2009 NHL Free Agency: What The Toronto Maple Leafs Might Do
Someday I'll have to shake the hand of the guy that decided that it made sense to schedule the draft three days before the start of free agency. It's not like this day is so important that it's a national holiday in Canada. As a conversation starter because I still have a tonne of draft stuff to come I have a short cheat sheet to help us with a starting point.
Pending UFAs: Martin Gerber, Brad May, Bates Battaglia, Andre Deveaux, Boyd Devereaux, Jeff Hamilton, Kris Newbury, Ben Ondrus, Jay Harrison, Erik Reitz, Jamie Heward, Curtis Joseph, Olaf Kolzig, Jaime Sifers (Thanks Mirtle!)
Calling this a list of notable free agents would have been insulting to players like Eric Christensen. From that list I could see Boyd "SchennBlocker" Devereaux, Brad May, and one of Kris Newbury or Ben Ondrus getting re-signed. The first two would be great veteran influences on the younger players and the latter two could fill up roster space while kids learn on the farm.
Pending RFAs: Mikhail Grabovski, Jaime Sifers (NHL Numbers has him as an RFA and Hockey Buzz as a UFA. I am looking into this), Phil Oreskovic, Tim Stapleton, Jeremy Williams, Ryan Hollweg
Justin Poggegot qualified today so he's not on this list. I am actually pretty surprised that guys like Sifers and Oreskovic have not been qualified. Hollweg is gone and we'll never know what that fifth rounder could have brought. Other than knowing it wasn't going to be a European. Williams seems to not be a Wilson favourite, he's not good enough to play on the top two lines when the team is good again and he's past the stage where he should have established himself. We'll always have the 82 goals/season projections!
Based on my inability to find any news thus far I don't think any of the other guys have been qualified. Grabovski is likely going to arbitration which I think will mark the end of his time in Toronto. I get the sense that Burke will move him if he goes that route.
Salary cap space (courtesy NHL Numbers): $13-million
Now, if you look at NHL Numbers the Leafs have some ridiculous cap relief coming online after next season. They only have $18M committed. On the flip side, they only have five guys signed but one of them is Luke Schenn so I think that means that only need to sign a goalie. Either way, there are a couple of ways that Burke can approach this free agency period.
Scenario One
He can fill out the roster with the myriad of RFAs that are getting axed left and right or the lower end of the free agency pool. Burke would then keep any of the kids that cannot play in their proper role on the team with the Marlies. This would be akin to the Red Wings' policy of developing kids in Grand Rapids but with our NHL team stocked with scrubs and waiver-tied prospects instead of Hall of Famers. This one is tough because the idea would be to have UFAs on one year deals so that the cap space is still available next year.
Scenario Two
This is the one Burke has said that he wants to pursue but he also wanted to trade for more first rounders at the deadline and for Tavares and Schenn at the draft. So far he's 0-for-2 (and I'll have a post about why that's not entirely his fault) so even then there's no guarantee that this will work. This strategy can work long-term if he makes the right decisions. Mike Komisarek at $4m-$5M is a bad move. The Sedins at $5.25M is a great move. We'll see how much he has to overpay to get players to come to Toronto.
Projected budget: $56.8-million less $1. Whether he spends to it will be a function of the UFAs' receptiveness to his deal.
Key needs: Everything is the short answer. The longer one is that the Leafs' most pressing need is their goaltending situation. James Reimer and Justin Pogge will hold down the fort with the Marlies but Vesa Toskala is coming off of three major surgeries. If Burke really thinks that this team can make the playoffs he needs a competent backup.
In terms of defence, the Leafs have two years of Kaberle, one of Kubina and Van Ryn, and then 20 of Luke Schenn. After that, they'll need to look at how to replace Kubina and Kaberle. If they can do it this summer then they can cash in those assets. If all of the king's men and all of the king's horses put Van Ryn together again properly over the weekend even he might get something for the Leafs. Or he could be part of the team going forward. Burke, however, is really loathe to let Kaberle go. I am hoping that by the deadline Burke gets his doors blown off by a deal.
Looking at the forwards, there is obviously a dearth of skill forwards that are NHL-calibre. There are guys that have the potential to fill that role at some point but no one is a sure bet. I hear that there are a couple of interesting ginger twins available...
Potential targets: It might be easier to list who isn't a target. Take one part cap space, add a dollop (actually, more like a cup) of Burkian hubris, a pound of media speculation, mix well, and you get every big-ticket player being linked to the Leafs. Daniel Sedin and Henrik Sedin are getting their retirement plan from the Leafs. Francois Beauchemin, Travis Meon, and Samuel Pahlssonare being re-united with their former GM. Jonas Gustavsson is coming over to be the next Henrink Lundqvist while Mike Cammalleri is going to live up to the expectations that come with a 40% raise. I look forward to watching him score 60 goals a year for five years.
As I noted above, there are two scenarios and it sure looks like Burke is going through door number two. I think that the Sedins are going to be his main target. I've heard The Monster is ready to be unveiled July 1 and I would imagine that Burke looks at Beauchemin. The rumours of Komisarek and Chris Neil sicken me so I will pretend that I've never heard of them.
What our rivals want:
Colorado Avalanche: A real starting goalie and defence that can keep the puck out of the net. Also, a new medical staff to keep their players in one piece.
LA Kings: A sniper to play with their young forwards and a defensive defenceman.
Atlanta Thrashers: Defence and goaltending. The only year they made the playoffs was the one year that they weren't in the bottom 4 or 5 of the league in goals against.
NY Islanders: I'll tell you what they don't need: a franchise scorer (sigh). Other than that, they could use a goalie on a 15 year contract that actually plays hockey, and defencemen.
Phoenix Coyotes: A new owner. Zing! Actually, as Godd Till noted in a private e-mail, they need to get a new coach in order to escape from the mad clutches of the Friends of Gretzky. Did you know that the best man from his wedding, Eddie Mio, is the Director of Player Development and his brother Keith is the Head Scout. Failing that they could use some veteran leadership since the average age of that team is about 12.
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Under Scenario One, Burke could sign scrubs, waiver rejects and cagey vets to multi-year deals and then just waive them to the Marlies in a year or two as room for prospects/UFAs is required…
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he might keep the term short on any of those players (1-2 years) as well. he seems to project a sharp decline in cap room in 2010-11 with the CBA re-opened the next season I think.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 29, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
True
He did mention that he was perfectly willing to stash salary in the minors if he had to during his post-draft scrum. That was in response to a question from I can only assume Howard Berger who has been so worried about those 17 players under contract.
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Since when have the Coyotes become a rival?? Oh right. Since our “coach” “high-sticked” some guy or something… Seriously. Anyone wants him we’ll trade you for 15 miilion and a bunch of 1st round picks.
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ahahhah…not even edmonton would pay that much for Gretz
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 29, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when have the Coyotes become a rival??
since they moved to Hamilton…
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Ha. Ha.
We’re not friends anymore.
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by Travis Hair on Jun 29, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Those are the rivals for Taylor Hall.
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Tank for Taylor!!!1
Heinous for Hall!!!1
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by blurr1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of our UFA/RFA I wanna see Oreskovic, Grabs, Pogge (QUALIFIED!), Deveaux and Harrison back.
To be signed – One name: CAMMALLERI!! That’s all I care about.
Disappointed since 1984
one trick pony, scoring lots on a contract year. if he came cheap than yes.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 29, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I have had a man cruch since he was drafted with THE LEAFS pick. I wanna see him wear Blue and White, he wants to wear Blue and White, goddamit MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Disappointed since 1984
for $6 million cap hit= do not want.
for $5 million or less maybe.
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I doubt he settles for 5 a year…some one will pay more
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 29, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafer is the fact that he’s a fellow Italian have anything to do with you wanting him?
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why? so he can score 39 goals in the regular season,and then disappear in the playoffs? Oh,wait…he alreadt did that.
by wayne scarlett on Jun 30, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Cammalleri
True story – he’s awesome.
the end.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
i do what i can…
If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way. - Homer
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by blurr1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
also...
a pro tip.
Beer and ice cream don’t go well together.
If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way. - Homer
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by blurr1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Cammalleri is my #1 target.. he’s young and can score, we have neither.
by hallandnash on Jun 30, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s also demanding way too much.
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you're demanding way too much!!!!
despite what you’ve read, hockey games, are in fact, a goal scoring competition. Cammalleri will help with that, in bunches…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
haha…Damn Cox is confusing me.
I just don’t think he’s worth $6 million.
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yes…scoring goals good…getting paid 6mill to do it is too much for a guy that will float around 30 goals most seasons
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
other 30 goal scorers:
who make about the same or more coin
Iginla
Gagne
Marleau
Crosby
Perry
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Iginla and Crosby are faaaar more complete players
Gagne and Marleau are apt comparisons
Perry is a bunch more truculent and rat faced
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
my point being
30 goals is not as common and cheap to come by as one thinks…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
course not, thats why we should keep poni
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
....?
the same Poni who’s never eclipsed 25 goals? That guy? The one who’s not going to ever get any better?
Or are you saying, with the Sedins Poni is a 30 goal man, in which case, you’d rather spend $13M to get 30 goals, than spending $6M…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
im saying that Poni had his best season ever last year, and his production will not be so easily replaced
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
30 goals isn’t common but out of that list they all bring miles more to the team that Cammalleri.
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and
with the exception of Perry, they’ve all got quite a few more seasons under their belt.
I smell east coast bias! that’s what this is!
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
well the west certianly and the best
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
GRBRZRKR!!!
Totally forgot about him. If the Leafs can’t land the Monster is there any chance they’d re-sign Gerber or is he for sure gonzo?
by general borschevsky on Jun 29, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
gb-
Now this is interesting, seeing as we a backup, even if we sign The Monster.
I distinctly remember a quote from Kolzig last season wherein he stated how much he wanted to play for the Leafs. Also, from another PPP thread, this.
I think it would be a blast to have a super-healthy Eagle around for cheap for a year. “Eddie!!! Eddie!!!”.
One of those 3 should be given a nice little gift for one year.
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by kidkawartha on Jun 29, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
totally...
nothing says “moving forward” like signing washed up players to retirement contracts!
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by blurr1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, now, blurr. :)
I just think next year is going to be a bit of a DMZ for us regarding cracking the playoffs because of the pending cap drop. I hear Burkie saying he’s going to spend to the cap, but I’m just not sure if he means it or what he actually means. I’m starting to think a lot about what it would take to get Taylor Hall next year and another one or two first rounders as I’m not interested in anything but a well-placed thought-out path to the Leafs being a truly awesome team in 3 or 4 years. I’m having the hardest time figuring out where the team REALLY is for next year- much of our draft haul is two or three years away, a lot of UFA/RFAs won’t be signed, our defence might still be pretty rough for another year at least. Even goaltending is still a big question mark with the Monster if he signs- first season of NHL game sched and all that with another goalie. What do you think? Remember I absolutely detest even the thought of tanking.
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by kidkawartha on Jun 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
we're not tanking
we’re just not that good.
Those are my thoughts, wholly and completely. We have pieces in place to get better, but as you state, they are all still a few years away. I really have zero qualms with sucking even worse than last year, watching a roster of plugs skate around and hit anything that moves. if a goal or two goes in for the Leafs in the process, so be it.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we’ll be better. Hopefully the playoffs. We’ve already tanked. I see us building from the bottom up, which is good, but we’re not going to win a championship overnight. It’ll be a slow, gradual rebuild where we improve year by year until we’re a perpetual contender. Making the playoffs won’t hurt “the plan”. Might even be part of it.
by general borschevsky on Jun 29, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll conccede
it’s entirely possible we’ll be better. it’s also entirely possible a few other teams will be better as well, especially the ones that finished below us (LA in particular should be MUCH improved next season.)
I just won’t be disappointed in another losing season, because what we’ve got, ain’t that great right now…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be a fun year. Mean, moderately fast, a new team ethos and spirit developing. The last of the Muskoka five long gone. The Monster’s highlight reel as a Leaf starting. The broken and bleeding bodies of Eastern Conference players laying in our wake, particularly Habs and Sens as we go 10-for-12 against those two teams and 40% wins against everyone else. ManGrabsLemon again maybe. And with some strategic trades and and another top-ten draft finish, a possible shot at the franchise in the person of Hall.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Jun 29, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean Eddie wants to move out of the ACC!?!?
Has he run out of Thunderbird?
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by article1 on Jun 29, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+7
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Jun 29, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Craig Anderson is my pick if the Monster lands elsewhere
by wayne scarlett on Jun 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Despite Burkie’s chatter about the playoffs this season, I think he is very carefully positioning us for the cap drop next year. I don’t think he’s going to sign much of anything for more than a year, with maybe one exception.
I’m not that concerned right at the present with our goal production, I’m more concerned with the day-to-day overall development of our D and goaltending.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
RFAs
The past few years it’s been tough to find out which Leaf players have been qualified. It’s too bad there wasn’t a bigger media contingent in this town covering the Leafs.
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The Sedins are looking for Zetterberg-type contracts. Even though they aren’t nearly as good and very few teams are going to give out one contract like that this year. Either this story is way off the mark; or the twins need all that money to pay someone to mop up the drool coming out of their mouths.
Barry did not want to discuss specific details of their negotiations, but it’s believed the Canucks’ last offer to each twin was for five years with a salary just north of $5.5 million a year on average. The twins’ last offer, as we reported last week in Las Vegas, was a whopping 12-year deal that averaged out at $5.33 million a year, although it was front-loaded to average around $7 million a season over the first nine years.
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um, eyebleaf, I hate to be this guy but if you’re going to post it and try to sell the rest of us on it, shouldn’t your post read: Sedins!!!!!!1
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possibly. They’d be a massive upgrade and make us competative right away…. but then I’d have to go back on so many things I said about them.
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by Karina on Jun 29, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The Sedins scare me .. but if you look at the numbers and their age ti’s very appealing. Would you be happy if the Leafs could sign say, Thorton and Kovalchuk ? .. This is the same thing numbers wise.
by hallandnash on Jun 30, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
considering they arnt a package and would probably be easier to trade down the line, then yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The problem with Cammalleri
is that he scores goals, and as we were all told by Cox today, it’s not a goal scoring competition. If he was also able to slam dunk and run the 40m in 4 seconds, then we could talk about tendering him a multi-million dollar contract. Until then, I’ll stick with my final offer of one million a year.
Usain Bolt!!!!!1
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actually last I looked, the most goals wins .. so it is a goal scoring competition.
by hallandnash on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i think
you’re missing the joke…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
why does
Sifers name now have a line through it?
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by Karina on Jun 29, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
He’s not actually an RFA. Turns out he is a Group VI free agent.
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Well
It was a great website until he let HockeyBuzz host it…
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oh
I see now. UFA. I really liked him…. I would like to see Oreskovic back too.
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by Karina on Jun 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If i had to choose, I think I choose Oreskovic over Sifers. The Leafs will probably have to let one of them go with the number of bodies at the back end.
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yeah
I like Big Phil and he seems to have a great work ethic…. putting in extra time to work on his skating. I’m sure he’s been working on it this summer too
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
From MLHS, Joel Ward is available- any thoughts?
Big, local boy, has paid his dues and his points are climbing. Reminds me of Poni a bit.
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Plus, Camalleri reputedly just bought two condos in T.O.- one for his father and one for himself. He might, just might, give us a “local” discount.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
it’s gotta be a home town discount for him to come. Burke is not betting the farm on him
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
His family lives down in King City so any condo buying is not a surprise.
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That actually sounds like a good option.
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My hunch is, despite what people think, Burke won’t be after the Sedins. Since he’s talked a lot about pursuing toughness among free agents, I think he’s more likely to go after Beauchemin (bet the Habs will be after him, too). As long as he doesn’t go after Bertuzzi, too…
I think he’ll be in on Bouwmeester too, but it’s likely JB goes to a Western team.
I’d like to see him go after Camalleri too, but I think he’ll be such a hot commodity that he’ll end up with a contract like Briere got a couple of years ago.
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I’m almost sure Burke will be after the Sedins only because of human nature making it hard for people to give up on ideas they previously had.
It was why JFJ wanted Raycroft because he had recommendeded drafting him while with the Blues.
It’s why the Sabres still stick to their slugs sweater even though their retro jersey is far more popular. It’s why Todd Bertuzzi still gets paid to play in the NHL.
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Thanks for joining.
Don’t even joke about Bertuzzi ;)
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your an idiot stevebirnie…. of course they want toughness but he isn’t going to just want toughness, you need finesse players to win a championship if your actually a leafs fan you will remember he said top six “skilled players” not tough and bottom six tough players he still wants skilled players too which is a need on the leafs, the sedins or camelerri would fill that void
by Leafsfan3113 on Jun 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Steveb’s not an idiot, just a guy with an opinion. A well-thought out one, too, I might add. And his sentence structure was well organized and not a long rambling non-sensical incoherent sentence that never ended. Name calling should either be really funny or really ironic, or better yet, don’t bother and stick to the subject.
Also, I think Burke would like everyone to toughen up.
“We have a passive group. All year long, when a trainer was on the ice – it was always our trainer– that really bothered me”
by general borschevsky on Jun 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you're new as well
Welcome.
As the general has kindly pointed out, name calling is only fun when it’s funny.
Varying opinions are welcome here (see eyebleaf’s unmitigated man crush on Mats Sundin for one example…) and that means yours to. Feel free to state your case, and welcome a difference of opinion.
Thanks!
PS – Couldn’t agree more, with the both of you. Burke wants top 6 forwards and he wants everyone to toughen up. I don’t think it means one extreme or the other, just different than the season we just saw.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the welcome. I’ve actually read the blog off an on for quite a while, just never posted before.
I understand what you’re saying about the Sedin’s, furcifer, I just don’t think Burke is going to go down that road. The way he’s been talking about adding toughness, I think he’s more likely to pursue more rough n ready guys he’s picked up before, like Beauchemin or (God help us) Bertuzzi.
And Wayne, I have to say, having Bertuzzi nb Blue and White would tempt me to turn in my season tickets.
Season Tickets?
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Yup, turn them in… Step over to my office here to do that (steps into a public washroom stall)
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