Maple Leafs 3 v. Coyotes 6: Not Good Enough To Coast
Chemmy Thought of the Night: The Leafs traded a 1st, 2nd and 4th for Toskala on June 22 2007. On Nov 17 2007 Bryzgalov was claimed off waivers by Phoenix. Since 2007 Toskala's save percentage has never been above .904, Bryzgalov's has never been below .906.
Since the lockout three things have been constants for the Maple Leafs:
- The goaltending has ranged from great to atrocious. Unfortunately, if you were looking for a split between the two it's probably been 10% great, 90% atrocious.
- Once the Leafs feel satisfied they fall apart. Toskala is one of the worst on this team for being pleased and thinking that excuses him from playing well. Tonight, for 52 minutes, we saw the entire team pull that trick.
- When there is any mention of "PLAYOFFS!!1" the Leafs' testicular fortitude disappears. There is a reason that they always go on crazy runs to end the season: there's no pressure.
The net result is that the team plays lackadaisically and completely out of sync. For about 52 minutes tonight that's what we saw out of the Leafs. Terrible goaltending was compounded by the rest of the team's October flashback.
The first five minutes of the game actually weren't half bad and the Leafs left the first only down 1-0 before the wheels came off in the second. Four goals came as a result of the Leafs' sudden decision to stop skating or play anything resembling hockey:
Ron Wilson: That's the frustrating part we couldn't stop the bleeding in the second period and they scored a couple of crappy goals.
To top things off, when the team looked to Vesa Toskala to make a save, more often than not, he failed the team. The first went shortside (ie the 'minor league' side) while another was a result of playing far too deep in the net. Ron Wilson wasn't at all pleased by Toskala's play:
Wilson: Every goalie in this league gets screened and you have to fight to see the puck it's as simple as that. The goalie should never make an excuse that he's screened on a play "I'm screened so I don't have to try anymore." It's not something that I like.
Reporter: (paraphrashing) What I meant was that five guys were often running around chasing the puck
Wilson: That happens. As a goaltender your job is to work hard to try to find the puck, period, if your defence is scrambling - "oh I'll make myself as small as possible" - you have to make yourself you gotta make yourself big and try to come up with the save. And When the goalie's struggling you have to hope that the defence bails you out too.
Of course, the Leafs were hardly helped by the four blind mice working the game. The problem with terrible performances is that every bad call that goes against you has a much greater impact. The first goal came off a Jim Vandermeer dive that drew two minutes on Jason Blake. The third goal, after the Leafs had drawn to within one, was a result of a blown offside call. In both cases, the Leafs had a chance to offset the errors if they had simply concentrated. Instead, the Leafs' league-worst (by a country mile) failed and the fire drill defending couldn't clear the puck.
However, one call that was out of their control came after Ian White tried to kick a puck out of danger but ended up directing it towards the Leafs' empty goal. Toskala reached back and snatched the puck just as it was about to cross the goalline. Now, the ref on the ice called it a goal and after viewing it from multiple angles the Video Goal Judge was apparently unable to overturn the call because it was inconclusive therefore he couldn't overrule the on-ice judge. However, nowhere in the rule does "incontrovertible evidence" get mentioned. In fact, it says that once the call goes up to Video Goal Judge his ruling is the only one that matters:
39.1 General Duties – The following are the general duties of the Video Goal Judge:
(i) He will review replays of disputed goals when requested to do so by the Referees.
(ii) He will review replays of disputed goals when he observes an incident that was undetected by on-ice officials.
(iii) After viewing the incident he will promptly convey his decision directly to the Referee at the penalty bench. When a play has been referred to the Video Goal Judge, his decision shall be final.
(iv) During the review he may consult with a member of the League’s Hockey Operations or Officiating department staff if latter is in attendance at the game (or via telephone).
(v) No goal may be awarded (or disallowed) as a result of video review once the puck has been dropped and play has resumed following the first stoppage of play after the potential goal.
On that basis it's hard to believe that he saw the puck actually go in. What it looks like is that the referee guessed that it must have gone in and the Video Goal Judge was not willing to overturn the goal. It would be nice for the NHL to release any high-def video it uses because on my TV, in slow motion, it might have gone over the line just like Stempniak's against Chicago.
Again, the main problem was that the Leafs' were terrible and it started on the back end:
Ron Wilson: It was a giveaway fest in the second period we couldn't find any loose pucks and we got pushed out of the way. Our defence just wasn't any good last night.
The interesting part of the post-game presser was that Wilson led the way in showing us a good way to deal with this game: move on.
Wilson: We weren't as sharp as we needed to be. Playing at a high level every night is not possible when you're playing 4 games a week. We'll put it behind us and move on. The 3rd period showed we weren't going to roll over
The bottom line is that the Leafs faced the very team they have been for the last while (but with better goaltending) and they weren't able to summon the desire. Whether that's because of the schedule, as Ron Wilson notes, or because they lack the forwards to fight through tight checking, I think that this definitely played a part, is up to the viewer but the Coyotes certainly did their part as James Mirtle highlights in his piece for the G&M.
Note: I embedded the entire presser because I think it's worthwhile viewing. These are available on the Maple Leafs' official website and part of the fun is watching the trepidation with which some questions are asked and the scorn with which he replies but overall, despite the media's complaints, I find Wilson is pretty forthcoming in these. He highlights his ideads on the team's shortcomings, identifies who didn't perform, and generally tosses some humour in.
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Defense looked totally lost in their own end last night. This was not the effort we have seen over the past 3 weeks.
Agreed, and it really didn’t help that when things started to go bad Wilson was mixing and matching defensive pairings. XLB and Beauchemin were on the ice together for a shift or two (Of which Beauchemin was trapped on the ice afterwards and had to play a shift with Finger).
WIth the D changing for a couple of straight shifts they didn’t look comfortable at all and that lead to what seemed like a 9 minute attack by the Yotes.
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Definitely
I didn’t want to transcribe Wilson’s entire presser but his closing point was that this was a crap game but they happen, sometimes they sneak up on you and all you can do is move on to the next game.
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sometimes they sneak up on you and all you can do is move on to the next game.
Yessir.
Think about it. The Sabres absolutely dominated the Caps, but looked like crap against the Sens last night. The Caps got whupped by Toronto, and then turned around and made Colorado look like Jerry’s Kids out there. Colorado had been on a serious roll before that game. You can say that about pretty much every team.
Nothing to fret over here; Leafs are 4 points out of the playoffs with a game in hand, and every team in the way has way more questions surrounding them than the Leafs do, if you leave out goaltending. And I think you can leave out goaltending, due to the impending return of J. Gustaffson.
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by AkiSchennberg on Dec 17, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
We forgive you.
leaf fan stuck in ottawa, a localized black hole that will suck everything in that area to oblivion.
not all of us
/mean face
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 17, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Says mr. spelling bee champion himself.. ;)
"If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
The 06-07 and 07-08 Leafs did this constantly. They’d go on a hot streak and pull to within two points of owning eighth and on that fateful night they’d shit the bed against anyone. If the Coyotes all died on ice the Leafs would have turned in a false lineup card and had to forfeit.
Really hoping we don’t go 0-3-0 this weekend. Hoping.
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I am putting all the sharp objects deep in the back of the drawers in my house this weekend for this very reason.
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Also
where did that speed burst from Stepniak come from? I don’t think I’ve ever seen him move that fast. If only he could finish one of those freaking breakaways.
or hit those empty nets
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 17, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Empty or not
He almost always shoots wide.
Take a low hard shot – Brysgalov was kicking out rebounds all night.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 17, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
The entire D-Corp was brutal last night, XLB and FInger especially. Hopefully its just a 1 off and they rebound. I’d have Schenn back in on friday and play monster 1 of the 2 games this weekend
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Brutal second period, sandwiched between two mediocre periods. Hopefully they can find a little more effort for the next few tough divisional rivals.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Dec 17, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions
On the plus side
surely Exelby’s performance netted him a trip to the press box? Finger was fairly atrocious as well. Komisarek didn’t look too bad to start with, but once the pairings got shuffled, everything seemed to fall apart. Not blaming the coaches for that though, as most of the d seemed to be taking the night off to begin with.
My favorite moment in last nights game was Wilson putting the checking line out for a powerplay. Those guys deserved the ice time, as they seemed to be the only line with their feet moving for the most part.
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by blurr1974 on Dec 17, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions
the checking line has been our best line far too many nights this season… lord love ‘em, but it’s not really a good thing.
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by Karina on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
i should add
although it was a bad game for the Leafs, I’m not taking anything away from Phoenix. They spanked us good last night. Dave Tippett should be in serious consideration for the Jack Adams if the Coyotes keep this up. That was easily one of the most impressive performances against the Leafs I’ve seen.
found it hard to get too upset about anything, because Phoenix was playing really good hockey.
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by blurr1974 on Dec 17, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
Bad night all around. Nobody gets out of this game with any glory, except maybe possibly the checking line as blurr mentioned.
Oh well, the next 3 games look really really tough but let’s at least hope the boys show up and give it all they got.
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1.The goaltending has ranged from great to atrocious. Unfortunately, if you were looking for a split between the too it’s probably been 10% great, 90% atrocious.
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 17, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
You've got NOTHING on U of T
we’ve got the all star record of the longest losing streak ever – 7 years long!
Wooo, go Blues!
Sorry
Can’t hear you, I have a Vanier Cup wool hat over my ears.
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Meh. Bad game. With the compressed schedule in general and in December in particular, every team is going to have some stinkers. This was one of them. The Leafs clobbered the Caps, who then went on to knock the not out of the Avs…happens to everyone.
I watched the final 10 minutes online, and liked what I saw out of the Leafs.
No reason to stress about this one. They’ll be better against Buffalo (?) in the next one.
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Re: Chemmy's thought
Chemmy Thought of the Night: The Leafs traded a 1st, 2nd and 4th for Toskala on June 22 2007. On Nov 17 2007 Bryzgalov was claimed off waivers by Phoenix. Since 2007 Toskala’s save percentage has never been above .904, Bryzgalov’s has never been below .906.
I don’t think it ultimately diminishes the point that Chemmy is making – that we overpaid for the goaltending “services” of Mr. Toskala – but I seem to recall that when Bryzgalov hit waivers in Anaheim, it was widely known he’d be a good goalie. I think Phoenix was low enough in the standings at the time to get a priority claim in on him. I seem to recall the Coyotes being lower than us in the standings at the time, meaning they would be able to claim Bryzgalov before us. Discussion on this page of the (gulp) HF Boards seems to confirm that notion, though I hesitate to rely on that as a source for anything important.
That still doesn’t explain why we couldn’t or wouldn’t get a trade worked out with Phoenix for something less than what we paid for Toskala, but nobody should be confused and think we blew it by missing him on waivers. We blew it in a different way.
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That still doesn’t explain why we couldn’t or wouldn’t get a trade worked out with Phoenix for something less than what we paid for Toskala
you mean Anaheim right?
and the leafs fucked that up in one simple way, they hired JFJ and had him calling those shots
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 17, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, my bad. I meant “trade worked out with Anaheim”. And yes, JFJ : still looks rather like that hiring was a mistake. If by “mistake” one means “colossal blunder of biblical proportions.”
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
Bryzgalov was already available when the Leafs traded for Toskala. Burke tried trading him at the 2007 draft…
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by blurr1974 on Dec 17, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s what I mean – it doesn’t undermine Chemmy’s ultimate point because it’s clear the Leafs could have had Bryz via trade for basically a bag of pucks. Still – and I’m not suggesting Chemmy is making this error, I don’t think he is – it’s best for us to correctly identify our mistakes. Our mistake wasn’t “missing Bryz on waivers”; it was “trading too much for Toskala instead of a bag of pucks for Bryz”
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
That was my point.
http://twitter.com/felixpotvin/status/6750685059
They didn’t. Still could have traded. RT @mlse Remember when Bryzgalov went on waivers? I’m pretty sure the Leafs had a better waiver claim.
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Exactly
I think that’s the point he’s making though. Instead of trading THREE PICKS! for Toskalol he could have gone to Brian Burke and gotten Bryz for a song.
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even if he had already spent the picks on vesa, he could have still traded for Bryz for next to nothing and traded toskala before his value flatlined
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 17, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
That still doesn’t explain why we couldn’t or wouldn’t get a trade worked out with Phoenix for something less than what we paid for Toskala, but nobody should be confused and think we blew it by missing him on waivers. We blew it in a different way.
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NOT Vesa's fault
I really take issue with the whole “Vesa burned us” angle I keep reading here. I’ve watched all 5 goals and only one of them in my mind did it look like he really failed on. Now, I’m not ignoring the past, and I don’t dispute that he’s been expensive per save. I’m not saying that it’s been OK up to this point. But last night was not all Vesa’s fault. It wasn’t even mostly his fault.
The first goal:
On the first goal he’s only partly to blame. Blame falls on him because he was in position and the puck shouldn’t have gotten by his pads. But it was also a good pass that shouldn’t have happened. How many times have we seen that kinda thing out of the penguins, where Sidney Crosby is camped out by the post and puts it in after getting a pass and people say the goaltender had no chance. Why is it no chance when Sidney does it but when someone else does it’s all Vesa’s fault?
The second goal:
Now this one just made me angry. Both because the play was bad and because everyone is against Vesa for it. He made a great stop and even controlled the rebound to a degree which was good considering the angle of the shot and that it was a one on one. After the puck floated out that’s where his D should have taken up the mantle. There were like 3 or 4 (can’t remember which but it was one) players around him and they couldn’t get that puck? They were closer than Prucha. But the offensive mindset was simpler and more effective than the defensive one. The D was concerned I guess with Vesa trying to get a call and maybe that’s what he was trying to do but they should have cleared it. We’ve seen it before where an offensive player outhustles a D in an awkward situation for a puck.
It was the same damn thing that lead Vesa to draw the penalty against Ottawa and dive on that puck way out because it just hung there while they did nothing. So he took no chances and dived on it. Same thing.
The third goal:
Now this one I think Vesa should have had. Even though it was offside and shouldn’t have counted Vesa wouldn’tve known that and wouldn’t have been concentrating on it anyway and it shouldn’t have gone five-hole.
The fourth goal:
Tipped in by his own D.
The fifth goal:
Again by his own D.
And I don’t agree with anyone saying that the team didn’t work last night. They did work. They were just out-skated and out-sized by Phoenix. The two problems to this game were weak offense and bad defense. The former, as already said, shut down by their D, the latter because of poor mistakes and bad hustle by our D. But they didn’t play lazily.
And I don’t agree with Ron Wilson saying that Vesa was back in net. He was far out alot that game. On that third goal he was in deep because they’re always in deep on the side. It was also a scamble for the puck – he’s not gonna suddenly come out and change position from a sharp-angle style positioning because there’s no one else on the play. His eyes are on the puck that’s currently loose with an offensive guy near it.
Consider a few things:
- 2 of our goals were on breakaways and shots from the point
- none of theirs were (and they had a few breakaways and 2 on 1 chances) (not counting the tipped in fourth goal)
- our offense could generate almost nothing in their end but their offense almost did what they liked in our end and in the neutral zone
- bryzgalov was beaten on the Kessel goal almost the exact same way Vesa was on the third goal
- the type of shots we were putting on net were not equal to the type of shots (by bad chances or otherwise) they were putting on ours.
So tallying it up without all the bullshit I see the goals against Vesa as this:
First goal – half blame: bad pass.
Second goal – half blame: bad D.
Third goal – all blame even though it shouldn’t have counted
Fourth goal – no blame on a puck from the point that changes directions 2 feet in front of you
Fifth goal – no blame on something put in by his own man that he made enough of an effort and save on to put in doubt anyway
And on that shitty-ass fifth: I gotta that just pisses you off. While I think the puck might have crossed (and I’m not sure myself) you don’t award game-deciding points on maybes. If the God judge with all his replays and video crap can’t decide if it’s a goal or not you don’t just put it back to the ruling of the dude who decision was in doubt in the first place. Innocent until proven guilty: no goal. But when offsides aren’t counted when calling goals who’s gonna care about a little thing like not seeing the puck cross the line amirite ppl?
So anyways after all of that I reckon the goals stack up this way: 1,1,0,1,0. Tie game, where was our OT?
And Vesa’s goals stack this way: .5,.5,1,0,0. 2 goals. gg Vesa. go leafs.
Anyway. Let’s make it that our loss was now instead of on the weekend. Let’s offset this little loss to the cheater coyotes staying in the league and cheating and making Gretz look bad and booooooooo by winning our games at Buffalo and Boston.
by The_Truculenster on Dec 17, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions
No one is putting it all on Vesa but that first goal was terrible. There is no excuse for getting beat short-side and that kind of goal, where it goes through Vesa, is his calling card. Regardless of the pass getting to Prucha Vesa was already there and waiting.
The fourth goal is Vesa’s fault for the very reason that Ron Wilson notes: goalies can’t hide on their goalline and play small. If Toskala is at the top of the crease and standing up the puck likely hits him.
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