One potentially key factor on that front is that Kessel’s production last season with the Boston B...

One potentially key factor on that front is that Kessel’s production last season with the Boston Bruins came in large part at even strength, with just eight of his goals scored on the power play. Only six players – Alex Ovechkin, Ilya Kovalchuk, Zach Parise, Marian Hossa, Rick Nash and Jeff Carter – had more even-strength goals than Kessel last season, and 13 games into this season, that’s precisely where Toronto needs a boost.

James Mirtle tries to avoid H1N1 as he reports on Ron Wilson's attempts to get blood from a stone. Just kidding. Goals will come.

The Leafs are getting killed at evens which is a big change post-lockout (at least for the first three years) so any boost would be a godsend.

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JEFF

FREAKING

CARTER

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Oh….there is Kessel’s centreman.

…fuck

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by Clawson on Nov 5, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jeff Carter seems like a good hockey player, it’s a shame we can’t have him on our team.

by Huey2k2 on Nov 5, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously

as anyone ever thought about trading for him? He looks like a decent little player.

Maybe some sort of Kaberle package would work. Do you think? Throw in a pick? ANyone? ANyone?

by pevans on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Philly was going to give US a first in that deal.

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 5, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I like Kabby, but...

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by stucky on Nov 5, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously?

you guys didn’t know this??

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No I did. Just saying what needed to be said.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 5, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh

I see no reason why I needed to be reminded of this. :(

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 5, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

my sarcasm didnt apparently register

that rumoured deal still makes me wince, and I’m a Kaberle fan.

Carter and Kessel on our top line now? As Clay Davis would say, SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

by pevans on Nov 5, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

who did

Philly end up taking with the 1st that we would have gotten in that trade?

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Luca Sbisa?

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 5, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

wow

thing is, would we have been bad enough with Carter to draft Schenn?

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well i think if we got Carter and a first, Cliffy woulda packaged that first with ours and moved to at least Schenn territory

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hard to say, but i would still say yes, considering we had to trade up anyways.

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 5, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what was packaged with our first to get Schenn?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

a lower round pick or two, I think…

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yea i think it was a 2nd and 4th…i could be wrong though

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 5, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

boy oh boy have we traded alot of draft picks the last few years..

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Nov 5, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so say with carter the leafs finnished 4 places higher (he hadn’t broken out yet so and his impact wouldnt have been that great for the games after the deadline) and the leafs drafted 11th
the 11th and the 13th over all plus whatever else was thrown in probably coulda got the leafs to 5th

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh please stop talking about this

it hurts my heart. There’s no question we would currently have Carter + Schenn or close equivalent – Kaberle. I love Kabby, but I’m sorry, I say that’s not a 1-11 team

by pevans on Nov 5, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

we wouldn't have Schenn

we’d have Doughty, Bogosian or Stamkos.

Two firsts could get you first overall. That said, they might have sit pat and taken a guy like Boedker or Hodgson

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

or a double trade up, got schenn, used the other one to get hodgeson or Boedker…

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

After Kaberle

there’s nothing left to trade but picks.

If they traded for Carter, I can’t see them taking a shot for Stamkos, they’d be looking for a winger to play with Carter, and chances are that could have been Boedker.

If they still wanted a d-man, Tyler Meyers would have been the last one of the top 10 on the board I think.

Jeff Freaking Carter

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

they wouldn’t have kessel either. There’s no way they go after Kessel if they have Carter.

by birky on Nov 5, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well, they’d still need an elite winger for Carter to play with

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

passing winger tho.

by birky on Nov 5, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ooops

hit post before i was done.

anyhoo, could have taken Hodgson at 7th overall, and drafted again in the late 20s with Philly’s pick.

Long story short, this team would be even younger

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if the leafs had traded kabby i think they woulda made a push for an offensive D and doughty probably would have been the main target, then Bogsian.

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ya

and with two firsts, it would have been pretty easy to get.

Drew Doughty is filthy.

this is making me angry….

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not much point in speculating this anymore.

We have Schenn, we have Kessel, and we still have Kaberle.

I am happy with this.

by Huey2k2 on Nov 5, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

next year…Marleau!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i love speculating, its my second favourite thing after dreaming up trade rumours

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t get me wrong I love speculating. I am more into the whole, what could we possibly be doing in the future thing though as opposed to what could we have done in the past.

by Huey2k2 on Nov 5, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i like doing both
thats why i am curious to see how Burke is going to recoup for the loss of next years 1st over all (as kessel is this years)

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

“If the Leafs had traded…”
It’s not like they didn’t want to.

by theothervatican on Nov 5, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks again go to JFJ for passing out NTC’s and NMC’s as if they were halloween candy.

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by stucky on Nov 5, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and not trading Tucker and McCabe when their value was at its highest

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Here’s one for you.

Imagine if we hadn’t traded away Brad Boyes, or Rask….

by Huey2k2 on Nov 5, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Boyes and Kessel on a line…

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Both right wings...

If we still had Boyes, we wouldn’t have Kessel.

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

shhh

your ruining it

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

adn

I’d MUCH prefer Kessel.
Boyes’ll be washed up soon, I can feel it in my bones.

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well, boyes has been to like 3 or 4 different cities…. so he might not have even lasted with JFJ at the helm

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 5, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Imagine if Rask wasn’t that good or Pogge lived up to his hype.

Sucks we gave guys away but that’s how the chips fall sometimes. We had two of the best goaltending prospects in the league and needed a goalie who was ready to play.

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the problem wasnt so much the goalie traded away it was the return for said goalie.
there had to be better options than Raycroft out there

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Raycroft one season removed from the Calder trophy? It turns out that the freak season he had was his first, not his second.

Hindsight is 20/20.

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

still, you dont trade away a top flight goaltender prospect for a goalie who MIGHT bounce back

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You do when you have two top prospects and that goalie won the Calder and is really young.

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it made tons of sense to me at the time, as well.

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it didnt to me, then i convinced myself it did, then the wheels fell off and i went crazy

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I remember being so excited when we got toskala……….

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 5, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i was actually more excited for Mark Bell, i thought he would rebound for some reason

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

me too

plus he’s pretty

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was not happy about the trade.

I hoped Raycroft would be good, but I was pissed off we didn’t get someone proven for our blue chip goalie prospect.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 5, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hey blurr

Patrick Marleau’s Olympic stock is rising: 6 goals, 10 assists during a 9 game point streak

16 points in 9 games…… LUST

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

giggity

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

UFA Cost ++

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I know

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

BUT

wouldn’t it be awesome if Marleau’s on Team Canada and Thornton’s not???

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why the Thornton hate?

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he annoys me. There is no logical reason for it.

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thorton is a lock.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you think?

I don’t.

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

no way.

by birky on Nov 5, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Strongly agree.

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by Chemmy on Nov 5, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

id say a 50/50 shot

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh sweet fcking christ, enough with jeff carter.

everyone forgets carter was playing like sh8t before the trade deadline that year. That’s why Philly was trying to shop him. He only stepped it up after he was embarrassed by his name being tossed around as trade bait. He scored 15 pts in 18 games from mar 1st to the end of the season. He had scored 38 pts in 64 games prior.

Regardless, IT’S TIME TO LET IT GO PEOPLE.

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by daoust on Nov 5, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

NEVAR!

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jeff Freaking Carter

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the new dream is Marleau anyways

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

excellent

glad you’ve decided to follow blurr and I.

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the more I think about it the more i like it, The bruins will really push to keep Savard, and I think Marleau will be cheaper as he will sign where he wants to play, not where the biggest money comes from IMO

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

isn’t marleau the same age as kabby? isn’t the trade kabby crowd saying he’ll be too old by the time the leafs are ‘ready to compete’?

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by daoust on Nov 5, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he is

one year younger than Kabby……

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

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by PPP on Nov 5, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well then savard is out too

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

do you know who had 34 pts – 4 less than carter – in his first 64 games that year too? LEE NINJA STEMPNIAK.

do you know who also had almost the exact same amount of points in their first 18 games in 08/09 as jeff carter did in his first 18 games in 08/09? LEE NINJA STEMPNIAK.

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by daoust on Nov 5, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Do you know who didn't turn out like Lee Stempniak....?

JEFF

FREAKING

CARTER

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

everyone’s a genius in hindsight, aren’t they?

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by daoust on Nov 5, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i’ve always wanted that trade to happen.

the only folks who get their panties in a bunch about this are the ones who think Kabby is untouchable.

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by blurr1974 on Nov 5, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it's true

Blurr has always regretted that this didn’t happen.

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by Karina on Nov 5, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

although im glad we didnt trade him for vorachek and a 2nd

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 5, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You might not say that

in 4 years.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve@Leafs.HockeyAnalysis.com on Nov 5, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

In fact

I’d just like to point out that Voracek is 20 years old and he’s on pace to score 23 goals and put up 58 points. AT 20!!!

Kessel put up 60 points last year at 21… and we’re all ready to foist him aloft as our (latest) saviour. If we had Voracek feeding him pucks on the power play for the future they might both be shooting out the lights for YEARS.

Oh and they both play RW so we might actually have a balanced attack in the future. Plus we’d have another 2nd round pick to draft… and that never hurts.

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