Maple Leafs 3 v. NY Islanders 4 (OT): Second Verse Same As The First
by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 9:58 PM EST
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Despite throwing 61 shots at Dwayne Roloson the Maple Leafs fell 4-3 in overtime to the New York Islanders. On the bright side, John Tavares was a complete non-factor. After a dominating first period the Maple Leafs fell behind to a Jeff Tambellini breakaway goal as a long period of pressure went unrewarded, a pretty good Matt Moulson deflection, and, frankly, a terrible all around effort on Sean Bergenheim's short-handed goal. Toskala left with a lower body injury which was probably a pain in the ass from all of the needless needling he took from fans after the third goal. I hate Toskala as much as the next guy - and hope he's really injured because Kypreos seemed to be intimating that he quit on the team - but Kaberle made a brutal effort at blocking the shot and ended up doing nothing more than backing in too far and providing the kind of screen that the Leafs' forwards couldn't match all night.
Update: Here is Dominik's (Lighthouse Hockey) recap of the game and a look at the NHL.com shot chart for tonight's game.
Of course, when you're playing a terrible team like the Islanders (I know, the irony) who is on the back end of a seven game road-trip, it's not that hard to continue taking the game to them. The Leafs were rewarded when Matt Stajan's embarrassment at getting his stick knocked out of his hands turned to joy as he ended up by a loose puck to set up Phil Kessel to break Roloson's goose egg. The third period was one way traffic as the Leafs' dogged puck pursuit created chance after chance. Wayne Primeau potted a rebound after showing the Leafs that it's not actually against the law to stand directly in front of the goalie. And then Niklas Hagman made a great rush to prove that he can finish just as much as he can dangle. The Leafs were attacking with speed and looked poise to snatch a winner in regulation.
Instead, they didn't score on a final powerplay and almost made it through overtime before a terrible Ian White play combined with Tomas Kaberle's exhaustion and a bad bounce off of the side of the net (seriously, that shot comes by a million times and shoots in front of the net maybe 5 times) conspired to keep the Leafs from another shot at the shootout. So the Leafs' don't begin a winning streak but they also lose John Mitchell. Great news all around.
Who were your players of the game and who could have done more? Let's talk it out sans razor blades folks.
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ME GRIMLOCK ME BREAK VESA'S GROIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Almo89 on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hagman Primeau Kessel White Gunnarson
All good tonight
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
GUSTAVSSON?
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he didn’t really have a lot of work.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither did Toskala.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Five saves.
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by Archimedies on Nov 23, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so a 700 sv% or so
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im good at math
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and spelling! Two R’s defeated!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gunnarson is looking like a sweet late round pick up
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how calm he looks at all times – great for a young defenseman
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4th nhl game and he is cold as ice, made some very veteran decisions
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“spirit is everything” needs to be replaced with “they deserved better”. or “scoring goals is hard”.
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by daoust on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
THERE WILL BE NO MORE MORAL VICTORIES
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like a vote for “scoring goals is hard”.
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by daoust on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leafs Nation
“Fucking Score!!!”
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by clrkaitken on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leafs Nation-
I’m listening to the fucking song!
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by kidkawartha on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sick of losing all these games we should be winning
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much everyone was good. except Blake needs to learn you don’t score by skating behind the net.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So does Garbo
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by Almo89 on Nov 23, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he tried to kill Roloson when he took a bad shot.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The rule is: a body in useless, ineffectual motion tends to stay in useless, ineffectual motion- Jason Blake physics!
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by kidkawartha on Nov 23, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Blake had a great game. Good forecheck, creating turnovers or setting up shots from the point.
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Toskala left with a lower body injury which was probably a pain in the ass from all of the needless needling he took from fans after the third goal
I always knew you were the sensible one.
Kulemin, Stemps were great on forecheck, the defence was pretty solid, except for a few mental breakdowns, OLAS looked really good. The offence needs to finish.
I hate Jason Blake with the power of a 1000 suns
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The goal he went down on for no reason that went over him?
That’s two hundred percent his fault.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this
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by daoust on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have climbed over the glass to break a beer bottle on him if I was at the ACC.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So Kaberle backing up and letting him take the shot had NOTHING to do with it?
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toskala was pretty much on his knees before Bergenheim even had control of the puck.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OH COME ON
I know you guys have this hate on for VEsa and rightfully so, but had the forwards put one or two past Roloson in the first, it’s a completely different game
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With 60 shots...
I don’t think you can say they weren’t trying.
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by chillin411 on Nov 23, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya they tried, they didn’t finish
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not like they didn’t try. It’s not their fault Toskala allows 3 goals on 3 consecutive shots (1 not 100% his fault, 1 30% his fault and the last 100% on him). Seriously, he does nothing to deserve the defense of him. He’s had one good game out of ten all season long.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just the formula for Leaf games:
Toskala in net? TOSKALOL SUCKS WAIVE TOSKala
Gustavsson in net? THE Forwards can’t finish and can’t score. defence didn’t help etc
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah because we were all over his ass on Saturday.
…oh wait.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry my mistake
Leaf losses
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He lets in routine shots. The goal on Gustavsson is unsaveable. The goals on Toskala go over his glove.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And it’s been pointed out numerous times that team is at fault for that and at least 70% for the first Islanders goal.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I woudn’t fault a goalie for a breakway ordinarily but Toskala’s “oops it went over my glove” thing is getting old. The book’s out on him and he’s not adjusting.
Play the string out Toskala, you’re not playing in the NHL next year.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tambellini
I have nothing but gratitude toward Toskala, but I should note Tambellini can place that shot on any goalie in the league. It’s his main (only?) weapon.
He’s the guy who meanders in on shootout attempts and fires that same shot from the top of the slot just inside the post every time.
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by Dominik on Nov 24, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on Chemmy
That goal on Gustavsson was savable if he didn’t, A: let out a rebound that landed in front of the net to an Isles player and B: if he doesn’t over play it to the point that he put himself outta position to make a stop.
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by BlueBuds on Nov 24, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A: It went off of the side of the net
B: Overplay? He stepped up to face down the shooter and White allowed the pass on the 2-on-1.
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
as much as I love White, that was a big mistake.
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by Karina on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just par for the course. Even when players are at their best they are trying to do too much.
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the constant losing does that to ya.
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by Karina on Nov 24, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think White and Kaberle have even played with each other all year, or at least, that much. Wilson put all his eggs in the basket and in this instance, he lost. It happens.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It appeared to me it when off of him… watching online sometimes you cant tell…sigh. I miss center ice but wasn’t happy with it when I had it.
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by BlueBuds on Nov 24, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It took a different angle to see it come off the side of the net
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 2:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, most of the people i was watching the game with didnt catch it either, but the puck hit the post/side of the side and shot right out into the slow, monster deftly cut the angle off right away but the isles made a nice play to quickly find bailey open in the slot and white was down and out unable to block the pass.
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 24, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, he does nothing to deserve the defense of him.
Even still, you’re letting other players off the hook when you overlook the mistakes that led to the scoring chance to begin with. Shorthanded trailing by 2 goals should not be when you’re giving up a shot on goal on a rush, let alone a laser from the high slot.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure why Kaberle is on the ice in OT to be honest. That doesn’t change the fact that we wouldn’t have been in OT if Toskala makes a routine save on the third goal.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When the Leafs were hemmed in there at the end I noticed the two defenceman were White and Kabby and I thought “Wilson’s going for it!” thinking y’know offence. They never really got more then 5 feet from their own goal.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s sort of my beef with Kaberle. It’s nice that he scores a lot of points for a d-man but he gives up a lot of goals for a defenseman.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toskala gives up a lot of goals for a goaltender.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ayup
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kaberle is on the ice in OT because we want to score… score and you win…
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t a goal scoring competition.
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by furcifer on Nov 23, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it is in OT
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone should submit that question to Damien’s mailbag.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beauchemin backed up, to allow the play out of the Islanders zone and gave up way to much room. Then Kaberle backed up inside the zone and gave up way to much room. And then I don’t know what happened… Toskala missed and he barely moved. He reallly needs to work on his glove hand. It’s killing him.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you GB
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, Toskala lets in routine shots. He won’t be back next year. He loses us games alone.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not like it was an impossible shot. IT WENT RIGHT OVER HIM!
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is Toskala’s fault.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I give up
I’m gone
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we`d all be screaming bloody murder if Gustvasson let that in too.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s a look at Semyon Varlamov, his glove hand, and the butteryfly.
Especially this comment and this image
I think that Toskala might have gone down a bit early but he’s the victim of his size and Kaberle’s screen. Not to say that I don’t want him waived but for lots of other reasons than this goal.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goaltending stats or 70s string art?
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahaha
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson presser on Leafs TV Right now.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wish Center Ice would show that.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson - Mitchell will be out for a while with a knee injury
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I saw knee right away. Of course our illustrious broadcast team couldn’t tell if it was his hip or leg.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell hasn’t done anything anyways. The bad thing is it’ll probibly mean Wallin is back in.
by 6rick6 on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NO! I tmeans hanson or hamilton will be up
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 24, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So that number of 61 shots is not a typo in the game summary?
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by Zachary Zielonka on Nov 23, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nope. We suck.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chemmy if you go to 640 am website they will be broadcasting it live as well.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how to use the internet.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t you just say “Im 12 wut is this. lol”
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by wrap around curl on Nov 23, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
………………………..
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by Almo89 on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry didn’t mean to stir up bad feelings, its just that the number didn’t seem real
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by Zachary Zielonka on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah yeah
get him!!
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by my son has a choice on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess some of us are a little touchy. Don’t read too much into it.
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by stucky on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if three of our top six (stajan, blake, grabbo) could actually score.
by 6rick6 on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stajan is a playmaker and he’s been doing a good job at that.
by Clawson on Nov 24, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to stop having mental lapses.
I really think that’s our main problem. We do so well, so so well… and then we just decide that we don’t have to play well for 30 seconds or so. This was definitely the case tonight – I can’t really put a finger on anyone that played bad the entire game, or even a majority of the game.
Looking back at pretty much every single game this season, on a per minute basis, I think we do way better than the other team does. It’s just the minute here, minute there business where we forget the game plan, and all of the sudden the puck is somewhere it definitely shouldn’t be.
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by chillin411 on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Perfect games are very rare. Mistakes are intrinsic to hockey. You just hope the other team cant capitalize on them. Without mistakes hockey would be udderly boring.
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There's a difference...
Between mistakes and lapses.
Ian White’s giveaway in OT was a mistake. The defence backing up to allow the Islanders shoot while simoultaneously screening Toskala was a lapse.
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by chillin411 on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was Kaberle’s giveaway.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not from my point of view. He played it out of Kaberle’s reach. It was a poor pass from White that Kaberel couldn’t corral.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Kessel should have been on the third Islander that came swooping in.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
kabby was floating about 4 feet from the boards, saw white pass it and made a lazy one handed stick poke at the passing puck
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn’t aware. He thought he could let it run up the boards and pick it up later. He literally stepped over the puck. I don’t think he expected a two man forecheck in OT
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see both parties at fault
But it was right idea, just poorly executed.
Rather than bad idea, executed to perfection.
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by chillin411 on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I question the wisdom of having Kaberel and White paired together late in OT. Maybe if you had the man advantage, okay, but it’s an offensive puckmoving overload and a real defensive liabilty.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Knowing how Gustavsson is in net? and how the Leafs had been pressuring the Isles non-stop?
I like the call.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think pressuring the Islanders non-stop played a big part. Maybe the right move at the wrong time. Shoulda let them get the puck over centre first.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mistakes, lapses, blunders, fuck ups. Call it wantever you want, it will happen every single game for as long as you live. Its as much apart of hockey as the ice
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its like crack. im soooooo high then….
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by my son has a choice on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know it’s bad when you outshoot the opposition by 40 fucking shots and still lose.
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by Blinky on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell is out with a knee injury. Goes for an MRI tomorrow – Wilson said it looks like he’s going to be out a long time.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope they call up a young guy, prolly won’t be Bozak due to cap reasons
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by leafer1984 on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hanson or Hamilton, definitely.
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by clrkaitken on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hansond deserves it.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
probably walin until they put him on long term IR
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh, I’m sick of saying this but….his bonuses won’t count till next year. Thus, he can come up this year with no problems.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by mitchell you mean toskala right?
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by my son has a choice on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No John Mitchell. Missed a hit, caught the boards and hurt his knee.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Berger asks Wilson if he was looking at the shot clock.
Thanks Howie. This is what access brings…
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i wish Wilson would walk over to Berger and rip the mustach right off his face.
by 6rick6 on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i wonder if howard has finally found out the origin of the term “snakebitten” yet
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 24, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joey Mcdonald will be up for practice tomorrow.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can
he score?
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by my son has a choice on Nov 23, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, but only at the local bars.
If God didn't want me to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Leafs released their third-string AHL goalie this week. Perfect timing.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I’m pretty sure Toskala is still with us…
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by Blinky on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well played.
I guess if I said Munro it would have ruined the comedy potential.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Most definitley.
That was a perfect setup.
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by Blinky on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reimer playing great. Bring him up.
by Pyramid Power on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually yer right he is playing well.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
let him continue to play well for the marlies
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All the more reason to keep him playing down there.
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by clrkaitken on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just have no faith in Joey Mac.
by Pyramid Power on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hold on
61 shots? What the fuck? Did the Isles have Roloson AND Biron in net at the same time???
Also… Toskala 3 goals allowed on 15 shots. Good plays by the Isles or the return of ToskaLOL?
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by stucky on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The third was pure ToskaLOL. Second I can’t fault him and the first he was the human statue when somebody went glove hand on a breakaway as per usual.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see the game
so I’m still shocked at the 61 shots and only 3 goals. Was Roloson flat out amazing or were most of the shots Jason Blake specials?
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by stucky on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A little of both.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well put.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Shots
They were all along the ice. Virtually all of them. Even the goals. All 3 goals were scored along the ice. No wonder Toskala looks so dazzled by shots high glove side – he’s never seen one in practice.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Yeah, the options are on the ice or in the logo.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he made at least 15 very good stops, but 25 of them he never even had to move on
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Roloson did his job with a minimum of drama. You know, what a goalie should do.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
he let the game come to him as they say.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
15 very good stops will win most games.
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not letting in 3 goals on 4 shots will also do wonders
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
welp
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed. I miss Allan Bester
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he played some unbelievable games down the stretch for the Oilers last year
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still
I don’t believe he’s that good…
by Kavel Pubina on Nov 23, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he isn’t, the Leafs are just really good at making mediocre goalies look bad-ass…
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by El Monstruo on Nov 23, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he was facing 40+ shot regularly with the Oilers. So I’m not too surprised by the play of Roloson.
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm damn sick and tired
of us making other goalies look like the bastard lovechild of Luongo & Brodeur.
by Kavel Pubina on Nov 23, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of all the goaltenders who have stolen a game from us this year, Roloson’s was by far the best performance I thought.
by general borschevsky on Nov 23, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.. Roloson played well. Leafs were robbed on many occasions
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit
Roloson was good, but I’m still damn sick and tired of goalies turning into Super-Goalie at a moment’s notice against us.
by Kavel Pubina on Nov 23, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but tonight was the real deal. Roloson won the game for the Islanders.
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He Is
Dwayne Roloson is an amazing goaltender.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this
the Oilers really should have re-signed him, Khabibulin was a mistake
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has been an unexpected surprise. Who knew Roloson would have no drop-off in play despite being 40 years old? Definitely impressed with his demeanour and performance in net.
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by bkblades on Nov 23, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
watching him last year, it wasn’t a surprise.
The big question will be next year, at 41…. which is why the Oilers let him walk.
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I undervalued Rollie for sure. But after witnessing CuJo and even Hasek in recent years, I just didn’t think a goalie north of 39 years of age could have played as well as him. I forget who presented the question, but it is very uncommon to see a goalie in his 40s perform well.
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by bkblades on Nov 23, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it is really uncommon. But he shows no signs of slowing down, and given their goalie situation (DiPietro’s injury, the ability to sign Biron as well) it was a minimal risk for them to take.
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a risk
that’s paying off enormously well so far
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dipper, which I have no idea is his nickname, is said to be close to returning. Roloson surely is the starting goalie, right? The Isles have somewhat a mess, not unlike Toronto and their defencemen.
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by bkblades on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he’s close, but isn’t Biron’s contract something like $1 mill?
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by Karina on Nov 24, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Biron, though there’s not a ton of suitors, will look to be traded. But I’m sure the Isles don’t want DiPietro as their back-up for the rest of his contract.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he won’t be, he can back up Roloson this year, and then they ease him back to starting next year while Roloson still is around. It’s win-win.
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by Karina on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s if Dipper doesn’t get injured again, which he seems to have a penchant to do.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I’m looking forward to tomorrow? A fresh round of blogs weighing-in on who should center Kessel now that Mitchell’s hurt.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
three words
bozak bozak bozak
that is all that you will hear
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
Great. Now I can’t write what I had planned. Jerk.
For the record: let Kessel centre himself.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson asked him to
he doesn’t feel comfortable playing centre
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll do it. I’ll answer the call.
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to wear #16 btw
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by Chemmy on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hagman and premeau are wearing my numbers
=(
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mayers
is wearing my number, and so is Schenn.
by Kavel Pubina on Nov 23, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can we start now?
or can we contemplate possible trade partners?
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by El Monstruo on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you contemplate possible trade partners, there’s a formula you have to follow:
1. Propose a balanced, sensible trade that just might work – say the Leafs getting Sopel and a 2nd in return for a 5th or a spare part who’s a pending UFA.
2. Wait for commenters to immediately reply that they’d rather the Leafs get Kane, Sharp, Toews or Keith.
3. Have a long conversation on how awesome those players would be for the Leafs and start targeting them as UFAs to be signed in 2014.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah, we’re targeting, Doughty, Tavares and Stamkos
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Write it up. Estimate that the cap will be $1 billion dollars so the Leafs will have cap room as they’ll have Marleau, Kovalchuk, Kessel, Nash, and Tavares already under contract.
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can we get a goalie as well?
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
toskala and Mayers for Luongo, you heard it hear first
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can we get a goalie that doesn’t choke in the playoffs?
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
darn it. oh wells.
Marleau, Kovalchuk, Kessel, Nash, and Tavares will have to do.
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I reeeeeally want the leafs to snag Marleau in the offseason
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want the Leafs to win a few games they have no business winning. just to see what it feels like
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
Good idea. All future trade proposals must include links to Cap Geek for financial support.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
extra points for showing your work!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a Leaf fan I have no idea what extra point means.
by Clawson on Nov 23, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
bazing
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Saves me 15 minutes figuring out why that wouldn’t make any sense every time…
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by clrkaitken on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
get disappointed the following season
and repeat…
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by El Monstruo on Nov 23, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or will Niittymaki make 80 saves?
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if the Leafs buy out a contract, half of that contract becomes a cap hit, right?
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by El Monstruo on Nov 23, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There’s a formula that you can find at Cap Geek.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the leafs should not be buying out anyone at all
if anything they should be waived, they will count against the cap for far less time
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and waiving players is much more fun and insulting.
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by Kerry Fraser on Nov 23, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As I understand it there’s a buy-out window after the cup and before free agency opening. Can’t buy a guy out mid-year.
The formula for buy-outs is 2/3s the contract over twice the term (so Blake would be on the books another four years instead of the two left on his contract).
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by mf37 on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think my sweater's cursed
i lost it after i moved and they won two in a row. then i found it and they’ve only won one game.
by leaflover4ever on Nov 23, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
burn it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 23, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would, but it would be hard to watch the leaf logo burning.
by leaflover4ever on Nov 23, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just follow the same procedure for getting rid of an old flag.
Burn it in a private and dignified way.
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by PPP on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by eyebleaf on Nov 23, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thank goodness you’re still optimistic
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by Karina on Nov 23, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can pretty much guarantee that the Leafs will lead the league in games they should have won but didn’t by the end of the year. What’s the over/under on that stat, and by how many games do we “win” this made-up stat by?
by Belligerent Burkie on Nov 23, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure, but I wasn’t even sure Toronto deserved to win this game until maybe mid-second period. The team was down 3-0 at one point, despite the inflated shot totals. All in all, exciting game, but I can’t think of the games Toronto fully deserved to win and came away with the loss. The first game of the season definitely is one.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I usually don’t think that shot totals determine who should have won, but if you were to be told that you would outshoot your opponents 3-1, you’d probably expect to walk away with a win after, no?
by Belligerent Burkie on Nov 24, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Valid point, and I was probably being too hard on the Leafs. Definitely I expected the Leafs to win the game after 60+ shots. I guess I felt the shots weren’t too difficult to save, but regardless, the Leafs deserved a better fate than giving up an overtime goal in the dying seconds.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst part about that late goal (other than it costing us the game of course) is that Ian White’s SV% is no longer 1.000
by Belligerent Burkie on Nov 24, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Johnson, sports reporter from the Canadian Press just twittered:
There were scouts from 19 different NHL teams at tonight’s #leafs-#islanders game.
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by mf37 on Nov 24, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I assume the Islanders are about to make a trade
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, right on cue
Maybe they wanted to see how Martin Biron looks like sitting on the bench. “Yes, absolutely. I can totally see him with his cap on on our lineup.”
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t imagine who they were scouting from the Leafs team.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the sportsnet ppl said hagman
by leaflover4ever on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
If they can get something good for him I advocating freeing him to enjoy playing for a good team.
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but that one would hurt… although I’m on board with your “if they can get something good for him” caveat.
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by Karina on Nov 24, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping it was for Exelby, but that’s probably way too ambitious.
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by bkblades on Nov 24, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hagman would be first on my list
I’d also think Poni was getting a look, nobody should be off-limits. Players that have actually been OK I can see being moved favourably, and I hope Burke doesn’t hold out for the moon.
by koopa kid on Nov 24, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what would be the normal number of scouts at any NHL game? Must be a few at everygame I would think.
by Another Good Kingston Boy on Nov 24, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Today's WOTD on Google
is Ruck, which seems to aptly describe the Leafs:
ruck (noun) A crowd especially of ordinary or undistinguished persons or things.
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by Karina on Nov 24, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
Fanshot that as a quote and I’ll promote that to the front-page
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“The Ruck” is also a fictional term for the wild forests of Mars after they’ve been terraformed in the novel Menace Under Marswood. :)
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by kidkawartha on Nov 24, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what happens...
… when your team is made up mostly of pluggers who can’t put the puck in the net. Truculence!
by BillBerg4Ever on Nov 24, 2009 5:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome
Thanks for joining. You just missed your Leaf of the Day!
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by PPP on Nov 24, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny Thing About Vesa...
well not really that funny, but I was watching the game on pvr delay when Vesa was standing on his head and playing well… and I said to myself “This is when Vesa teases everyone – but let’s wait and see how handles things when it goes bad”..
then it’s 3 goals on 3 shots and he’s “injured” .. that’s why he’ll never be a good goalie in this league. he cannot handle the down swings.
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