Leafs: 3 Sens: 2. The Aftermath
All hail the conquering heroes. The Leafs emerged victorious over the Ottawa Senators. The first period click away with no score. Putting up goals in the second was Jason Blake and Phil Kessel. Making sure the deed got done, Micket Grabs or Mikhail Grabovski. Mike Komisarek was rampaging and landing hits. I think this was a quality effort yes?
It's a 30 Rock Gif Dance Party!

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They like the taste of balls in their mouth.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
They like the taste of rotten balls in their mouth.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks sugar booger.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
more dancing

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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions
30 rock gifs AND a Leaf win? fanastic
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LEAFS WIN!
who said the Leafs couldn’t lay a beating on the SN*S with Schenn in the press box?
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TSN picture of Spezza leaving the game

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Wooo hooooooooo I did it!!!
Two straight games I joined the PPP thread and 2 straight games the Leafs won! It must be me!
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
So you must join in every game!
Until the Leafs lose. Then you’re banned. :P
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Ha. Earlier this year I was threatened to be kicked out but the Leafs won that game too! Leafs are 3-0 when I’m in this thread! That’s like, what, 50% of Leaf wins?
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
Saucy fucker
More like 25%. So there!
by Bobby Paradise on Dec 14, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
you do math wade belak good
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I do math like Wade Belak just punched me in the head
Which is why I’m not in a profession that requires more math than turning pages.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
Heh
I’d trade for Belak if NSH would throw in Hamhuis. We could use some D that know how to skate and a guy that knows how to punch.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
And he finally got called back up today!
You guys missed your chance at Nylander. He better stay up the rest of the year. Alzner is awesome, I really love his game. He’s already one of our 4 best D. Maybe even 3.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
Which is why GMGM wouldn’t trade him for Pronger. Good call. He’s going to be on our top pair within the next two seasons. I don’t know how long you guys have gotten to watch him but he’s so smooth and makes impeccable decisions with the puck.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
I remember Alzner being so money when he played for Team Canada at the World Juniors. I figured if he could play like that consistently he’d become an excellent NHLer.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Yeah, pretty much that’s exactly how he is. Unlike the rest of the Caps D not named Mike Green he knows what he’s going to do with the puck before he gets it and is able to do it. His short distance lateral movement is also amazing. Guess it’s kind of a weird thing to compliment a guy on but it allows him to cover lots of distance in the tight areas very quickly.
You're the reason that I hate Nova Scotia.
Counterpoint
Leafs are 2-1 vs. Caps this year.
:D
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
oh snap
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yet another reason why you’re cool
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
You don't wanna fuck with us SNES, just like Jason Arnott!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions
WOOOOO! GO LEAFS GO!!!
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions
Flyers won, Panthers won, Rangers and Habs are tied
Not a great night , bad if the Habs win
Boo hoo!
Season's less than half over
If the Leafs are winning, I don’t care what everyone else does at this point
by Its Cold In Here on Dec 14, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
As long as other games don’t go to OT, fucking charity point
by Its Cold In Here on Dec 14, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ya
Kinda hard to complain about it, its one of the only reasons we’re so high up
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Victory is OURS
Go Leafs Go
"Luke Schenn is Stronger than Strength."
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Yep
Not the most exciting game but we held them in check for the most part, worked and forechecked hard and got timely scoring.
That’s a formula I wouldn’t mind repeating.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Hey *NSNES... ARE YOU READY?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Pssst. Use tinypic.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I just wanted to do the DX gif
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
PHOTOBUCKET?
Break it Down!
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Got away with that hit on Kovalev
and Poni got away with the hit from behind on Cheechoo
Nice to have some non-calls go our way
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Komi was beastly tonight
and Exelby was surprisingly good tonight, Two assists & a +3? Gotta give credit where credit’s due. I slag on XLB a lot, but tonight was his best game of the season.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
booourns
If God didn't want me to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Come on Buffalo
Beat the Habs. In regulation time!
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this isn't relevant

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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
love
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
I wish i made it. But i found it.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
LOL!!!1
Awesome, but I still like my Jason Arnott pic
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahaha! awesome!
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS: Leafs set to trade Rickard Wallin to Florida for Nathan Horton and a 1st rounder.
UPDATE: Keith Ballard accidentally hits Randy Sexton in head, rendering him unconscious, just before deal is signed. The trade will be put on hold until further notice.
Get a source, fanshot and i will put it on the front.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Aw nuts
Freakin Horton Hat trick.
WANT
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wait was that sarcasm? I’m so goddamn tired.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
i hate you for this
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
9-2-2 in the last 13 games. PLAYOFFS!!!!1
by Likely on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That’s impossible. They’re 7-3-0 in their last 10, so they can’t be 9-2-2 in their last 13.
-Graham-
by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Okay I don't get Wrasslin now
They make some guy paler than Jason Blake champion? What next? Jason Blake actually becoming champion?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions
Ah yeah, him....
that was crazy…
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather have Cena
this kid’s just like Orton except Irish and an even bigger tool
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well unless they bring back Jeff Hardy, Sheamus isn’t gonna be fun. Cena is at least entertaining. Sheamus is so bland. OY ME SHEAMUS. I END YOUR CAREER. I’M PALER THAN JASON BLAKE! He’s so lame…
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
And honestly
the guy beats up on lower card wrestlers and announcers. Yeah, real tough guy he is.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Sheamus is just a crappier version of Orton though, just doesn’t have legacy or the fact that you just don’t like him. Sheamus is a piece of shit who got lucky, Orton’s got skill but he always gets Legacy to do his work and who always plays dirty
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
The least they could've done with Sheamus
is to have him beat up major superstars and basically anyone else other than jobbers and/or announcers/non-wrestlers.
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Though that would be Orton all over though, that’s what Orton does
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Legacy vs DX again?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm.....
CC?
Really good looking in real life.
by Archimedies on Dec 14, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
It’s gotten too off topic. my fault
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Drug Posession
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Americans are more tight-assed on their weed laws
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Was it just weed? I thought it was more, but I could quite easily be wrong.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
Hardy’s a stoner, he prolly had more. That’s why Hardy is so badass
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
The Moore County Sheriff’s Office confirmed that during a search of his house they seized 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 Soma prescription pills, 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine and other items of drug paraphernalia.
What steroids…and painkillers….they should arrest all wrestlers!!! =D
OY HE DID
He backdropped Cena thru the table. Such Bs. They better make someone cool the next champ.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
He can be the masked albino hamster and his finisher would be a spinorama punch to the chest.
by Likely on Dec 14, 2009 9:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So a White Rey Mysterio?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
No just give him the number of shots he has this season. It’s still gonna be 619
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
to the east(ern conference playoff race)
by Its Cold In Here on Dec 14, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
oh man
if nyr loses in the shootout, it will be a 5 way tie with 31 points
Of course we lose the tiebreaker against all of them…. but still
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Back-to-back games
I avoided this GDT during game action
Back-to-back wins.
Really good looking in real life.
Well duh
I watched the game. I just didn’t comment.
Monster’s haircut is an A+
Really good looking in real life.
He looks sooooo hot.
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YEAH SABRES!
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Also;
I won’t be here tomorrow. You’ll have the overlords. I’ll be in Seattle at Museeeeee.
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NICE
Have an amazing time
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
WAC – if you eat meat, check out Salumi (it’s Mario Batali’s dad’s joint in Seattle. House cured meat and good sandwiches, it’s a tiny place everything is pretty much to-go).
If you like wine, the Washington Tasting Room is great. A few blocks east of Pike’s market (the Harlequin Viognier is amazing).
Have fun in Seattle!
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Oh spoke too soon. Cammaleri ties it up.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions
ASS!
"Luke Schenn is Stronger than Strength."
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh but now Buffalo power play. Still time left.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions
Sticking with the 30 Rock motif...
I think I’m gay for Kessel.
Call me superstitious, but I'm pretty sure the Leafs do better when I'm drinking.
by seankelly on Dec 14, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Omg lollllll
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well played good sir
well played
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome
It’s put together just poorly enough to be absolutely hilarious
Really good looking in real life.
ATL beats NYR
NYR with same amount of points as the Leafs
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Wilson Presser
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions
RE Crowd noise There are some nights when I think I am back at the Providence College Library
OUCH
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
oh those nights you can hear the crowd though (booing)
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson: Vesa has done a great job recently. When you trust your goaltender other things fall into place.
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Q: would you fine someone for icing the puck
Wilson: No I don’t believe in fining players they work to hard for the money
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Finger
Wilson: Jeff is fine
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Berger we didn't think a month ago the leafs would be in this posn are you surprised
Wilson: I have been in that situation before and all it takes is stabilizing the goaltending
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know who asked it . Wasn’t Berger
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by The Meatriarchy on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Andrei Kostitsyn three point night. Obviously he is is VERY happy his little brother back up with the Shabbies.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Toskala's SV % over the last 5 GP
.917% (vs Ottawa)
.919% (vs Washington)
.879% (vs Boston)
.938% (vs New York Isles)
.917% (vs Atlanta)
This guy’s made a lot of improvement since the beginning of the year.
Pumps out more male with one thrust of the pelvis than the United States postal service over the last 146 years.
There wasn't really any other way to go
than up. What a disaster at the start of the year. I’m glad him being pain-free is translating into solid ’tending.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
so we need to sit him next game, right?
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by Karina on Dec 15, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I dunno. NHL.com says Beauchemin too.
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TSN Highlights said Grabs tipped it
by Its Cold In Here on Dec 14, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Was initially credited to Beauch, but they changed it because it went off of Grabbo.
-Graham-
by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 14, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
grabbo rules, i have no idea why people hate on him so much
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
stajan i can see, exelby, i cant
tonight exelby played well. other nights….
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
I feel the same way about Stajan and Exelby.
Exelby puts himself out of position by playing too aggressively and going for hits that aren’t there. That type of play burns his partner and exposes the Leafs to a lot of odd man rushes/ scoring chances.
I don’t like Stajan because he’s a pillow-soft turnover machine who’s only putting up points because he’s logging massive minutes playing with Phil Kessel.
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I thought that was because of Poni and Antro? And I guess it was the spirit of Dave Keon that was one of our best forecheckers against Washington.
If Kessel’s the only reason Stajan is scoring, why didn’t Mitchell do anything when he played with him?
At some point, are people going to at least acknowledge the possibility that maybe Stajan is starting to enter his prime as a player?
Resident Capologist
while Stajan is crap as a 1st line center, he is muchnmore talented than mitchell
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
That isn't
setting the bar very high
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Counting only his games with Kessel, I think Stajan is one of only 15 centers who are at a PPG or have something like 34 points in 35 games. That’s pretty good.
Last season
he led the NHL in 2nd assists… just saying.
This year he’s actually scoring goals which helps his case. He didn’t do much of that in the past.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes the second assist can creat a two-on-one or it can be a bomb that gets tipped then have rebound slotted home. It’s tough to criticize someone for second assists.
It's still not exactly indicative of being the primary set up man
particularly if you actually watched the Leafs last season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Mitchell
is garbage.
That is my point and I’m sticking to it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Stajan on the other hand
is growing on me… sort of like White did last season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
he does seem to have found some of White’s work ethic.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I dont like stajan, but frankly we are stuck with him so i may as well root for him
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Poni is still out there to be fair
It wasn’t like Stajan was putting up points with Kessel when he was playing with Blake and Kessel.
PONI is part of what’s making the whole thing click. yes Stajan is doing well… but Poni gets some credit too.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
poni is playing very well, i really want him to be resigned
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be curious to see how that line produces
if Poni were injured… not that I want that to happen… but it would clear up in my mind how important Stajan is vs. Ponikarovsky.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
i think its a bit of both
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can all agree
not for Antropov $$$s though
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
and he's producing
with Hagman and Grabovski… he’s more of an enigma than most forwards. Blake can be VERY productive when he’s with the right players. Stajan has proven time and again to NOT be one of those players.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
the fact that he is producing with grabbo is surprising to me, i never would have thought that would have worked
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's great frankly
Grabo and Blake are very similar players… and Hagman is the trigger man on that line. It works pretty well… and they actually hit for the small buggers they are.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
grabbo and blake on the forcheck is a thing of beautiful chaos, like sparrows attacking a crow
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
haha, whatever it is, they’re great at antagonizing, and I love it.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
@Clawson and @clrkaitken: Stajan is a product of ice time and Kessel.
Stajan’s without Kessel: 3G 4A 7 pts (0.58 pts/gm)
Stajan’s with Kessel: 8G 11A 19pts (0.95 pts/gm)
Any team that’s in serious contention is not running a soft guy like Stajan as their top C 20 minutes a night.
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Said soft guy
is still producing at a decent rate with a good winger. Irrespective of the reason behind it, the line is working as a trio.
I don’t think it matters that it’s Kessel, Stajan, and Poni right now since they are the top trio the team has right now, while Grabo-Hagman-Blake is the 2nd unit.
The defined 4 lines are working, and frankly you don’t do anything to break them up 5 on 5. When Mitchell get’s healthy he sits until someone is injured… or the lines start to screw up again.
As for the PP, I think they need to change things again.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is Stajan
the poor man’s Andy MacDonald?
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Dec 15, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
haha
I thought that was Andrew Ebbet?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I think Stajan
is basically the rough equivalent to Todd White.
He might get 70 points in a season playing with Kessel… sort of like White got 73 playing with Kovalchuk, or 60 playing with Alfredsson.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not denying that Stajan’s producing at a decent rate (hence the numbers in my post).
But I don’t think those numbers are worth paying market value for when his contract comes up.
On the off-chance the Leafs make the playoffs, I have a feeling Stajan will get eaten alive.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
he’s one of the few Leafs we have left from when we were last in the Playoffs, isn’t he?
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
yup, and Quinn scratched him for the series. I think he’s got maybe 2 post-season games under his belt.
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15 of his points
have come with Kessel.
13 have come with Poni.
11 have come with both.
5 of his points came with Blake.
He’s played with Kessel and Poni 32% of the time… and yet he has over 2/3rds of his points with them.
It’s the other two impacting Stajan, and not the other way around would be my guess.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
He has played with Blake
roughly 20% of his ice time.
That means his 5 points with Blake (around 1/6th of his points) despite 1/5th of his ice time… means his production with Blake isn’t horribly far off from his ice time with him… but it’s less than one would expect.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the math. I don’t think Stajan is worth the ~$4M it’s going to take to sign him.
Hope he keeps putting up the points to max out his value at the trade deadline.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Kessel + Poni
with Marleau? That would be impressive.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Marleau as a leaf
sigh
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
or perhaps
Tomas Plekanec?
or Alex Tanguay?
or christ I’m running through the UFA list for this coming off season… there’s a HUGE paucity of top line scoring talent.
Marleau is going to get a HUGE amount of money.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
The further I go down this list
the more I think signing Stajan for $3.5 million is a great idea.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
he's only 25
and most of the guys who might be comparable or better are older.
Plekanec is the only guy between Stajan and Marleau that plays Centre who might be worth $3.5 or $4 million.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Unless they can make a trade that brings in a top end prospect
or they want to run with the likes of Bozak… but yeah…
not sure how that’s going to pan out at this point.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
all depends what Kaberle fetches in the off season!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Stajan is the youngest
UFA forward in the NHL going into next season… how’s that for random?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
he also might take a hometown discount!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
then we've got options like
Chris Higgins (26), Kyle Wellwood (26), Tomas Plekanec (27)
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
no, no and no
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
So Stajan it is?
which means he doesn’t need to take the hometown discount.
So he’s going to want $4 million, and Burke may have to give it to him.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
as things stand now it is would seem the best course of action, but then i have do doubt the landscape will look much different when signing time comes around
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
not from a UFA perspective
if anything FEWER guys will be available on the market… which will only drive up his potential value.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
well no, but there are still a ton of questions, where and how the cap space is spent, who is or isnt traded at or before the deadline. are the leafs making a playoff push or are they trying just to finish out of a lottery spot, is anyone traded, etc
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
unless
Burke trades Kaberle for a center and Stajan for picks at the deadline.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
and who is to say Burke doesnt get over payment offers on both Kabby and white and they both go out the door?
Zaniness!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
sadly yes, i can see Marleau getting 7+
i have unrealistic dreams of him signing for 6ish
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
that's way too much
for Marleau… if we plan on bringing Kadri in in the near future.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
yah, but its marketish value for a talent like his
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
which is why the Leafs should ignore him.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
there's also Olli Jokinen
and he’s 31…. and making over $5 mill a year.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
id take Marleau for 6 for 4-5 years, but then i am not good with money
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Leafs can't afford
$6 million is too much.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
unless they off load some, which is another issue all together
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
But who do they off load?
Even if they drop Kaberle that still leaves them carrying the Finger, Beauchemin, Komisarek, Schenn, and Gunnarsson and they’ll likely want to resign White.
That’s an expensive set of D. Then they still have Hagman, Blake, Kessel, Grabovski, and Orr up front. They probably want to keep Kulemin.
They have to figure out what to do with Poni, Stajan, Stempniak, Wallin, Mayers, and Primeau.
If you bring back Poni and Stajan at a raise, then you have to fill the other 4 roles with cheaper talent… so Hanson, Bozak, Stalberg, and maybe Hamilton?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
exactly, there are way too many variables.
I do think either one of white or Kaberle will be moved before next season which will give about 3-4.25mill in space and I also think there is a half decent chance at moving Finger to a playoff team ravaged by defensive injuries
there is also the goaltending issue though, who signs and for how much
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
losing Kaberle
and Toskala, Stempniak, Wallin, Mayers and Primeau amounts to about 9 or 10 million available under the cap.
That means if they can bring back Stajan, White, and Poni for an average of $3.75 million, they’ll cost $11.25 million… I don’t know if they can afford all 3.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
woops my math sucks... but yeah
More like $13 or 14 mill available under the cap.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, and say 1.5 mill for a backup and 2.5 for gusto, thats about as cheep as the goaltending might get
and i dont see them, as of now, going forward with a gustavsson mac combo
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
As an industry guy...
NHL.com sucks. badly.
Really good looking in real life.
by Archimedies on Dec 14, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Should clarify
At being quick and accurate on goal scoring credit most of the time.
Other than that, the site is incredible.
Really good looking in real life.
by Archimedies on Dec 14, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Given my workplace
I expect people to reciprocate my thick skin as people constantly insult it.
Really good looking in real life.
by Archimedies on Dec 14, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Heart rate increasing...
C’mon Sabres!
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 14, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions
Kaleta penalty for Sabres with exactly two minutes to go.
Refs had to even it up because Montreal had more penalties than the Sabres. Blech!
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
YAAAY SABRES!
Now I will never cheer for you again. Punks.
by Bobby Paradise on Dec 14, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions
SABRES WIN!
Enjoy it while it lasts. This is the only night I ever cheer for you, Buffalo.
"Luke Schenn is Stronger than Strength."
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Stupid Slugs
They’ve still got a game against *NSNES later this week
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 14, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Despite the fact that the penalty box guy at the Bell Centre didn’t start the clock with 19 secs left. Thought he could pull a fast one, but the refs checked it and ended the game. Ha!
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing surprises me in Montreal at the Molson Misery Centre. Love it indeed sir!
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Leaf in Habland.
How hard is it to live in enemy territory? My Leaf loving pal lives in Kirkland. Says he has almost gone to jail for assault for the abuse he takes. Just horrible.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Well considering I don’t go out to bars or get drunk, I’m usually ok. Most of my friends give good natured ribbing, and they know what goes around comes around. To be honest though, the Leafs have not made the playoffs since I’ve moved here so I kind of have to take it. Looking forward to this year though. The 3-0 win was great. I went to the game. They took it well enough.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Thou art wise. My buddy says it mostly stays cool EXCEPT when his Hab loving pals get smashed and lose. Then the abuse gets nasty and things get a little ugly to say the least. And this is amongst his long-time friends that I know! Amazing. Habs fans so classless – booing the hell out of Komisarek and Grabovski. And we give lengthy video tributes to Darcy Tucker and all our legendary ex-Leafs and nary a boo at the ACC. Montreal fans just kinda make me sick so often and for so many different reasons.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
The thing with Komi that no one will mention is that if he sucks so much, how did he make the all-star game? They have to either admit that he’s decent, or admit that they rigged the voting. I mean, it was so obvious, you think they would just cop to it (because as good as he is, he’s no all-star), but no, to them he’s a chump and what are you talking about what ballot stuffing?
I go to as many games as I can, just because I love hockey. The fans are such sheep. They don’t actually know the game. At least, not the ones making most noise at the Bell Centre. They refuse to acknowledge good calls if the calls are against them. Don’t recognize good play if it is against them, or bad play if it comes from the Habs. But then they turn around and boo their team if they are losing. There is some deep psychological hurt going on for Habs fans. I realise it is political and historical for many. I think it is interesting that Leafs fans have suffered much worse, and yet we (well, on this site anyway) are quite a reasonable bunch. I guess if the commentors on The Spin are exemplary of Leaf fans, there are some troubled tommies in our cohort as well, but there seems to be a bit of a blissful ignorance among many Habs fans.
There are some ok ones though. A friend of mine actually took the season off from being a Habs fan because he said he got too emotionally invested. He didn’t want to care as much as he did. Seriously, deep psychological stuff over here…
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs fans on this site are fairly reasonable!
This is our shelter from pretty much every other Leaf related forum. =D
DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!
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by Travis Hair on Dec 14, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
two points out of the playoffs, holy shit….
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions
OPTIMISM
It’s INFECTIOUS!
Leafs Nation: A drinking team with a hockey problem.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe we’re two points out after that start.
It nearly brings a tear to my eye.
Boo hoo!
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 14, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions
Smells like Habs arsehole to me
CAUSE WE’RE RIGHT UP IN IT WOOOOOO
by Bobby Paradise on Dec 14, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Based on the Leafs win pattern recently, does that mean that they’ll lose to Phoenix and then beat Boston and Buffalo? Yeah…
If you check out NHL.com's Top 10 Hits of the Week
4 of them are by Leafs. Schenn is on there twice, and his hit against NYI is #1. SCHENNULENCE!
Pumps out more male with one thrust of the pelvis than the United States postal service over the last 146 years.
Motherfackin' Truculence, baby!
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
and he might be playing for the Marlies
in less than a week!…
go Marlies!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think so, i think he’ll get another shot before they do that
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
So do I. I think it would be a mistake to send him down. Let him watch from the pressbox for awhile.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
they won’t leave him there long, because playing is better than sitting. but for the short term, if the team is winning, sit him. It’ll make him hungry.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see why they wouldn't demote him
Gunnarsson, Exelby and Finger are all ahead of him at this point.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
i dont see how gunnar is ahead of him, he has, what, 5 nhl games? sure he has played well, but that is a small sample size
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
And in those 5 games
he played very very well… and wasn’t making the mistakes Luke has been making.
He’s ahead of him at this stage of his development. He has more seasoning in the Swedish league… and I think the age factor is relevant.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
So Luke needs to swallow some humble pie and go play with the Marlies? OUCH!
Just don’t know if that is the answer but I want him logging heavy minutes. Maybe that is the answer as painful as that is.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
in 8 games
Gunnarsson has undone everything Schenn has in this season and the last? Gunnarsson has not even had a cup of coffee in the bigs, and he’s out for 6 weeks with a hyper-extended elbow.
Yes, he’s looked good in his 8 games . Say what you will about the SEL, but success there does not automatically equate to success in the NHL. See Wallin, Rikard for one example of that. Schenn looked good playing with Gunnarsson, and even though he’s been benched, he’s improved leaps and bounds since the beginning of the season.
I think it’s a little early in either of their playing careers to determine who’s the better d-man, and especially given such a wide disparity in their level of experience. Not to mention, completely different playing styles.
I have nothing interesting to say.
by blurr1974 on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I just want them to be very very careful with Schenn's psyche/confidence. Call it what you will.
Don’t fuck him up like we did with Todd Gill etc……
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
We fucked up Todd Gill?
lol… wow… that was not expected.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think it will mess schenn up mentally, i figure he can handle it. I just think he will be back on form after this 2 game thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's amazingly optimistic
but we shall see.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
thats how I roll
I also think schenn was playing 100 percent better in the games before the boston one, where he was abysmal, but still, his game was coming back
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Good game + Bad game
is the problem. They need good game + good game + good game… the mistakes are killing the team defensively.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
yah, but he had 3-4 good games prior, better in each one. then one crap game where he seemed to forget everything about playing defense
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
he had even brought his plus minus to flat. Not great and not totally indicative of his play this season. It gets softer minutes this year, but it was progress. But he needs to get that he needs to be on each night, somethings negative feedback works too.
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
HE was also a regular
on the atrocious PK… which has seriously regressed again recently.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
it really is atrocious, it’s amazing how they just can’t resolve that for any stretch of games.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
They did
for almost 12 games… then it went south again.
Kinda weird frankly. and the PP has sucked since Kessel joined the team for the most part also.
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
actually to be fair
the PP has sucked for most of the season, it was just covered up by their record of goals with 5 on 3’s, and that one ridiculous game against Anaheim where they had 5 on the PP.
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
they funnel the puck to Kessel and expect him to score, he seems more like a rush scorer rather than a guy tapping in cross crease passes.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
teams just stack up across the kabby kessel line, the only time the PP has a chance is when a shot from the opposite point opens up
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think there's a reason
that Boston hardly used him on the PP.
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he is pretty easy to cover when he jsut tries to line up at the circl
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
for those kind of plays he’d need a team that can really give them to him
by The_Truculenster on Dec 14, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. He got sat for regressing back to the bad habits from earlier this season in that Boston game. It drove home the point that he can’t be sloppy, even he can’t expected to get a free pass.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see Burke/Wilson sending him down to the Marlies. Might have to be done though. Ouch! That is tough. Imagine if Frogren was a decent d-man and Van Ryn was healthy. What a fucking logjam back on our line. Wild.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 14, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Frogren is decent. The Leafs need to have better than decent. And depth is never a bad thing right?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Frogren is a good 3rd pairing D man, id put him on par with exelby without the running around like a crazy man
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
XLB had his finest game as a Leaf (maybe ever) tonight, but I’d still move him out for Schenn, Gunnar, or the Techno Viking. Sadly, I don’t have a vote on this.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 14, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't Frogren
still have to clear waivers if we were to call him up? That leaving him open to being picked up by other teams?
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by Marc Pilgrim on Dec 14, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think this is a good idea. First of all, we need 8-NHL calibre defencemen to get through the season. There will be more injuries. Gunnarson, as well as he has played, is the one who is better off in the minors. Schenn has played a full NHL season already. He’ll be fine. No sense putting Gunnarson ahead of him just yet. They are different kind of players anyway. You have two depth-charts really, the skill chart and the beef chart. Only Beauch is on both.
Skill:
Kabe
Beauch
White
VanRyn (injured, obviously)
Gunnar
Beef:
Beauch
Komi
Finger
Exelby
Schenn
If RW and BB want to keep as many beef-D in the lineup as possible, then it makes more sense for Schenn to stay, even if he has to sit once in a while. Sitting won’t hurt him. Sending him to the Marlies is way too much of a slap int he face. It’s not going to be motivating for him at all.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, and there’s Frogren on the beef train as well, likely behind Schenn, and he’s already down there. We’ve got very good depth on D. Schenn can afford to sit.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why Gunnarsson is better off in the minors
and it sends the wrong message continually. You punish the guy that has yet to screw up by sending him down, meanwhile the kid you’re treating with “kid” gloves and screws up continually keeps getting more “chances” to improve while hurting the rest of the team with his mistakes?
How does that make any sense?
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
All because we're worried about Schenn's
fragile little ego?
If he’s that freaking fragile, do we really want him on the Team long term anyway?
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ideally I want Gunnar an Schenn playing together, it worked well so far this year and has the possibility to be one of the leafs main pairings for a good long time.
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think this year is still a work in progress
but if Burke is serious about making the playoffs… and he puts that ahead of all those concerns around future development… he sends Gunnarsson AND Schenn down, and he calls up Frogren and plays Exelby and Finger.
Let Gunnarsson and Schenn play together on the farm to develop if that’s the main concern.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, both Gunnar and schenn are too good to be on the Marlies, but if they were down there playing together and developing chemistry I could live with it.
The Leafs just currently have too many D men that can play in the NHL.
I would be less than surprised to see one moved after the break, but like you said, I think burke keeps all his eggs in the basket in a drive to get into playoff contention until at least the trade deadline
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I find this idea that the players are "too good" for the Marlies a bit weird
The Marlies are in 2nd last place in their division, and frankly the team sucks.
They aren’t exactly deep with talent, and playing kids like Schenn and Gunnarsson might actually make them competitive.
We traded away Tlusty for a prospect that is still in the QMJHL. We sent Stefanovich and Dale Mitchell back to junior. The Marlies are not that good right now.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
RIght now
Schenn is the 7th or 8th D man on the 2nd worst defensive team in the NHL.
How can we say that he’s too good for the AHL in that case? Seriously… think about that for a minute.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Defence is not just about the defencemen. It is about goaltending and forwards coming back. It’s not fair to conflate those two rankings. There is a difference between slump and not ready. If he’s not ready, you send him down. If he’s slumping, you sit him in the press box. I don’t see how that harms him.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure why it can't be both.
So far his slump has extended to almost 30 games.
That’s more than a “slump”, and his improved play of recent was in a completely limited role that saw him playing less than 14 minutes a night, which is a huge shift backwards from last season.
The minors are there for development and a reduced level of pressure… I don’t see the harm in sending him down at this stage of his career. A lot of D men do so, and he shouldn’t be particularly ahead of all of them at this point.
I also fail to see how it’s the forwards’ fault that Schenn seems to make one or two horrible plays with the puck on a nightly basis. He still tends to over handle it at times.
He also has games where he goes from being a physical force to more of a passive presence and missing coverages regularly… that again isn’t the fault of the forwards.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it is a matter of ego. I think it is a matter of development for Gunnarson. If the argument is we don’t want to ruin good young defencemen by rushing them, then we have a good chance to keep this kid in the minors. That ship has sailed with Schenn, and let’s be honest, he is an NHL-calibre defenceman. He did it last year and he did it well. He’s just in a slump right now, which happens. When that happens to an NHL defenceman, he gets to sit in the press box for a while. No big deal. It’s not like Matt Gilroy, where it is his first year in the league. It just seems overkill. He is at least as good as Finger and Exelby most nights.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
And to be fair
none of them is really that good. Again – I repeat this – the Leafs suck in their own zone when Schenn is in the line up.
Exelby and Finger make mistakes, but it doesn’t screw them up for an entire game, and I’m realizing that for the both of them the more I watch their games.
Schenn on the other hand makes a couple of mistakes, then he has a horrible NIGHT. He needs to relax in his own end, and he needs to adjust to the idea that not every mistake is catastrophic to his game.
I don’t see any significant value to him playing 10-13 minutes a night in the NHL when he could be playing 20+ in the AHL in all situations.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 14, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
And following that same logic
I think Gunnarsson would also be better served by doing so in the Minors if he isn’t playing 20 minutes a night in the NHL. Injuries will inevitably happen, which is when the kids should be called up. But I see ZERO value to constantly limiting their role on the team, and only playing them in limited roles.
Why bother?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
One reason why it is better to play in the NHL is that those 10-13min are going to be much tougher than the 20 he’ll play in the AHL. Another is that he gets to play with Beauchemin, Kaberle and Komisarek, which is a better learning experience than playing with Frogren and whoever else is on D for the Marlies.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 15, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
And yet
90% of the D men in the NHL play a significant role in the AHL prior to making the NHL.
The idea that players (or anyone for that matter) learn best through osmosis and watching is a bit flawed.
MOST people learn best by doing… and doing things A LOT. Not doing them every so often and then watching other people do them a lot.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Oh and "living" with Beauchemin
or Komisarek on the road… doesn’t really have a huge impact on his development as far as I can tell either.
He’ll still spend lots of time around those guys, and he’s absorbing lessons all the time. Nobody is saying the move to the AHL should be permanent… but right now he should be playing big minutes for the Marlies. He isn’t gaining anything by being a 6th D man on a team that gives up a zillion goals. His mental toughness is obviously taking a beating and I don’t think he’s suddenly coming out of things… despite what the Leafs TV broadcast crew would have us believe.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
if schenn comes back and continues to struggle, I could get behind this sending him to the Marlies thing. But as it stands now I think it is important to see how he reacts to the press box time
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah except
how do you tell the guys ahead of him right now to take a seat? They’re winning and playing well… do you just suddenly bench a guy so you can “find out” if Schenn learned his lesson?
If the team keeps winning… Schenn keeps sitting… and eventually you get to a point where sitting is hurting him since he could be playing the ENTIRE time because he doesn’t have to clear waivers to go to the Marlies.
Playing him in the AHL won’t HURT his development… and if he’s not playing in the NHL he might as well play there.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Exelby and Finger have been playing musical 3rd pairing all season, im pretty sure they are used to it.
If Exelby and Finger played as well as they do tonight, yes they deserve to stay in, but then I dont think exelby earned the roster spot in the previous game.
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
He's played fairly well recently
as has Finger… and both have been better than Schenn.
Hence the issue.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s a pretty good argument. I don’t know though. I coach a team (not hockey) and the impact of being around people who are much better than you are, who have the right habits etc, is pretty big. I have coached teams with no good players, and teams with some good players, and on the teams with some good players, the other players improve as a result of chasing those good players around. There are some people who will only improve if they are pushed hard. I’ve seen some talented kids do just enough to get by. If you raise the bar of what that is, they will raise their game, but otherwise, not.
by Leaf in Habland on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Perhaps
but one could also argue that those better players would be better irrespective of the talent around them. Take a player like Kessel for instance. He is obviously the most talented offensive player on the Leafs, and who was he learning from growing into his game in Boston? Who was their superior sniper?
If players are superior, and driven, they should theoretically rise to their own superior level of play and push past their peers. If there’s no internal drive to be the best, and learn from your coaches… then I kind of wonder about those abilities anyway.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I guess I really think there's a combination of all of the above at work
but the ONE thing everyone’s afraid of seems to be sending him down… and the only reason I can see to argue against that is Schenn’s percieved mental fragility and confidence problems… and I repeat… if that’s a problem, then is he going to be reliable in the future anyway?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Oh and I do coach hockey (or at least I did until this season)
and my best players were the guys who were playing the most in the most situations. The other guys might have been better and learned from playing with them… but I still think the number of situations you expose the kid to in a game, and the responsibility they have on the ice is a good teacher when they find SUCCESS doing so.
Playing a kid in a situation where they fail regularly is kind of debilitating. The reason I think Schenn should go down is so he can excel a bit and get his confidence back.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I’m being swayed to this side pretty quickly.
I’ll just ignore the newspapers when it happens.
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by Karina on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Glad to hear I can still convince people of stuff.
I do actually have a fair bit of experience teaching kids stuff… and it’s not as simplistic as the media pretend.
It’s also not like the same system works for every kid, but the idea that you keep forcing a kid into a situation they’re screwing up at and you won’t mess up their confidence is pretty obviously wrong.
Kids learn when they meet success as they try and challenge themselves. They won’t learn from mistakes if there’s no opportunity to correct them where they find out the right thing works. Failure after Failure is the problem, and it works as its own punishment.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
oh and playing "tougher" minutes
when you’re failing at it regularly… just indicates that you’re not really learning much at this point.
Think of it as teaching a kid to read… you don’t throw a university text book at the kid and argue that he’ll “learn more because it’s tougher” even if he only understands like 15% of what he’s reading.
He’d probably get more by reading a challenging book that’s reading SLIGHTLY above his level… not a lot above his level.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Though you have to admire Alfie’s loyalty to the Senators, you gotta think he’s regretting not giving himself an out clause out of the outhouse, especially after tonight’s apple turnover delivery boy, Jason Spezza, was in fine form…
by BesterThanYesterday on Dec 14, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions
Great Success
Leafs win and I passed my 90% final (I hope to God that last part is true)
by Belligerent Burkie on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions
Now to study for an 85% final tomorrow. fml
by Belligerent Burkie on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts While Watching the Hilights on NHL.com
Nice hit by Exelby on Cheechoo. Vesa played pretty well in the first 10 minutes. How on earth did Jason Blake score? Is every team from now on going to throw their AHL goalie at us? Nice, unspectacular glove save by Toskala around the 7 min mark of the 2nd. How much has Francois Allaire helped our goalies this year? Nice job Finger of putting Ruutu into the boards. That hit led to a nice scoring chance – do that more often. Quel Suprise! Leafs give the puck away near the crease and it goes in. That has got to of accounted for about 20% of the goals scored on us so far.
(as blogesalming would say): PHIL KESSSSSSSSEL! Nice cherry picking goal, I’ll take it either way.
Why do we even kill penalties? Jason Spezza was within 7 feet of the net and the defence decided to let him get closer with the puck and score. Can anybody play defence for an entire game? That’s what I want to know.
That was a nice bounce we got on Beauchemain’s shot from the point. Who got the goal?
Apparently Komisarek likes to erase people too. Does Kovalev’s contract come off the books now for the SNES after that hit?
That was a nice play by Phillips(?) to save Poni from making it 4-2.
Is it just the Hilights, or did Poni have a really good game? Almost got a goal, drove hard to the net to get another good chance. Great to see someone doing that consistently.
Wow, we got lucky on that last no-goal. Spezza got there about 0.1 seconds too late to touch the puck. That is a very luck break for us.
First time since the 06-07 season we’ve won 4 in a row on home ice. The former is vomit-inducing, the latter is great to see.
by Belligerent Burkie on Dec 14, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions
Competent backup; AHL starter. Don’t really see the difference.
by Belligerent Burkie on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
well it was either him or M.Brodeur
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 14, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
$900,000 in salary? =P
I’d imagine if AHL starters were good enough to be competent backups, they wouldn’t remain AHL starters for long =D
Plenty of NHL back-ups are on 2-way contracts because they aren’t much better than the AHL goalie. And many back-ups are there because the team wants to give more playing time to the younger guys in the AHL (Corey Crawford anyone?).
by Belligerent Burkie on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
cn we play the first 10 games over please?
I mean it. Bring him back.
by bringbackbower on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 AM EST reply actions
can we just wipe out the first 10 games please?
by Belligerent Burkie on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!1
Getting drunk with Sens fans is so much more fun when the Leafs are beating them.
PLAYOFFS!!!1
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