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John Tavares looked like his dog had been run over when the Islanders won the lottery.

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poor JT, I wonder if his parents can convince him that he is too good for the islanders?

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 14, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

hah

quite awesome.

by Karina on Apr 14, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Slow clap….

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by Wrap Around Curl on Apr 14, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

poor boy

but i’ll comfort victor, not him. johnny t can have a piece of the cake i made for easter.

by tugboats and arson on Apr 14, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

hahahah!

I wonder if he will hold out?

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by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 14, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope he doesn’t hold out, but if he does and he comes to the Leafs, who am I to complain?

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by bkblades on Apr 14, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda want him to

But then I don’t because you know… karma… like the what Lindros got…

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by Winkle on Apr 15, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but remember how dominant he was for those few years?

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 15, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

but only for a few years before karma removed him from the NHL… would prefer Tavares have a nice long career… with the Leafs

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by Winkle on Apr 15, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll get him when the Islanders fold.

Keep firing Assholes!

by Ubernoober on Apr 14, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

On Clawson’s facebook?

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by PPP on Apr 14, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, touche

Morrow had his four rings with him for luck.

I liked how the “rumblings” about JT’s OHL playoffs so far lowered his stock. (Oh yeah, he sucks now, dump him…)

Ahhh, this mulligan year has paid off.

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by Dominik on Apr 14, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet….for all this hard work can somebody bring me an ice pack? I’m dying from working off the beer gut in ball hockey.

by Clawson on Apr 14, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

where do you play ball hockey? My first game was tonight too.

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by mf37 on Apr 14, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the streets with my friends. We only played once last year so we thought we thought we’d start earlier this year.

by Clawson on Apr 14, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a men’s 30+ league and they scramble the teams every year so it stays nice and friendly.

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by mf37 on Apr 14, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold out JT!!! Brian Burke (and the geniuses running the Isles) will handle it from there.

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by Brad Ackerson on Apr 15, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

You know what's hilarious?

Detroit is pulling the pants down on the NHL and CBA for the last few contracts they’ve signed for the last little while.

They’re signing they’re big players for long term deals, bringing down the cap hit to very friendly dollar values (read: zetterberg, franzen) and ripping the CBA for all its worth.

Does no one realize that these players can retire at any time and the cap hit rolls off their backs like water on a duck? The players can be buried in the minors for little dollars (if they last that long) or they won’t count for anything once they retire against the cap? The cap hit only applies to players that sign deals at what, 30+ years old is it?

I’m not totally well versed in the cap and how it works with older players, but if you sign a young player for 10 years, what does it matter if he retires and / or you send him to the minors when he gets older?

Sign these guys for 40 years if you have to, but give them their money in the first 4 -5 years, then do with them what you want. The cap won’t matter if their last years are worth nothing. Bury them in the minors, let them retire. Either way, they get their money, and its circumvents the cap. Holland knows what he’s doing, and I think Wang knew what he was doing with DiPietro. This cap system is flawed, and front-loaded deals are going to be the norm going forward as far as I can see.

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by BeyondBeleaf on Apr 15, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, it’s 35 or older that dollars still count against the cap, even if the player is sent to the minors, retires, or whatever. So yes, a player signed to a long-term deal at 28 years old could retire at 37, and if the last few years of the contract were $1 million each, he’d lose hardly anything off the total value of the contract and the team wouldn’t have the cap hit – but would have still benefitted from the reduction in cap hit it provided over the player’s productive years.

There is already whining from some people(fans, MSM) about how such deals “violate the spirit of the salary cap” and this “loophole” will surely be closed in the next CBA. I think it’s smart – the rules are there, if the owners wanted the salary amount in a given year to count against the cap instead of the average over the contract they could have written it that way. I think the owners left in means for cap circumvention because each of them thought he could use them to take advantage of other owners, and they grumble if someone else beats them to the punch.

(The salary numbers even have to be structured so that they can’t vary too extremely – so you can’t give someone $47 million in the first two years, and then have the remaining 28 years be at $1 million each, reducing the cap hit on a thirty year contract to $2.5 million per year, so the fact that there are stipulations about how contracts can be structured is to me a dead giveaway that this kind of idea was in their minds all along.)

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by Baroque on Apr 15, 2009 5:05 AM EDT reply actions  

the NHL

has the right to veto contracts that they don’t like or find abusive of the CBA. I can’t imagine the NHLPA particularly enjoys the hometown discount that’s going on in Detroit either, and they can exert pressure on players through other means.

There are checks inherent in the system, right now I think Detroit’s getting away with it simply because they can claim that it’s their system and collection of talent that allows players to put up the numbers they do. Franzen also has an injury history, which theoretically brings his value down. The NHL is likely miffed anyway, and they’ve established a history of letting questionable deals slide only to find retribution later (see Frogren, Jonas). Detroit’s just toeing the line of acceptability when it comes to their contracts, and I think anything more blatant in the future from them will result in a shitstorm.

by koopa kid on Apr 15, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those salary structures were put in place along with the 35+ in order to prevent teams from giving veterans deals that paid them $9M one year and $500K the next for a $4.75M cap hit and letting them retire after the first season.

There is a clause in the CBA that specifically says that any circumvention of the spirit of the CBA is against the rules and this deal most certainly falls into that category. It would be nice to see Bettman grow a pair.

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by PPP on Apr 15, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

if Burkie starts doing it you bet your ass he’ll give it a go

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 15, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be nice to see Bettman grow a pair against teams that aren’t named the Maple Leafs.

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by Winkle on Apr 15, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was absolutely hysterical to see how horrified Tavares looked…he almost resembled Steve Francis when the Vancouver Grizzlies drafted him

In Bill Simmons terms, that was the “John Tavares Face”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Apr 15, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

the kid wants to be a Leaf very bad

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 15, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt….I would also bet the prospect of dealing with what counts as female in Long Island is also equally depressing

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Apr 15, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha That has to be Tavares’ main concern.

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by Carcel Mousineau (Nathan) on Apr 15, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

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