The Draft Board: Victor Hedman
by Chemmy on Jun 2, 2009 1:33 PM EDT
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PrintIn preparation for the NHL Draft, we're going to run down the top 15 players as ranked by the ISS and have our users vote for how good they think each player is to help us prepare our draft board. Since PPP doesn't write features for the site anymore I'm going back to back to bring you draft coverage. Up next the ISS #3, Victor Hedman.
6'6" and 225lbs at the age of 18, Victor Hedman is, to quote fellow Swede Borje Salming, a "big fellow". Roughly the size of Chris Pronger, Victor Hedman doesn't have a mean elbow or skate blade in his body. He's a silky skating goal scoring shutdown defenseman in the mold of Niklas Lidstrom, and that's why Hedman could go #1 overall if the Islanders decide against Tavares.
Hedman's been spending his time playing for MODO of the SEL which is a professional league for adults, not a junior league. In two seasons in the Elitserien Hedman has the following stat line:
| GP | G | A | Pts | +/- | PIM |
| 82 | 9 | 16 | 25 | 23 | 96 |
Not too shabby at all. He did however have a poor showing at the WJHC where it was rumored he was playing with a shoulder injury:
All the advance billing given to the 6-foot-6, 220-pounder put expectations in the stratosphere -- and try as he might, not even Hedman could reach them. In six games for Sweden, Hedman was a plus-4, but had just 2 assists and three minor penalties. He also was booed unmercifully by the Canadian crowd every time he touched the puck in the gold-medal game after throwing a punch at Team Canada forward Angelo Esposito.
So PPPers how good do you think Victor Hedman is? Weigh in on our poll and then defend yourselves in the comments.
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I’ve liked this one for a while.
And I am not just saying that because I now know what his abs look like.
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by Wrap Around Curl on Jun 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
You could do laundry on that stomach yowza
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I’ll boldly say he’ll be an all star…solely based on the fact that if Komisarek got into one, than this guy is going to be in several…if you meant end of season first and second team All Star, then I’m screwed. He might blossom into that, and definitely be at least a #3
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
If at his peak Hedman is only a #3 d-man I think you’d have to say picking him 2nd overall was a bad choice.
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true, whomever picks him doesn’t want a Phillips or a Redden, they want a Pronger
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember when Pronger was acquired at his draft,by Burke and company….the quote by one well respected scout was"they just traded the next Larry Robinson".If Hedman wants to aspire to being the next whoever,Robinson isn’t all that bad a choice.It all depends on who drafts him.He will be ruined in Long Island and possibly the same fate awaits in Tampa or Atlanta.Colorado may be in the market to trade up one spot if the Isles take Tavares first.
by wayne scarlett on Jun 2, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
problem is, Colorado doesn’t have GM right now
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
good point…which begs the question,how does Burke take advantage of that before someone else does?
by wayne scarlett on Jun 2, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
All-Star = Actual All-Star not all-star game.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s got all the tools, now he needs the opportunity to show them
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm saying All-Star
as he’s certainly got the skills to compete and I don’t think that whoever drafts him will be disapointed. He’s a sure fire lock to be dressing for an NHL club come October.
That said, as you’ve pointed out Chemmy, he bears a lot of resemblance to Pronger, perhaps Chara as well. He’s a big body who can skate and put up points, but he’s not “generational” given we’re seeing players of his ilk in the league already/still.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
He doesn’t have Pronger’s mean streak.
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he doesn't have:
Pronger’s nasty dirty streak, no.
Mean, I think so. He certainly played with some sandpaper at the juniors.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the mean streak hurts you in the European leagues, anyway. I think it could develop for him here.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno, don’t watch any SEL to say one way or the other.
What i do know is that when he was on the ice at the juniors, you knew he was there, and it wasn’t only because he was blocking out the sun. He hit hard, and some players adjusted their game to a more east west approach rather than barreling in on net when he was out there.
he changed the game, but again, he’s not the first d-man in the league to do that, and he won’t be the last. He’ll be great for sure, but a d-man has to be something more than great to be a “generational” talent.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
perhaps he could become a generational talent, but it’s way too difficult to pinpoint that in a defenseman, let alone before he’s even played one NHL game. If he is as smart as they say, and can think the game like Lidstrom, then yes, generational. But even aside from that, he seems to be a top pairing defenseman to start with.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I said Generational
I only saw him a bit but he skates amazingly well. Period. Not for a big guy but for any guy. I can see that he was injured during the WJHC and I am not that worried about his lack of mean streak since Lidstrom is neither big nor mean but is still top 5 defenceman of all time.
I love the skill set.
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he seemed a little whiney to me at the WJC……. which is neither here nor there on his talent level, but an observation.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his WJHC showing was definitely not optimal and that might push him down to 2nd or even 3rd given how well Matt Duchene’s been playing.
Keep in mind though, Tavares and Duchene play against teenagers. Hedman plays against grown men in Sweden’s top pro league.
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yes
his stats in Sweden are outstanding and to be honest if we were picking #1 I would want Burke to be pushing for him…..
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…I imagine a top pairing like Schenn and Hedman would make most NHLers* cry.
- especially Habs
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
We could probably follow him around and be jerks all day to develop his mean streak, too.
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he wouldn’t need a mean streak if he was playing with OLAS.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I give him 5 minutes in a room with Burke and Wilson, and Hedman becomes the biggest prick in the NHL not named Pronger
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Of his generation…maybe.But top 5 alltime? No. You would have to bump someone like Doug Harvey or Harry Howell or King Clancy or Eddie Shore,to be able to say that.And there is no way anyone can do that.
by wayne scarlett on Jun 2, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I never had the pleasure of seeing those guys play :(
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Three people selected “2nd pairing”. I wish they’d weigh in here. :\
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Me too!
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanna say it was me jsut to be confrontational, but I couldnt lie to you jammies!
look at that poonum!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 2, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
poonum???
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
it means face, dr evil says it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 2, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on who gets him.In Tampa or on the Island yes a top two.Anywhere else,they let the kid develope slowly.
by wayne scarlett on Jun 2, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
I would like to express my appreciation for the beefcake photo.
Anyone have his personal trainer’s phone #?
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
my husband’s appreciation?
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I just learned two things.
1. PPPers like Tavares more than Hedman so far.
2. Hedman is ranked #3 by the ISS, so we’ll do #2 tomorrow. Whoops.
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Whoops!
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s fallen to #3? Wow.
Duschene is a completely blank slate for me so I have no idea how I’ll vote tomorrow.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
mini sweet cheeks is a heck of player…I don’t imagine the team that gets him will be disappointed. I still think the other two guys have more upside.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
did you see him much in Brampton?
What kind of opposition did he face, playing on the same team as Hodgson?
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
didn’t see much, but I have seen clips of battalon games. Hodgson faces all the big guys, so he gets tier two, but he’s still a very good player and I think he will make a top line NHLer. Not sure he will live up to Joe Sakic comparisons, but he’ll be a fine player for whomever gets him.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
wait Duchene plays on Brampton’s second line?
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yes
Hodgson is their #1 center and was voted the best player in the OHL (or was it CHL?) this year.
This is why I have questions about Duschene.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that seems pretty damn important to me.
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No kidding
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still shocked that Matt Stajan’s cousin Thomas plays centre for the Battalion…
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't
Wellwood’s brother play for the Spitfires?
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he does. VROOM!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 2, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Duchene is a stud who idolized Sakic growing up.He has said that is where he wants to go,not that he has much say in the matter.
by wayne scarlett on Jun 2, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The folks at Mile High Hockey are pretty excited.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Was going to tell you but didn’t want to spoil the party.
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Definitely point out Chemmy’s shortcomings. Helps keep him humble®.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Notice how no one is banging the door down demanding you write articles?
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I must have missed all of those comments at the Darcy Tucker Fan Club asking for more vulgar photoshops.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That post shows up on the front page of google for “jason blake sucks”.
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Were the poll options clear enough for you today?
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Um… I didn’t get it wrong yesterday either.
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I don’t know about any of the other guys and gals, but if a player gets favourably compared to Lidstrom, easily a top 5 defenceman to ever play in the NHL, I’m more than okay if Hedman isn’t like Pronger.
Supporter of the Sergei Berezin "Give and Go" - You give me puck, then you go to hell
But I like it when Pronger smashes people. :(
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Schenn can smash people while Hedman silkily steals the puck away.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
but
there’s no way we’re getting Hedman… if he doesn’t go #1, Tampa will take him for sure.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Tampa is taking a forward, they don’t have enough already.
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please, Tampa is drafting a bag of pucks and a box of oreos, because they have no clue there’s even a draft happening
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think they’re leaning towards picking Vincent Lecavalier for the draft. I hear he’s the Michael Jordan of hockey.
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they put up some billboards and were thinking about hiring Pierre McGuire, because they love his mullet.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh wait
isn’t one of the owner’s sons draft eligible this year?
They’ll be picking him, then.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s 2nd round
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He went on the record saying he’d like to be drafted, but not by his dad’s team just because of his dad.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 2, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it more if Pronger smashes himself, but hey, each his own. Besides, that “temper” of his nearly cost him his career and led to his departure from Hartford.
Ah, sorry for bringing back a reference to the Whale, Chemmy.
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Have you ever been to Hartford? There’s not a lot to do besides pick up DUIs and start barroom brawls.
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Wait a minute, Leafs D Stralman is already the next Lidstrom…doesn’t that make Hedman the next Stralman?
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Are you implying that Anton Stralman isn’t 80% as good as Nik Lidstrom?
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Hockey SAT Question.
If Stralman is 80% as good as Lidstrom how much better than Stralman does Hedman have to be in order to be 100% as good as Lidstrom?
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25%
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
42
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, you wanted the percentage derived from the 80%, not added to the 80%.
Gotcha
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
As clear as
a Chemmy Poll
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
42 is the answer to everything.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
bingo
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
But what is the question???
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
damn…we’ll need to build a bigger computer for that
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct answer was C) 110%
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But no one can give more than 100%. 100% is the most anyone can give.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
42
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t matter. It’s always 42.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
From Wikipedia:
Pronger was selected second overall by the Hartford Whalers in the 1993 NHL Entry Draft, behind Alexandre Daigle, who made the infamous statement, “I’m glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two.”
Daigle. lol
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bahhahaha
that’s priceless
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Such an important Senator they designed their old secondary logo to look like him
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Wiki answers: What is a Daigle?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
possibly the french translation
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Paging Nurse Daigle, Nurse Daigle we need your help with a colostomy bag.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
On numerous PPP comment-inspired occassions I have gone searching for a copy of the Daigle as nurse hockey card and I have always come up blank. It needs to be kept on file just as Karina keeps Chemmy’s ‘Oh snap’ .gif handy…
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that, sir, is full win!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and is a prime example of why the Sens are full of fail….
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it was on the front page of the Ottawa Sun.
I also know a Leaf fan that only reads the Ottawa Sun the day after the Sens get eliminated from the playoffs.
Very funny.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s got to be the Sad Trombone edition.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It is usually their lousy sports writers ‘Report Card’
Nothing better than a bunch of bandwagoners trashing their team.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the image Blurr, but it was my understanding that the image was actually part of a hockey card set that featured Daigle in various get-ups (fireman, nurse, etc.)
I’d love to find the hockey card version.
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Probably bought back by the senators and buried in the desert.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 2, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
1990 or 91 full set Upper Deck.You can find them as singles at that big card store on John Street at King? if it is still there.
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That card store is still there. I may have to pop in next time I’m in the hood. Can’t imagine the look I’ll get if I buy a single card of Daigle in a nurse uniform.
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Buy me one. I’ll put it next to my Billy Ripken card.
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Top Two worst quotations ever.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll bite… what’s the other one?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Alfie’s Guarantee
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't Alfie
the next Messier?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Although I am fairly certain that Messier never wore a TuTu
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
But Messier did wear an extremely short towel over his waist while sitting near Gary Coleman,
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And he can’t eat just one
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And Gatorade will bring both him, and the cup, to your house!
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was just called ‘G’ now. Didn’t get the memo?
Altho as per the commercial, I don’t think Gordie Howe ever drank Gatorade in his life
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
G is an offshoot of Gatorade.
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Must suck, being 7 letters less and all.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
but the G is bigger
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful, Gatorade will get a complex, G-envy
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be awaiting more of these commercials. G-Spots if you will. And this time, I won’t be lying when I say I’ve seen a particular G-spot.
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by bkblades on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That’s a rec
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
he's just
copying Ron McLean…
G now sponsors Don Cherry’s segment, and the first one they sponsored Ron concluded with a statement about their “G spot”
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Admission time: I haven’t watched a minute of the Stanley Cup finals except for the second period of Game One. I haven’t been a very good hockey fan lately.
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that’s a paddlin’
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
fair enough, it is a rather uninspiring series…
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by Karina on Jun 2, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/a/alfreda01.html
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I went with first line pairing. Mostly because whichever team gets him (Isles/Lightning) will most likely ruin the first 3-4 years of his career.
At least until someone else buys the team and moves them/fixes management.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
I would say more Lightning than Islanders. At least the management of the Isles are stable (Gordon as coach, Snow as GM), even if ownership has its problems.
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i think ownership has sorted out it’s own problems by realizing it can run the team by committee. it’s main issue now is in regards to it’s stadium and cash flow problems.
Charles Wang may be a special kind of crazy, but that guy is committed to keeping that team afloat.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Charles Wang may be a special kind of crazy, but that guy is committed to keeping that team afloat.
Not for long though.
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Props for the name ‘Wang’, tho
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
no. one can only lose millions after millions of dollars before the process gets stale i imagine.
the ball is in Nassau county’s court though. He’s got every right to be asking for a new stadium. The horror stories you read about that place…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Like “the Islanders play there.”
Scary
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s the slogan on the building
Mee-Mee-Meep Meep Go Leafs Go Meep Meep! MEEP!!!
by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It should be “Sorry, The Islanders Play Here”
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 2, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
next season…with a picture of Emo Tavares realizing this is his future
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 2, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Wang even wants money from the city/town/whatever, he just wants them to re-zone some land that he’ll buy so he can put down a new arena, shopping mall, office space and apartments.
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wow...
really?
if that’s the case then he’s better than most owners. heaven forbid you let the guy develop an area…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 2, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The main problem appears to be the environmental impact and the fact that the Town of Hampstead has a lazy person in charge (Kate Murray) of the project.
Wang doesn’t want any money he just wants permission to get going on a 10 year infrastructure project.
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by PPP on Jun 2, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
all depends on the Lighthouse developement.If it goes through Wang stays on as owner …if not KC here they come.
by wayne scarlett on Jun 2, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Bergman is Toronto’s main European scout. Do you know who else he likes or mentioned? Does Borje Salming promise underwear to all Swedish prospects drafted/signed by Toronto?
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Also I know y’all love Pronger, but he is like too much of an asshole to even function.
(843): the red head has a bf
(1-843): just because there's a goalie doesn't mean u can't score
by Wrap Around Curl on Jun 2, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
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