Leafs at Bruins: Rivalry? Sorry, no.
by Chemmy on Dec 10, 2009 11:00 AM EST
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I got an email yesterday from a Bruins blogger asking if I'd contribute my thoughts on the Bruins - Leafs rivalry. My thoughts basically boil down to: what rivalry?
Are we supposed to be rivals because of the Phil Kessel deal? According to the Boston media Kessel is a player who didn't fit the Bruins system. He's lazy, he only scores with Marc Savard around, he fades down the stretch, he doesn't play physically or back check.
Boston didn't want him anymore. They could have actually negotiated with Milan Lucic instead of handing him a blank check and kept Kessel, Savard, David Krejci and Lucic. Boston didn't do that, so they moved him. As far as moving him goes Kessel didn't get offer sheeted, he got traded. Boston gets two firsts for a player they claim to not want, and we're pretty happy to have Kessel. Where's the drama? Where's the beef?
The obvious answer is that despite their assertions Bruins fans wanted Kessel. They're mad that he spurned their city and they're also rooting against Toronto for the pragmatic reason of hoping those two first rounders are really good picks which makes sense.
That doesn't make a rivalry though. Think about our division: Toronto, Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston. I'm pretty sure no one here would root for Buffalo, Montreal or Ottawa under any circumstances. Boston? Eh, we don't like them because they're in our division but I'd rather see them win than Montreal.
Rivalries are built in the playoffs. The Battle of Ontario made us change our stance on the Senators from "dimwitted cousin" to "ancient enemy". We all hate Philly because of 2004 and Detroit because of our battles in the Norris division. Boston doesn't register.
Tonight the Leafs head back into Boston to avenge their piss poor outing on Saturday night. With a 7-2-1 record over their past ten the sky won't fall if the Leafs lose to a team picked to win the East handily but like any night we'd like to see Toronto win. That still doesn't make this a rivalry. Maybe three years from now Boston and Toronto will meet in the postseason, but until then it's just not happening on our end.
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Original Six match-up isn’t enough to declare a solid rivalry?
-Graham-
by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 10, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions
They get the nostalgia rivalry I guess but can you think of any important series even back then?
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by David Danforth on Dec 10, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Can you remember the last time the bruins and the leafs played each other in a significant game with more meaning other than 2 points?
I can’t
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Last big game I can remember between these two teams was back in March 2004, when Boston came to town with first place in the Northeast was on the line.
Me and some friends were in town, and we talked to a couple scalplers. They were asking 185 for purples…. Each.
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eh
but that wasn’t much of a rivalry, everyone knew that Boston would blow it in the playoffs anyways
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
yeah I know, I remember that, but even then I didn’t feel much for boston.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
It’s just the same as a Leafs-Rangers or Leafs-’Hawks rivalry
No real “hate”.
by WendelMadeMe on Dec 10, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
at least the leafs and hawks played each other in 94 and 95
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Indeed, although I hate the rangers because…well they are the rangers
the Hawks i dint mind i just dont want them winning a cup first
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I hated the Hawks when we were in the same division as them. Just hated them. St. Louis too. Bring back the old Norris division, now there were some rivals.
by general borschevsky on Dec 10, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
How did I forget about St. Louis!
by WendelMadeMe on Dec 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Those were some old-fashioned battles. Old-time hockey.
My hate for St. Louis and Chicago has faded, and the (North) Stars are in Dallas now so that’s completely different.
I still hate Detroit though. A lot.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Detroit is a team I love to hate, though. It is a hate I can wrap myself up in like a nice warm blanket.
Sen’s hate is like an unwashed Snuggy .. it does the job but you feel dirty and kinda bad for having to resort to it.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with Chemmy on this one. Maybe it’s because I’m a child of the 70s, but I’ve often caimed Ottawa barely cracks the top 5 on the rivalries chart and Boston isn’t even on my radar.
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Ottawa topped out pretty high during the 4 playoff series, but have fallen sharply. The only reason they register at all any more is their fans
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Sens could contract and I wouldn’t care. I wouldn’t feel that way about Philly, Montreal and Detroit.
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by mf37 on Dec 10, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, re: Boston. Chemmy sums it up perfectly when he says:
Eh, we don’t like them because they’re in our division but I’d rather see them win than Montreal.
As for Ottawa, I think they have to be in the top 5 current Leaf rivalries, mostly on the strength of the recent playoff series, our universal dislike of Krusty the Kaptain and because it’s fun to keep rubbing the “SNES NATION” centurion video in their fans’ faces.
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
by jrwendelman on Dec 10, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
you know
Of all things I associate with Ottawa, Alfredsson is probably the thing I hate the least.
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 10, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I hate him on principle. If I take him out of a Sens uniform, he might be a player I could be fond of….
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
never, the shooting the puck at neidermayer, the hit from behind on tucker and throwing his stick at parise this year are all things make him a douche for life. Not to mention guaranteeing a stanley cup in 04
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Also when he mocked Sundin during that one playoff series – wasn’t he the guy who made like he was going to throw his stick into the crowd after Sundin got hit or something and his stick went flying into the seats? Alfie was yukking it up, acting like a smartass.
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by jrwendelman on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
yes
the Sundin mocking is the thing that really got to me.
04 I really can’t get mad at him for…. he was the only one on his team playing his ass off. I also believe that he should’ve got the Conn Smythe, not Nieds.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
opposed to what DGB says, I’ve hated him ever since the hit to goal on Tucker
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
same
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
same
absolutely.
i disliked the Sens before that. Him, i hated from that moment on.
Darcy was my fave at the time, and for a guy to do such a dirty hit, to my favourite player, injuring him, in the playoffs, and then scoring a game-winning goal 5 seconds later?
No way. But it happened!
I dislike alfie very much – but I can’t stand Neil – at least Krusty contributes and at times carries that team.
Neil – and the SNES fans love of him is crazy.
I have had them say ’He’s our Darcy Tucker’ but that comparison appalls me so much I have to stave off an involuntary bowel movement
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Saku Koivu I respected even tho he was a Hab. Alfredsson? Never EVER
Fairweather fans can go to hell
same
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
agreed, Saku had class, and you couldn’t help but feel sorry for him for his battle with cancer and the ridiculous “he’s not a good captain because he can’t speak French” faux controversy.
For all the reasons listed above, Alfie’s a gutless puke.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Saku was the last bit of class in that organization.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Mebbe Boston is still bent about this.
For me, Terry O’Reilly was my first-ever favourite player.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
That fan is awesome.
Another awesome Boston fan moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4unmsFPH-g
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
and I’m in it!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hahah that is pretty funny. Which one are you?
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I walk by in the back at around 0:37/0:38, in the Chara jersey and green hat.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
wild hat with a bruins jersey?
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Green Bruins Hat.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
That’s just as bad as a pink hat.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Eat me, that hat is awesome.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this sentiment. Doesn’t mean the games won’t be emotionally charged, but it is a tiny baby rivalry if anything right now.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions
I hate the Habs. I hate the Sens. I hate the Sabres. I hate Liverpool as a Man United fan. Boston…
quiet indifference except for when they’re playing the Leafs.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions
Man United?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
LOL – dude, unless you’re for Chelsea shudders or Barca, you can’t even build an argument lol.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
=P
GO BLUE!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
you’re pretty spot on there for a City fan
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Ciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttttttttttttyyyyyyyyyy!
by WendelMadeMe on Dec 10, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Last game of the season,
Just turned half past four.
city playing Luton,
Heading for a draw.
Pleat sent on his substitute,
To see what he could do.
He put the ball in city’s net,
And in Division Two!
No further comment needed.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Not QUITE as embarassing – close mind you.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Why? Who cares about Luton sending someone down? We made it back up in no time. I’d rather lose to Atlanta in the playoffs than Montreal.
Being sent down or eliminated by your rivals is extremely embrassing.
Yes, but being relegated by YOURSELF is more embarassing than being relegated by your rivals.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Which, if memory serves, is what happened.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
No, you do a good enough job of it yourselves!
Harder, better, faster, stronger because our work is never over.
by Mattblack on Dec 10, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More that you can’t make the argument for your TEAM – and I can’t comment to the majority of United fans being glory hunting assholes – I’ve not met them all.
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
It’s like your signature says. A lot of United fans are going to disappear if the team ever has a dip in performance.
they make too much money for that
-Mr Pot
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I’m more interested in how many of their fans wil l be confused when we win a trophy.
“YAY MANCHESTER!!!”
“wrong one asshole”
when we win a trophy
33 years and counting….
Harder, better, faster, stronger because our work is never over.
now THAT would be funny
too bad both are gonna lose!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I won’t – then again, I’ve really never been around for a “dip in performance” lol
by Blue and White Expat on Dec 10, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
i also hate most teams south of the Mason Dixon line
but your list is a good one (cept Liverpool and United are reversed)
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Tell me you wouldn’t watch that.
I’ll go for a more realistic 24 teams and 8 Canadian ones
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
back to 4 divisions, top team in each division makes it in, then the next four teams in each division have a best of 7 to see who advances with the other teams to the round of 8
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
it should be
then the next four teams in each conference
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
You know what would help us develop a rivalry with Boston?
If the league would stop scheduling all our regular season games with them in a random stretch of December/January.
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by clrkaitken on Dec 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
not so much a rivalry
as a focused dislike for a particular circumstance. Much like how I began disliking the Canucks for Sundin signing with them.
Now, I’m meh on the Canucks again. they don’t really register for me. For Bruins fans, the Kessel wound is still fresh. By next season, I don’t see it carrying as much weight in their eyes as the Habs match ups.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Dec 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions
the Habs games are still my favourites, even though neither of our teams are that good, there’s nothing like a Saturday night Leafs/Habs match.
I wish we played the Red Wings more.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Leafs/Habs have a lot more implications, you got history and undoubtedly Leafs/Habs also represented English Canada versus French Canada back in the day of the Original Six when these were the only Canadian hockey franchises in the NHL.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Saturday wasn’t that boring.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
saturday was a snore fest
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Indeed
The Leafs were napping on the ice and sleeping on the bench
by WendelMadeMe on Dec 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
9 total goals, 2 and 2-half fights…
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Does
Jersey still play all out trap? I haven’t watched one of their games in ages but I do recall having a preference for watching curling over any Jersey game
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like the last time we played each other in the playoffs was 1974. You’d have to go further back to find the last time the Leafs beat the Bruins in a playoff game.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions
there’s history but yea, that would do it
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I used to find it hard to dislike the Bruins simply because of their consistent excellence against the Canadiens, and dusting them off in four last spring. And the previous year almost taking them out and forcing a seventh game in the first round. But this year Bruins fans are being awfully touchy and nasty about the Kessel deal as noted above. I’m developing a nice healthy hatred for this team slowly but surely. Just head on over to Puck Daddy and the blog about the Leafs, and you will see what I mean.
Puck Daddy commenters are, by and large, drooling idiots.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve read in the preview that Thomas will be in. Bruin fans giving us the business about Rask too. Very irritating.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
That being said Andrew Raycroft was very irritating also to say the least.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Rask
is starting to bug the hell out of me.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 10, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Bruins fans gloating about Rask is bugging me way more than Rask. I saw quotes from Rask saying he held no ill will whatsoever towards Toronto, was grateful to have been drafted by such a class organization etc…. I have no hassle with Rask – the fans yakking about stealing him from us is often infuriating. Yuck!
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
thats like bragging you stole candy from a baby
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno, that’d depend on the height of the parents.
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I just can't dislike anyone named Tuukka.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Why does anyone care what fans of other teams say and/or do?
Do you select the movies you like by the people in attendance? Your favourite song based on who illegally downloaded it?
Most Leaf fans are probably idiots (same can be said for many of the Leafs’ former coaches and executives) but I still support the team.
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I try not to care about what other fans say about us. But when you are called a black gay dude, douche and every other name in the book it starts to get on your nerves.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Where are they calling you this?
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Yahoo game recap posts, Puck Daddy blogs etc………
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
get off yahoo comments
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I have been on a bit of a mission to ‘educate’ our American amigos about the glory of the Leafs. It gets nasty sometimes though. Usually fun. Sometimes not.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Given the boards you’re on and your, um, educational approach I’m surprised that’s all you’ve been called.
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It can be a drag for sure. BUT that being said I have definitely had some good chats with very knowledgable fans from teams around the league. It’s mostly fun. Sometimes gets a little testy, but try to keep things cool.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair most of that crap comes from weirdo psychotic Canadiens ‘fans’.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
And most of them
come from TSN.ca & Faceoff.com’s comments pages. It’s the same old crap the Habs jerk fans yammer about, the same old nursery rhymes about “Laffs” and that sort of crap.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Plan the parade. Laffs this, Laffs that. Nauseating. I generally ignore it now.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
All that matters is that I can make fun of their team, and all that they can say is “Laffs” and 1967 to counter
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 10, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
That’s generally about as creative as they get. People in Toronto who are strange and dislike the Leafs are way way more original than Laffs and 1967 blah blah blah.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
The best part is the one habs fan in my fantasy league (We know him cuz he went to high school with us) is in last place, and we all make fun of him because he’s just like Bob Gainey: Can’t make a team for shit
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Blows up shit and creates shit. Welcome to Boob Gainey’s World. Clock ticking on him in Montreal I would say.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
My favourite line to tell him
“Speak Louder Jimmy, We can’t hear you from the bottom of the standings!”
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Love it. I think you should start calling him Bobby or Gainey though.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
It’s nice knowing their retorts beforehand
by WendelMadeMe on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ain’t it? Love your handle by the way! Outstanding!
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
You are welcome sir. I’m curious to know who your mother is. lol
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ever see Junior?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
No, I have not yet had that pleasure.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
You should.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed it is.
It’s sad when I can read the hater’s vitriol before they can even spout their pathetic rhymes.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 11, 2009 7:13 AM EST up reply actions
Cause it’s closer to Leafs. Sometimes I’ll be reading that insult and my mind just reads “Leafs” like normal.
I think it’s supposed to be a play on how we spell it Leafs instead of Leaves… although I would rather not give them that much credit.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Isnt it “Leafs” instead of “Leaves” because the team name isnt referring to actual Maple LEaves, its reffering to the canadian “Maple Leaf” regiment from world war 1, so “Leafs” is actually gramerically correct
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
in this case, ‘Leaf’ is a proper noun – naming something specific, unlike the generic Leaf which we find on trees.
That’s why the pluralization is different
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
English was one of only a few things I was quite good at in school.
Getting teased mercilessly was the other
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Because
poor literacy iz kewl.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 11, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions
If, perish the thought, we happen to go down at some point in the future as in lose, check out the Yahoo game recap. Canadiens ‘fans’, Wings ‘fans’ etc….. come out of the woodwork and just lay a total egg on the Leafs. And that’s being nice. I question the sanity of many of them. One guy is from Woodbridge. Hates the Leafs more irrationally than anyone I have ever read. Strange stuff on Yahoo sometimes.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Most of the people can’t spell either…and a lot of them don’t know a fig about sentence structure.
I mean you get comments like this:
“well it was pay back utahns lie alot too. its been for years told that gangs from california arre here recruiting gang members in the state of Utah. Its utah locals being wannebees and getting killed over since 1990 to now a big HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
precisely
a rivalry for me is born out of games played against each other.
The Bruins have just never registered for me as some kind of “must see” event when it comes to games against the Leafs. Despite the short history, the Ottawa-Toronto rivalry is huge. Predominately due to playoff series matchups, and not much else. I don’t hate the sens because of their fans. I hate them because of some nasty games played against them.
I begrudgingly respect all the original 6 teams. I still remember when the Wings were more hated than the Habs, and I dislike those teams equally, but for me, an original 6 rivalry is a little different than anything else. I wish the Leafs had something more akin to what the Habs and Bruins have with an original 6 team.
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by blurr1974 on Dec 10, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed, “respect” is the key word. As much as I don’t like the Habs and Wings, I still respect their franchises.
The same cannot be said about the Sens.
by WendelMadeMe on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
sports fandom is irrational
supporting ANY team is a ridiculous thing to do. The only real benefit is feeling a part of something larger than yourself. You identify with it, so the slings and arrows thrown at the team hit you personally.
Good on you for being able to shrug them off, but I can’t. It’s a constant irritant that there is such a Leafs hate outside Toronto. 2/3 the the teams in the league I’m indifferent to. But i dont know any hockey fans in Canada who are indifferent to the Leafs.
Rask is fine in my books, its JFJ that irritates the hell out of me.
I harbour no ill will towards players that were stupidly traded away by morons
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ditto. Did I read that JFJ is now a towel boy in Anaheim or somewhere? What is he up to these days? I think I read that on the PPP threads last night.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Aaahhhhhhh that is cool. Better than being a towel boy. I’m glad he is not a scout for us. Wonder what favour he called in from Doug Wilson? Did he make any dumber than dumb trades with the Sharks? I know not.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
JFJ’s biggest “skill” is being John Ferguson’s son. The NHL is a classic cesspool of nepotism. If he didn’t have his late-father’s connections he’d never have gotten a shot in the NHL and he ceratinly wouldn’t have hung-on after getting casheired in Toronto.
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in JFJ's defense
he was an OK judge of talent, hockey-wise. Just couldnt win a trade or not overpay for a UFA to save his life. Or his job.
rec'd
Having Rask would be soooooo sweet right now…. sigh
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Really. That would be harsh man. lol I was just noting that somewhere over the past couple of days.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Don't kill me but...
I always kind of respected the Bruins. Even though I wasn’t there for the 70s the Bruins always seemed like a more respectable version of the Flyers—tough, but not complete thugs. Then they had classy guys like Bourque and Neely as their centrepieces. And as others have pointed out, we haven’t met them in the playoffs in decades. In terms of hatred, I’d easily put the Snes, Habs, Sabres, Flyers, Wings, Hawks and Rangers way above the Bruins.
The Rask thing is a bitter pill but if I was a Bruins fan I’d gloat over that heist too. Can’t blame anyone but JFJ for that.
Plus they gave us the greatest comeback in Leafs history (New Year’s Eve 1989?).
We need some playoff series to become rivals.
And they did give us
a 10-2 victory a while back. That was sweet.
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Truculence is Everything: Vote for the Leaf of the Decade Today.
by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
didnt steen score 3 that game?
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
He sure did!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
For sure. O’Reilly, Gilles Gilbert and Cheevers in nets, Cashman, Hodge and so many others like Stan Jonathan etc……. I was at that famous game at the Forum, Game 7 between Montreal and Boston in 1979, where Lafleur potted that amazing goal to tie it late. Great game – the one where you see Cherry raising his arms kind of taunting the Habs fans on HNIC’s opening jingle. The second best I have ever personally been to except for our classic double OT victory over the Blues in ‘93 at the Garden – game one – Killer Gilmour’s wraparound goal against Cujo. Awesome!
by Pyramid Power on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Also gave us Sittler’s 10-point game.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad about Milbury… ugh that guy’s an idiot.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
beating up rangers fans in msg is the lord’s work.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
They also had the sympathy thing going for them way back when – perpetual playoff losers to the Habs = us rooting for them to curbstomp our most hated rival. Which they didn’t do for something like 145 years. Sigh.
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by jrwendelman on Dec 10, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
my thoughts on the Broons Via 2 years ago
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Ninja fans. I like that.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Generally speaking I hate it when the Leafs play the Bruins. The games always alternate between maddeningly boring defensive battles or one-sided goal fests, and being in their division knowing that these games are important drives me up the wall.
But I couldn’t really care less about the Bruins outside of wanting the Leafs to win games. If Boston fans have been frustrated with their team’s scoring since his departure (and why they would be I’m not sure, they’re a point off the division lead) then that’s their problem, not mine.
That sums it up. I’ve been to too many Bruins games that end up being borefests so really all I hate about them is that they make me consider gouging out my eyes.
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by David Danforth on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been to too many Bruins games
No such thing!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
same ehre, the bruins were fucking boring as hell for a long time
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
maybe we’re all conditioned to not hate the Bruins because we grew up watching Don Cherry ,who loves them?
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions
Good theory
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by David Danforth on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like Don Cherry, but remain indifferent to the Bruins.
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Maybe it’s just our mutual hatred of the Habs that keeps us from turning on each other.
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the enemy of my enemy and all that
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Worked in the playoffs.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
its all in the anti-playoff win ray
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
It’s very funny when teams you hate get swept.
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oh my yes, that is wonderful. What a great series that was last year.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
And Pittsburgh – Ottawa the year before.
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and ducks – sens in the finals
thank god
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
that final was glorious.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I know
That’s probably going to be their most notable accomplishment in the next 40 years
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was soooo nervous the sens might pull out a win somehow
I cant believe every team in the east rolled over so easy for em
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
What suprised me was how easily their forwards rolled over against the Ducks. They were horribly outplayed.
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This was with Heatley in the lineup? Or Hossa? Why can’t I remember?
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Heatly, Hossa was gone 2 years earlier
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
yes
that’s what I thought. The rolling over didn’t surprise me at all. Fisher and Alfredsson are the only forwards they’ve ever had that weren’t pillow soft.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
he wasn’t in those playoffs, but he’s really fallen off since.
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
he has his moments, Ill give him that.
I remember the game against buffalo when he had two sabers drapped all over him and he carried them half the length of the ice and scored on miller
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
i would say
the Bruins are the Northeast time i hate the LEAST, come to think of it
I kinda like Ottawa
There. Got that out of the way. I… know Kung… Fu….
For me Ottawa doesn’t really register as a rivalry. Not like a real intense sort of rivalry like with the other teams mentioned. That it’s taken so much explaining and rhetoric I think speaks to the fact that it isn’t a real rivalry. Not like the habs or redwings. (And crap do I hate the Red Wings) And as for Boston… I don’t even want one with Boston. Boston’s a great hockey club, a credit to league. Its original six status, its preference towards nice physical play, its great jersey, those kickass goalie helmets… and also… it’s Boston. C’mon it’s frigging Boston. Who don’t like Boston? New York I guess but…. Anyway. I like Ottawa and think while maybe a cursory sort of forced rivalry could form in the wake of a great series or player controversy or something it still wouldn’t be real.
I think it has more to do with the fact that nobody likes Ottawa but Ottawa.
by The_Truculenster on Dec 10, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions
i think the main question is HOW can you like ottawa?
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Uhh..be..because
Because they’re the greatest team ever… Their puck control is fantastic….
…They are so much better than every other team and have more grit than anyone else and amazing in every single way possible.
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by The_Truculenster on Dec 10, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 10, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by David Danforth on Dec 10, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with all this, but also think it’s the fans. I loathe the Sens and Habs but that’s likely equal parts on-ice rivalry and loathing their fans. There aren’t a lot of Bruins fans in these parts.
Interestingly, when I lived in the States ‘93-’99 (1) the Habs and Sens were both frequently horrible, and (2) none of their fans were around. I actually pitied them and hoped they’d do better because I was so much more concerned with hating teams that were actually competing with us at the time.
Even in ‘93 I wanted the Habs to make the finals so we could beat them and after Fraser-gate I couldn’t cheer for the Kings. I just cheered for a natural disaster of some kind.
by The '67 Sound on Dec 10, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs TV
Anyone know if Centre Ice picks up games on LTV? I have a free preview until Sunday.
by Its Cold In Here on Dec 10, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions
yes
they do :D
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by Karina on Dec 10, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
mine does usually. For some odd reason, last nights game only gave me the NYI feed. normally i get both teams and can choose which one to watch. My only assumption is the TSN game may have also been on Versus down here, in which case, that feed is usually blacked out. :(
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by blurr1974 on Dec 10, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent post. Is there a newsletter I can subscribe to? I keep making the mistake of thinking there are other decent fan bases out there, but sadly, I get burned every time. I think my New Year’s resolution will be to shoot first and ask questions later when it comes to hockey. Much more efficient that way.
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I can't hate them
I’m still too grateful to the Bruins for sweeping the Habs from the playoffs.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 10, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions
Playing the Bruins?
We should watch out guys, Zdeno Chara could kick all of our dads’ asses. Seriously, he’s like 6’5.
THIS IS A JOKE
I dunno, my dad is kinda like, a Leprechaun.
And by Leprechaun I mean he is short and has red hair (and MAGICAL POWARS)
he is, chara is 6’9
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 10, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Watching the Game - Ottawa Folk
Not sure if this is the right place (maybe a fanshot?), but towards the start of the year a few of us in Ottawa were talking about getting together to watch one of the Leafs games at a bar around here… is anyone still thinking of that, and should we try and set that up soon?
by BetterThanBester on Dec 10, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions
I would go with sometime after the Holidays.
Post a fan shot after Jan 1st and see what we can get rolling.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 10, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
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