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I must temper my expectations.
I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations. I must temper my expectations.
"Sanity is not statistical." - George Orwell, a Leafs fan...
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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions
I just left a comment on Mirtle’s site that was kinda the same but kinda the opposite.
by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
i agree with your expectations
3 goals is definitely a disappointment
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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
yayay!!
think he’ll play limited minutes tonight?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions
So I just realised, nobody has come up with a nickname for Kessel yet (that I am aware of)…. Why is this?
A few were tossed around but nothing stuck.
Parsec for one.
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what the heck is an aluminum falcon?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wait a sec, you’ve been flying around for two weeks trying to get a signal?… Oh, you must smell like… feet wrapped in leathery, burnt bacon…
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
You want million dollar? You win crazy smile face million dollar!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
A parsec was a unit of distance, not time. Solo was not referring directly to his ship’s speed when he made this claim. Instead, he was referring to the shorter route he was able to travel by skirting the nearby Maw black hole cluster, thus making the run in under the standard distance. By moving closer to the black holes, Solo managed to cut the distance down to about 11.5 parsecs.
by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I like that its Solo, as in SOLO TESTICLE!!!!! /pointing out the obvious.
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rec’d for sheer star wars geekary
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Ya Know
And Fargo was nother
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i believe it is
and when Bozak, Hanson and Stalberg are all called up, they’re the Sexcopters.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Kessticle and the Sexcopters sounds like a punk band.
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Phillip!!!1
I don’t even care if he scores, I just want to see him play in a Leafs jersey!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Maybe now I can change my display picture to an ACTUAL one of keseel rather than a screenshot I grabbed from NHL10.. that is until my Ian White jersey comes and it will be me, wearing the jersey, with a fake moustache.
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Don’t do it! Your NHL10 screen-cap is f’ing sweet.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Can you make me one of Grabbo?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’m listening to the Fan590 and Mike Brophy is willing to give Kessel “a game or two of grace” before he starts putting up big numbers.
Nothing like having an understanding of the situation and tempering expectations.
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Geez
What an idiot. Major Surgery + 6 month layoff = slow start.
He might put up points on the PP but anything else is a bonus to start.
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Berger is on now on the air saying when you evaluate this deal, it doesn’t matter if Boston blows the picks for Kessel. If that’s the case, I’m not sure I understand how one does evaluate this deal.
Brophy also said the deal was a bad deal because Kessel didn’t make The Hockey News top 50 players. Ugh.
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i think it's been determined
the MSM is the definition of “attention whore”
i applaud those of you who continue to listen to these guys. i can’t do it…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
me either
one reason I’m glad I’m not in TO
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
instead you have to deal with the “blowing smoke up our fans asses” vancouver media….yay.
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
but I don’t feel impelled to listen to them ‘cause they don’t cover my team
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough, it would still drive me nuts though
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I had some time to kill between meetings/calls and flipped on the radio. I’m not a regular listener and today’s show is certainly confirming why I think 99% of sports radio blows chunks.
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all i hear is “here are 3 or 4 guys who have a mild background in the sport with easy to listen to voices or bizarre mental conditions, here they are ranting and pretending they know what they are talking about”
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
There just isn’t a reply to stupidity like that. Honestly, it’s mind-boggling.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Who is Phil Kessel?
Ha ha.
Guys I saw a stat this morning which I posted a story around at BoO. Not sure if it’s already floated around these parts but Marc Savard only assisted on 6 of Phil Kessel’s 36 goals.
So you know, maybe Matt Stajan can carry the torch after all?
may i point your attention towards this?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Stajan had 40 assists last season. Zetterberg = 42 Spezza = 41 Lecavalier = 38 Kopitar = 39.
Surely he can get the puck to Kessel.
Nearly 70% of Stajan’s assists were secondary. I don’t think he’s the straw that stirs the drink.
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as long as Stajan can hit him in the neutral zone when he is flying i think he’ll be ok, stajan is usually pretty good at finding the streaking player. he isnt very good at dishing from traffic
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
No matter how you slice it, Stajan is no Savard (or Zetterberg, Spezza, Lecavalier or Kopitar).
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maybe Kessel will make Stajan look good enough to get something awesome for him at the dead line
that is the max of my stajan hope
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
But if Stajan and Phillip Ontakos gel, why would we want to trade Staj?
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But if Stajan and Phillip Ontakos gel, why would we want to trade Staj?
Because Stajan is a soft turn-over machine who’s peak is a third line centre. If the Leafs can get something of value for him, pull the trigger.
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this
Stajan is at best a good 3rd line center who can pull 2nd line duties and play the PK
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
id take a second from a bottom feeder IF I thought the Leafs had someone who could step in and play at least as well as he can, right now I dont think they do
Bozak might be as good, probably better, but you dont get rid of an asset before you are sure you can do without it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think a 2nd is a reach. That’s what the Leafs got for Moore and Antro who are arguably better players.
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Nope. I’d rather have Moore than Stajan.
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Moore works harder.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he had an injury
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
So did Toskala, he’s playing SOOO much better without it. If a player is well enough to play, they can’t use an injury as an excuse.
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Toskala’s best play came with his injury.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
no
his 10 game stretch last year when he played rather well, was after the injury was made known, and before they shut him down.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I was talking about last year, and also, that statement counteracts your Moore point.
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He played 81 games last season. When was he injured?
by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
reports
were that he had a wrist injury at the end of the season.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
A-ha!
You are right:
Turns out, he and the Sabres should have looked deeper into the ailment. Moore fractured his wrist shortly after being acquired at the trade deadline last season.
“We didn’t really realize it. I don’t know if he realized it,” Sabres coach Lindy Ruff said. “For Dominic, I think that obviously hindered him when he was with us.”
by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a pretty ridiculous argument, if he didn’t realize it how could it have hindered him? That’s like my saying that ED is effecting my sex life, whilst at the same time I am getting erections and having sex.
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and he made Blake look good, something stajan hasnt been able to touch
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Blake made himself look good. Blake is fast as shit and a puck hog. He’d be better off on a line with a couple of brawlers that just want to dig the puck out of nasty places (NSFW) and otherwise have no desire to touch it (NSFW)
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Blake looked MUCH better with Moore as his center, he has looked good the past couple games, but nothing like he did at times last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I’d take 2008 Dominic Moore over Matt Stajan in a heartbeat, but I’m not sure about now. He has no points in 5 games, and he’s a -5.
Stajan works pretty hard too. I don’t think anyone can fault his work ethic or his attitude.
by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
he has
some incredibly lazy stretches.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Stajan works pretty hard too. I don’t think anyone can fault his work ethic or his attitude.
Agred.
I fault his weak on the puck, lazy penalties, passes to nowhere.
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yeah
if we can get a 2nd for Stajan, I’ll be over the moon.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
If Stajan “makes kessel look good” it is implied that he will be setting Kessel up all year. How could we afford to lose him down the stretch and possibly hurt Kessel if we don’t have another playmaking centre to replace him?
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I’d argue you have the equation backwards – Kessel will be making Stajan look good.
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Okay so you’re saying that basically we could put any of our centres with Kessel and they would be just as effective at feeding him passes?
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Stajan is probably the most consistant passer, grabbo is better at it, he just doesnt like to pass unless it looks fancy
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
well duh, someone SHOULD be there
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Usually in our case it ends up being the other team.
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Kessel will be there
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
But he’s not the kind of guy you set up in the slot for tap-ins, he needs to get the puck in the neutral zone on the rush… something neither Grabo or Mitchell’s style of play suits. They both like to carry it in and pass it.
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this sounds like
he just need Kaberle feeding him the puck in the neutral zone.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
That is also what I think, though if that is the case than this entire thread is moot, as Kessel probably won’t make Stajan look good, since his passes will come from Kabby.
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Oh, I donno if I’d give Grabbo the nod over Stajan. They were BOTH dropping passes off in the middle of BF nowhere last game.
i think Kessel and grabbo would work well together, Kessel is fast enough to keep up with grabbo and smart enough to get to the spots where grabbo thinks he should be
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, Kessel has serious wheels. I’m willing to bet that Kessel is the fastest skater we’ve seen since Mike Gartner.
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yup…thats what Im getting at.
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well, not any centre, but if Stajan excels with Kessel it will have more to do with Kessel than Stajan.
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Exactly, but we would still be without a Stajan for the rest of the season. Unless we could trade Stajan for a draft pick AND a playmaking centre, of course (because that’s so likely)
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I’m ok being without a third line centre struggling as a first line pivot.
Also opens a roster spot for one of the Marlies to come up and have a shot.
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BO-ZAK-TLY!
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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, its just that if he’s playing well with Kessel and its working, especially if the team has turned things around, why change it?
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I agree, its just that if he’s playing well with Kessel and its working, especially if the team has turned things around, why change it?
1. Stajan’s trade value will never be higher
2. He’s a pending UFA and his salary requests will be out of line with his performance
3. He’s not the type of player you build a team around
4. Kessel will be playing on the top line, in terms of size, strength, and overall play Stajan is not a top line C
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If you’re thinking long term than this all makes sense. I’m just saying that if we turn things around and have a chance at the postseason, wouldn’t it be better to keep him and then maybe trade his rights for a late rounder if he wants too much money?
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eh
I’d rather trade him for future assets and give someone else his spot, take the risks.
I honeslty don’t see Stajan being the player that puts us over the top and into the post season.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well I gues you are just looking at things differently than I am. We both have valid points if looking at if from our own point of view.
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No.
Just kidding.
I’m with Karina. Stajan isn’t going to put this club over the top. He’s a pending UFA, if he wants to much he’s gone.
I strongly believe that Stajan is replaceable. If he can do it with Kessel, any of the Leafs prospects likely can too.
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he has to hit that bonus first
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhhh.
I thought that there was a certain amount of cap space that bonus pay took up even before he got them.
no
bonuses can roll over into the next season’s cap, I believe…
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
yah, i think thats why the cap has bonus flexibility, something liek 15 percent of all bonus achieved dont count against the cap
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
Kessel will be creating scoring chances from lazy plays that Stajan makes.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think anyone’s here to argue that. He’s been a particularly bad passer of late – all kinds of dumb turnovers the last game or two. But I do think that he’s capable of getting Kessel the puck often enough to make him dangerous.
Savard assisted on over 20 of Kessel’s goals. Too lazy to look it up, but I think it’s 22.
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maybe that was 6 primary assists?
i cant be bothered to look it up either
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
About 65% of of Kessel’s points came with Savard on the ice. That said, Archimedes video shows that Kessel really excelled at creating offense.
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http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/savarma01/scoring/2009/
Search for Kessel, then count.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Better Idea: Sort by description. 22 of Savard’s points came on Kessel goals, of which he was primary assist on 17.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
thank you for letting me be lazy and not look it up
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Important Fact:
Centers often pass the puck to one of their linemates so that they may shoot the puck in hopes of scoring.
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by Curt S on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the tip.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Just pointing out that the whole Marc Savard is soooo good and Kessel sucks argument can be attributed to nearly any good center-winger combo in the league. Centers are supposed to pass to their wingers; it’s their job.
So of course, being linemates for all of last season, Savard would only naturally have assisted on a lot of Kessel’s goals. That’s what he’s supposed to do.
I’m agreeing with Archi in that I believe the “Marc Savard Effect” is way overblown.
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i like pointing out the Phil Kessel effect, that Kessel turned a lot of those savard passes into goals
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
indeed, you put two good players together, more likely than not they will both benefit from it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
or that
Savard’s best years have always been with a pure scorer on his wing, ie. Kovalchuck.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
He’s really good at putting the puck on someone’s stick where they’ll score from. Obviously pure scorers are going to finish more often than non-scorers
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
it’s a back and forth thing… scorers get more goals when they have a player who can get them the puck in the right place, and playmakers get more points with pure goal scorers…
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
They worked really well together. How’s that?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
really?
heh, like playing on the same line, or just being able to have 3 centers that good?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Savard and his linemates
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m confused.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Savard and his linemates
worked really well together.
Was the complete thought I was trying to get out.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
ahhh
still don’t see how Bergeron fits into that.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
If you’ll follow the thread of the conversation, you’ll see that I’m not arguing at 17 first assists and 5 second assists on 36 goals means that Kessel won’t score without Savard.
Savard does have more points than Kessel right now, though………..Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
haha
how much longer is he out for?
Is Bergeron looking good enough that they’ll let Savard walk this summer?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Bergeron is looking awesome but I have a feeling they’ll try to keep Savard.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I want Bergeron so bad.
Why make him your 3rd center???
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
bergeron is awesome, his health scares me
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
He’s more defensively responsible/good than Krejci I guess. He’s also playing first-line while Savard is out.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
I see no reason for them to pay Savard $5 mill next year when Bergeron can fill his space so well.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I see no reason not to keep Savard. He’s damn good, and I’d say better than Bergeron.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Karina!
The bergeron thread is down here!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, we’re just doing all we can to convince ourselves that this was a good deal and will be the best thing ever for the Leafs, nothing against you
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
And I’m trying to convince myself thaTAYLOR HALL
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
TROLL
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
nah, your getting a cam fowler at best, no way we finish lower than the islanders
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Islanders have 4 wins in a row.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Islanders have won four straight beating the Rangers, Capitals, Sabres and Oilers.
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
They took almost as long as us to get their first win, and now they are WIN.. = PLAYOFFS!!1
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You’ll get Hall with your own pick.
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thing is, just say that did happen, you know there are people out there who will insist the leafs gave the bruins taylor hall
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs took bruins best player, bruins suck a lot, bruins get Taylor hall with their own pick, Leafs gave Bruins Taylor Hall… sounds good to me.
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Chara, Savard, Thomas were our best players last year, I’d say. Kessel was our top goal-scorer.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
If you guys somehow ended up with your own pick being 1st overall, I’m sure some people would make the argument that Kessel was a big part of it.
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boston is not going to finish dead last…. c’mon…
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I know… I was just following along with Chemmy’s humourous statement.
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I’d make the argument that Axelsson was the glue that held the team together, personally.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
boston isnt nearly as scary without lucic in the lineup
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they’re being killed by the injuries to Savard and Lucic
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah and it sucks right now but Lucic and Savard will be back soon enough. And Sturm is no slouch when he’s healthy.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
Kessel was a loss, but worth it given the picks they got, and Sturm’s return to health.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t count your chickens until they hatch, those picks could be a couple of busts.
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I don’t even know if you think that is a good thing or a bad thing.
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thats the thing with picks, they arent a sure thing. the masses in toronto seem to think that we are giving up 2 franchise players who will dominate in the NHL for years. Most likley they will turn into guys like steen and carlo, or at best, antropov.
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/knocks on wood
good thing wood is never far away when thinking about Kessel playing and the Monster starting tonight…
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sure
but it is a risk worth taking in a Cap world.
WIth no cap, I don’t think that the bruins even bat an eye at re-signing Kessel.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
the leafs could sign everyone in a non cap world
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yeah
really worked out well for us too, didn’t it?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
but we didnt draft and develop a team, we bought it. im willing to wait and see it done properly
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I think with the state of the economy and how poorly a lot of teams are doing financially, we could buy a team much easier now than we could before.
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yeah
but Cap or no Cap, still no Cup
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
the one remaining peice from the thornton deal
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didn't
they get Stuart as well?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Brad Stuart, not our current Mark Stuart.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Stuart was the 1st round pick the leafs traded for owen nolan
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there was also brad boyes….
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
this always confuses me to no end.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Also, don’t confuse either for Colin Stuart.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
The way we’re playing now? We’ll get like 6-10th overall with our own pick.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Funny Story
The reason you read that is because Doug McLean ripped off Gus’ post at MLHS on the topic and then completely misrepresented Gus’ conclusion (Savard was solely responsible for 6 goals out of 22 he helped create).
The Sun is going to publish a correction and maybe Arch knows if anything else happened to Doug but I heard he got a talking to about Intellectual Property Rights
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
oh doug McLean, you silly silly man
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
for real?
oh man, Doug McLean!
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
the former GM of the Blue Jackets is what we’re talking about, right?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I DRAFTED RICK NASH!!!1
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
sorry
I can’t fathom how anyone could feel anything positive towards him.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
he is terrible, bordering on milbury/strachan terrible
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
he’s waaaaaaay worse that Milbury.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I hate Milbury more than any other sports personality
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Im more of an anti-Strachan guy myself. The guy is a filthy friggin liar.
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he reminds me of vincinzi, and that amuses the hell out of me
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
INCONCEIVABLE!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Does that mean everytime I say ‘PLAYOFFS!!1’ I’m going to get a stern talking to? Cuz I love saying PLAYOFFS!!!!1
Who’s IPR is that?
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Eye is a man hell bent on revenge, you best bewares!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
he’s gotta show up to exact revenge
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
does he?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Eyebleaf's
I think the issue is that he got on the radio and said that this information had not been presented anywhere on tv or radio.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Doug McLean ripped off Gus’ post at MLHS on the topic and then completely misrepresented Gus’ conclusion
I completely missed this – does anyone have links?
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Just a second
In the comments here (sorry, can’t link to direct comment)
Star Article by Zeisberger
Sun Article by Loewen
Both articles used the erroneous 6 assists (since corrected) figure that Gus came up with as the ones that Savard created that anyone would have scored.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t take credit for noticing it. MLHS has some sharp-eared commenters.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
But you did just go through the work of creating a three link post to clear something up and you deserve credit for that
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I’ll take that credit.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I hate to say it, because I do LOVE when the media plagirize and rip-off blogs, I don’t see the big deal here.
MacLean’s mis-statement is just further evidence of his idiocy.
Loewen’s Sun piece attributes the stat to the Bruins, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that’s where he got it (why we would he falsely cite it?)
Zwolinski’s piece in the Star doesn’t cite where he got the numbers from, but that doesn’t mean he lifted it from MLHS. When the deal went down, loads of people had the math on Kessel goals/Savard assists (I tweeted and re-tweeted it as did Mirtle).
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The stats are corrected now. I don’t think the implication is that the papers lifted it but that they caught wind of the erroneous 6 assist stat from McLean who is, in fact, an idiot.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Sneaky of them to fix the stats after the fact.
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Per Jonas Siegel, the Poni-Grabo-Kulemin line has been reunited.
Oh hell yeah.
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Fucking right
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
nice
but this leaves Mitchell with Stepniak and….?
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hagman
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hagman?
wow that sounds like punishment for two of our best players so far this year…
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
They’re playing together. Tada!
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haha
we’ll see. I have such mixed feelings about Mitchell right now. Though those two guys could elevate his play.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hagman makes who ever he plays with better, i am comfortable with him on any line that isnt the 4th
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
The Leafs offense
Runs on a 2A-2B-2C-4 line structure anyhow. Might change slightly with Kessel, to 1-2A-2B-4.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
heh
Kessel, as good as he is, isn’t good enough to make them a #1 line on their own right now.
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh, the comments scroll a little differently in the site redesign.
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What’s the deal with the redesign? Is it an SB nation thing? Doesn’t look as clean.
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Yes
SBN-wide.
They are working on SBN 3.0 though so this is just a placeholder.
Word on the street is that the move from 2.0 to 3.0 will be even huger than the move from 1.0 to 2.0.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
oh good
‘cause this one seems kind’ve half done, I was wondering…
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
The changes have not gone over too well with the majority.
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
the titles are waaaaay too big
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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t let the blue smoke escape!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
When I logged in this morning and saw the formatting, the first thing that popped into my head was: This kind of looks like Bleacher Report. On account of the no frills, very bland feel to it all.
They call me Splodeybones.
its bleacher report
just took on a new meaning, what it is…I do not know
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ouch
That was just mean :(
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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
So...
…how many minutes into tonight’s game until Matt Stajan starts being compared to Marc Savard and this therefore considered inferior?
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i cant take it anymore, the kessel talk on the radio and tv is driving me nuts. the fact that he wont score 40 and make the leafs a cup contender this year is all they talk about! that and the fact that we dont have marc savard. FUCK MARC SAVARD
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Stajan had 40 assists feeding the puck to Antropov and Poni last season.
He’s no Savard, but he’ll do.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
he’ll have to
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
consdiering kessel has more finish than either of those 2 stajans numbers could actually increase
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And Antropov will suck in Atlanta.
STAJAN MADE HIM! HE HAS NO STAJAN NOW LOLOLOLOL!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
dude
check his stats
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