Brian Burke is fairly non-committal about this whole Dany Heatley thing

Not to poop on the festivities, but maybe have a little bit of leeway for extenuating circumstances (see Zezel, Peter)

but yes, I do love the man.

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t think Burkie has ever or wil everl ackowledge that he could have handled the Zezel situation differently.

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by furcifer on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I think that the way he handled Bryz and Kronwall and his statement that if a player deserves to play in the NHL that he will not stand between him and that chance indicate that he’s learned from that mistake.

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Haha

Fantastic

I don’t want him either, not with that attitude but Burke also said what we’re all thinking, ain’t right for a player to go public with a trade demand right away, I don’t think Murray did anything to justify that sorta action. If the GM refuses and you really want out, then you can argue that they have a legit reason to go public but to go public before the GM has had a chance to even react? That’s dick-ish.

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by Winkle on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

Especially

when you’re doing that to a GM who has pampered you so much since they acquired you…

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by Winkle on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

obviously, there are a few locker room issues to resolve on that team…

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

must be that country club atmosphere

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 17, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Not to question the Pope, but....

Why did he take Pronger after that Edmonton fiasco?

And who was ~~allegedly~~ banging Pronger’s wife?

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

not Pronger

he was boinking a local broadcaster twas the rumor

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Still not as stupid as what Kilger did, but fairly stupid.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

What did Kilger do?

by Clawson on Jun 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d rather not mention it on here, suffice it to say it was phenomenally stupid and retiring from hockey was his penance to the people that he hurt the most.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Leaving people hanging like that is just unbearably cruel.

by Clawson on Jun 17, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I live in the same town as Chad and I wouldn’t feel right about airing it on here.

I might elaborate in Montreal on draft day, if properly ~~drunk~~ motivated. But too many people read these posts.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't know anything for sure

Just what I’ve read. Here’s the latest speculation I know

by lordosis on Jun 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

you can google “Chad Kilger Rumors”

whether or not they’re true is not for me to say.

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Pronger’s just that good.

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Not to mention, when the GM tries damage control and says “Well, we’re going to talk about his issues” don’t come out right away and say “Nope, we did that. I want out”

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I love Brian Burke.

Until he doesn’t trade up at the draft ;)

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

I only want him trading up if it means we land in the top 3.

Anything else is a waste as the talent level drop off just isn’t that precipitous.

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll support any move he makes in trading up as long as it doesnt cripple the team for years to come

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

But why go back on tradition?

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

there is a new tradition in toronto, its called “dont fuck with Burke”

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

You can however fuck with “Burke” because he’ll back down.

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

one more time!

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

OH SNAP

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Rec’d.

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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 17, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

You know, given what I’ve heard about his lack of community service hours in Atlanta, I’d say Dany Heatley doesn’t need any advice from Burke about not finishing a sentence.

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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 17, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs

zing

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh snap

wow. that’s good.

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by palmateerlover on Jun 17, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

you mean

(for Karina!)

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Scorch

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Community service? That whiny, poaching, blue-line standing bitch should be in jail.

Hell, Bell got 6 months in American prison for hurting someone

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

An NFL player just got 30 days in jail, 2 years house arrest, and 8 years probation for drunk driving/hitting someone

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 17, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

If Snyders parents hadnt been so forgiving he might have actually gone to jail.
Bell hit a regular joe who probably realized ’CHING CHING" when he found out a pro athlete had hit him

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 17, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

and that's the lesson

leave no survivors.

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by blurr1974 on Jun 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

OUCH!!!!!

You are a cold, callous bastard.

Cool

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

DGB, you magnificent bastard, I declare you the Oscar Wilde of teh Intarwebs Barilkosphere. Splendid.

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by jrwendelman on Jun 17, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Love you Burke. Truly.

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by Wrap Around Curl on Jun 17, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

Ummm...

Didn’t Chris Pronger publicly request a trade just one year after signing a long-term contract?

And wasn’t Brian Burke the one who traded for him?

Of course he was. But hey, that was way back in the summer of 2006 – times have changed, values have shifted.

If Burke doesn’t want Heatley (which seems obvious) it’s a hockey decision or a cap management decision. It certainly isn’t a moral one.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 17, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions

I think the difference might be that Pronger asked Lowe for a trade and Lowe chose to make it public,

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by furcifer on Jun 17, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Just found this Puck Daddy post saying the same

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by furcifer on Jun 17, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Did someone mention that the Heatley thing was leaked by the organization?

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

According to the Ottawa papers, it came from Heatley’s agents.

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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 17, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Sleazy agents… They get a 10% cut of his contract, right?

What is 10% of seventy bazillion?

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Naw

It’s different as Puck Daddy and Staples noted. Pronger didn’t come out publicly and ask for a trade. That idiot Lowe decided that his best negotiating tactic was to take an amazing asset and devalue it. A fool and his stud defenceman are soon parted for ‘five assets’.

Otherwise that might be as turncoatish and hypocritical as writing for a Canucks site along with two Oilers sites.

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions

See I was gonna make a comment like that then I thought “nah tooo easy”.

by Clawson on Jun 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Sometimes you have to pick the low-hanging fruit.

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by PPP on Jun 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn you, sir ;)

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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 17, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Also, I heard the entire interview and he emphasises that it’s a problem when players make it public. he believes that they owe it to their team to keep their mouths shut to allow the GM to get the best return possible.

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by PPP on Jun 18, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Firstly I love the attitude. I love how he’s basically saying that if a player doesn’t want to play for his team then they can get to fuck.

Secondly, there’s an implied dismissiveness toward Heatley. Burke’s attitude is effectively, ‘You want a trade. That means, I don’t care about you anymore.’ Burke doesn’t like players who request trades; therefore he hates Heatley. And that’s before we get into Heatley’s aversion to two-way play – an attitude best described as ‘non-Burkian’.

I like how our GM hates Heatley. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

So. It follows that I love Burke, too.

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by article1 on Jun 17, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions