Jeff Finger?
by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 11:15 AM EST
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PrintTo paraphrase Jerry Seinfeld: what's the deal with Jeff Finger? He's been a healthy scratch six games in a row and in those six games the Leafs defense has started to gel. There's a lot of Garnet Exelby hate around these parts but lately our defense has been rock solid.
Compared to Finger, Exelby's salary is a lot lower. I think Finger's a good defender and he put up points last year, but do you pull Exelby out of the lineup and mess with a winning formula to make it more expensive?
Is Finger injured? That made sense earlier in his scratch streak but LTIR means a player would only have to miss 10 games or 24 days; Finger hasn't played since 10/24, so he's 50% of the way there on days missed and he hasn't played in six games which could jump to eight by Sunday. Players can be placed on LTIR retroactively which means there's a chance that Toronto will do that to free up some cap space as a matter of principle.
Is one of the Leafs' D corps being showcased for a trade? I'd have to imagine Komisarek, Beauchemin and Schenn aren't going anywhere, and if we take Burke at his word he's keeping Kaberle. That leaves Ian White and Garnet Exelby, both of whom are UFAs at the end of the season.
So what do you think is going on with Finger? Are the Leafs planning to sit $3.5M in the press box all year or is something going to happen?
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By "winning formula"
do you mean a team that’s won one game?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions
Our defense has looked pretty studly for a few weeks now.
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the d has looked better.
i wouldn’t call it a winning formula though.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well, D-wise it’s a winning formula if by winning formula you mean killing penalties and not allowing a billion shots/goals per game.
by theothervatican on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
no
i mean winning.
two points.
wins.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
But the D is doing what you want the D to do. The F’s are F’ed
by theothervatican on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
wins
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Goalie stopping pucks? Check
Defence killing penalties and reducing chances? Check.
Forwards scoring goals? Ch…shit.
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excuses?
check
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Excuses are “Man, the forwards aren’t scoring because Jupiter isn’t in Taurus. Just you wait”
Saying that the Leafs are losing some games recently because the forwards aren’t scoring is a fact.
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dude
“winning formula” means to me, “wins”
not “playing better”
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
But you get the meaning right? That the group as it’s formed is playing much better. right?
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yes, not denying the team is playing better.
just saying winning formula usually equals something being won.
“winning” by it’s very definition implies that.
semantics.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
We have been winning something: the loser point!
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Finger is the only guy on the team who doesn’t make a foamy latte. Foamy lattes make Burke farty and bloated.
But really if he isn’t hurt, and placed on LTIR soon, then I have no idea what’s going on, because he’s better than Exelby.
Including the Anaheim win, Exelby has been a -4 in 5 games and has seen an average of 11:30 of ice time a game. No points, no shots, 4 PIM. On a plus side, I’ve only noticed him fuck up a couple of times.
But really he’s the sole defenseman that gives me the “Toskala” feeling; that being a feeling of anxiety and “Oh shit don’t fuck up”, whenever he’s near the puck. Really I don’t know why Finger isn’t playing in his place, unless it’s an injury.
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I like Finger, and I’ve liked XLB. Seeing as how Jeff isn’t on the IL, he’s not saving the Leafs any cap space by not dressing. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
I don’t recall Finger doing anything particularly bad that would necessitate his sitting.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions
this
but… Exelby’s putting it together, and is obviously not part of the long term plans… maybe Burke wants to flip him for a pick?
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I am hoping that a lot of the curious roster decisions so far have been made in an attempt to create some level of demand for the players like XLB that he wants to move.
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I can’t get over my desire to package XLB with Stajan.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
XLB, Stajan and Blake
for Marleau, straight up.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
please don’t tease me like that.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
funny thing
Salary wise, it almost works…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
except for
them being stuck with Blake for forever and a day…
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
shhhh
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
ok
hehehe
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
ACTUALLY....
the more I think about this, the more I can make it work.
the Sharks have Pavelski already locked up, and Thornton is their #1. Little Joe is a second line center, but they’ve lost some secondary scoring with the trade of Michalek for Heatley.
Marleau has been playing wing a lot to allow Pavelski top 6 minutes.
hmmmmm
sorry, threadjacked. different topic
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
not long term
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Marleau has been playing wing a lot to allow Pavelski top 6 minutes.
How can he get top 6 minutes, if he hasn’t been playing?
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last season
Marleau was on wing with Thornton.
stick with me here, i’m trying to get rid of Blake and YOU ARE NOT HELPING
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
alright
now let’s invite some Sharks fans over like we did with the Caps fans yesterday, and get this all ironed out.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
sharks have fans?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
EAST COAST BIAS
also, the Shark Tank is one of the loudest, most energized arenas in the league.
they’ve got fans alright…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
lots of them. They are very loud at games.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
mmm....
XLB Stajan… Xtra Large Baconey Stajan… BCWW
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
The NHL Entry Draft was shortened to 7 rounds beginning in 2006.
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At this point
should the Leafs really be sacrificing wins to showcase trades?
My guess is that Wilson doesn’t think Finger is as good as Exelby, and since he wants to win, he plays the latter.
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I agree, I’ve been thinking all season that it must be either an atttitude or conditioning thing.
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That’s what makes me think it’s an injury thing. Finger missed most of training camp with a strained oblique and that could be an issue.
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I almost hope so, because I thought Finger was better than this.
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by Back In Black on Nov 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Longshot
Finger=Fletcher signing
Exelby = Burke trade
Ego thing
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by leafer1984 on Nov 5, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
heh
trying to make the Kubina trade look good?
I mean, I am sold based on the cap space it got us, but maybe others aren’t
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry but you’re saying Burke would rather sit a Fletcher acquisition but is perfectly happy to start a JFJ-acquisition (Toskalol) for much longer then he should’ve?
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Komisarek has been truly awful. And the scary part is that I´m sure he plays as good as he can, he simply isn´t any better than this. Hes peaking at “WTF!? Again with this crap!!?”-level.
Sad.
"I woke up from my work nap for THIS!?"
Komi has improved by leaps and bounds, he has been solid defensively, mean in front of the net and is blocking a ton of shots
I really dont know what most people were expecting from him, because since the point streak began he has been exactly as advertised
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
'since the point streak began'
Seriously? Are we at this stage of optimism already?
ONE WIN
a measure of time, not optimism
He has been playing well since the win, nothing more nothing less than that is ment
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone does remember that with MVR gone, baby, gone, the loss of Finger would trim our depth at D to dangerous levels,right? He has to be injured, or is simply mature enough to accept the healthy scratch, or else the Marlies are going to start losing their D-men.
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yeah, but the fact that he is in the press box while exelby scares the crap out of is on the ice game by game is a mystery
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
uh
we still have Frogren who is a not bad #6 or #7 NHL level defenseman already… plus Oreskovic etc. down on the marlies.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Frogren is very cheap and has to go through waivers. Perfect target to get dinged.
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it’s possible, but I’d take the risk.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t he go through a few times last year okay? Or were those for injuries and therefore “emergency call-ups”… that in mind, if we traded finger or XLB, and someone got injured, we could call Frogren up as much as we wanted using this (advantage of having AHL team in same city)
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Also, Rosehill used to be a defenseman, so if we were on the west coast or something and couldn’t get Finger there fast enough, we have Rosie who could step in and play 10 minutes on D.
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why was he converted to forward?
i’m just wondering if there was an issue with his skating or something…?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea whatsoever, his hockey’s future profile still says he’s a “strong defensive defenseman”
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Didn’t he go through a few times last year okay?
Frogren was exempt from waivers last year. That’s no longer the case.
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Oh, I had no idea, I do not yet know all of these weird clauses which switch during contracts.
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One of my (lame) predictions for this season was Leaf fans would get acquainted with the NHL waiver rules.
RW and Burke can chatter all they want about accountability but I think a lot of movement (and non-movement) between the Leafs and Marlies this season is going to be based entirely on who’s waiver exempt and who’s not.
I posted my best guess at Leaf waiver status is here.
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I want to get to know these rules, though I usually just assume that younger guys are exempt and older guys arent. This screwed me over in NHL 10 when I lost both Tlusty and Kulemin when sending them back down after a trade… all I had to do was look at who was on a 2-way when making my call ups
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2-way only deals with salary while in the AHL. Waiver exemption is based on how much you’ve played and how long you’ve spent with the NHL club.
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by puckurgently on Nov 5, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, there’s a perfect example of EA games lack of being realistic has screwed over my head.
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two-way contracts just dictate how much a player makes in AHL v. NHL.
What you need to know with waivers is:
Age of the player, # of years since they signed their first NHL contract, and the number of games played.
E.g. Frogren’s contract with the Leafs was his first NHL deal. As he was over 25, he was waiver exempt for one season only (There’s a chart in the CBA on page 66).
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Alternate theory
RW has been playing NHL10 and has become convinced that if XLB’s ability to crush the opposition and cause injuries in every game is “in the game” then it must be true…?
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
haha
I like this one.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I was reading an article that said Ronnie liked incorporating technology into coaching. Personal DVDs of game film for players and tablet computers on the bench kind of thing. So Maybe he has an xbox in his office.
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by Its Cold In Here on Nov 5, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
if only
Because Komi, Beauch and Schenn are DEADLY checkers in that.
Only Happy Trails brings any offense and skating, though. *sigh….
Komi has a sweet shot and Kabby and White are both great offensively in that game.
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FYI,
My wife speaks french and corrected me during a recent Leafs game. “Beau” does not mean “happy”. It means “man”.
Essentially, his name is Manstreet.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
huh?
Beau, I thought, meant handsome? Homme is man….
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
i also dispute this
maybe it’s a regional dialect. “beau” is man, yes, in that its masculine (as opposed to Belle)
But it’s used as sort of a male form of “pretty”. Handsome, i guess, works.
Either way, Toskala sucks.
That's a fine point you make.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 5, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this, I traded him in my GM mode, but whenever I play online or against a friend he rocks people and injures someone almost every game.
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The only thing that makes sense to me is a possible trade.
If Finger was hurt don’t you think we would have heard about it by now? I don’t mean the actual nature of the injury (nobody knows that anymore) but he would have been put on IR or announced that he’s out with an upper body/lower body injury. Instead, silence.
If they aren’t planning a trade that would imply that Wilson thinks Exelby is better than Finger. And that simply can’t be possible, right? Uhm… right????
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Maybe Finger has already been traded in principle with another team, and there’s some sort of bonus or payday that they’re waiting for to make the trade?
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It’s a good thing there are only about 35 full-time journalists covering the team, heaven forbid one of them ask:
a) if Finger is dealing with an injury
b) how Finger feels about being scratched
c) What RW’s plans are for the composition of the Leafs D and why he’s running the current six
d) What input Burke has into how Wilson sets his line-up
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by mf37 on Nov 5, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Even with the update below from Jonas640, there is still no explanation! 10 minutes on Sportscentre devoted to John Mitchell centring Phillip, but zero seconds asking why JF is still in the press box?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Nov 5, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
And just like that it changes
Jonas Siegel just twittered:
@jonas640 Finger in tomorrow, Exelby out.
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
THANK WENDEL.
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by puckurgently on Nov 5, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
ASSIMILATE
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Being Ron Wilson
Through a webportal I enter the mind of Ron Wilson and am able to control his thoughts before being dumped in a ditch alongside the QEW.
They call me Splodeybones.
Probably got their from floor 67 and a half right?
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Thanks Ron
Ok, what Leafs problem do we want to solve next? So far Wilson has changed Kessel’s centre and put Finger back into the line-up.
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
putting toskala down
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Then we’d just start hearing about how the Leafs got unfair preferential treatment at the vet.
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I voted trade out of wishful thinking. Exelby has looked slightly less like an abject failure than usual lately, so maybe someone would be interested in taking him to get out of a contract, which was what I assumed we were doing by trading Kubina for him.
Finger is much better than Exelby. I’m not even going to try to understand the preference.
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And Finger has more offensive potential than Exelby, which the Leafs need right now. I guess that’s why he’s getting the call.
XLB undoubtedly has a cooler name though.
by Its Cold In Here on Nov 5, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
If they wanted to insert offensive upside from the blue line, I would think they’d call up Gunnarsson. Finger has more than Exelby, but that’s not why you put Jeff Finger in the lineup. You do it because Garnet Exelby is an abomination and Jeff Finger isn’t.
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by puckurgently on Nov 5, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t call up Gunnarsson without sending down someone, and only Schenn and White are waiver exempt on defense.
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Let’s just hold the universal assumption that any roster-related suggestion I make includes waiving Exelby.
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how the eff is Ian White still waiver exempt?
I mean, god bless it, but we drafted him in 2002, he’s been one of the better players this year, he quietly does his job well, he makes under $1 million, he can play forward AND D, and can apparently solve tricky roster kerfuffles.
It can’t ALL be his moustache
Yeah
SkinnyFish is wrong (sorry buddy). White is not waiver exempt.
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by PPP on Nov 5, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Based on his NHL service, duh.
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Also, white is not UFA after this year, he is restricted.
Surprised no one else mentioned it.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 5, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
prime offer sheet target…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
gah, take the picks?
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
if Kaberle can be resigned for cheap (under $5.5M….?) then maybe…
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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
but
don’t we have one more year on Kaberle’s contract after this one? Which means they can’t negotiate until January, doesn’t it?
Or are they fine in the off-season?
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think Finger is one of the best names on the team, due to being able to tell guy’s he hits that they “got Finger’d”
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meanwhile
Maple Leafs coach won’t say if Gustavsson will play first of back-to-back games beginning Friday night in Carolina
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions
'cause
it’s back to back, and Carolina is as bad as (if not worse than) us, it’s a tough decision….
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
With our record, I’d be more inclined to stack the deck against weak opponents to make sure we get at least a few wins (this season).
by Its Cold In Here on Nov 5, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, we should be beating weak teams even if it means we get killed by strong teams.
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who do we play Saturday?
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
id rather gustavsson play both
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
but see
that’s the conundrum. We don’t want to put too much pressure on him, make him play too many games and risk re-injuring the groin.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
party pooper
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
It would be better if the Detroit game was first so we could start him back-to-back based on how he felt after the first.
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yes
this would solve a lot.
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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
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