Brian Burke's Draft Day Plan...
Two words, sounds like "Sean Pavares"
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
he will be a saint in the church of Wendel
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I say go for it.
but if you trade Schenn I will be very mad at you Mr Burke
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
his comment seemed to indicate that Schenn was as close to untouchable as you can get on the Leafs….
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Very confident
That Schenn is outta the picture
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very confident
That Burke will laugh until his binoculars break if someone dared ask for him
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but say the lighteining come at him and say “Stamkos and our first rounder for Schenn and Stajan” he’d probably jump on it
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
if Tampa drafts first overall...
i’d take it. shoot, i’d throw in Kabby…
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d offer Tampa Kabby, our first rounder and Frogren to start
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Rrrraaarrrrgggghh!
What?! No, not the Viking!
by general borschevsky on Apr 14, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
it pains me so, but Tavares is worth it
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd give up
Kabby
Stajan
Our 1st round pick this year
A 2nd round pick next year
For the 1st overall pick. If that’s Tampa, and we tried to get Stamkos as part of the deal, I’d include Tlusty and Poni.
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
id give away Carolinas 2nd rounder this year instead of ours next year, but yah, that sounds good
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
While I agree that Burke might take that. I’m more along the idea that the Lightning wouldn’t, especially if they end up with a shot at Tavares after tonight.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but if I was Burke Id say how about Kabby, White, Straleman AND Hollweg instead of Schenn?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he’s said that before
but then he has also said that EVERYONE has their price
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Burke
Saz a lotta things
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and he means every. single. one of them
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Some great quotes...
Moving on up?
“We are going to talk to everyone between us and the first pick to see what the landscape is.”
And for eyebleaf?
“The goal for next year is to make the playoffs, that should be the goal of every GM in the league,” Burke said. “If it’s not the goal, they should get out of the god-damned business”.
God-damnit, Brian Burke is god-damned awesome. Fuck Yeah!
by general borschevsky on Apr 14, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
he will lead us to the promised land
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
BRIAN BURKE!
FUCK YEAH!
TRADING UP TO GET SUPERSTARS!
BRIAN BURKE!
FUCK YEAH!
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that happen sometime in november 1967 when it mattered
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
you know whats awesome?
Having a GM that isnt affraid of his own shadow, thats awesome
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
I think it’s awesome that we finally have a GM with autonomy from the stupid board…
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he severed those ties with his death glare
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the autonomy thing was all just crap the media made up. I really don’t think JFJ needed to interfered with at all to be a bad GM. I suppose that there was always infighting on the board over Ferguson and that probably left him in a bit of a tough position but aside from drafting he was bad all on his own.
I would pay a lot of money to see Peddie try and interfere with Burke though.
by Mirinov's Nose on Apr 14, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
JFJ was probably more likely to take things from the board to heart, more apt to listen to them than his hockey people
Burke probably just does his version of the smile and nod, IE the death glare followed by the “get the fuck out of my office”
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
thats because it is scared of him and is hiding somewhere in Vancouver
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
I doubt Snow would do it… I’m hoping Tampa lands the #1 overall ’cause if they want Tavares, I could see them giving up Lecavalier…
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
damn cookies they will. But likely the Habs will pony up half the team to get him.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and they would be crippled for years
either way, we win
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be like order is restored to the known universe
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a chance. It’s just going to be very expensive and it’ll have to be the right team to do it.
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and...
after tonight Burke, Nonis, Fletcher and Nieuwendyk will each be calling the GMs of the top 5 to find out what their price is…
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see it. Us moving up, sure I can see that. Moving up to #1? Impossible. In this economic climate, to add a superstar who will sell tickets on a rookie contract?
its tampa, they couldnt sell out if Gretzky and Lemieux came back and played their prime hockey for the lightening next year
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tampa did fine at the gate when they had a good team. Zeisberger is speculating we could swap 1sts with them if we tool Malone’s contract, but I don’t see that happening either, esp if they have the #1.
but...
as you said, in this economic climate, salary relief may be a more immediate concern than gate receipts. Especially if we’re getting creditors involved, they’ll want to see less red ink, rather than a forecasted increase in black ink, that may or may not happen.
still, it’s a huge long shot…
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
exciting time to be a Leaf fan for sure, I cant remember the last time there was so much positive speculation
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Especially since this is a Lightning team that already made one trade with the Leafs in order to qualify for revenue sharing and has the past owners possibly repossessing the team from Koules and Barrie.
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Isn’t it about time for us to benefit for some teams gigantic mistake, instead of being the ones making it? It’s been 15 years!
Dammit, now you guys have me getting all hopeful again.
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT
getting Tavares is worth delaying this teams playoff chances a year or two while current prospects (that arnt traded away) take time to develope.
not only would the Leafs have a shot at Hall next year but the word dynasty might start to creep up
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Dynasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Too soon?
by general borschevsky on Apr 14, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Knowing Burke
He’ll prolly get us John Tavares, Brayden Schenn, and Evander Kane, all by trading Ryan Hollweg and a Star Wars replica lightsaber to three different teams at once.
then Burke will kill him in his sleep by opening his coffin in the mid day sun
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Evander Kane is a prick. I don’t like his attitude when playing. I find it problematic.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Apr 14, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that's
because he’s playing against your team…
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he is probably rather lucky Cowen isnt playing against him tho
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure a lot of players are rather lucky Cowen isn’t playing against him, but Kane regardless still projects to be a physical, in your face sniper. Not unlike Brayden Schenn, but perhaps less ornery, but with more offensive potential.
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No I have always found Kane to be a jerkface prior to playing the Chiefs.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Apr 14, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
edit - rotflmao @ Jared's comment! too funny...
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from the Star article
Burke said it might not require moving up to No. 1 in the draft.
“That’s assuming the team with the first pick wants the same guy you want. If they don’t want the same guy, you want, you don’t have to go after the first pick,” said Burke.
“When I’ve done this before, every team got the guy they wanted. I’m not confident that everyone has John Tavares No. 1.”
I wonder if he has some inside knowledge of teams targeting Hedman…
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
there’s got to be a few who see a huge need on their blue line.
like, the Islanders…
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’ve seen it mentioned that the Isles might want Hedman.
In that case it gets trickier because then you have to get the 2nd pick and then trade it to the Isles for the first.
It’ll obviously be hard work but at least he’s trying.
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I thought the rumor was that the Islanders were the ones who called Burke about Schenn’s availability…
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
why
would you have to trade it to the Isles? If they’re selecting Hedman, and they’re 1st, then 2nd is where you want to be…
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So that they don’t trade it to another team that wants Tavares.
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good thing Brian Burke is much better at this GM thing than all of us
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno, my record on nhl 09 begs to differ…
by tugboats and arson on Apr 14, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but you dont have Tavares yet either
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the Lightning have said they were taking Hedman with the first pick if they got it.
by Zachary Zielonka on Apr 14, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I definitely think taking Hedman makes a lot more sense than taking Tavares for TB. They already have Stamkos and Vinnie who are top tier forwards. They really need defense.
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oooh
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
hope Lives!
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s nothing there from Tampa Bay’s management.
It definitely makes more sense for them to go with Hedman.
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same with the Islanders, but it would make sense for them to take anything, they need everything
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly
i have to wait for nhl ’10.
by tugboats and arson on Apr 14, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
WE’RE GETTING RON JAVAREZ?
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que?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Rhymes with Sean Pavares
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bwah?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I have the worst fucking headache you have no idea.
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i knew a kid named john tabares.
and tavares is amazing and all, but i reeeeeeeally want brayden schenn. i’m hoping burkie will work his magic. i will destroy commissioner gnome if he tries to pry them from my grabby hands.
by tugboats and arson on Apr 14, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions
I went to high school with John Tavares
The other Tavares – the uncle who plays pro lacrosse.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
OK, Let's Breathe.
We’re not going to get John Tavares, and that’s alright. He is not the next Lemieux or Yzerman, and probably not even the next Andreychuk. There are one of these players every year, that get hyped into the stratosphere, and they just don’t deserve it. I’ll be very happy with a Steve Duchene or Pocket Schenn, maybe even Nazeem Kadri. A lot of people in London will tell you that Kadri looks as good as Taveres anyway.
Every year...
Gretzky’s OHL goal scoring record gets broken?
Really…?
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
having been to many a Knights game with both of them playing, I’d have to say nay on that.
Kadri looks very very good, but Tavares is on another level.
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha! Oh man, Matt Duchene indeed, thanks for the correction. In any event, he’s sure not to be another Gretzky.
there will never
be another Gretzky. The game is different now.
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true, but you know what I mean. Tavares will be great, but not that great. OHL numbers don’t turn into NHL numbers every single time anyway.
what is
“that great”? Maybe he’s not a generational talent, a la Malkin or Ovechkin, but is Sundin considered a generational talent? Is Lecavalier?
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s going to be good.
did you watch him in the worlds? the kid can play hockey, he’s not afraid of the rough stuff, and, most importantly, he LOVES to play…
He could be Ovechkin without the accident. He has 1000x the personality Crosby has, Of course, so does a rock.
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man, you should hear the London radio commercial he does, it is the most monotone disinterested thing i have ever heard
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I guess the doubts are coming from Cody Hodgson keeping up with him this year…
I dunno. I’d love Tavares because it’s about time the Leafs were rewarded with a player like him.
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nash, Kovalchuk, Heatly, Semin, Iginla etc etc etc
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that players are drafted most years that have the potential to turn out as good as a Sundin or a Lecavalier – they often don’t, of course – but the point is, there’ll be another year and another great prospect coming up again. Furthermore, if we’re being honest with ourselves (and sometimes it’s tough to be) we probably won’t have enough in the cupboards to trade for him. Unless we part with Schenn. Hmm.
If Burke can land that pick in a way that wont cripple the teams prospect base, it may well be worth it, with players like Kubina and Kaberle as bait it might not be needed either. But ive said it before, any player in the top 10 is gonna help out a ton
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
when it comes down to it, id rather burke keep the 7th pick (should the leafs not move) and use his assets to secure the 4-6th pick if possible, draft two potential very good players instead of one potentially great one
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
But the #7 is probably the most valuable asset he has. How could he get another top pick without moving the one he has?
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by Down Goes Brown on Apr 14, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
truth, most of my hope is false speculation and over valuing of the set pieces Burke is in control of, but I refuse to give up hope
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Bribery. Chicanery. Outright threats of violence.
All of the above are in play!
Hey when you get punished when you attempt to follow the rules, why not just go nuts I say.
Gerber power!!!1
by LeafFanInVan on Apr 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You can take Kaberle, Stajan and a second rounder for your 5th pick or you can take this 12 guage shotgun shell, without the shell part
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If Antropov is only worth a second round pick, I don’t want to know how small a return the Leafs would get for Stajan.
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more valuble than buckshot
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on the size of shot and whether you’re talking lead, steel or bismuth.
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Antro’s contract ending this summer is what limited him to a 2nd rounder. If he had another year or two, I think Burke makes that trade for a 1st.
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It’s moot.
If Antro’s contract wasn’t expriring I don’t think Burke trades him (the Leafs only moved UFAs at the deadline).
I also don’t think there’s a market for Antro unless he’s a pending UFA. With the cap declining and the lack of teams with cap space, who’s going to make a deal for him?
Back to my main point: Stajan is pretty much worthless as trade bait.
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Stajan wont go alone if he goes, he will be part of a package deal and only be valuble to a team that needs some secondary scoring and isnt lacking in toughness
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Even in a package, who needs a soft third line center at $1.75M on an expiring contract? I don’t see any value there other than as a Leaf salary dump.
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He’s young-ish, decent offensive numbers, and a good presence in the dressing room. “A soft, third line centre” is a bit on the harsh side, but you’re right about the contract expiring.
Harsh? Maybe, but...
Stajan’s biggest problem is that he’s lacking in offensive talent to be a real top six guy; he’s too soft and weak to be a shutdown specialist and after his next contract puts him over $2M/year he’ll be too expensive to be anything else.
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40 assists!
You can sell that to a market that doesn’t know any better, like Atlanta, or Vancouver.
Just like the way JFJ tried to sell us Blake as a 40-goal man, except that most of us did know better.
by general borschevsky on Apr 14, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
How many are second assists?
How many were put up during his early season hot streak?
How many games did he go without a point?
All signs point to low-value.
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Yes
Two picks in the top 10 would really be something to get excited about, especially if one of them is the younger Schenn.
by general borschevsky on Apr 14, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing we can all agree on is If the Leafs can actually obtain two picks in the top 10, the Leafs will draft both a forward and d-man. But realistically, the Leafs will likely get a mid-first rounder, if the team is able to finagle a deal.
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we probably won’t have enough in the cupboards to trade for him.
That’s why any trade would involve established players and economic factors. Even then, it’s obviously a long-shot but why not enjoy the possibilities?
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it is all speculation until it happens
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
and then it’s a huge let-down (see: Day, Trade Deadline).
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
sshhhhut uuuuup!
Burke needs to stop talking up mr tavares. Learn some reverse psychology, brian!!
The kid’s a big fat slacker and a bit of a dud. He’ll fit right in with the Leafs, or “Laffs” as the more humorous members of the opposing fanbase call us. We’ll take one for the team and draft him, I guess. Thank me later.
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hahaha
I was thinking that I hope this doesn’t end up a disappointment like the 1st for Antropov talk.
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If the economy hadnt tanked it would have worked!
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke might want Hedman.
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Cowen fandom aside, if it’s between Hedman and Cowen, I think it’s an easy decision who to pick. And I say this despite knowing who lingers here…
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Yeah
Two good knees over one good one.
Think of the heart attacks we had every time Antro got hit near his knee and multiply it by 100.
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Uh oh. My Taver-ection is back.
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by Down Goes Brown on Apr 14, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Tavardon.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Apr 14, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Tavoner?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Tavurbation?
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of course if Schenn 2.0 is drafted we call all have multiple Schenngasms
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the ESP experiment at the beginning of Ghostbusters.
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It's a fix!!
remember the tie for later!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Burke’s going to right this ship, baby.
It’s a good day.
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please
tell me you’re not going to buy a Canucks jersey….
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
From Berger
Would the Islanders, for example, trade that choice to Burke for the Leafs’ first-round pick [No. 7 overall]; at least one second-round pick; Schenn, and a wad of cash [i.e. taking an existing contract off the Islanders’ roster]? Schenn is certainly shaping up to be a dominating blue-liner, but is he in the "can’t miss/franchise-player" category of Tavares?
Um…..pass.
Read the asshat here, if you dare.
no thanks
he doesn’t listen to a word Burke says, does he…
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that’s the sort of offer it would take.
Would you do this year’s first, next year’s first and a second + cash?
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by Down Goes Brown on Apr 14, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
two firsts? hell no
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I would do it if it was lottery protected. But I don’t see how the Islanders/whomever picks first takes that deal in its stead.
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the islanders would because they will be terrible enough next year to have a very good shot at Hall
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but the Islanders would have leverage here and could and should demand two unprotected first rounders no matter what. If they don’t get it, they pick Tavares/Hedman and pick next year’s top guy without losing much.
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Can’t exchange cash under the CBA, but I would encourage Burke to take on any and every bad contract in the league so long as they came with picks and or prospects
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but i just want to say that brian burke is the fucking man.
i doubt all the stars will align properly for this to happen, but if anyone could scare the stars into alignment, it’s burke.
you think he should be saying all of this so publicly though?
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I don’t think it matters in this case. Tavares is and has been the top guy in this draft since he started playing hockey. What Burke is saying is essentially what everyone is thinking of right now. Just more Burke bluster, but the bluster sounds goooood.
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Question.
We have something like a 4.8% chance of winning the lottery and moving up four places in the draft. But is it possible to move up just a couple spots? I don’t quite understand this process, but what are the odds that we could pick 4th or 5th overall?
Zero.
One team will win the lottery. That team will move up a maximum of four places. End of lottery.
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hm
could you explain?
I’m getting this – all the bottom 5 teams get their requisite # of balls to determine where they draft. One is picked at random, that team drafts #1 – how are the rest decided?
by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The rest are decided as the standing dictate. So if any team below the Leafs win the lottery, Toronto will now pick 8th instead of 7th. If hypothetically speaking the Leafs win the lotto, the team would pick 3rd, while the normal third place team Colorado would pick 4th, Atlanta picks 5th, Los Angeles picks 6th, etc.
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No worries. In the Leafs case, any team above them has no affect whatsoever on their ranking of 7th. It’s the teams from 8th to 11th that can affect Toronto’s ranking if they end up winning the lottery. The Leafs can either pick 3rd, remain at 7, or fall to 8th.
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Basically, they’ll open the envelopes from 14th to 1st. If the 8th pick is Toronto then we are fucked. If the 7th pick isn’t the Leafs then go fucking nuts because we are drafting 3rd.
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that would be insane
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m gonna be so pissed if we drop to 8th.
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by blurr1974 on Apr 14, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
if the sens draft ahead of us, i will be ever so pissed
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Islanders win I doubt they’ll trade away their pick. Their fans were pissed last year when they traded down twice. It took a long time for Isles fans to calm down, I doubt that Garth and his front office would try and get away with not taking the guy fans would be most excited about unless they got a ridiculous package in return.
Under no circumstances should Burke trade away the future captain of the Leafs. Schenn is going to be freaking amazing for a long time. I’d take Luke Schenn plus any one of the guy’s projected to go top 8 over Tavares any time.
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