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Stopping The Spin: The Fletcher Vendetta

No idea if I'll do this more often but here's another response to Damien Cox's "blog" (ie extra column that didn't make the newspaper because it wasn't good enough). I submitted part of it as a comment so we'll see if it gets 'moderated'.

Kristine and Richard Carlson made a tonne of money off of the concept that you should not sweat the small stuff in life. In theory it's a nice idea. Don't get upset because someone cuts you off in traffic (forget that it's a harbinger of society's increasingly selfish focus) or because your significant other doesn't take out the trash (forget that it's a sign of a lack of respect) because if you drill down far enough the source of your frustration is a trivial matter. It's a great theory because then you can make anything in your life into an afterthought and keep that chipper attitude going without having to resort to actually working on your issues.

So I guess you could say that in the grand scheme of things Damien Cox and his words really are nothing to get worked up about (don't tell Kim or Godd). Of course, his wilfully deception and fudging of facts is a problem if only because it is part of the larger issue with the traditional media doing the same thing with coverage of matters that are actually important. But that's an entirely different post. This one will highlight exactly why it drives me insane when people tell me that they think Damien Cox provides "insightful" coverage or that he "tells it like it is" because that's about the furthest thing from the truth. If he's not distorting the facts he's inventing them and usually it's to fit a particular agenda (see: Fighting, Banning of) or a vendetta (see: Fletcher, Cliff).

Exhibit A: Thursday April 2, 2009 Mailbag

I think I'd have a less visceral reaction if Cox just used the contacts and knowledge that he'd built over decades of covering the Leafs for good without stooping to the kind of transparent attacks he tends to make. For some hilarious background on why Cox hates Fletcher take your mind back to January when Fletcher was announced as the interim GM on a 19 month contract with no possibility of becoming the full-time GM.

So it's no surprise that Cox is still looking to get back at the cool kid in school for pantsing him in front of his buddies. Speaking of Cliff Fletcher:

But he wasn’t a suitable fit to run an NHL team in the cap era, yet Richard Peddie was prepared to let him to do so. Fletcher gave away viable draft picks like candy last summer (even a fifth rounder was obscene for Ryan Hollweg) to try and put a better team on the ice immediately and in so doing hang on to the "interim" GM position.

You know who wasn't suitable to run an NHL team in the cap era? John Ferguson Jr. You know who gave away viable draft picks like candy for his entire tenure? John Ferguson Jr. I assume that Damien's solution would have left JFJ in charge until Burke could be hired. Forget that JFJ would have been in charge for another trade deadline, draft, and UFA period. There's no defending that Hollweg trade but what this highlights is Cox's refusal to admit that moves can be made to affect both the Leafs' present and future fortunes. Therefore signing a 26 year old UFA is a sign that Burke is more interested in the short rather than the long-term.

Star-divide

But why put words into Damien's mouth when he hangs himself so well:

The last piece evidence that he was prepared to sell the future was the deal that brought Lee Stempniak to town for Alex Steen and Carlo Colaiacovo, a deal that will be even more difficult to swallow next season when the light-weight winger earns a $3.5 million salary.

Here's where you wonder whether Cox just doesn't know what he is talking about or whether his editor is clueless. The thing that bothers me is that because he writes for The Star readers assume that there is some fact-checking going on behind the scenes. Let's take try to figure out what Cox means by veterans. Does he mean based on age? 

Lee Stempniak

#12 / Right Wing / Toronto Maple Leafs

6-0

195

Feb 04, 1983

Carlo Colaiacovo

#28 / Defenseman / St. Louis Blues

6-1

200

Jan 27, 1983

Alexander Steen

#20 / Left Wing / St. Louis Blues

6-1

205

Mar 01, 1984

So Colaiacovo is the oldest of the three? Ok, so obviously Damien didn't mean that he was a veteran based on age. Maybe it's because Stempniak has played in more seasons than Steen and Colaiacovo? Hmmm Carlo's played in parts (small parts of course) of six seasons compared to four for Stempniak? Ok, maybe it's total games played? Nope. That's 310-290 for Steen. So really, you could say that the Leafs traded two underachieving grizzled veterans (combined stats before the trade: 30GP 2-3-5, -6) for an exciting young prospect (before the trade: 14GP 3-10-13, -3).

Now, obviously trades don't always work out the way that you'd hope. Instead of recapturing the form that saw him pot 27 goals in his second season Stempniak has struggled to score for the Leafs. Meanwhile, Carlo has flourished and Steen has basically replaced what Stempniak had become in St. Louis. It has worked out so well that Gallagher has been able to get over seeing his favourite player dealt. Of course, anyone can look at birth dates or games played or career stats. It takes something special to jump into the comments with guns blazing when someone points out the flaws in his logic:

Damien here. . .coupla quick points. . .on Colaiacovo/Steen for Stempniak, what some apparently fail to understand (or won't) is that it was far less important what the two former first rounders were or were going to be, and more important that taking on an underachieving veteran with a huge contract wasn't a good idea.

Ignore the fact that Damien doesn't realize that his comments have his username so he doesn't have to start each comment by introducing himself (maybe he wants to ensure that everyone knows it's not "DamienCox" writing) and look at his ridiculous clarification. Add it to his original note and it is really comical.

The fact of the matter, according to The Omen, is that what we should all be focused on is that the Leafs took on an underachieving veteran (see above) with a huge contract. How huge? Stempniak will be making $3.5M next year. According to NHL Numbers his cap hit is $1.882M and he will be a UFA July 1, 2010. What Cox apparently fails to understand (or won't) is that it is far less important what Lee makes every year than to know what his salary counts against the cap. Anyone suitable to write about the NHL in the cap era knows that fact.

But what about Steen and Carlo? I bet their contracts are miniscule. Steen's cap hit is $1.28M for one more year and then he's an RFA while Carlo's is 996K before he becomes a UFA after next season. So, with the help of my trusty calculator, Fletcher cleared up $394K in cap space for next season. What a horrible idea to increase your available cap space. But the fun's not over yet:

Second, you can try to twist this until the cows get home, but the reality is that the Leafs gave up a first, second and third to move up in the draft and get Schenn. Period.

I love that this drives Damien so insane. One guy just randomly mentions that trading a second and a third to get Schenn might not have been a good idea (no worries, Wendel has his IP address) and Cox flies off the handle. It all comes down to semantics. What people object to is Damien's insistence on presenting the trade in the worst light possible. I'll let the pros take over for the grand finale:

Fletcher, on the other hand, might have gone out and traded picks away. In fact, we know he did toy with the idea of dealing away the club’s 2009 first rounder to the Ducks.

...

Finally, those of you who want to write and argue that Fletcher was going to be able to trade the Leafs first rounder in '09 and make it draft protected to Anaheim straight up for Bobby Ryan are living in a truly amazing dream world.
The Ducks would have wanted much more. Whether it still would have been a good deal we'll never know, but Anaheim didn't make it, so it only exists in the fantasy world.

 From their own submission to The Omen's comments:

So the trade was too speculative to defend what Fletcher may have acquired, but just real enough to bash Fletcher for discussing it. Fantasy World is confusing! Good thing you send us regular postcards from there.

And finally - I know it's his book cover, but how great is that "Spin Plus" has revealed that a gigantic "67" hangs over Damien's desk? It's getting hard to figure out where Cox Bloc ends and the Spin begins....

- Godd Till

Of course, it's no surprise that neither Godd nor my comments came through. Cox might be commenting but he's doing the online equivalent of smacking around the kids from the short bus.

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Great post

You really have to wonder if there’s anyone checking his work over there. His errors, omissions and outright lies are staggering. It’d be funny if people didn’t read it and actually think it was true.

And people who say Damien "tells it like it is" are the kind of cynical people – Leaf fans included – that like to complain about the team no matter how well they’re doing, and no matter how loosely based in facts their complaints are. Mouthbreathers, all of them.

by daoust on Apr 6, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

If I had the money, I would gladly take out a full page ad every week in the Star and post your rebuttals to Cox…

"Ninety percent of the game is half mental."
The Left Coast Lock

by blurr1974 on Apr 6, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Time to start a fundrasing campaign! It must be stopped. Or mocked unendingly!

Running over terribleness in search for something positive about the Leafs. Anything? Anyone?!

by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 6, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like we need to start a collection. i’m happy to look into STAR ad rates.

by daoust on Apr 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this train of thought

Pension Plan Puppets: A Toronto Maple Leafs blog and a group therapy session.

by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome

I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it. - Dogbert

by JohnnyG on Apr 6, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m in

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by eyebleaf on Apr 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to do it right, you’ll buy anti-Damien advertising in the Globe, Post or Sun. No sense in giving money to TorStar – as long as they’re selling out ad space, there’s no need for them to ever change.

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by mf37 on Apr 6, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Idea

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should also challenge damien to a debate/discussion. i know a guy who plays in a mens league with Paul Hendrick, maybe he could pull some strings.

by daoust on Apr 6, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Hendrick actually plays? I thought I remembered seeing him on a special on Leafs TV where he is just godawful on the ice.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 6, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

most grown men I know who play are godawful on the ice….

by Karina on Apr 6, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, but I mean I thought I remember seeing him have trouble even moving on skates.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 6, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i always assumed he was mugging it up a bit for the camera. I don’t mean like he’s actually an amazing player and he’s hiding it, just that he’s probably not as bad as he tries to make himself look on camera.

"Ninety percent of the game is half mental."
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by blurr1974 on Apr 6, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't sweat the small stuff, but still...
I am at the stage of writing where it feels like I am pushing the baby out.

Say, what?!

I don’t take Cox too seriously. I don’t think he believes half the things that he writes, he just wants you to believe it so he can tell you why you were wrong at a later date. It’s not called the Spin for nothin’. He’s kind of mired himself in that schtick now though and has become mostly irrelevant.

by general borschevsky on Apr 6, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

My festivus decision to abandon any and all grievances with sportswriters has paid enormous dividends. Now, they can write whatever they want and I find I really don’t care. I’ll read it if I feel like it, take it on its merits and pitch whatever I find uninteresting.

They’re paid to have an opinion, not to have it make people happy. If people get bent out of shape by what they write and comment or come back again, that’s to their benefit. They LIKE that.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure but...
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts
- Daniel Patrick Moynihan

That’s what bothers me. You can’t be writing in a major national paper and pretend that you can make up whatever you want to support your opinions. You can hate the trade but not because the salary for Stempniak is $3.5M next year or because Stempniak is a “veteran” because those reasons are a distortion (or deliberately misleading) and an outright lie.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can if you’re a columnist, particularly a sports columnist.

He’s writing editorials, not breaking news.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not exactly a crime in sports reporting but it happens in real reporting and with growing regularity.

Changing the name of what he is doing doesn’t excuse him of the requirement to be truthful does it?

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it does. I expect a reporter to get the facts straight. I expect an opinion columnist to write about whatever irks him. I expect the reader to distinguish the two.

The biggest thing, though, is not to let it annoy you. Calmly demolish an argument with facts. When you show irritation, you weaken your position.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t be zen about the entire thing. Not when I have anti-Leaf fans and dummy Leaf fans parroting his points to me as if they were gospel.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s where the calm ‘gosh, funny that they’ve won more games than any other Canadian team in the past 15 years’ comes in handy.

Prepping for my summer history series. The stuff we’re seeing today is nothing compared to what it once was. The real difference, I suppose, is that then it was fashionable to be blindly supporting the home side.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prepping for my summer history series.

Best news of the day. I was getting worried thinking about what happens to LotD after the season!

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LotD goes on hiatus when the Leafs do, but I’m rereading my book on the NHA and early NHL (want to make sure I have my facts straight, doncha know) and there are a number of things I’ve wanted to do that I haven’t had time for.

Biggest one is on the screw job that ended the Blueshirts. That could take all summer…..

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a pleasure to work on that book & give Eddie Livingstone’s rep some rehabilitation.

by Deceptions on Apr 7, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome

Thanks for joining. Also, that’s pretty cool that you worked on the book.

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by PPP on Apr 7, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

It’ll be really interesting to have you around to comment. I found your book to be a great read the first time through, and am picking up more on my second go-through.

Room for good discussions this summer!

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 7, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you also have to look at what a given piece is trying to accomplish. As GB said, does he even believe this stuff himself? Or is he simply stirring the pot for whatever reason toget people reading/talking about/responding to his stuff?

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

For amusement value

Go watch ‘The Passion Returns’ and watch a youngish Damien gush about Fletcher and the Leafs….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

wolf who cried "boy!"

Sometimes deliberatley misleading, sometimes just sloppy. You’re right about the Stempniak salary vs. cap-hit being a significant point that shouldn’t be left out of the argument.

 "…a deal that will be easier even more difficult to swallow next season when the (195 pound) light-weight winger earns a $3.5 million salary has an actual cap-hit of only 1.9 million ".

by general borschevsky on Apr 6, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s always done that. McCabe’s deal was always about the 7+ million rather than the 5-and-change cap hit.

Possible that he doesn’t fully get the distinction. Nobody went to journalism school because they were good at math.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or even if he understands it, maybe he hopes you don’t….

There’s an angle there somewhere. Not sure what it is.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The angle is that his fact-less writing demonstrates his contempt for his readers.

That’s why Chemmy and I ruthlessly fact-check everything we write. He have uncontempt for you people.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they’ve done the math and have determined that he gets more readers for anti-Leaf stuff than pro-Leaf. If it were reversed, he’d be the 31 cheerleader.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha true. Also, that should say that ‘we’ have uncontempt.

Definitely. With 26% (or thereabouts) of the country loving the Leafs it makes more sense to appeal to the other 74% but why stoop to lying? There is so much to mock the Leafs for that you can show with the facts as we all know.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's less fun

when you’re stuck with facts. They’re dry and boring.

And take researchering and all that hard stuff.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say, though, that once you get past the shots at Fletch in that one piece, the rest was shockingly optimistic.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

#1

not 31.

Shift key fail.

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by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

But he’s covering it! He should learn the distinction. Or his Editor should.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t care. They like the sensational even more than he does.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with 1967ers on this one. I just don’t care what Cox has to say so I don’t get worked up about it.

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by Chemmy on Apr 6, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto here

the only time I read him is when he’s quoted on here, or when he tricks me with an actually decent article (like the one about Oreskovic’s skating).

by Karina on Apr 6, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

1967

is a very well-written book.

I should re-read mine.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is weird to admit…

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve had a bunch of different Leaf books over the years. That ranks with the best of them.

The one I really want to reread is lost in a box somewhere. It’s called “The Leafs in Autumn,” written by Jack Batten. A bunch of interviews with the 40s Leafs. It was the one that really got me going on hockey history.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, one of the ones, anyway.

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by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I read amazon correctly

You can buy this book for the lofty price of ten cents (probably US) plus four bucks shipping.

Best ten cents you’ll ever spend….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

the fact that the book is well-written and (I think) pretty even-handed is what makes me take the editorials with such a grain of salt.

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a revelation for me to read. It was a style of writing that I had never seen from Cox before.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

His Logic

His logic on the Schenn uptrade is baffling… he present one side of the arguement all the time. It’s not honest and very deceitful.

There’s a suprise.

by RepressedOptimism on Apr 6, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I love how moving up to take the Sedins or Pronger shows how this GM knows how to build a team, but Fletcher moving up is a prime example of an out of date GM mortgaging the future. Who proof reads this stuff eh

by Johnny Thunder on Apr 6, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I managed to go about six months without reading Cox, but the last month or so I’ve had that monkey on my back and I can’t turn away. His entry today about the Leafs not overachieveing is just awful. I posted the following response, I hope it makes the cut over at the Spin.

Three things: Who are “the many” cited in the opening sentence claiming the Leafs have overachieved? Are these the same “many” the predicted the Leafs putting up 60 points this season?

Secondly, the Leafs are an awful team that’s a long way from competing and their goals against is embarrassing. But if you measure success by total points, a case can certainly be made that the Leafs overachieved. Name one so-called expert who predicted the Leafs putting up ~80 points this season?

Finally, how is it that in your blog today Bryan McCabe is one of the reasons the Leafs were so porous on D under Coach Maurice yet you slammed the Leafs for not getting enough of a return for him last Fall? I’d love to read your detailed thoughts as to how a team can get a big return for an overpaid, defensively suspect player that has a NMC and can dictate the teams he’s willing to accept a trade to.

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by mf37 on Apr 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

And of course there is no chance that he’ll reply to your comment because he knows he’s buried already.

For the record: Working Class Howard predicted 67 points for the Leafs and Steve pointed out that that was stupid. So much for the experts.

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by PPP on Apr 6, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s wrong about the overachieving bit. That’s just Damien being Damien.

But I think he’s right that some of the blame for the woeful goals against and woeful penalty killing has to fall on the coaching staff. We are nightmarishly bad in our own zone, even worse than the Maurice/Raycrap days. And that’s telling.

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by eyebleaf on Apr 6, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but would YOU want to be the guy who has to tell Tim Hunter he’s fired? Yikes!

Gerber power!!!1

by LeafFanInVan on Apr 6, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cox

gives me a migraine, for real.

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by eyebleaf on Apr 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I tend to find Cox amusing-

More than anything else. It’s just so damn fashionable to be a Leaf-hater in the overcrowded cesspool that is Leaf’s coverage in Toronto. I find you can tell more about Cox by the majority of his commenters, “Dur, I agree, Laffs teh suxxxxxxxxxx!”, all of whom failed out of 7th grade and got beat up on the local hockey rink a few too many times.

The only thing as good as a Leafs win is a Sens loss.

by kidkawartha on Apr 6, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know who's watching the Tavares race at the moment

but the Leafs have a real shot at Atlanta, LA and Phoenix and could stand as high as fourth….

Leaf, the universe and everything.

by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

shhhhh, we’re trying not to jinx it

Because Taking The Leafs Seriously Is Not An Option

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 6, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leafs will finish 4th last, then lose the secret-double-probation lottery and draft ninth.

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by 1967ers on Apr 6, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Direct from Walt Gainey land

According to an inquiring press that cannot find a Hab they don’t like, 2/3s of the power play were lost on the weekend. “Spock” schneider has some kind of upper body (mental) injury as well after a hit from May. Markov was seen limping before practice after " his hit from behind" by a belarusan sprite. Not only is Grabbo a scrapper, he apparently has belarusan alternative medicine powers that locate pressure points around the face. So when said face is planted correctly into the boards, this results in some kind of lower body injury.

Tough place that Belarus. While looking for an accurate belarusan translation of Habs suck, I came across this gem
“The use of the Belarusan language in Belarus is, to put it lightly, officially discouraged in Belarus. Actually, Belarusans speaking Belarusan in Belarus are often invited to the local Belarusan police station for “dental adjustments” by their Belorusan comrades in blue." I think BB should devote more scouting resources there.

by blue with age on Apr 6, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

that explains why Grabbo is pretty much oblivious to pain

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 6, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

After seeing that Larocky forearm to his head, I think Grabbo has a force field emanating from his hair.

by blue with age on Apr 6, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is like Samson

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 6, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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