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BEAT THOSE DAMN SNES TONIGHT BOYS!!!

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by birky on Dec 14, 2009 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Is Schenn back in?

How about Cox saying that Schenn is being mishandled by the leafs and that he is going to be the next Luke Richardson….

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

RW

was noncommittal on dressing Schenn tonight

by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Furthermore reason for me to beat the shit out of Cox the next time i see that tool

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually damn sick & tired

of the whole Schenn/Richardson correlation bullshit. To me, the only things the two have in common are their first names (Luke) and their jersey numbers (2).

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Schenn and Richardson

They were both first round Leaf picks.

The were both taken seventh overall

They both started in the bigs at 18 rather than skating an extra year of junior/ coming up through the A.

They’re both defensive D-men with little to no offensive upside.

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by mf37 on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d quibble on the last point only because Schenn’s never really gotten a crack at showing that he has any offensive upside.

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by PPP on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Though we did see flashes of it last season...

The shootout in the preseason, owning Carey Price at the YoungStars game, setting up that Stajan goal on Doug Gilmour Night against the Pens, etc…

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Cox seems to think that the leafs have already killed any offensive upside that schenn may have had…. i find that hard to buy

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Dec 14, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Damien Cox is rooting for this kid to fail so he can crow “I told you so”

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by clrkaitken on Dec 14, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You bring up a great point

My question is, why would a writer for a team want to tell everyone who reads his columns that the team he writes for isn’t going anywhere?

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

controversy sells papers

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

That just makes me hate Cox even more… he’s not in it for the team, he’s just there to sell papers.

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It's even worse on HFBoards...

the Leafs forum people (well some of them, anyway) actually made up threads suggesting Schenn be traded and such.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I would totally trade Schenn if the right deal came along

by birky on Dec 14, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

As in...

Thornton, Heatley, Boyle, Nabokov, Marleau, Setoguci and Pavelski for Schenn, Blake and the Vesa?

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

For me,

it woud take Crosby/Ovechkin and two first rounders in exchange for Schenn.

Seeing as that won’t happen any time soon, you can guess my sentiments towards any trades concerning the kid.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

wow. I didn’t know Schenn was the next Bobby Orr.

by birky on Dec 14, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t score goals, he collects souls

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Now you do

But in reality, no player’s untouchable

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by PPP on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Except for Mike Van Ryn. Because once you touch him, he goes on the injured list

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

then stop touching him!

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I was making a reference to fake Brian Burke

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

and i

was making a joke…

you touch MVR, he get’s injured. Solution. Don’t touch him.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh i see. EVERYBODY HAPPY NOW!

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly. See: Wendel Clark

by birky on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

Fairweather fans can go to hell

by leafer1984 on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed, I love Schenn, but if the trade makes the Leafs better, IE Bobby Ryan or something for Schenn, I’ll pack his bags

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what’s really shocking? If the Leafs wanted to trade for Bogosian or Doughty, it would take Schenn plus a first round draft pick, and almost certainly more.

by birky on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i still think Schenn will be better defensively than either of them, but not even close in offense

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d quibble on the last point only because Schenn’s never really gotten a crack at showing that he has any offensive upside.

I like Luke Schenn and think he’s got a big future with the club, but he hasn’t shown any offensive upside. It’s not a knock, it’s just my reading of his play.

If he’s got a shot from the point, I’ve never seen it. In 100GP he’s 2-16-18. These aren’t the traits of a dman with much offensive potential.

Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...

by mf37 on Dec 14, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Schenns offensive ceiling is probably 10-20-30
and that is pushing it, and assuming he gets some decent PP time

Puns, Innuendo and Bad Spelling, Yes We Got That

by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya

That is really pushing it

Fairweather fans can go to hell

by leafer1984 on Dec 14, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

if you look at Schenn’s WHL numbers, you’ll see he never produced all that much to begin with. People like to use Weber as a reason for the extra year of junior, but Weber already was producing at a higher PPG clip than Schenn ever was. Hickey and Alzner are other guys who did the full time in junior and were producing at higher PPG rates.

Tyler Meyers last three seasons of WHL action were 0.25, 0.29 and 0.72 PPG. I think this is more a case of hind sight than projections. Also, as has been pointed out previously, Meyers is getting softer minutes than Schenn.

Long story short, Schenn didn’t look like he was going to be that much of an offensive factor (0.18, 0.4, 0.49 PPG in the WHL) so who cares? Why not celebrate what he projects to do very well, instead of tearing him down for things he never looked like he’d be able to do in the first place?

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This is why

You are awesome.
Well said buddy

Fairweather fans can go to hell

by leafer1984 on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not celebrate what he projects to do very well, instead of tearing him down for things he never looked like he’d be able to do in the first place?

We need to keep this great quote on hand like the “Oh Snap!” gif

I think this is the single biggest challenge with assessing Leaf players – they are often measured by what they don’t bring to the ice.

Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...

by mf37 on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

someone screen cap it

so we can keep with the “my dad can beat up your dad!” one

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 14, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

Sure it would be nice for Schenn to contribute more offensively but I don’t expect it. If he develops into what he was always projected to be, a top-notch shutdown d-man, then I’ll be happy.

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.

by stucky on Dec 14, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

no! fuck that! I say we take this to the limit
Kessel sucks i mean, why the hell didnt he step up when monster went down? I havnt seen him make one glove save or even cover the puck in the crease!

lazy bastard!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The were both taken seventh overall

Actually, Schenn was fifth overall.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

i think that's worthy of an "oh snap"

only because it’s Monday and I’m feeling ornery

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s right, the Leafs traded up from 7th.

Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...

by mf37 on Dec 14, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand why Schenn being compared to Richardson is such a bad thing. Richardson played over 1400 games in his NHL career. He just wasn’t a “cornerstone/franchise” defenseman like Scott Stevens or Adam Foote (and putting Foote as a “franchise” defenseman is pushing it)

by birky on Dec 14, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

its the Aki Berg comparos that bug me

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Schenn will be fine. I don’t have a read on exactly what he will be when he fully develops but I’m confident that he will be an excellent defenceman for many years with the Leafs. Wilson is trying to help and motivate Schenn by letting him watch in the press box on Saturday. Schenn seemed to accept the decision just fine. I’m not going to worry about this unless it looks like I have reason to do so, and right now I don’t think we’re at that point.

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.

by stucky on Dec 14, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d say Robyn Regehr if you ask me. Both are tough motherfuckers and can shut down the best of the best. They can change the team just by being on the ice

Space Weed Says Telling it like it is without a care about the mainstream's feelings
"DO NOT get stuck behind Kyle Wellwood in the buffet line. This isn't really etiquette, but it will prevent you from starving to death"- Down Goes Brown on Etiquette for Jason Spezza's wedding

by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone else head over heels about Kessel? 20GP 11G 8A 19Pts two game winners oh baby

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Kesselmania

it’s runnin’ wild, baby.

Now, if only we can figure out how he can score against the fucking Bruins.

by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

All part of our plan to make Bruins fans think we’re a lottery team for continued future RFA stealing.

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

so which one's next?
  • Blake Wheeler
  • Daniel Paille
  • Vladamir Sobotka
  • Mark Stuart
  • Johnny Boychuk

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Taylor Hall duh.

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

If he hadn’t signed an extension I’d say snatching Tuukka Rask back was our highest priority.

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

totally, but since he signed the extension, i excluded him. :(

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

We should hit Tuukka Rask with a car.

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

ok

you and Skinny Fish are closest. get to it.

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Cornelius Hardenbaugh has been enjoying our company without contributing any street level violence for a long time. I entertain him and carry him on my back through MW2 games the least he could do would be to hit Tuukka with a car for me.

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

good point.

CH, you’re up!

I have nothing interesting to say.

by blurr1974 on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

PPP stealin’ tweetz up in he-ah

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by Chemmy on Dec 14, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Thanks research department

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by PPP on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Kessel

<3 <3 <3

leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.

by stucky on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Is there any reason why every big Leafs win has to be attributed in the MSM to failings by the other team? Was there a single article about the Caps win that didn’t mention their flight problems? On the other hand, how many bothered pointing out that in the most recent loss to the Bs, Boston had sat at home resting for 4 days while the Leafs played two games, including one the night before? Or that in the first Bs game they had shat the bed in monumental fashion the night before, making a bounce-back game almost inevitable? Argh.

by The '67 Sound on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

GASP!

Are you saying the media might mislead us by spinning the facts?

NO WAY!

(end sarcasm)

"If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 14, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

THANK YOU BLURR!!!1 LOVE YOU!!!!11

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by eyebleaf on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

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