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I don’t think Nik’s play has merited that discussion to this point

Um…

Look, I’m all for straight talk and all that, but he does know that other GMs can see these quotes, right?

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by Down Goes Brown on Feb 9, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Give ya a bag of pucks for him…

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by Travis Hair on Feb 9, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

they aren’t those fuck-ugly glowing ones from the 90s, are they?

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by Kriv on Feb 9, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno...

THose sold for a mint on eBay. Might be better to have those.

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by Travis Hair on Feb 9, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

but

they burn my retinas, more so than watching Antro skate

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by Kriv on Feb 9, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

But you could see the puck through the boards! And it turned red if traveling faster than 65mph!

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by Travis Hair on Feb 10, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

OH GOD NO!!!

Ok ok…let’s get to bargaining…I think Burke is telling Antropov to prove to him that he wants to be in Toronto through his play rather than just words and actions like getting his citizenship and actually living in Toronto.

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by PPP on Feb 9, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

at least you don’t need to worry about him being traded now!

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

dammit

now we won’t get anything good for him!!!!!!!111

by Karina on Feb 9, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is the only possible explanation for his comment

by Polecon on Feb 9, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I kinda like the fact that Burke isnt mincing words, I just kinda wish he did this in private

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I tend to agree. To me this suggests, counter-intuitively, that he will be resigned, perhaps in the $2.8-3M range- recognizing his lack of serious injury, but not over estimating his value- rather than dealt. What is the realistic return for him anyway, a 3rd and a prospect? Might as well keep him for that.

by Polecon on Feb 9, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Burke is trying to shame into him re-signing a lower deal than he’d get on the free market.
Maybe Shame him out of standing pat on an NTC?
that way Burke can move him easy if he wants, or keep him around at lesser cost.

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Since the rebuild as announced is not a one-year plan, why empty the cupboards this year? Antro and Poni are useful and fairly cheap top 6 forwards. As long as their contract demands stay reasonable, there should be no incentive to make a deal. Unless of course someone comes in with one of those crazy deadline offers.

by Polecon on Feb 9, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, im fairly convinced Burke wont trade em off unless he can get what he wants from them. I just hope Anro doesnt walk for nothing but cap space

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

I’m thinking Burke could be working to eliminate the worry of any interested party that he’s going to trade Antropov and re-sign him in the off-season. He could be telling the truth and setting the record straight in that regard… or he could be trying to pull the wool over the eyes of other GMs.

by AlecB on Feb 9, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe him and Cliff are gonna play good cop bad cop with antro

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 9, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

…. sorry I didnt get a post up today. I’m switching providers from cogeco to starchoice as it turns out.

by AlecB on Feb 9, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's okay

But now you REALLY have to bring it next week ;)

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by PPP on Feb 9, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

maybe I should have read the comments before posting…

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by Kriv on Feb 9, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

To me this just seem like Burke is try to get rid the general belief around the league that if Antro is traded at the deadline he’ll just come back to TO this summer. I don’t think it is anything more than a fake assurance to interested teams to try and increases Antropov’s value. But hey I could be wrong… but I don’t think I am

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by Kriv on Feb 9, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

^noob, read the thread before you post

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by Kriv on Feb 9, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Awww Marge, why’d you gotta go and tell it like it is!

by lordosis on Feb 9, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

because were Leaf fans and getting kicked in the balls is in our charter

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by Kriv on Feb 9, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This is probably some kind of master plan by Burke that us mere mortals are unable to comprehend at this time. The guy does not go on a hockey show and shoot his mouth off and potentially screw the team in some way, he just is too cagey for that. Or so I hope..

by LeafFanInVan on Feb 10, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah

He’s not a nutjob…well, not a dumb one.

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by PPP on Feb 10, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Burke's a man of his word

Seriously, this isn’t backroom sabotage. We’re talking about a guy who called up Staffan Kronwall knowing full well he’d be picked off on waivers because he “promised him and his agent” that he’d be called up this season. The guy who let Scott Niedermayer and Teemu Selanne completely fuck over the Ducks last year out of respect for the decisions they had to make. Burke is not a man who says things just to fuck with people.

Honestly, any NHL pro scout can see that Antro is slow as a bear out there, is on pace for anther 50 point season, and is streaky as adult diapers. We needed him to prove that he’d broken out and to take command of our offense, and instead he’s often been relegated to the background and is on pace for a below par level of points for a guy who’s had nothing but first line minutes and top powerplay time.

I’m wondering at Burke too at this point, obviously he’s trying to light a fire under Nik, but the guy clearly has the skills to be a Franzen/Holmstrom type player. So far he just hasn’t been consistent and he still shies away from using his shot and size the way he should.

by koopa kid on Feb 10, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

maybe

he knows how much Nik wants to stay in Toronto, and he’s saying this because it’s true – unless, of course, he picks up his play. Could be a move to motivate Nik to play better, and see if he can raise his game.

by Karina on Feb 10, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m totally swiping that “streaky as adult diapers” line. Gold!

But yeah, I could see how Burke thinks Antro is a worthy salvage candidate. Antro has the physical gifts there and should be much more dominant than he is. Could motivate him into really giving it his all, or if not ship him outta town. Perhaps Burke is giving Antro the option of elevating his game and sticking around like he wants to, or else he’ll be dumped as a rental player.

I don’t think Burke saying that he won’t be re-signed will diminish his trade value all that much if it’s a contender team with good depth and can use Antro for a playoff run. It isn’t like the scouts from other teams weren’t paying attention to Antro’s play, they know he’s a bit of an underperformer.

by LeafFanInVan on Feb 10, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This is Burke's way...

of telling the fans to say farewell to the familiar.

I for one, like it.

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by blurr1974 on Feb 10, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Could be

Burke’s way of lighting a fire under Antro’s ass

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by Winkle on Feb 10, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

or it could be that the whole thing is meaningless fodder for water cooler conversations across Toronto

by Polecon on Feb 10, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I could see that. I wouldnt be surprised if Burke walked up to UncaCliff before the interview and said “Hey Cliff, watch this shit, the media is gonna loose their minds”

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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 10, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait

This probably just means that Antro is going to be traded. If Burke extended Antro now, trading him at the deadline would mean he’d be part of that team for good.

Not extending Antropov means the Leafs can rent him out.

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by Chemmy on Feb 10, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

PPP

is gonna ban me for this but I am not a fan of Antro coming back

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by Winkle on Feb 10, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Ban?

You should worry more about me killing you.

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by PPP on Feb 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that you mention it

It does concern me… since you know the company I work for and the city the office is located in… which you’re very close to… and you have me on FB so you know my name…

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by Winkle on Feb 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

all he needs is a place to hide your body

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