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1984-85 Team - John Anderson

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By pure happenstance, today's '84-85 Leaf is John Anderson, coach of tonight's opposition.  Sometimes it just works out.

John (and draft-mate Trevor Johansen) is often cited as Exhibit A in the "look who the Leafs took instead of (insert superstar name here" department.  This is severely unfair, since it's not so much that John was a poor pick as it was that Mike Bossy was a spectacular pick.  It's also interesting that every other team that chose someone other than Mike Bossy gets a pass on this and it's only an indictment of the Leafs but I digress.

John was an outstanding junior and a very good NHLer.  A winger with good size and hands, he was a big scorer every year he played.  He was a Memorial Cup All-Star as a sophmore player, the Ontario league scoring leader and first-team all-star in his draft year, and he tore apart the World Juniors with 10 goals and 5 assists in 7 games.  Despite this, he was only rated the #8 prospect out of Ontario (Bossy was #3 from the Q).  Still, he was a very solid pick at #11.

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The problem, I guess, is that it took him a couple of years to get out of the gate while Bossy was scoring a mile a minute right from the start.  John also never quite had Brian Trottier feeding him the puck.

One he did get going, though, he was a very solid contributor.  By the mid-80's he was on the left side of the Leafs' number one line (with vaive and Derlago), could score 30+ goals with regularity and had 80 points in 1982-83.

Sort of like now, the Leafs' top-line players were routinely criticized in the papers (by Ballard, more often than not).  This was perhaps never moreso than in '84-85, when the losing hit its peak.  That season, John had his fourth-straight 30-goal campaign, but would be sent in late summer to the Nordiques for Brad Maxwell.  (Derlago would only last one more game before being dispatched as well.)

John didn't put up a ton of points in Quebec in the part season he was there, but took off in Hartford before injuries began to slow him down.

It's funny how it works out and just goes to show how fine the lines can be between players.  In 1977, you had two players go in the mid-to later parts of the first round.  They're both junior all-stars, but neither is rated as the top prospect out of his league.  One goes on to become a very solid B-list winger with an 800-game career, the other is perhaps the best sniper of his generation.

It's a game of inches.

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John's stats:

 1972-73  Markham Waxers  OHA-B
 1973-74  Toronto Marlboros  OHA-Jr.  38   22   22   44   6 
 1974-75  Toronto Marlboros  OMJHL  70   49   64   113   31   22   16   14   30   14 
 1974-75  Toronto Marlboros  M-Cup  4   4   6   10   2 
 1975-76  Toronto Marlboros  OMJHL  39   26   25   51   19   10   7   4   11   7 
 1976-77  Toronto Marlboros  OMJHL  64   57   62   119   42   6   3   5   8   0 
 1976-77  Canada  WJC-A  7   10   5   15   6 
 1977-78  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  17   1   2   3   2   +1   2   0   0   0   0 
 1977-78  Dallas Black Hawks  CHL  55   22   23   45   6   13   11   8   19   2 
 1978-79  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  71   15   11   26   10   +2   6   0   2   2   0 
 1979-80  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  74   25   28   53   22   +5   3   1   1   2   0 
 1980-81  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  75   17   26   43   31   -11   2   0   0   0   0 
 1981-82  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  69   31   26   57   30   +8 
 1982-83  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  80   31   49   80   24   -6   4   2   4   6   0 
 1982-83  Canada  WEC-A  6   2   2   4   6 
 1983-84  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  73   37   31   68   22   -12 
 1984-85  Toronto Maple Leafs  NHL  75   32   31   63   27   -20 
 1984-85  Canada  WEC-A  9   5   2   7   18 
 1985-86  Quebec Nordiques  NHL  65   21   28   49   26   -1 
 1985-86  Hartford Whalers  NHL  14   8   17   25   2   +18   10   5   8   13   0 
 1986-87  Hartford Whalers  NHL  76   31   44   75   19   +11   6   1   2   3   0 
 1987-88  Hartford Whalers  NHL  63   17   32   49   20   -5 
 1988-89  Hartford Whalers  NHL  62   16   24   40   28   +15   4   0   1   1   2 
 1989-90  Binghamton Whalers  AHL  3   1   1   2   0 
 1989-90  HC Milano Saima  Italy  9   7   9   16   18 
 1990-91  Fort Wayne Komets  IHL  63   40   43   83   24   1   3   0   3   0 
 1991-92  New Haven Nighthawks  AHL  68   41   54   95   24   4   0   4   4   0 
 1992-93  San Diego Gulls  IHL  65   34   46   80   18   11   5   6   11   4 
 1993-94  San Diego Gulls  IHL  72   24   24   48   32   4   1   1   2   8 
 1994-1995  San Diego Gulls  IHL
 1995-1996  Winston-Salem Mammoths  SHL
 1996-1997  Quad City Mallards  ColHL
 1997-2000  Chicago Wolves  IHL
 Leaf Totals  534   189   204   393   168   -33   17   3   7   10   0 
 NHL Totals  814   282   349   631   263   5   37   9   18   27   2 


Memorial Cup Tournament All-Star Team (1975)
OMJHL First All-Star Team (1977)
CHL Second All-Star Team (1978)
Max McNab Trophy (Playoff MVP - CHL) (1978)
AHL First All-Star Team (1992)
Fred T. Hunt Memorial Award (Sportsmanship - AHL) (1992)
Les Cunningham Award (MVP - AHL) (1992)    

- Traded to Quebec by Toronto for Brad Maxwell, August 21, 1985.
- Traded to Hartford by Quebec for Risto Siltanen, March 8, 1986.


the HHOF take on John:

"At 16, he was playing with the Toronto Marlies, and two years later he was the team captain. But on the day he turned 18, he became part of the controversy that was the standard players contract for the OHA.

With the arrival of the WHA in 1972 as a new professional league, teenagers could now sign a contract at age 18, though the NHL didn't draft players until 20. Anderson, like teammate John Tonelli the previous week in March 1975, retired from the OHA rather than risk continuing his amateur career under the OHA's contract which bound a player to that amateur team. However, Anderson didn't receive an offer from the WHA immediately and returned to the Marlies and lead them to the Memorial Cup.

Drafted 11th overall by his dream team Leafs, he matured slowly. But by his third year he was a star of the new Kid Line featuring Laurie Boschman and Rocky Saganiuk, though the next year, 1980-81, he called them the Skid Line for their poor season. Later in his Leaf career he played with Bill Derlago and Rick Vaive, again the team's top line, but after four consecutive 30-goal seasons he felt it was time to move on.

A trade sent him to Quebec and another to Hartford, and he spent the last five years of his playing life in the minors, the last two as player/assistant coach for the San Diego Gulls. In 1995, he became head coach of Winston-Salem in the Southern Hockey League, and a year later he coached the Quad City Mallards of the Colonial League to a championship. After one season in Quad City, Anderson became the head coach of the Chicago Wolves in 1997-98 and went on to jlead the Wolves to the Turner Cup title and two years later the franchises first Calder Cup."

 

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I’m happy for guys like John Anderson, who spent the time in the AHL and the minors to hone his coaching craft. He looked like he was never going to be granted a chance at the NHL, but Atlanta gave him a shot and the rest they say is history.

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by bkblades on Dec 7, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

John Anderson story

Thanks for the thoughtful piece on Anderson. Excellent point that the Bossy example is used as a Leaf management “mistake”, but who would have forecast what lie ahead for Bossy? No other team did, either- except the Isles. Anderson did indeed have a nice career, albeit in a rather down time for the Leafs. Not a lot of folks would have pegged him as a future coach, proving again it’s hard to project these things. Really good piece. Thanks. Michael Langlois, Vintage Leaf

by Vintage Leaf on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

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