage? Yup. Is his “ego” too big? What does that even mean? How much ego should a Stanley Cup winning GM reasonably have?
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
by kidkawartha on Nov 14, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really like the direction of the team under Burke, even if they’re struggling now. But he came across as pretty cocky about how well this team was going to do in comparison to how well we can really expect it to do. And I’m probably guilty of the same thing. I’m not saying this team can’t improve, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they continue to struggle somewhat. But with the youth in the pipeline and deveoping, I’m fine with that.
by Akihockey on Nov 14, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like Burke's philosophy
I don’t like his execution of said philosophy… so far.
Unable to actually speak French since 1980.
by Pamplemousse on Nov 14, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate how all these gms talk about drafting someone like kessel down the line. When were more like the team Brian Burke wants. Kessel broke nearly every record in the usndp. They don’t come around often furthermore I’m 100 percent behind the kessel trade.
by jmobes on Nov 14, 2009 12:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
and I’m 100% behind you!
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Nov 14, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That loss stung. We need more moustache power. Ian “el Blanco” White for captain, Wendel’s moustache will be his guide.
by Robertsrules on Nov 14, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
a few comments from someone at the game (uh, Hawks fan again)
I got home and skimmed through the game threads (btw, even with all the comments PPP people put in this morning, SCH’s didn’t reach 300. why am I always jealous?)
Biggest crowd at the UC this season. Saw many Leafs fans, in fact, the section near me (331 probably) had a big “Go Leafs Go” cheering section, enough to prompt some “shut up”s (er, not from me) but nothing too ugly. I looked at Leafs jerseys to see if I recognized Jared’s, but, well, I don’t know what he looks like, so I didn’t get to say hi.
I liked that it was a close game, didn’t want to get overconfident. Obviously if some of those calls had gone differently it’d have been closer. Definitely more penalties and questionable calls than other games I’ve been to (sorry, I know I’m stating a lot of obvious stuff, but at least I didn’t come here to argue…). I didn’t expect to see Schenn fight, that was interesting. I’ve now seen Hawks fight (if not especially well) two games in a row…
Of course Kessel didn’t get the hat trick I saw people hoping for, but he did better than any Hawk—I think I read yesterday that no Hawk has scored more than one goal in any game this season.
Leafs fans seemed fairly cheerful (or maybe just super-drunk) after the game and I hope Hawks fans weren’t too obnoxious. I got a photo of an “Ottawa Sucks” jersey, plus I had a good spot to see the Leafs on ice before the game. I’ll try to put pictures on the internet eventually…
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by KofC on Nov 14, 2009 1:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
KofC- don’t be afraid to boast about your team, you’ve got lot’s to be proud/excited about. For me, it isn’t Chicago sports unless someone is going nuts, having lived there for 4 or 5 years.
Having said that, you’re pretty gracious and it’s appreciated. Some of the other SCH guys, well, that’s another story. They seem pretty bent on it being more important to puff out an artificially inflated chest than enjoy one of the longest, though not best, rivalries in the game. It’s good to see hockey back in it’s rightful place in the city, hopefully the fan base develops along with it.
I am Mikhail Grabovski's smirking revenge.
by kidkawartha on Nov 14, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SCH’s didn’t reach 300. why am I always jealous?)
Because we have better things to do than comment on the internet? Even if it’s just drink a lot and yell at the TV? Just kidding… I’m jealous too.
Also.. I’m ok with no Hawk scoring more than a single goal in one game so far. Those will come but right now it just seems they’re spreading the scoring around..
Also.. I’m ok with no Hawk scoring more than a single goal in one game so far. Those will come but right now it just seems they’re spreading the scoring around..
by Matthew Dirt on Nov 14, 2009 3:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huzzah!
good god was that game way too close.
by Matthew Dirt on Nov 14, 2009 3:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know life's rough....
When Vesa Toskala puts up a .912 SV%…and you STILL lose.
Thank god for alcohol.
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Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It probably just seems this way because we’re losing, but a majority of the calls seem to be going against the Leafs. I’m not sure if we’ve been on the beneficial end of a goal dispute this season. And how do you draw a penalty and then wind up with 2 guys in the box and a PK?
Other than that, I feel the Leafs were outclassed much of the night. Kessel sniped a few goals and looked dangerous, but the rest of this team looked lackadaisical. Vesa played really well. He had little to no chance on any of those goals. I don’t know what this team is gonna do, but there’s talent down on the farm.
by birky on Nov 14, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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