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Maple Leafs 1 v. Lightning 2 (OT): Referees Are as Bad as MLB Umpires

What absolute horseshit. Of course that dummy Doug Maclean is saying it's a good goal when Ryan Malone throws Gustavsson into the net. Nice to see Stajan just give the puck up after he's made a good play. Typical. 95% well done and then he falls. Should have had the winner too. Thank goodness Gustavsson is our number one. Not the best first goal but does anyone else still have heart palpitations when the puck goes near him?

Of course, this is all moot if the Leafs had buried some of those powerplay opportunities or if Phil Kessel had scored on one of his 20 attempted shots or the 10 that hit the net. Great debut but it could have used a goal. And it's clear he's not a porcelain doll.

Anyway, share your thoughts folks.

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Fuck.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

double fuck

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

sextuple dog...

wait, I lost the train of thought.

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Universal All-species fuck

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I sense you guys are mildly perturbed by how you lost…

by Resolute on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Woha, spidey senses there

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate OT bring back the TIE

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We are terrible at it. First, let’s can the shootout.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do we always make the opposing goalie look like fucking Dominic Hasek?

by birky on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Because we’re not very talented.

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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Tampa would be right to complain about the stripes on their end too.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

yep we had some phantom calls go our way tonight.

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed, but a phantom tripping call in the second doesnt make up for your goalie getting pitchforked into the net on the game winner in OT

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

That goal was rotten.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

True but this was the first night this year where the refs didn’t seem 100% against us.
Hey, we had 8 power plays to their three.

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but they deserved 6 of those calls outright, one was borderline and one was terrible

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

2nd one actually, we got power plays up the ying yang against the Ducks.

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by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

can we move to Anaheim’s division?

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I should add that I think that they stunk both ways

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

shiiiiit.

We need another top 3 forward.

mittenhands matt stajan and little albino hamster are not deserving of that ice time.

by PeterZezel on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

esp on their own during the OT. Where were grabbo and hags?

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Bad pairing.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

stapled to the bench while our top offensive weapons ran the show.

by PeterZezel on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad bench mgt during the OT if you ask me.

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree. More hagman, more grabs, more Kulemin

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabs and Poni were hemmed in their own zone for a while in OT there.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely not a good night for Poni. He seemed invisible at times. I think he has been taking pointers from Stempniak.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on all three. Kulemin played a really good defensive game as well, as did all the Leafs.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s something to build on I guess.

The wins will come right?

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That or the booze.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

why cant it just be both?

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 4, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

absolutely.

the MSM say that the fans overvalue the players…I’m thinking the coach is doing some of that.

by PeterZezel on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Unhappy.

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by article1 on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

What I've learned from tonight's game

According to the NHL refs: running the goalie over as you score is completely legal.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

unless it is done by a LEafs player. (see NYI game three years ago)

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the game that left the Leafs 1 pt out of the playoffs.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh….that was such horse shit.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I;m still mad over that one.

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a lack of finish, but shit luck, too

It’s 60% that, sure, but this is also the cause of 35% piss poor luck and 5% bad reffing. No finish with the odd bad bounces in, and BS like the goalie interference.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Nothing going our way.

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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

8 powerplays!!!

8!!!! and we only score 1???

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

by Neale's Harry on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Could have used a bit more # 1 PP and a little less Keystone Kops

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst. Luck. Ever.

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by Blinky on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

If Kessel was playing for Boston tonight he would have had a hatty.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Bottom line, the Leafs blew the coverage on that OT goal. Both Kaberle and Komisarek was chasing Tanguay and let go of Malone drive to the net uninhibited.

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

It's not just luck

But, to be honest, I have NEVER seen a team with worse luck than this one.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This is where you wonder how much is chemistry and how much is basic hockey. Normally, you either talk and say you are following your guys or you talk and switch. They clearly did neither.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not the best analogy...

But this is the same as with my Coyotes in the Gretz years. Everyone just somehow assumed everyone knew exactly where they were going and what they were going to do without actually you know saying anything. Made it so everyone was out of position. You can make up for a lot by telling people where to go and where you are.

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by Travis Hair on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Drives me nuts with my indoor soccer team. Gotta fucking talk!

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

And tapping your stick on the ice doesn’t = talking.

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by Travis Hair on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, Kaberle stayed with Tanguay and Komisarek didn’t pick up his man.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said at the end...

I’m not even a Leafs fan and feel cheated with that ending…

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by Travis Hair on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

That’s why we love you, Odin.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Are we that bad at shooting? Seriously, I want to know. We’ve shown we can score plenty in other games. How can this be anything but running into another hot goalie performance (fucking again!!!!) and getting fucking rotten luck?

Dammit I’m fucking pissed.

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by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Luck has little to do with it

Gustavsson handed them their first goal, and Kaberle completely fucked us by trying to do Komisarek’s job for him. The Leafs don’t have anyone but themselves to blame for Tampa’s goals.

by koopa kid on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Stajan and Beauchemin have to react much, much better to that turnover.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t even get me started on Beauchemin. He’s off of our powerplay and he’s still not looking good in our end. Just brutal.

by koopa kid on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I am worried about him :(

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

me too, he made some terrible plays with the puck tonight that i was surprised didnt end up in our net

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

And this makes me so sad. I was one of the biggest boosters for this guy, too.

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I even once said,

If I had boobs, I would ask him to sign them
.

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

He could become the Larry Murphy/Aki Berg of this edition of the Leafs

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

So he’ll be really good in the playoffs? Yes!

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah on someone elses team :(

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Berg was decent for the Leafs.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

finally someone else says it

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 4, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Is someone going to tell PPP that… you know… I don’t heave the heart to do it…

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by Travis Hair on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I finally dumped him off my pool. :( 13 games in is enough for me.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm out

things to consider:

- Kessel isn’t even in pre-season form yet. not worried at all about him.
- Gustavsson was insanely good. And he’s still young. he’s going to be even better as the season rolls on.
- lot’s of borderline calls on both sides. Leafs PK was outstanding though!

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by blurr1974 on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

PK

That’s the encouraging thing. Much better the past few games.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we have killed off the last 8 penalties. That is a good sign.

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

No PPG against in last two games. That is going to be huge going forward

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Kessel looked a little rusty, his shot was off on accuracy (from what ive seen on video) and he was trying to do everything
but he did start passing in the second half of the game

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta take the positives outta this.

Kessel will start scoring. Leafs have a great goalie it looks like. We’re getting points in almost every game. Keep it going Toronto. We’ll be fine.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Stajan and Blake

Both could have put that game away.

But at least Kessel looks dangerous

by TMLSiegeinVancouver on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

That whole line was dangerous. I liked Blake and Stajan tonight.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, Blake missing the dribbling rebound because he doesn’t stop in front of the net. And Stajan can hit the entire net from the other rebound and on the forehand no less. Bench them.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Bench the line that created the most chances for our club? Nobody on the team was any better.

by koopa kid on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

5-on-5 is one thing. Stajan shouldn’t be on 4-on-4.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the Kessel – Grabovski – Blake line that was running together for a little bit. I think Grabbo matches up with Kessel better than Stajan.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I 100% agree with this. It’s a much, much better chemistry and explosiveness. Then Poni, Hagman and Kuleimin. Put Mattie on the third.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Poni Hagman Kulemin

doesn’t work… no centre.

Also the Grabbo Kessel Blake line is a group of midgets. It’s the same problem Montreal has in Gomez, Gionta, and Cammalleri… only less skilled.

Too small, and again, NONE of them drive the net for screens.

Why is this so complicated for people to see?

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, all three forwards hold onto the puck for far too long. They’re puck carriers and I’m not sure Blake, Kessel, and Grabs will ever see the puck if one of them has it.

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless we call up Hanson, we have no one who regularly screens or drives the net. I don’t know that we can find a player like that in a trade this year unless Burke either overpays or gets ridiculously lucky.

So if this is going to be an all-season problem as seems likely, how do we overcome it? Can we?

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by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Endure it, goddamnit.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Stiff

Ian white upper lip eh?

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by Buds'n'Syrup on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell to the yes.

I may not like tonight’s outcome. But I just soldier on.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We're not last place!

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure y’are… technically… we have more wins. But don’t worry – by Friday we’ll still be tied in points, but you’ll have a game in hand and we’ll be on a 10 game losing streak and truly the worst in the league…
We like to give 2 points to anyone that comes to visit – it’s that southern hospitality thing…

Bring on the battle of the bottoms!!
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by Andrea's evil twin on Nov 4, 2009 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a good goal.

But I hate Blake and Stajan.

They both suck horribly. I want to trade them and Mayers for Lecavalier.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

id do it

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Good goal, but Malone clearly pitchforked Gustavsson,

and the net came off before the puck crossed the line.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He

Pitchforked him while swinging at the puck? interesting eyes you have there… covered in blue glasses I suppose?

As for the net thing, it was on his back and in before he hit the post.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh come on this Stajan hate is borderline “trade Kaberle” ridicilousness. He and Blake played a good game.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

So Stajan, Blake, and Kaberle for Vinny?

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d prefer Stajan and Blake for Malone. Tampa still owes us one. Throw it whatever else to get their 1st next year, which they don’t need.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No they didn't.

Stajan should be passing the puck, not trying to crash the crease so Kessel and Blake can shoot from the perimeter.

Plus Blake is a waste on that line. I just hate them with Kessel. They don’t ADD anything.

You need a passer who carries the puck decently, and a guy that goes to the net to screen the goalie. Blake and Stajan together do not encapsulate those two things. They provided no decent screens on Kessel’s forays to be honest.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Stajan, Blake, and Mayers… why add Kaberle? That’s too much.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Who do we have on the roster that’s a decent passer besides Stajan? Maybe Hagman, otherwise I can’t think of anyone.

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by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabovski? Kaberle? Mitchell could be...

I honestly don’t know who else is a good set up guy beyond Stajan, but he wasn’t doing that tonight. Kessel’s chances mainly came off rushes from his own blue line… and on the PP where Stajan stood in front of the net. There was little generated from 3 way passing on that line.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are you so worried about the number of chances Kessel gets? He had a bunch of fantastic shots tonight, and although Stajan wasn’t always setting him up, I think we’ve established that Savard wasn’t doing that all the time in Boston, either. Chill out, Kessel is going to do fine with either Grabbo or Stajan at centre. Poni, Hagman, and others will get their chances.

by JP Nikota on Nov 3, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Stajan was in front of the net for that whole powerplay at the end.

Blake was digging in the corners and pulled pucks out and fed them right onto Philty Phil’s stick a few times. 5 games in for Kessel and they would have 3 goals combined tonight.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

They didn’t really phase Nittymaki in the least as far as I could tell. They had a couple of legit chances, and frankly I don’t see those suddenly turning into goals when Blake is stuck at 1 goal, and Stajan scored 2 in the opener and hasn’t done much since.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention

that Stajan and Blake suck together… always have… always will. NO CHEMISTRY.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

They both should have had 1 tonight and Kessel will probably score 2 if he was in prime form.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Prime form?

like when he sets a career high in shots on goal with 10?

How much more prime does he need to be?

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

His accuracy was off a little. Compared to the videos of last year he was burying some of those shots regularly.

by Clawson on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He had

232 shots last year, and 36 goals. 15.5% shooting percentage. Might not continue for his career… either way… he wasn’t getting 10 shots a game regularly, but he wasn’t scoring incessantly.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

so call it 10% shooting for tonight to account for some rust, it’s not surprising he could take 10 shots and get zilch.

Even at 15% it wouldn’t be a shocker. Oh, small sample sizes!

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i think ‘goals scored’ is more of an indicator of prime form than ‘shots on goal’.

you’re full of piss and vinegar tonight it seems.

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by daoust on Nov 3, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I just found their complete lack of finish frustrating.

Nittymakki has been hot recently though. I just think when you’re handed 8 power plays, and you get nothing out of it, you don’t deserve to win, and I have a hard time being positive about it.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

And as for shots on goal and goals for

I’d say good players get more opportunities in prime scoring position than bad players… which is what makes them good players.

Kessel getting 10 shots is a good thing… and they’ll go in eventually… but he needs a player like Lucic to occasionally go to the net, and he needs a scorer like Savard to occasionally threaten offensively. If he’s the only guy we’ve got, then other teams will key on him and he’ll get a lot less than he got tonight.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

getting opportunities is one aspect of being in form, yes. but capitalizing on them is another, and arguably more important. give him time to really find his shot, he’s gonna be solid.

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by daoust on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree he'll be solid

My entire point is, he likely won’t get a lot more chances than he did tonight, and some nights they’ll go in, and other nights they won’t.

I had zero problem with Kessel tonight. It’s his line mates and the rest of the club that bothered me.

He was one quarter of our offense tonight. That scares me… if 1 guy is dominating that much, wtf is the rest of the team doing?

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Bozak, Hanson, Kessel -1st line of 2moro?

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be ok

I think for now though, just play Mitchell and Kulemin with Kessel and tell them to get him the puck and crash the net.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

This works. Kulemin isn’t selfish, and JM is strong. Get the puck to Kessel and crash the net.

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Replace Hanson with Kadri

They call me Splodeybones.

by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Hanson is the power forward you need. If you replace anyone on that line with Kadri it’s Kessel or Bozak.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Hanson Kadri Kessel
____ Bozak Stalberg

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

And replace Bozak with Kovalchuk/Marleau/Jokinen/Savard

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Jokinen

Just what you need. A cancer in the locker room.

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by Travis Hair on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That would make 3 according to DGB

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we need

to ditch Stajan… he’s young enough he might get us a decent player in return.

They need to do a 2 or 3 for 1 deal though, so some of our younger players can come up to the Leafs from the Marlies.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, and we need to start making Hanson angry. He has the size, needs the piss and vinegar…anyways peace

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Jokinen

is kinda over -rated… no thanks.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Savard would be cool

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m in

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Blake and Kessel look like they might take off…We need to run into some average goaltending

Wendel Killer Joseph

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

shit…I never thought it would come to that.

by PeterZezel on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

bring up Hanson

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Hanson a crack he’s holding his own, right now

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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade a ticket to the all-you-can-eat buffet for Kyle Wellwood?

-Graham-

by CanadianMaple09 on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

what did you do after you couldn’t find another all you can eat seafood restaurant?

I like to eat the yellow snow behind the zamboni

by Kerry Fraser on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Give him a fishing permit?

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

My whole life hurts right now. If we don’t start capitalizing on some bounces im gonna quit my job and drink malt liquor under a bridge and tell the neighbourhood children about what pushed me over the edge.

by PeterZezel on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

DOUBLE REC'D

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by Buds'n'Syrup on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Best players for the Leafs tonight

Kessel, Gustavsson, Kulemin, Mitchell, Grabovski, Ponikarovsky, Kaberle, White, Schenn

Komisarek and Beauchemin and Exelby all made me nervous when they had the puck.

Hagman was kinda off tonight.

Wallin, Orr, and Primeau were invisible.

Blake and Stajan piss me off so much.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

schenn had a very quiet, but steady game

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Exelby made a couple of bonehead plays with the puck and sat the entire 3rd and OT.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope this means Finger is in next game.

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by stucky on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Outside of everything else, Exelby simply can’t fucking skate!

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Truth.

I’d rather have Frogren than Exelby.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't finish but

Kessel will correct this. It’s just one game. If anything this game is a perfect example of why we got Kessel. Aside from the fact that the team didn’t outscore the opposition, they played very well.

by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Wise words, General.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Perspective

There will be games where the refs completely fuck us over. But goddamnit, it will just make the victories that much sweeter. Kessel will be awesome, it will take some time. Most importantly, the taste of victory will come, trust me on that.

GO LEAFS GO

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

So much sexual ambiguousness, so little rec’ing power.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I;m out later zombie leaf nation

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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

BYE

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

See ya.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t a big fan of the Blake-Stajan-Kessel line being the default number one PP though. Why change the the line that made the team successful? A lot of times, they were playing nearly 1:30-:40 of power play time. That’s way too long.

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

Why mess with a good thing?

Knew it was going to happen though. They are going to run Kessel out there until he scores or dies.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I was encouraged they changed some of the guys on the line later in the game, despite still not completely straying away from it.

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by bkblades on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The PP was stagnant

no motion whatsoever.

They all deferred to Kessel way too much. He’s never been a big PP guy in the NHL before, and focusing everything around him is a bit crazy to be honest. He’ll get more chances if MORE of the other guys are dangerous. Put Hagman out there with him and let them both shoot from either dot.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

That’s exactly what I said when they showed the clips of Hagman sniping on the PP from the right dot. Put him and Phil out there and you have snipers on both sides.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m away to sulk and/or play NHL 10.

Laterz

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by article1 on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Be sure to destroy Ohlund.

See ya. :D

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

later

i probably have some work thats way ovefrdue

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by Buds'n'Syrup on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

im out, better hit the hay before i am compelled to drink the rest of my very expensive booze

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Good night, Jared.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

WE NEED A POWER FORWARD

SOMEONE THAT CRASHES THE NET LIKE MALONE DID ON THE WINNER.

WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A GUY LIKE THAT AND WHERE DO WE GET ONE… WHERE BRIAN BURKE? WHERE?

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- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

HANSON

MITCHELL

But Ronnie needs to tell them to play that way

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Hanson deserves a shot.

Can I just say that all the old balls in the line up are clogging up the Leafs roster?

Stajan and Blake need to go… they’ve had a shot for a while… I know Blake isn’t going anywhere unless we take a bad contract in return… hence my propositions for Lecavalier…

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Finger trade possibly. B.B. working the phones hard to be sure.

Too bad we don’t have Mike Van Ryn healthy to trade too. Need a power forward for sure. Pony sure isn’t one.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Finger will not be traded. Too expensive.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't deal 1 of your 8 D

to add yet another forward when you have too many forwards as it is.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

D will get injured

it’s inevitable. When that happens, you want guys like Finger around.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

OK FOLKS

Have a good night. This too shall pass. Lots of good tonight.

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by PPP on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Good night.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs are going to be an amazing team....

….next season.

Right now, I could care less about playoffs. I just want this frustration to end.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Alright folks...gonna call it a night.

See ya, Leaf Nation.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

I should also add

The thought of Kadri centering a line with Phil Kessel as early as next year has me salivating.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Beauchemin going to be fine. Kommy will be fine.

We’re improving and will start to win very soon. Stay positive Leaf Nation.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

maybe I’ll buy a new laptop to make me forget about hockey.

by PeterZezel on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Time to shoot things.

Anyone wants to play Bf1943 that’s where i’ll be.

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by Travis Hair on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Someone needs to go back in time and make Kessel born in Finland

Cuz he just can’t Finnish! xD

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by Blinky on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

How is it?

I still don’t have it :/

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by Blinky on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It's awesome.

But, I am contractually obligated to not mention my Be A Pro.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, last game before Kessel, these lines worked

Blake, Mitchell, Kulemin
Tlusty, Stajan, Stempniak
Poni, Grabovski, Hagman
Primeau, Wallin, Orr

 Why not just replace Tlusty with Kessel? What’s wrong with that lineup?

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

so Jiri to the Marlies?

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

until they can make a reasonable 3 for 1 trade. Then they call up Tlusty, Hanson, and Stalberg

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

or 2 of those

whichever ones we want.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

where do you stand on the

developing in the minors vs. NHL thing? The Detroit model or the Schenn model?

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I was opposed to the Schenn decision

last season when it was made.

I don’t think they should have kept him in the NHL … junior would have been a better plan.

As for developing in the minors… I see no harm in it… I just think some players should be promoted when they’ve done what they need to down there. Tlusty and Stalberg should be in the NHL. We need to clear roster space to promote them. They’re beyond the AHL right now.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Stalberg is doing well down there now (sorry, not following closely)? He seemed fairly invisible for his games in the NHL

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He seemed invisible

because he was playing with Blake and Stajan… who SUCK together.

I’m so sick of repeating myself about this… does anyone remember how god awful they were with Darcy Tucker 2 years ago? I sure do.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

fair 'nuff

How does his speed stack up at the NHL level?

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He led the league

in Corsi rating after 2 games.

He did a lot, but he didn’t score.

He still played VERY well.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Speculating

I think is Gustavsson had been able to win this game, he would have been a lock to start the next game Friday against Carolina. Now – uncertanty. On the other hand, it might be better to go with Vesa on Friday against the weaker Hurricanes on the road and right back to the Monster on Saturday at home against Detroit.

by general borschevsky on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Or just literally nail him to the bench and not play him again, ever.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's face it

The Leafs are going to win eventually, but this team still generally has zero real finish.

The Power play isn’t even close to as good as the league is pretending they are. They’ve had a ridiculous amount of success at 5 on 3. Their 5 on 4 numbers are average at best.

After that, they have no real offense 5 on 5, and that my friends is the major issue. We Can’t put the damn puck in the net, and Kessel isn’t going to solve that on his own.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly Steve. Can't put it all on Kessel. We need more scoring at key times.

Can John Mitchell contribute to this team in any kind of meaningful way? I am doubting him real badly.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not an NHL scorer

he’s a grinder. He’ll never score 25 goals in the NHL… I’d be amazed if he ever nets 20.

He’s an NHL regular… but he isn’t an offensive talent.

They need to get Kulemin more opportunities though, and frankly I don’t think Mitchell is going to be any worse than Stajan at this point, and he’s a lot cheaper. Trade Stajan.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we should stay with Gustavsson. I sincerely hope Toskalol never plays for us again.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

Gustavsson is not going to play every game from here to the finish line.

So they need to demote Toskala and promote MacDonald if they plan on not playing him, but I’m not sure that it really makes any difference aside from in regards to cap space.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

I just don’t know if we need more grinders like Mitchell. I say jettison him to the Marlies. I have no faith in him.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Well

we need SOME checkers on the 3rd line… but we have no physical presence on the top 2 is the real problem.

They need to sprinkle Kulemin, Mitchell, and Stempniak amongst the first 2 lines. They actually hit.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

My new goal for the Leafs this season is 30 wins, 22 losses and 30 OTL’s for 90 points.
/laughs manically

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

OMGOMGOMGOMG

Yep, trade Stajan. There are other teams in the league who actually think he’s good. We might actually get something decent in return!

by Hanzi on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Of course he isn't going to play every game.

But I would like him to start about ten games in a row. I think he’s ready and fully healthy.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

don't play him in back to back games

and even if he’s healthy, he isn’t used to playing 3 or 4 games in a week. Sweden’s schedule is less frequent than the NHL.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

sensible

build him up. Bodies need adjustment time.

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve.

Agreed about bringing up MacDonald.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

I see no problem playing him in back to back games.

He’s young and strong. We’ll agree to disagree about that.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Young and strong

and recently returned from Heart surgery and a groin injury… anyone ever tell you bad things happen in 3’s?

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Relax Steve.

Am with you about everything you write but I think he’ll be fine. He wouldn’t be playing otherwise. I play baseball. I know about bad things happening in three’s my friend.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

It's ok

I’m relaxed… just annoyed at the Leafs season thus far.

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by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So am I bro'

I’m more than annoyed believe me.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

I realize and understand your comments about Jonas being from Sweden and not playing so much. I just think he is ready to play consistently. I think he can handle it.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sure he'll be fine too

I just don’t see them starting him in a zillion games in a row early in the year… but who knows. I think they want Toskala to play well so they can trade him and get something of worth in return.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

No GM in his right mind would trade for Vesa bro'.

I’m not talking about a zillion games in a row. Just a few. Ten would be nice. This year is not the year we are shooting for. We’re playing for the future. So should we take it easy and ease Gustavsson in? Perhaps you are right. I will think about that.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

Marlies

In an ideal world both Gustavsson and Kessel would have played some games with the Marlies before coming up. My opinion.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

From a Sens fan:

I only watched about 10 minutes of the game, but Kessel looked fantastic in those 10. I mean, he possibly should have passed more (and will need to against stronger opponents), but hot damn, he looked better than I remember him being in his days with Boston.

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by DarrenM on Nov 3, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

That's true.

The goals will come eventually. Kessel is a damn good player, he’ll be back to his usual goal-scoring self in no time.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn't play on the PP much

in Boston. He also wasn’t the key cog in their offense particularly. He was one piece of a greater puzzle.

He’ll be more of a focal point for the Leafs, which should make him more noticeable.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s only one game, but it really looked like he’s not going to be hindered by being ‘noticed’… he really seemed to find/make space for himself out there. he also looks like he doesn’t need savard, or anyone else for that matter, dishing him the puck.

Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.

by daoust on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The rest of the team delegated to Kessel too much. They were looking for him every time the puck was deep in Tampa’s zone. The setup on the PP became predictable and stagnant.

by birky on Nov 3, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, by the 8th one. the first 7 or so there was lots of good movement. they just ran out of ideas and got deflated when nothing was working.

Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.

by daoust on Nov 3, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m so depressed I just managed to do a post about how terrible it is that Kessel looked incredible.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

DGB.

I love your stuff man. You are Da Man!

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Pyramid- this little button (reply)————————-^ will save you from being killed by Chemmy.

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by kidkawartha on Nov 3, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Komi cost us that last goal just as much as the refs, he left his man totally open to cover a guy Kaberle already had. Also, Kessel’s lack of finish will work itself out with some more games.

Also, What is the protocol for getting a link in the FTB? Do I have to email someone? If so, how do I know who?

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by Shield on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

e-mail

Blurr with it. Find his name at the bottom and fire him a message. He handles it during the week.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Nov 3, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't be depressed DGB.

Things will get better there is no doubt about that. They’re getting better now.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

check out the reply button PP. it’s your friend around here.

Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.

by daoust on Nov 3, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t be depressed DGB.

If I did that, my blog would cease to exist. It’s like telling Eklund not to lie.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh don't worry about that

The Onion says there’s a cure

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 3, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Reply button and everyone here are my friends.

Thanks for the tip though Daoust. I forget that sometimes here.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

Nittymaki

Had a good game, but Goddamn those refs! I wanted the extra point!

by Frag on Nov 3, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

We had a lot of PP ops Frag.

It was a lack of finish around the net that cost us a win. Not the refs.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why I said that Nittymaki had a pretty good game. It just seemed like no matter what the Leafs did, other than Ian White, nobody could get a lucky bounce. Good God, that shot in OT! How the hell did that not go in?

Anyway, Kessel looked pretty good out there, which is really good. Just seemed a bit rusty, which was expected. Once he shakes the rust off, I think he’ll be an unstoppable machine on the offensive end. I liked what I saw from him.

by Frag on Nov 4, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is everyone harping on the refs?

The Leafs were given a number of opportunities on the PP that they didn’t bury. Nitty won this game for TB not the refs.

by Robot Godzilla on Nov 3, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

And the winner was a good goal. If the puck is near the goalie, you can pretty much drive over him with the zamboni if you want to. That’s just how the game is called these days.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 3, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed sir.

We need to learn that. We will.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Because it’s a lot easier to blame them for the goal instead of Kaberle, who had wormed his way back into our hearts.

by koopa kid on Nov 3, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Trades

After watching this team through 13 games, who would take a flyer on any of our forwards not named Kessel?

Has anybody shown that they can put the puck in the back of the net? Does some team out there need a bunch of 3rd line grinders? For the Leafs to make a move, they would almost certainly have to include a good prospect like Bozak or a top 4 d-man like Kaberle or White. And that’s simply not going to happen at this point in the season. Tlusty, Hanson, and Stalberg better get really comfy at the Ricoh.

by birky on Nov 3, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

As much as I’m loathe to agree with Doug MacLean, I thought the winner looked like a legit goal. NHL.com only has a single view of it up, but I couldn’t see an issue with the marker. Was an alternate angle/slow-mo look more revealing?

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by mf37 on Nov 3, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

It was a legit goal Bitter Leaf Fan. So be it. We lost but got a point. So be it.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Brian Burke.

Mr. Burke has built this team to succeed in the future. We will succeed in the future. Regular deep playoff runs to come. Probably not this year though unfortunately. That is the sad, but oh so understandable current reality for Toronto. We’ll deal with that as strong tough loyal Leaf fans and be better for it.

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

True.

The bandwagon fans who call it quits when the going gets tough, can go to hell for all I care. The REAL fans will be rewarded when the Leafs finally do win it all.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 3, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots of UFA's after this year.

The ones that deserve to stay will stay. The others will be gone. Exactly Kavel, exactly. Stay on the bandwagon. That is why we are here talking about this team in some depth late at night. Because we are TRUE fans no matter what!

by Pyramid Power on Nov 3, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

you should also check out the ‘reply’ button. it’s useful and awesome, generally found immediately to the right of the date and time at the bottom of each post, such as this one.

Yesterday is dead, but not my memory.

by daoust on Nov 4, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

That was pretty nice.

Using reply helps the conversations flow. When you post replies without using it they sit there floating making no sense.

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by PPP on Nov 4, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Look on the bright side. At least we aren’t U. Colorado football fans. They’re sucking so mightily this year, with a terrible coach locked into a long term deal they can’t afford to buy out, that the most talented player they have recruited (stagnating in his sophmore year with little playing time and no development) has just announced he’s ditching them for UCLA. They may win the award for the SB Nation blog that most makes the Bariklosphere look wildly optimistic :)

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 4, 2009 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

LOL?

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 4, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Not if you're anywhere close to Denver.

Woot having some promising prospects, a great GM and a good coach! And a new grade A sniper and titanium vault of a goalie.

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 4, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

anyone still aive in here?

by PeterZezel on Nov 4, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

My analysis:

1) Gustavsson was good, but not great. Needs to work on his rebound control. Also, he gave the puck away on the first goal like OV at the all-star game.

2) Kessel looked good. He’s not taking shots from just anywhere. He took some good quality shots, trying to pick a spot, but Nitty-often-shitty found a way to stop them.

3) The Leafs are seriously snake-bitten. Of our 41 shots, more than half were good shots. (our 40 = a normal 30 shot game). By those numbers, we should have probably scored 2-3 goals, especially with all the PP time. But the Leafs got exactly 1 good bounce. And about 25 bad bounces.

Honestly, if we never lose another game in regulation I’ll be happy. But eventually we’re going to win a game or two.

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 4, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

HAHAHAHAH

“Nitty-often-Shitty”.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 4, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. One of my finer moments I will admit.

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 4, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

My mood has been completely saved!!!!

My girlfriend won tickets to the Leafs vs Sens game at Scotiabank on the 17th. Center Ice Row D. So now I will be flying to the belly of the beast and donning my best blue and white and cheering with my friends at ACC East.

by PeterZezel on Nov 4, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

thanks.
this will only be my 3rd leafs game ever.

living in thunder bay ontario makes it difficult to get to games too often…closes nhl city is minneapolis-st paul…yuck.

by PeterZezel on Nov 4, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess “Shitty-maki” would have been more punchy.

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 4, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Wait..

Wait for Burke to make his magic… Wait for Vesa to heal… Wait for Monster to play… Wait for Kessel to make his debut…

anyone else sick of waiting? I personally blame Stajan for everything that’s wrong in my life.

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by calypso016 on Nov 4, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

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