Niklas Hagman named NHL's 3rd Star of the Week

Oh hell yes. Congrats, Niklas. A job well done.

ETA: NHL.com Blurb
Hagman tied Crosby for the League goal-scoring lead last week with five, helping the Maple Leafs earn five of a possible six points. Hagman notched one goal in a 4-3 overtime loss to the New York Islanders Nov. 23, recorded two goals in a 4-3 victory over the Tampa Bay Lightning Nov. 25 and finished the week with a pair of goals, including the game-winner, in a 6-4 win over the Florida Panthers Nov. 27. Hagman leads the Maple Leafs in goals (13) and is second on the club in points (17).

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I HEART HAGMAN!

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 30, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Trade him now please.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 30, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Flagged. Completely inappropriate.

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by eyebleaf on Nov 30, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Some day you and I will agree on a player.

Some day. But not this day.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 30, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

interesting, do you really think that a deal for hagman would be worth it? what would you expect burke to get in return?

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 30, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

let him score 30 then trade him for a 1st and a B+ prospect at the deadline? ORRRRRRR, we can keep him at his very affordable contract and let him score 30 for us for the next couple years

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 30, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

will Hagman be around when the leafs are ready to be serious contenders? Not likely… But I don’t think now is the right time to trade him… not just yet, let other teams salivate and get real desperate for his services… let them become so enthralled in the awesomeness that is Hagman that they become willing to trade their own souls for him!
Then trade him for a draft pick and an upcoming prospect… because that’s what happens to the leafs… sigh

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by El Monstruo on Nov 30, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

deadline firesale!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why wait for him to cool down? He’s on pace for 40 move him right the fuck now.

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by Chemmy on Nov 30, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s pretty much exactly my thinking. Sell high.

In my mind there are only two types of Leafs right now: guys you’re building around for the longterm, and guys you should be willing to trade if you can get good value. That’s it. Hagman’s a nice player, but if you can move him when his value is high you do it.

If you think he’ll be worth more at the deadline, then that’s fine too. I don’t agree, because I think he comes back to earth soon, but it’s all about whenever you think the price tag can be highest.

(Cautionary example: Remember last year when Blake was hot, and suddenly some fans got cold feet about dealing him because hey, what if he keeps this up?)

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 30, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I ♥ Hagman

and fully endorse this methodology.

If someone wants to overpay for him, then let’s make a deal…

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Nov 30, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but that’s just the problem… No one is currently willing to overpay… so let their offers rot on the bargaining table until they realize that their lives are incomplete without Hagman, and THEN they offer a package that Burke cannot refuse…

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by El Monstruo on Nov 30, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It would have to be one hell of an offer given how attractive his contract is. 25 G 50 P guys (I’m going on his historic production, not his current crazy pace) at $3 million are invaluable. I’d keep him unless you think you can replace him with someone who (a) produces the same for less money or (b) produces more for less money. Not a lot of guys like that out there—and he’s signed for the next two years, when we actually might be decent. So by all means trade him if there’s an upgrade out there taking into account the contract, but otherwise keep him.

He’s not remotely comparable to Blake, who given his age and skill set was clearly always going to be an albatross.

by The '67 Sound on Nov 30, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome Hagman

Hagman is awesome.

That is all.

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by RepressedOptimism on Nov 30, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I heart Nik Hagman.

Haggy is the definition of awesome.

Don’t take him for granted like the Stars did.

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Nov 30, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

well, i think most agree that trading hagman during a career year would be a good idea as long as the return justifies it. I like hagman alot, but DGB has it right. Hagman leans a little more towards the side of “not going to be here when shit really hits the fan” and if you can get good picks or prospects than it probably would be the right move.

If Burke only gets like a 2nd ill be pissed, i dont think he would make that deal anyway.

Do you think we could get a low 1st rounder from a cup contender? Burkes asking price is probably a low 1st and a middle prospect or a 2nd and a high prospect….

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 30, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

who nets a bigger return?

Kabby or Hagman?

Kaberle is a year older than Hagman. If Hagman and his 3 year deal puts him at “too old” then Kaberle’s 1 year remaining makes him positively ancient, no?

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by blurr1974 on Nov 30, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kaberle gets you more

He plays a Similar style to Scott Neidermayer – smooth skating, great passing, patient with the puck etc.

Except for the fact that Neids is usually much better defensively and is pretty much a bit better in all other areas then Kabs. That’s the difference between a HOFer and a really good defenseman like Kabs.

Anywho, beating around the bush here but basically as long as Kaberle doesn’t get Janssened again, he will be a very good D-man for several years to come because his game does not have the big physical element to it.

A puck moving D man who usually gets 45-60 points a year will always be worth more than a 25-30 ish goal scorer.

A lot of variables like contract length, amount of $ and what any given team needs – but Kabs will be worth more than Hagman unless someone ridiculously overpays.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

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by Down Goes Brown on Nov 30, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so

long story short, since Kabby and Hagman are too old to be around when the team is competitive, you look at trading Kaberle before Hagman…? Or, because Kabby is only a concussion away from uselessness, while Hagman plays forward and is more physical, Hagman is the more prime trade fodder?

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Nov 30, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was replying to your point about who would fetch more. I made no mention of who I would trade first or anything.

For the right price, both are expendable.

I have been barking up the ‘These guys won’t be around when we are competitive’ tree for a long, long time now.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d say either one (if the offer is right!). Kaberle would be trickier to move because of his NTC but if moved would net the leafs a bigger return than Hagman. Hagman would still get the leafs a pretty decent package deal though, considering his age, stats, current play, contract, NTC, and defensive abilities…

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by El Monstruo on Nov 30, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think it depends on what you do with Ian White.

If you think White is entering into his prime as a top 4 D who can move the puck and anchor the PP, and Gunnarsson is for real, then you lock up White and make getting a return on Kaberle your priority. Cause if you’re right, then you have a core D of Komisarek, Beauchemin, White, Schenn with Gunnarsson continuing to develop, and you can move Kaberle for help up front and maybe a new D prospect.

If you think White’s going to command too much salary, or his value in a trade outweighs his future value to the team, then you keep Kaberle and put the training wheels on Gunarsson. Then you move White & Hagman to try and replenish the talent pool, and roll the dice with all the 20-24 year old forwards we’ve accumulated the last 2 years (Bozak, Stalberg, Hanson, Grabovski, Kulemin, Tlusty, Kadri, etc.)

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by clrkaitken on Nov 30, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And for the record, I haven’t yet answered this question in my mind.

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by clrkaitken on Nov 30, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And it’s not an easy question, to say the least…

How much do you think is reasonable for White to be resigned at?

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by El Monstruo on Nov 30, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I want to take a good look at the stats of White and comparable D before I answer that question. Give me a day or two and I’ll fanpost my answer.

And if you read my Kessel piece comparing him to the top scorers in the league last year, you’ll know that I’l put far too much thought into this.

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by clrkaitken on Nov 30, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t say too much, just the right amount of thought… It was a great read.

I now eagerly await the results. (Don’t forget to factor in a Home-Town discount!)

on a side note, should any contract extension given to White include a clause that prohibits him from shaving his mustache? I would push for visible stubble as a minimal…

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by El Monstruo on Nov 30, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If I can lock up White for 3 or 4 years at less than $3.5M per, then it’s done. If he wants to sign even longer, then so be it. considering he’s an RFA, it’s entirely possible he may be had for pretty cheap.

I’d keep White and Gunnarsson. That gives you two offense-minded d-men still for your PP, with Beauchemin as a 3rd option.

Kaberle and Hagman (and Stajan and Blake!) would be sold off to the highest bidder.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Nov 30, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with this for the most part. If we can get White signed at less than 3 mill, its good. If he gets an offer at more than 3 we can either match or get a 1st and a 3rd in compensation. Seems like a good problem to have. Hagman I’d lean on keeping, just cause I don’t expect to get much more than a 2nd for him.

by rpop on Nov 30, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yay Hagman!

Lot of trade talk surrounding him I see.. I don’t want him to be traded, but if we can get a great deal for him then let’s do it. Let’s see what happens.

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by stucky on Nov 30, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs