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Ethics From The Barrel Of A Gun

Does anyone else get the creeping sense that the events of yesterday are going to be a whole lot more exciting than deadline day? The wires haven't exactly been singing with tales of trade piracy and wholesale dupery. However! All we need do is saunter over to our favourite 'free social messaging utility' and get a line straight into the nerve centre! What? Really....? But why would someone do that?

Well that's just cheapening the whole exercise, frankly. Shame on all of you.

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by Archimedies on Feb 24, 2009 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Pink jerseys are great… Finland should use them so they would at least look cute when they lose

I’m absolutely shocked that Toskala wasn’t on the untouchable list…

Как же так может быть?

by sleza on Feb 24, 2009 7:48 AM EST reply actions  

WHERE’S YOUR BEAN-POT?

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

bkblades

Sent me this, http://www.tosports.ca/?p=3534 and I thought it was hilarious.

Making stuff up since real Leafs news is far too depressing

by loser domi on Feb 24, 2009 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone not joining the Boston University bandwagon will be shot on sight.

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t do bandwagons

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you enjoy everything that’s good in the world?

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

and some of the bad things too

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Well then BU it is.

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

so BU is one of the bad things i like?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a theory...

No publicity is bad publicity. The Leafs are specifically trying to encourage the next generation (read: tech-savy) fan base to grow at the grass-roots level. I don’t doubt that people at MLSE are paid to browse newspapers, magazines, and even yes, the internet, and even, holy cow, sites just like this one, to keep tabs on all the fan perception and reaction.

“Burke” ‘s twitter page is NOT insulting to Burke, or even to MLSE (very much so far, nudge, nudge), and is in fact hilarious and brilliant. Truth is, it actually casts Burke in a very positive light, and has the right Spirit of Unapologetic Leaf Passion. The real Burke, Ron Wilson, and Dave Nonis, seem like intelligent men who all have a sharp sense of humour. They’ve probably been following it for a couple of weeks and they probably really like it. At any rate, I can’t imagine they think it can do any harm. (If they did, wouldn’t they ask Shoalts NOT to write abouit it in a National paper?)

On the other hand, they can’t just go and tell us we should all be reading “Brian Burke” ‘s fake twitter page. That would make them look ridiculous and unproffessional. So Shoaltzie either plays the patzee or does them a good turn for future considerations and sends up a mock protestation. I re-read his article again this morning, and I just can’t believe, he, or Burke himself, is that daft.

Where Ek fits into all of this is that he’s just so dumb, he doesn’t realize when he’s clearly being manipulated. That’s why the NHL likes him and is making him rich.

Just my theory. Anyways, congratulations DGB. A MONSTER ovation.

by general borschevsky on Feb 24, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

“A MONSTER ovation”

I think I just figured out who is behind the Pierre Maguire twitter.

by somny on Feb 24, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

If that’s not actually Pierre McGuire whoever writes that twitter feed should be beaten with a sack of doorknobs for being so unfunny.

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Horribly unfunny. Not a single “MONSTER!” in those posts. They’re actually…informative.

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by PPP on Feb 24, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I play hockey with a sports writer and an editor at the Sun and a guy from the Star sports section. None of them read or are even aware of a single sports blog and none of them twitter or use facebook. I work with several public affairs/PR departments around Toronto and all of them voraciously keep an eye on what social media sites are saying about their brands.

Look at who has real blogs and twitter accounts at the Globe. Matthew Ingram twitters so much I can’t believe he sleeps or has time for his day job. There are about 30+ personal blogs and counting at the Globe, yet the sports department has stuck with a standard newspaper approach to blogging: filling 150 to 500 word holes that don’t have a formal home in the print edition of the paper.

On the other side of this equation, the Leafs, Oilers and Rangers were the only teams that voted against the NHL building uniform team web-sites (the Rangers sued the league over the decision). And the Oilers were at the heart of that storm when someone live blogged from the press box.

The Oilers are sharks when it comes to their brand. They had a Calgary radio station take down a parody song (claiming IP rights) and then there was the whole Alan Watt v. Blogger from late last year. Watt came out and said that he wants Oilers.com to be the site that people come to for any and all information about the Oilers.

For most organizations, generating coverage/awareness is a key part of generating corporate revenue: increased sales, sales leads, raised profile, brand enhancement, etc.

This isn’t the case for pro sports teams. In fact too much external coverage represents potential lost revenue as eyeballs that go elsewhere for information deprive the teams of click-throughs and ad dollars; live-blogging and grey-market on-line streaming reduces audience numbers for TV and PPV. Declining consumption of traditional media means potentially less rink-side advertising from the media and fewer paid cross-promotions in the Sun.

MLSE/the Leafs knew full well the twitter account was fake, but ignoring it meant complicit acceptance and the loss of a possible avenue for MLSE to communicate, in a brand enhancing way, with their fans (there is a NHL_Leafs Twitter feed that provides in game updates). I would assume that the Leafs, like Alan Watt and the Oilers, would prefer their web-sites, daily insider emails (now with great video clips) and their twitter feeds be the primary source of information to fans, not alternative sites like this fine one.

I think if you connect these dots, you can see why Shoalts wrote the article that he did…he’s not an early adaptor of technology, it’s an easy 200 word piece he can put out on his “blog”, it sends the message that the Leafs will protect their brand, and it makes Shoalts – not the Leafs – look like the idiot/messenger who should be shot.

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by mf37 on Feb 24, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent take. Thanks for the counter point of view. That’s what I was looking for.

by general borschevsky on Feb 24, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post, mf37.

A few things to add: Establishment journalism guys have every reason to resist what’s happening with blogs and social media. Journalism, and especially sports journalism, in one of those jobs where the supply of people who want do it is much higher than the available jobs. So there’s a very long process of thinning the herd that goes on.

You have four years of journalism school, which is often hard to get into and harder to stay in. Along the way you build a resume by working internships, usually unpaid. At the end, if you graduate with enough of a portfolio and a few connections, you might get a job… somewhere. It won’t be where you want to be, but if there’s a paper in Thunder Bay that will hire you then you go. You make very little money, and you probably don’t get to cover the type of stories you want. It’s really hard work. And over the years — decades, sometimes — you work your way up to the top of the ladder.

A guy like Damien Cox or Howard Berger or Dave Shoalts, whatever else you think of them, have probably paid a ton of dues to get where they are.

And then along comes blogs, and suddenly you have these random goofs on the internet who get to skip all of that and just write about whatever they want. And people are reading their stuff and liking it. The whole supply and demand curve is thrown off completely. And every now and then, some of the bloggers even build up a bigger audience than the old school guys have.

Putting aside whether the writing is good or bad or indifferent, this is all tremendously threatening to the old guard media. It’s really no surprise that they resist it, ignore it, and even pretend not to understand it. Some of these guys spent decades paying dues only to see a new generation getting waved in for free. They’re not going to give up their turf without a fight, even if everyone knows they have no chance of winning.

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by Down Goes Brown on Feb 24, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Goofs

I think that’s probably the nicest thing that they call us. If they even knew we existed.

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by PPP on Feb 24, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Good counterpoint DGB

Sometimes we forget what it looks like from the other side. Makes you wonder how long thought that established writers and journalists will continue to resist the way the digital age is evolving, I mean even the recording industry is still fighting tooth-and-nail against online-music-purchasing to this very day.

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by Winkle on Feb 24, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that’s the thing. Just like the music industry, it’s a losing battle. Some old guard guys have figured that out and are getting involved in the web so that they’ll still have a job in a few years. Others have decided to go down fighting.

It’s pretty obvious which side is going to win in the long run. That doesn’t make it any easier to see something you’re convinced you’ve earned get taken away from you.

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by Down Goes Brown on Feb 24, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Gilroy

It’s a good name. Sounds Leafish.

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by 1967ers on Feb 24, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

The Spin by Damien Cox

is “taking a break” until March 2nd.

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by eyebleaf on Feb 24, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

I meant to add:

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by eyebleaf on Feb 24, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

makes sense...

not like there’s going to be much to report over the next few days.

/sarcasm

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by blurr1974 on Feb 24, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

He's on vacation

According to the fine folks of Fan590

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by Winkle on Feb 24, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn son. I gave you one college hockey link.

You've had enough word nourishment for one day.

by Mattblack on Feb 24, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

MORE

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

FINE.

You've had enough word nourishment for one day.

by Mattblack on Feb 24, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Good news everyone, we’ll be having another contest to hire an FTB writer for the site!

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by Chemmy on Feb 24, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll do it!

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by Archimedies on Feb 24, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You already are!

You've had enough word nourishment for one day.

by Mattblack on Feb 24, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t take this away from me, it’s all I have left :(

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by Mattblack on Feb 24, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Gilroy

Has promised his parents to only wear #97? Not a Burke player. “Wear 22 or GTFO, son!”

by Godd Till on Feb 24, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

Carlo speaks from St. Louis

It’s actually a reasonable story, but in the spirit of out-of-context Internet pot-stirring, I’ll just tease this quote:

“I’m going to be honest with you, I don’t know why I was being treated the way I was being treated in Toronto,” Colaiacovo said. “I don’t have any definite answers why those things were said about me.”

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by Dominik on Feb 24, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Nice Link

I am not sure that Carlo should be so surprised. He was highly touted (rightly, he was playing 30 minutes a game for the Erie Otters in addition to everything else) but never got into the kind of shape that was needed.

Not to mention that he’s not called the glass man for nothing. I can’t remember a more fragile player other than Antro and even he pulled it together at some point.

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by PPP on Feb 24, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

although

VanRy is no pace with Carlo injury wise, but its his first year, ill give him a mulligan

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

that was a terrible trade.

Carlo’s ripping it. But that was expected as soon as he got dealt.

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by eyebleaf on Feb 24, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

you talking the VanRy trade or the Suckniak trade?

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Suckniak.

We got Stempniaked.

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by eyebleaf on Feb 24, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I just hope he returns to form next year, cause there is no way in hell we can move him this year

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

more cap relief in 2010…you know, when we get RICK NASH

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by eyebleaf on Feb 24, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ll see if it’s sustainable or if Carlo can do it when the Blues are good.

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by PPP on Feb 24, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Blues be good again? That’s unpossible!

by LeafFanInVan on Feb 24, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

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