The Draft Board: Jared Cowen
In preparation for the NHL Draft, we're going to run down the top 15 players as ranked by the ISS and have our users vote for how good they think each player will become to help us prepare our draft board. It's not often that real work stands in the way of our posting but the past two days didn't give much time to writing for either one of us. However, today we'll make up for lost time. First up, I'm back the ISS #7, Jared Cowen.
Any discussion about drafting Jared Cowen begins and ends with one topic: the knee injury that ended his season. Cowen fell from his earlier ISS ranking of # 3 because of the injury and teams are of course leery of using a high first round pick. He did an interview with Hockey's Future in which he addresses the injury.
As a huge fan of Nik Antropov and Tom Brady I am quite familiar with knee injuries. After Antropov had both knees bionically repaired they held up for the rest of his time in Toronto. Sure you gasped every time he fell and got up slowly and he wasn't the future of the franchise. And all accounts point to Tom Brady's knee being stronger than ever. As Chemmy frequently notes, this is a kid that was above Evander Kane and Matt Duchene last year (although his ranking fell to 7th mid-season he was ranked 4th prior to the injury) and knee surgery is extremely specialised now. Why was Cowen ranked # 3? He helped lead the Spokane Chiefs to the Memorial Cup last year (ask wrap about it!) and he has a tantalizing skillset:
Cowen is huge by junior standards and has become comfortable with imposing his size on opponents. Mobile for a player of his size, he is capable of contributing more offensively. His reach and strength enable him to dominate opponents physically in junior hockey. Spokane Chiefs management continues to marvel at Cowen’s commitment and work ethic.
If you're looking for more omens pointing towards Cowen being destined to pair with Our Luke and Saviour for the next 15 years look no further than his birthplace: Allan, Saskatchewan. The Leafs have done pretty well drafting defencemen from the mythical kingdom of Saskatchewan.
| GP | G | A | PTS | PIM | |
| Spokane Chiefs (WHL) |
122 |
11 |
30 |
41 |
109 |
It is definitely a risk, no matter what you think about surgical techniques, to take a player that has had such major knee surgery. While the tools seem to be there it's clear that the teams that interviewed him were concerned. He is only halfway through his rehab and might not even be ready for the Juniors' camp in August. There would be no question that he would be spending the next year in Spokane. Listening to him speak, however, you get the sense that work ethic won't be the thing that holds his rehabilitation back. He comes as across as mature and well spoken and well suited to bouncing back. I just don't know if I can handle the stress.
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PPP was kind enough to let me toss in my take on Cow Cow. I know everyone is freaking about his knee injury but the kid is tough. Really. I am fairly certain this is the only time he has been injured as a Chief. What I love about Cowen is you always know when its his shift. I know he is rather large and hard to miss but he makes his presence known. His defensive partner was Jared Spurgeon (5'9, 170lbs.) and they were the wrecking crew and the go to shut down boys on the penalty kill. Oh and Cowen is fiercly protective of goalies. I think I have only see him fight once but that was when someone decided to plow into Dustin Tokarski. I've never seen someone drop gloves that fast. It was over in about 30 seconds but Cowen devastated the player who decided to mess with his goalie.
Cow Cow also brings leadership to the team which became clear once he was injured and then the Chiefs had the Great Injury/Suspension Meltdown of 2009. I'd see Cowen at game sitting either in the press box or down in the seats but he cared about the game taking place. There were times I'd see him in utter agony over the game taking place while the other healthy scratches or injured messed with their cell phones and talked to their girlfriends during intermission.
Jared is a wonderful player and I think he'd pair fantastically with Luke Schenn. He has a great attitude and solid work ethic who would jump into any sweater with enthusiasm. Also one time in an interview he got excited about his mom's cookies and it was adorable.
So PPPers, have at it. How good of an NHLer will Jared Cowen become? Defend your vote in the comments.
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Kid is a total beast, I have no squimishness about using the Leafs only over all pick to get him, while the Leafs need a prolific goal scorer more urgently, Cow Cow + Schenn would be an epic pairing for years to come.
vote Cow Cow
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
I have a good feeling about this one….
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by Karina on Jun 11, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions
I just want more fucking smashing on the blue line. Beauchemin, Cowen and Schenn would be delicious next seasons.
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What is Komisarek considered?
1st pairing? 2nd? All-star (HA!)? I see Cowen being similar to him (and Komisarek was drafted 7th overall too).
So whatever Komisarek is rated as, that’s what I’ll vote.
I would say that Komisarek is a second pairing guy.
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then that is what I voted. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Often times 2nd pairing guys become shutdown and get quality minutes anyway, taking up all the PK and much of the 5 on 5 time.
Cowen will have more offensive upside than Komeserik, he has a canon of a shot
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
though Komisarek did average just under 0.5 PPG in the AHL.
Did Komisarek take part in the fastest shot portion of the allstar game this year? Anyone recall what he scored. Still laugh that he was there.
on a team with good defensive depth (det, SJ, boston, hell even the Leafs) he is a 2nd pairing player, on a weaker defensive team, he is a first pairing
Cow Cow is bigger, meaner and less of a douche, i see him being better
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Just think, he’s 6’5" 218 lbs right now at 18. Once he fully matures around 22-23 and eats, trains, and lives like a professional hockey player, he’ll be a 6’5" 230-240lbs brick wall on the blue line.
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The kid is a beast. Same with Schenn. There could be almost 500lbs of meanness on the blueline with those two.
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god, alfreddson will pee himself
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I see him as a Pronger type, without the gap toothed ass hattedness
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hoping for Chara……
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by Karina on Jun 11, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, and ive seen him rated as closer to 6’7, so that might be more apt
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The interesting thing from last season was that he was at almost half a point a game before he got injured so he had been developing his offensive game.
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Yes
He has all the tools to be great. I have no doubt.
NO, don’t use our pick on him.
Sorry, but the knee still scares me…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
I have the same concerns, but will trust the team doctors and stuff.
Just to make a point though, I wasn’t injury prone as a teenager until I first blew my knee out at 17. Now my knee is shot. To be fair however, I had neither the doctors nor the training awaiting him though.
I got neely’d when i was 16, took me out for a whole season, i healed pretty good and it never bugged me, until last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Torn my right knee meniscus at 17. Played my senior season with a brace and a 55 gallon drum of Bengay. Still use the Bengay to this day and see a chiropractor once a month. Woot!
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In my short and brutal
ball hockey goaltending career, my right knee made some awful weird sounds on a save and it hurt like a bitch.
I have a pretty strong pain threshold so I knew it was bad. Finished the game tho… might have been a mistake as it can pretty much just go out at any time.
Oh well, what you gonna do?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 11, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ditto
i blew my right knee out at 15 in soccer.
the “still growing” didn’t help matters, but it’s fairly useless to this day. hence my apprehension
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you have a team of the best surgeons in the world reassemble your knee with 2009’s knowledge? Did you go through professional athlete caliber rehabilitation full time after that surgery?
Not trying to be a jerk but knee surgery has come a ridiculously long way. Chris Pronger tore his ACL off in 2002, and he’s just fine.
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yes
the wonderful world of medicine has come along way from the leeches and alcohol days of my youth Chemmy.
Still, he injured his knee, he’s still re-habbing it, chances are he won’t be ready for the season, no matter where he plays.
4 to 5 months after the draft, we’ll finally know if it healed well. In a rebuild, that’s not a chance a team can afford to take.
Pronger is not the standard (see Palmer, Carson) when it comes to knee injuries.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Pardon my ignorance
But who is Carson Palmer?
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QB for the Cincinnati Bengals in the NFL.
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hasn't played since early 2008.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-8-70/Brady-s-recovery-continues-to-impress.html
“The thing that’s most impressive to me is how fluid [Brady] looks, that three-step drop, his motion, transitioning from the drop to throwing across his body,” said Bell, a physical therapist who specializes in athletes and performing artists. “There’s no hitch. There’s no halting. It’s all very smooth.”
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and
if you’re wrong you just tossed away our only first round pick.
NOT worth it.
Again, I have no doubt he’s got all the potential to be a franchise player. None whatsoever, my only concern is in his knee’s ability to hold up in a league that’s faster and with bigger men than he’s played against.
If I’m Burke, and I’m trying to make the playoffs next year, I don’t use my first round pick on him and hope it all works it out.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what scares me. If he doesn’t work out that’s a top 7 pick gone forever. If the Leafs get a second first rounder or an early second rounder yeah but I get so nervous.
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good thing
the draft is only X players deep!
(where X is equal to the Leafs draft position, minus one. Solve for X)
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d laugh, but you know this is the template of the articles the mittenstringers are writing. No matter where they end up, even if they trade up, this will be the mantra. Unless, I suppose, they traded up to #1, and then it would be ‘The Leafs gave up entirely too much to do this, and have ruined the franchise forever’ (though how that could be, when we’ve been told we have NOTHING of value, I’m not sure, but they’ll find a way.)
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They panned the pick of Schenn as “who uses a 5th overall on a shutdown d-man”
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that’s because the draft was only 4 players deep.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i think a rebuild might be a perfect time for him to be drafted, especially this early, since rushing him will do a team in the Leafs contition no good, if the Leafs were a year or two farther along and just comming into their own as a contender, they might be hard pressed to force him into playing and agravating the knee
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely
if we’ve got more than one pick, or if we’ve got a full cupboard of prospects already.
We’re not the Wings gang. Nothing in the minors but scraps…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 11, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Pronger’s of similar size and plays the same position in the same sport. The only difference is their age.
Knee surgery has seriously gone through quantum leaps in the past decade. My dad had knee surgery in 1984, the year I was born, and it’s a horrible hack job.
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Also, not to be nosey, but when were you 17? Advances in medicine are getting ridiculous. Baseball example here, but Casey Jassen had a labrum issue at the end of 07 and needed surger. Apparently, had it happened even two years earlier, his prognosis for returning was almost zero. Now, the chances are much, much better.
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yeah, the fact that this kid is a pro athelte, gets the best medicine available and the best recovery team you can imagine, puts his scenario in a different world
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, agree
But it has to be a concern. Antropov was in that world too. And yes, I know he eventually became healthy, but it took time.
Any one injury will increase the chance of another, and that should be on everyone’s mind. I’m not trying to talk people out of him, I’d be extremely happy with him at 7, I’m just saying that this is part of the risk of drafting him, just like skating is part of the risk of drafting Tavares.
That concern is somewhat mitigated by his draft stock slipping. Pre injury Cowen was a top three pick with rising stock.
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he will be a steal at anything after 5th over all
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 11, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He was already 7 at the mid-season ranking.
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He was ranked 4th in the 2009 ISS mid season ranking.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=9267
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That’s what I get for believing something I saw on the internet!
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Totally agree
I’m 28 now. And like I said, I didn’t put nearly as much effort into rehabilitating it that a pro athlete would. I’m just kind of countering the “he wasn’t injury prone until he got injured” argument.
If the Leafs draft him, his knee will fall apart like wet tissue paper. If any other team drafts him, he’ll be a first pairing D. Either way, the Leafs will be wrong and we’ll all get to hear about it until 2058 or so…
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First Pair....
the kid has all the tools, I think we would be a force to have him and Schenn manhandling the oppostion…and damn, Wrap is going to ruin the Nylund voters!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 11, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
Also i left off the bit where he was totally crushed he wasn’t invited to try out for the World Juniors team. I trust that Jared is doing everything and then some to come off this knee injury in the right way. The fact he hasn’t been able to play is killing him.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jun 11, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
Holy Crap
He totally does! Where is Kerry Fraser?!?! We need that morphing.
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Also,
Thanks to everyone for being so gracious and delicate about my Cow Cow. I didn’t feel the need to punch anyone’s blood out.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jun 12, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions
What about the Nylund voters?
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