Maple Leafs 0 v. Sabres 3: Surprise, Surprise
by PPP on Nov 30, 2009 9:38 PM EST
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PrintI don't know what the deal was with the fans booing the Maple Leafs. Are they shocked that a very good Buffalo Sabres team beat the Leafs 3-0? First off, the Sabres are better. Bottom line. Second, they are the Buffalo Sabres. They could dress the Wellington Dukes Provincial Jr. A team and the Sabres' mystique would be enough to beat the Leafs.
Seems like there was a lot of rage in the game thread too. I get it. It's frustrating to see a lot of hard work come to naught but a million f-bombs does't rescue the game. Sometimes the Leafs will lose beacuse the opponent is better. In this case, as in those, it's more interesting to read about what the Leafs' need to do to get to that team's level instead of a 100th instance of "Fuck (player)". So let's get back on track: What did you like from this game? What needs to improve?
Disclaimer: I slept through most of the second and woke up to a 2-0 deficit but that first period was pretty much what I expected from the buds this year. Lots of big hits, lots of hard-skating, lots of chances and lots of good saves. What was missing? The goals. Sigh.
To put you all in a better frame of mind - Let's all laugh at Keith Ballard:
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Ugh.
That is all.
"Luke Schenn is Stronger than Strength."
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First Question
What the hell happened to Gunnarson?
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shoulder – i would bet separated from the way he skated off.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
His left arm was hanging limp.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Shit
When? Stupid comfy couch and lack of sleep
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part way through the 2nd
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I was dreaming about dinner which I still haven’t eaten.
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your mom didn’t come downstairs to wake you up??
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Scorch
I’ll get you later!
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had to get the shot in while I could.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I love you.
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(843): the red head has a bf
(1-843): just because there's a goalie doesn't mean u can't score
by Wrap Around Curl on Nov 30, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
awww thanks :D
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
check into the back boards behind and to the left of Gustavsson… boards did not give, shoulder did.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Shoulder injury
ran into the boards behind Leafs net.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
That was a real Ballard overplay by Jonas on the first goal.
Ballard Ryan Miller getting the shutout!
I hate it when we play against the Ballard Sabres!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Jonas looked like Pogge on the third goal
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Not worried about that goal. Jonas played it properly. It was a great shot. It happens.
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I don't think Miller was as good as the commentators were saying.
The Sabres really played well in their own zone. None fo the leafs got a lot of really bona fide scoring chances.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 30, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Lots of half chances, pucks bouncing over sticks, players getting tied up.
The Sabres’ D did a great job of clearing things up.
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yup
they know how to play with Miller.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
wilson should show them a tape of this game with the idea of demonstrating how to play in your own end without the puck.
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 30, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Good suggestion
Leafs had a lot of control around the boards (again) but they really can’t work it into chances.
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yah, miller had to make a few hard saves, but most of the time it was first save and clear
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of whiffs tonight
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions
is this the first shutout against the Leafs so far this season?
and for positives….didn’t Schenn look like he was getting confidence back?
THIS IS A JOKE
I have to say
He and Komi were the best Leafs out there tonight.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 30, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
He had a decent game – we will need more from him now that Gunnarsson is hurt
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
He looked pretty good last time they played Buffalo too. Motivation thing maybe?
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by puckurgently on Nov 30, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
maybe trying to show up Myers.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
It is actually
If i’m correct
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Nov 30, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Played with Ian White
Therein lies the solution. Never mind that Ian White struggled a bit tonight with his usual share of giveaways, but White helped Schenn and that’s all that matters. My love for Ian White is going to be hard to maintain without any snarkiness.
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White is a much better offensive player...
..and that took a lot of pressure off of him instead of he and Exelby being completely confused about which one is supposed to be moving the puck and which one should be going way out of position to try to hit someone.
He even ended up with his share of opportunities to put a good shot on net but I feel like he hesitates too much when he’s going to shoot. It seems like every time he gets the puck at the point he pumps and fakes before he shoots. He needs to start just teeing them up and letting it rip, if for no other reason than to make help sell the pump fake when he does choose to use it.
He had a nice wrister from the point that a better player would have probably tipped on goal, but someone (I can’t remember who) whiffed on the re-direction.
Really good looking in real life.
Well, it’s not like they sucked tonight. Good teams beat bad and mediocre teams. That’s what happens in sports.
We need the team to learn and at least they didn’t lose because of defensive collapses.
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Remember
We beat the Caps. If the Leafs beat top teams like Washington, Pittsburgh and New Jersey the team will gain confidence and make a good push. I’m still optimistic
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Nov 30, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, at least we can start a fresh winning streak tomorrow night against the habs
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions
Have the Leafs won a game against a division opponent yet?
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nope
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 30, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I am kinda worried about the Columbus game – Mason is due for a good game and I just don’t see the team getting up to play Columbus
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
Columbus beat the blues 5-2 tonight.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
just watch stralman comes in and has a breakout game
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by The Meatriarchy on Nov 30, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
The worst is
Mason has motivation. He can look at Vesa sitting on the bench with his hat on, hoping that he will get to play. Mason knows that that’s the bottom of the pile, and he steps up
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Nov 30, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Gnite LD
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Nov 30, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Good night.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 30, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
nite!
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Miller
He’s scaring me for the Olympics.
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good think team canada will be better offensivly than the leafs
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Sure
They were much better than Switzerland too
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oh hush
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Switzer-what now?
I can’t hear you.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 30, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Quiet You!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Look on the Brightside
We’ve got Brodeur
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Nov 30, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Team Canada
will light that bitch up come February.
CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA!
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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 30, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
me too
a couple timely goals for Kane, Kessel, Parise, and Miller to close the door, and USA does a lot of damage
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
True
But I don’t care if you put up a piece of plywood with a hole the size of a puck, Canada is scoring a shitload of goals in this tourney
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Going to be an interesting tournament… Canada and Russia will be super strong, Sweden is also good, teams like the US, Czechs and Finland could be dangerous… tough one to call
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That sir, is basically the depth chart right there
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Kind of a “Mr. Obvious” post by me, now that I look at it. :)
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GO SLOVAKIA!!! GOLD MEDAL!!!
Them vs zie Germans in the final!!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i dont blame monster for that third goal at all\
if kessel had scored that exact goal on miller we’d all be talking about what a crazy snipe it was
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions
the thing is, when you see Gustavsson’s mistakes, they’re rookie mistakes that can be coached away. With Toskala, they’re inane, mind-numbing mistakes and I have no idea how to fix them.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
And they’ve been there forever, and he’s long past the point in his career where you can expect him to improve. I don’t understand how easily that gets overlooked so often in comparisons of the two.
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by puckurgently on Nov 30, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
Toskala’s bad habits are so deeply ingrained at this point, I’m surprised he has improved as much as he has in the past few games.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
He had a hot streak. Every bad goalie has hot streaks.
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by puckurgently on Nov 30, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson
If we had found a way to get a lead it would have been a different outcome.
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Kabby has to shoot more if teams are cheating towards Kessel. Didn’t do that tonight.
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Teams just wait to counterpunch when they have the lead. They are waiting for counterattacks. That’s why we needed to get a lead on a team like that.
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Three road games
We play better on the road, play less tense. Not concerned and welcome the trip.
MTL will be a good atmosphere, Boston is old rival.
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I’m hyped for the Boston game.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha they asked Wilson about Kessel catching a puck in the face because they saw him talking to the doctor.
“So you saw him walking with the doc and you assume he got a puck in the face? What would you think if you saw me walking with the doc?”
“Lower body injury”
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Put more pressure on a first year player. That’s what you guys need to do. Pile as much pressure as you can.
We expected Jonas to play 25 games and he’ll hit that by Christmas at that rate.
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Shot selection wasn’t good. Miller is a classic butterfly goalie and too many shots were low.
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truth
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
too many shots missed the net
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
16 games in December for the Leafs 4 more than October, 3 more than November
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 30, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
the one game a week thing?
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
there’s a two week olympic break there. It’s more like 6 road games, 2 week rest, 8 road games.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Still
14 straight road games, any way you slice it.
Really good looking in real life.
by Archimedies on Nov 30, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Forgot about that part of it.
If it were the Leafs, I’d be really ticked. Of course, this just adds fuel to their flame when they hate on TO. “This would never happen to the Leafs!”
it would happen if Toronto was hosting the winter olympics and the ACC was unavailable.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I do
but I haven’t heard them ragging on toronto for this, and when the schedule was released all the Canucks fans aired their grief, and then moved on ‘cause, let’s face it, who wouldn’t love to see Team Canada playing in their home building?
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Last day for
“november” jokes! Get ’em in now!
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions
Damn
It doesn’t matter anymore! :(
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thank goodness
it doesn’t matter anymore! :)
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alright, I have stuff to do tonight, I’m out y’all.
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by Karina on Nov 30, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions
At least we didn’t get blown out but… sigh.
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It’s against Buffalo, it happens. Leafs always manage to play lacklustre against this team. Maxim Afinogenov used to always bury the Leafs when Sundin was powering his butt for a goal.
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What is it about the Slugs
that makes them beat us so much?
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by Marc Pilgrim on Nov 30, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Karma.
For all the trash talk towards Buffalo.
by tedrecommends on Nov 30, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
So
Brett Hull scoring on you guys in ‘99 was karma? Just askin’.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 1, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Like I said.
Thank you for proving my point. That played itself out nicely.
by tedrecommends on Dec 1, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
If that was the case you’d think a lot more things would go well for Buffalo.
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by PPP on Dec 1, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
this makes me feel better for some reason
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions
I know we all love Kessel
But if that cross-crease from Matt Stajan had been on the tape, we’d have been in the game, if not likely to have won. We’re playing great, getting our chances, and despite what everyone says about our lack of finish and power, we’re getting to the net and we’re scoring. There’s no way this game is a shutout if we had a true centre beside Kessel. I love the kid to death, and he’ll score 40, but he’s a much more effective tool in my mind if we get just one guy to get him the puck in GOOD areas, without forcing him to manufacture something from nothing.
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by doggit on Nov 30, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yeah, one more player of Star caliber would be a HUGE change for this team. One player alone can only do so much, two can win a game for you more often than not.
I fear we wont get this player until the off season at earliest
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 30, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Savard is a free agent I believe.
Reunite him and Kessel because.. you know… Kessel is obviously nothing without him.
Kovalchuck?
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You guys are thinking way too small.
Blake for Optimus Prime. He’s a truck. He’s got wheels. Lots of them. Literally. And you think Phaneuf hits hard, wait till you see several tons of metal hitting at highway speeds. yeah. And his stick reach would be so good he could stand in front of our net and handle the puck in front of the other guys.
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Savard just signed a 7 year 4.2 mil cap hit extension with the Bruins as per TSN
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 1, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
meh, I wanted Marleau more anyways
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 1, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
me too
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 1, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
100% not just because the pass was shit but because a better player wouldn’t have forced that pass or the one that led to the third goal. Stajan knows his best chance to get points is to pass to Kessel but on that play a fake pass could have led to a goal or at least a good shot!
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by PPP on Dec 1, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
The Leafs need to think ‘Shoot first’ and let the other guy jump on the rebound
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