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Raptors Nation should feel free to start trash talking about winning when they've won more than a single playoff series in 14 years.

Neat logo though. "The Raptors." I bet thirteen year olds thought that was the coolest in 95.

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WTF! now the raps are trashing the leafs!? they are owned by the same freaking company! what the hell is wrong with this picture?!

The raps are f’n pathetic themselves!

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Probably done by a Raptors fan, not MLSE.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dont they know basketball sucks?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true… it must be

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how empty Raptors games would be if you didn’t have to buy Raptors tickets with your Leafs PSL.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

exactly. raptors are a joke.

Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.

by daoust on Nov 3, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i wish they would take down every peice of raptors related material at the ACC.

I hate seeing a picture of some raptor beside a picture of Syl Apps with the cup, its just plain wrong. You look into the rafters and see leaf legends and cup victories, then some ugly purple raptor banner…..

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there would still be quite a bit. It definitely won’t be anywhere near as empty as the Nets, Atlanta (before they got good) or other smaller market NBA teams. I think the Raptors actually have a decent fan base and won’t have a big problem selling tickets.

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by Hungry Leafs Fan on Nov 3, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alternate slogan:

Leafs Nation: We’ve Got Luke Schenn, Raptors Nation. Who The Hell Do You Have?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chris Bosh.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Besides him.

Also, he might be bailing after this season, so yeah.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

New slogan:

“The Toronto Raptors: Grooming Future Stars for Someone Else’s Team Since 1995”

Identical to Sergei Berezin in every way, only 1/10 his size.

From Russia with GLOVE SIDE!

by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so what you're saying

is we’re like the Sabres of the NHL?

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

????

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the sabres

who can never re-sign the players they develop ie. Campbell, Briere.
Drury doesn’t really count I guess.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alternate slogan:

Who the fuck are the raptors?

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I actually think this pretty funny.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it is funny…. it just isnt true

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure it’s true. They prefer winning. I prefer having chicken wings and cold beer brought to me by a scantily clad blonde cheerleader with no vocal chords. Both of these things are true, even if neither of us actually gets much of what we prefer.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Cut and pasted for use in future blackmail scheme.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sorry dgb, your right . i was replacing ‘prefer’ with ‘are always’

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be funnier if the Raptors were in any way more successful or better than the Leafs.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

I give credit for the cleverness, but it’s not the like the Raptors are world-beaters

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably wife beaters though :P

by Theodles on Nov 3, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We all prefer winning.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well I was 10 in 95

but yeah, I did think it was pretty rad.

A Leafs fan stuck in western Canada.

by doggit on Nov 3, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jurrasic park had everything to do with the naming of this team

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still doesn’t explain the purple.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Purple was cool in 95.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Y’know, how like in the 80’s orange and blue were real awesome together?

No one told the Islanders or the Oilers, and no one told the Raptors about their colors either.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My high school colours were orange and blue. I see no problem with this.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

think prince...

crawling towards the camera… raptors basketball, sexy!

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by BlueBuds on Nov 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing as how it's taking forever to state the obvious,

THIS is the reason for the purple.

Which, of course, tells you everything you need to know about the Raptors. Raptors fans are all really big children’s show freaks.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a raptor never even existed the way they portray it in the movie, a real raptor was small and had feathers. it was almost like a chicken lizard

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

enough of your reality!
Next you’re gonna say you also can’t clone dinosaurs from the blood sucked my a mosquito that has been preserved in amber!
It’s all crazy talk!

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as long as there is a theme park where i can be hunted and hunt

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tomarrow it will be torn down and turned into a wildlife preserve, where i will hunt the most dangerous game of all…..man

Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That

by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bobcats and Huskies were the other frontrunners. I’d have preferred either.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huskies has some history to it.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why I liked that one.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Nov 3, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

I remember someone saying, when Raptors won, that in 20 years, noone will even know why they’re named this.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Towers

was another one.

that was always my favorite…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly though it was kinda like asking someone to pick the STD they want. They all suck.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i wanted the toronto t rex, but i was a young pup and didnt know any better

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was the same, except I wanted “Toronto Saurus Rex”…. I was such a stupid little kid.

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by Shield on Nov 4, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When I was a kid and would make up fake Toronto teams in basketball video games, I always went with “Toronto Towers”.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it makes sense

CN Tower.

tall people play basketball.

it just works

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mind you

Damon Stoudamire would not have appreciated it.

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is a pretty good name

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was 13 in 95

and I thought it was really, really lame.

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was 18 and liked it less than that.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I too was 10 in 1995

And raptors were just about the coolest thing in the world. Man, that got old quickly.

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by NewJackCity on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was 7

And I thought they were this shiznat. Probably also due to the fact that I got to go to the Draft that was at SkyDome because my dad made the timer-clock for picking, and we got tickets to the first game. Now I never watch them.

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by Shield on Nov 4, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This takes me back to the spring of 2001. As we all remember 7th seed Leafs humiliate 2nd seed Sens then lose to the Devils. The Raptors squeaked past the Nicks in the first round before losing to Alan Iverson (personally) in the next round. Every basketball fan I knew spent the entire summer going on about how this was a changing of the guard and Toronto was now a basketball city and the Raps were now more popular than the Leafs.

I moved to California that summer, so I’ve always wondered, how did that work out for you, Raptors fans?

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by My Poor Friend Me on Nov 3, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If that’s not a rhetorical question you’re never going to get an answer. There are no Raptors fans.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Raptors

Worst name for a sports franchise ever.

“Maple Leafs” would be ridiculous, if you didn’t know the story behind it. Whereas the Raptors was submitted by some kid high on Jurassic Park, and in a seamless act of lowest common denominator voting, it won.

Raptors. How can you even say that with a straight face…?

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it’s a total joke.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Go Canadian Dinosaurs!

RAWRRRRRRRR!!!!1

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh noes!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is “fucking Alberta” an actual place? I want to move there. As opposed to "morally self-righteous hyper-conservative Alberta, of course.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it exists within 5 km of the downtown cores of Calgary and Edmonton, and near ski hills during our 9 months of glorious, snowy winter.

by Its Cold In Here on Nov 3, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fucking, Alberta is probably near Westward Ho.

by Resolute on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Toronto Enterprise!

At least Star Trek is more timeless than Jurassic Park

by Its Cold In Here on Nov 3, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

but Tomcats would have been terrible too

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but then we coulda pretended it was from topgun and they could play danger zone every game

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

would Tom Cruise be the mascot?

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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmmmmmm

Tomcats

How appropriate would that be?

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh man, i remember when kangaroo jack killed his career

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to love him.
My Secret Identity was awesome.

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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sliders was awesome too

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hated it after season 2.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it did kinda go of the rails with the whole sliders group of scientists and all

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He had a career?

They call me Splodeybones.

by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sliders dude!

also he was on crossing jordan

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus,

he was in some date rape flick with Ron Livingston where he got to rail Tara Reid. Back before she got all skanky. Body Shots.

Also, did you know he was married to Rebecca Romijn? WTF???

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they’re still married, aren’t they?

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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Worst name?

In the NBA alone, I think the Jazz (yeah, mormons dig the jazz), New York Knickerbockers, Lakers (made sense in Minneapolis, but in LA?), Pacers (named after harness racing) and Grizzlies (Bears in Memphis?) are right up there.

I’m not defending it (it’s a horrible name) but Jurasic Park was HUGE at the time (released in ’93, Raptors awarded in ’94) so you can see how shortsighted marketing drove that name.

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by mf37 on Nov 3, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Utah Jazz

originated in New Orleans.

so it makes sense…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know the history, but the name sucks given the new locale. See also, Memphis and Grizzlies.

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by mf37 on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They should be renamed the Utah Jazz-is-from-the-DEVIL. And no dancing of any kind at home games.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Yeah, the NBA is brutal for not getting teams to change their names when they move. It’s actually pretty embarrassing.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okalhoma…Thunder? NBA teams just shouldn’t be allowed to name their teams at all.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard Memphis’ owners wanted to change the name and colours to reflect ownership of FedEx (ie corporate colours and Memphis Express) but the league vetoed it.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Memphis Express.

that actually sounds kind of cool.

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Knowing the early-2000s though it would have been the Memphis X-Press

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even Memphis Federals would work.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Names based on wars or armies are pretty awesome (Go Us!!!). I like Red Patch Boys being named after Red Patch Devils.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a low-budget KFC competitor

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by My Poor Friend Me on Nov 3, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is it the NBA?

the Sonics changed their name…

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because Seattle still owns the rights to the name.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grizzlies was an awesome name when the team was in Vancouver.

I was so ashamed that Vancouver got an awesome name while we got Raptors.

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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol, I love the opening sequence to Baseketball: “The Jazz moved from New Orleans to Utah, where music is illegal [sic]”

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by Shield on Nov 4, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Wild is a worse name. Ooohh! Go fightin’ Adjectives!

THIS IS A JOKE

by loser domi on Nov 3, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s too bad they couldn’t re-use North Stars

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

true

That and I always thought Knicks was a terrible name. at least Raptors are a dinosaur (a small one, but still…)

An obsolete article of clothing? give me a break

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by loser domi on Nov 3, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, like Red Sox and White Sox!!! Silly references to stockings…

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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 3, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was in Cleveland when the team name was announced. At least three people asked me why the team was called the Toronto Rafters (“Is it like ceiling rafters or white water?”).

That said, I really enjoy going to Raptor games and my kids do too. Tix are way more reasonable and much easier to get than Leaf games. The Raptors also do a much better job of in-game entertainment than the Leafs do.

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by mf37 on Nov 3, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this is true

Raptors games are highly entertaining. My bro used to split seasons tickets with his best friend, we were at the first ever NBA playoff game in Canada.

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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Using hip-hop makes sense at a basketball game. The ACC wore out its Jock Jams CD circa 2001. Since then they put LeafsTV in charge and all they’ve come up with is that ’Whoa-oh-oh" song that makes me want to swan-dive headfirst onto a railroad spike

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by clrkaitken on Nov 4, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing that bothers me about that picture is that they stencilled the Raptors part above the Leafs one. Setup first, then punchline, people.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I find Raptors fans to be the incredibly obnoxious and for some reason quite cocky even though they’ve only gone past the first round of the playoffs!!1 ONCE, then lost the next round. They’re sorta like the Canucks fans of the NBA.

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well Vancouver had an NBA team...

…but not now…lol

Truculence...starting 10/1/09

by LeafBoy on Nov 3, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing as how the team had to move to Memphis, I’d say there weren’t any…

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not true

they were screwed over by the NBA, and David Stern admitted it.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was joking, but care to elaborate? Sounds interesting

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

don't know much myself

but I remember the quote from Stern, it wasn’t that long ago.

Here’s some info from a message board:

I don’t know if David Stern really wanted to see the Grizzlies succeed. The NBA gave the team a series of obstacles to seemingly keep them from success. Vancouver won the lottery in 1999, and would have walked away with Brand, but they couldn’t pick first until 2000.

Stern always wanted a team in Toronto. Vancouver came out of nowhere to get a team. Toronto got the all-star game, they got to be in the division they wanted to be in. Vancouver got tossed in the mid-west division, even though they’d be a much better fit in the pacific division. The NBA wanted the Toronto market. They wanted Vancouver’s money.

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by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and

some info from a newspaper

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oooh

Sports Illustrated did a compliation of stories about them, too.
This stuff is fascinating.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It sure is, nothing like a little controversy

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that one of the reasons why

Canucks fans take out their rage against us?

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 3, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hah

no

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Considering their hate of all things Toronto...

I thought it would be.

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by Kavel Pubina on Nov 3, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The CBC (or Rick Mercer don’t remember which) did a small documentary about why Canada hates Toronto, in a nutshell they think we’re too American and think we’re the best city (arrogance).

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no

they just hate Toronto.
There’s a lot of Raptors fans out here… people who haven’t given up on the NBA, anyways.
Most people have sworn off basketball after the Vancouver debacle, and now how the Seattle Sonics have moved.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear they’re itching to get an MLS team

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they’ve been granted one, I t hink it starts next year.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was Montreal that was granted one?
And Vancouver would be next, could be wrong

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

I could also be wrong. I thought both Portland and Vancouver got one. Must look this up.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Vancouver gets one in 2011.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Nov 3, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Montreal was told no poseurs allowed

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Follow me I'm Boring!

by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh good, I’m really dreading the eventual Montreal vs Toronto rivalry in MLS.

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Nash is one of the owners. If the Grizz had stuck around he would have eventually ended up with them and they wouldn’t have had any problems getting fans.

Moustache Fever, not to be confused with swine flu.

by Shield on Nov 4, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Toronto had nothing to do with Vancouver losing the Grizzlies. Even the worst Canuck fans understand that.

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, still. Now truculently rebranded!

by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Canuck fans have one of the worst inferiority complexes in sports history. They’ve taken the little guy theory way too far as they desperately try to convince anyone, especially themselves, that the Canucks are a great franchise.

Hilariously, at the last Flames-Oilers game in Calgary, I saw one arrest: an idiot in a Canucks jersey hauled out bloody and in handcuffs. Only Vancouver fans could unite Flames and Oilers fans on something.

by Resolute on Nov 3, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They actually are exactly that. Bill Simmons constantly mocks them and I don’t think they’ve clued in yet.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A couple of my friends are die-hard Raptors fans, and they had the audacity to question why I cheered for the Leafs! I didn’t know where to start, the fact that we have history, the fact that Hockey is 10 times the sport Basketball is, that despite their obvious ignorance the Leafs have a better record (we have had the ability to perform in the playoffs.
And their response is pretty much the same, they turtle and begin to talk about how the Raptors have “improved” this year and this year they’re gonna do soo well and kill it in the playoffs…. they’ve been saying this for years still hasn’t come true.

by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 3, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Simmons is a moron for the most part, though I do enjoy him pacifying the intense Raptors fans who keep hearkening about Jose Calderon being a top-3 point guard in the NBA.

Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell

by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This sort of reminds me of an 8 year old kid trying to make fun of a cool 25 year old.

I mean, how can you possibly get mad at something like that? It’s almost… cute.

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, still. Now truculently rebranded!

by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I definately thought that was a cool name when I was in grade 4.

by Farfetched on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As a Raptor fan, I remember when they were good. Yes, I do mean never.

Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!

by blindfolded tank driver on Nov 3, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As much as I hate to admit it, this one, I think, is a Raptors Nation Win.

by Blue and White Expat on Nov 3, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I actually like the Raptors name and the colour scheme they came up with now. That doesn’t mean I don’t find their fans just as obnoxious and uninformed as the stereotypical Leafs fan though.

Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell

by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey Cool! I submitted that photo to Puck Daddy!

I don’t think that it’s a raptors thing, since I’ve only seen this at College and Bathurst – has anyone seen any more of them? I’m trying to keep my eyes open but I’ve still only seen the one.

by Fergus30 on Nov 3, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I pass by maybe 3-4 Leafs ones on the way to work from Union. Have never seen the Raps one. I must say it is rather funny…would be more clever if the Raps actually won games.

You say you want a revolution // Read the Blog and follow your Hunger

by Hungry Leafs Fan on Nov 3, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It must be a random fan right? MLSE owns both teams.

Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.

by PPP on Nov 4, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

at least the raptors have made the playoffs in the last 5 yrs.
you know your not a hardcore leaf fan until you hate on other teams in the same city

by KB1 on Nov 5, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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