Leafs No Turkeys
by blurr1974 on Nov 26, 2009 5:00 AM EST
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The feel good vibe we're building here extended all the way down to Tampa Bay last night, and the result? A Leafs win.
Lots to like about the game, but even more to like about the links, so lets get to it. Oh, and before I go, happy gobble gobble to our American friends. I'll be stuffing my face with turkey in Orange County today, and may take in a Ducks game (it's a poultry theme...) tomorrow. Have a good one gang.
- Those Zambonic Youth guys talk and talk and talk. But, at least they talk about cool stuff, like Star Wars. Oh, and the Leafs too.
- Jared recaps the win, succinctly.
- Hungry Leafs Fan has unlocked the secret to the Leafs success.
- Over at Leafs Rumination, puckurgently is speaking out on a very important topic.
- Leafs Fan Forever asks the Hagman question. I can only assume the answer is "awesome."
- MLHS gang recaps the game and takes a closer look at a few players.
- TSM has all the MSM takes on the undying Brendan Burke story.
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USA USA!
My girlfriend is a yankee and she left me and our dog to party with her family in San Fran for a week (or two). So, as a Canadian, today I want to give thanks for the great country of the United States of America and all her citizens who make it so.
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Nov 26, 2009 5:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Ducks 3 – Canes 2
Giving us back sole possession of 29th, with a game in hand on the Canes.
We’re coming for you, Minnesota!
Resident Capologist
Just wanted to propose a trade...
White and Hagman for Jordan Staal.
Another winger for Malkin/Crosby. Stabilizes their defense. Equal money between exchanged. Maybe throw in Stajan/Mitchell for their third-line in the middle.
Any objections?
People just went crazy all of a sudden on this ‘trade Hagman’ idea, and I don’t know who came up with it, but it’s got to stop. Hagman is one of our best players, and shouldn’t be going ANYWHERE until at very least the trade deadline. Even then, unless we get a king’s ransom, there’s not much point in making a hole where he was playing to land a prospect and a 2nd rounder.
if hagman was like 3 or 4 years older id say trade him at the deadline but he is still young enough to keep his production going until the end of his contract at the very least. if they trade him for anything less than an A prospect ill be pissed
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Nov 26, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
the thing is
sometimes you have to give up something good, to get something even better.
Also, feel free to speculate trades you’d like to see on here. Just see Godd Till’s rules re: making it realistic.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
If Hagman has his career year then we should trade the shit out of him at the deadline.
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But for Hagman and White I want a lot more back than Jordan Staal.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
yes
but that’s not happening, the Pens have weathered their incredible string of injuries to defensemen.
If Hagman keeps this up, he’ll be an excellent trading peice at the deadline.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
indeed ship him to a bubble team for a ransom
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
jared, what would you want back? Its hard to guage what a player is worth these days, antro and moore both got 2nds, id want more than a 2nd for sure
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 26, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
it’d probably be more than a 2nd based on the fact that his contract doesn’t expire at the end of this year
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
yeah, I think (if Hagman continues to play at this pace) he would be worth a high first or a 2nd and a decent prospect
but i dont think he’d net that
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t want Jordan Staal because he’s not that good.
Hard to look bad when you’re behind Malkin and Crosby as a center. Staal plays easy easy easy minutes.
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he really is cushioned by easy minutes and the fact there is no pressure on him at all. If he has a shit game, it doesn’t matter unless Crosby and Malkin do the same.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 26, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention that he has two more points than Hagman has goals.
Hagman AND White? Nope.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
I think people that want him are dazzled by his draft position.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
The thing is, a 2nd doesn’t seem like enough for Haggy, but I don’t think that many teams would be willing to part with a 1st to bring him in. That is, unless he has a career year.
He’s probably worth more to us than to anyone else. Typical problem.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
yeah, that’s what will hurt his value on the market. To a contender, he’s a spare part winger dropped in at the deadline to pop some goals and add depth. To us, he’s a critical piece of our top 6. Other than Kessel, maybe Poni, only Hagman will truly be a goal scoring threat out there for the Leafs.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 26, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I BELEAF
Not to be confused with Eyebleaf
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I haven’t heard anything,
But I feel less worried about it if Beauchemin keeps playing like this.
This is the guy I was excited to have on the back end.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
/spurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
if they both play to the level burke expected when he signed them, our D will be in great shape.
it’s too bad Schenn’s taken a bit of turn for the worse this year, but Ian White’s really been a nice surprise, and Gunnarson, so I guess that evens it out a bit.
Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.
I think Schenn will turn it around. He was great last year I really doubt it was a fluke. The sophomore slump is a common phenomenon every agrees exists until it happens to one of their rookies and then it’s panic time.
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agreed chemmy, Schenn will still be a stud. It would have to be a bust of epic proportions (woahh!) for him to fail
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 26, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I actually like that Wilson is trying to weather the storm of Luke’s struggles by giving him softer minutes. The kid is burdened by the immense expectations his excellent rookie campaign garnered. It might take him this season to truly learn what it means to be a pro.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 26, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
he does. I think people see the dip in his total minutes as a slight or a comment on his play (it’s not perfect but he’s 20 and learning), I see it as Burke went out and got 2 veteran d-men to swallow minutes and lead by example. One turned the corner only to get hurt, the other has been excellent this week, especially last night. Schenn will learn from them, that is part of the reason they are here.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
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by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 26, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
indeed, and there are only so many minuites to go around
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
thats why sopel only comes if he brings something to the leafs of value to them
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, you take sopel only for that reason. Hawks balked at the demands, Leafs giggled at their offer. Dead deal.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
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by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 26, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
indeed, some of the best trades are the ones you never make
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle for Carter + 1st?
(hehehe… sorry…)
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Kaberle for JVR and a first!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
heh yea, they dont need Kabby with Pronger, plus they dont have any firsts left!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Gunnarson
I read a quote from Wilson this morning saying Gunnar was the best defenceman in camp, but they didn’t have room for him. What is that about? This suggests the whole accountability deal is a load of crap. Not that this is a new story, just more evidence.
by Leaf in Habland on Nov 26, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
It suggests that waivers is a very real concept that people need to learn and understand.
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I’m excited for crlaitken’s post (did I spell his name right?) Trying to read through the CBA to figure it all out is mind-numbing.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
its up
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
You did not. But we’re cool, so I’ll let it slide ;p
I actually relaly enjoyed researching this. The ins and outs of the CBA really intrigue me, and I’m very interested in the management and business side of the game. It’s somewhere I could really see myself trying to move once I get the CA stuff out of the way. (One more week till the results come out; time is moving backwards)
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What is the point of making threats about accountability if you can’t/don’t back them up, regardless of whether or not the reason is waiver issues?
by Leaf in Habland on Nov 26, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Because players know that waivers are a consideration.
Burke is saying that there are situations where the impact is negative enough that he’ll ignore waivers.
To be honest, the only player I’d say has been bad enough to waive is Toskala.
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Fair enough, my point was just to point out that even the coach recognizes that our best players are not the ones who make the team. Whether it is a waiver issue or not is beside the point. Actually it only reinforces the pointlessness of the accountability argument if you have to be really really bad to be sent down, and not just worse than another, younger, cheaper player.
by Leaf in Habland on Nov 26, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
There are different forms of accountability. Wilso has been rewarding people with better linemates, PP time, and more ice-time. Conversely, he’s benched players and put them in worse situations when they are bad.
Demoting players that are not waiver eligible is largely a cut your nose off to spite your face situation.
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On Komisarek’s return, this is what Wilson said:
"We do things, if you can, on merit," Wilson said after the Leafs practice on Thursday in preparation for Friday’s game against the Florida Panthers. "Somebody else is going to have to come out of the lineup when [Komisarek] is ready to play. It’s not going to be Carl, I can tell you that."
The most likely candidate is Garnet Exelby, who has been rotating in and out of the lineup most of the season with fellow veteran Jeff Finger. Finger had just established himself in the lineup ahead of Exelby when he suffered an undisclosed injury to his lower body in last Saturday’s 2-1 win over the Washington Capitals.
Notice his little provisio of “if we can”. There’s limitations to what you can do, it does really suck that we can’t ice the best team that we have player-wise, though.
Also, it looks like Blake is being put on notice, he was back on the 4th line in practice today.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
Blake with Mayers and Orr is a hilarious combo.
by general borschevsky on Nov 26, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
blake should be as much of a pest as he can with those 2 beside him. he should just crash the net and agitate the hell out of everyone and just have orr an dmayers back him up
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 27, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Happy Thanksgiving
I was a little late with my recap but it’s up now.
by Rock Outta SoCal on Nov 26, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions
Do you think...
…we could all agree to call it the “undead Brendan Burke story” (instead of “undying”). It would give this story a frisson of excitement, you know, with the possible involvement of a zombie, vampire or werewolf.
Just a suggestion.
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
Brendan: “Dad… I have something to tell you… I’m… I’m a gay zombie.”
[awkward pause]
Brian: “Not sure how to feel about this one, to be honest with you.”
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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 26, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t raise no brain eating zombie for a son.
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…and in this fashion, DGB begins his work on writing the next George Romero movie. This one’s gonna have a kind of “Twilight” feel to it, I think.
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
by jrwendelman on Nov 26, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Oh jr
You are a genius for coming up with this idea. I hope you will donate your brain to science, so future generations may benefit from your brilliance.
My heart needs a lapdance, does your heart need some romance?
This is not the first time I’ve heard the suggestion that scientists study my brain. But “genius” wasn’t the word they used in that conversation…
jrwendelman
The Artist Formerly Known as "Junior", who blogs at heroesinrehab.ca/blog
"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
by jrwendelman on Nov 26, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t worry about them and their hating – I heard that haterade is chiefly comprised of ‘damn they jealous’.
My heart needs a lapdance, does your heart need some romance?
Welcome
Thanks for joining :P
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Thanks. I would have joined sooner, but you are such a meanie :P
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You said you liked the [Tlusty Level 451]!
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Komisarek
Slated to come back Nov. 30, apparently.
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Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 26, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions
Really, I have to be the one to say it?
At least he is coming back in November….
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 26, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
all November jokes were banned as of the 1st of this month ;)
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
I thought they were good until December… or at least until the end of American Thanksgiving
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 26, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
November 30th these jokes end. Come hell or mass banning.
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it wont matter if its funny or not
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 26, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Cause then we get to talk about NEXT November
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 26, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Dec 1 we play the Habs. Should be good.
by Leaf in Habland on Nov 26, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
oh no
so the Kings signed Brayden Schenn to a One Day Amateur Try-Out contract, so he’s playing against the Canucks tonight…. this was the worst thing they could do, ’cause now people know we can do this:
Habnotwonin15
can you do this. Common Burke bring up Kadri
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
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