Habs acquire Gomez
Chemmy edit: Habs trade Chris Higgins, Ryan McDonagh, Doug Janik and Pavel Valentenko to the Rangers for Scott Gomez, Tom Pyatt and Mike Busto.
Ryan McDonagh is the Habs' best prospect, from Hockey's Future:
"McDonagh has it all and is expected to play a key role in the Canadiens' fortunes for the next decade. If not a number-one blueliner, he would be considered a 1A, with the talent to easily stake a long-term claim on the first defensive pairing."
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This is a salary dump for the rangers, and a number one center for the Habs. Honestly, a good move…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
On Twitter, Sean Leahy is wondering if this is to make room for Heatley?
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he might be on to something…but I wonder what the package is for Heatley. I think it re-opens the Antropov option too, if the Heatley thing isn’t a go
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
its a good deal for all parties to be honest, which I don’t like at all. Sather dumps one of his bad contracts. The Habs get a top six forward for a 3rd liner forced into a top six spot.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this fill too much salary for the Habs to get Vinny…because I imagine their fans would rather have him
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
Gomez gets $7.3M per season, straight up. Same cap hit every year until something like 2015…
Not sure how Lecavalier’s contract is structured, but honestly, wouldn’t any team rather have Vinny over Gomez?
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
How the hell did the rangers manage to get rid of that?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 30, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i was
and yes it is
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…I think he hoodwinked Gainey
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I was as well. Good trade by Sather. I thought Gomez was unmovable.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 30, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions
any idea how many players do they have signed for next year?
nhl numbers is over capacity right now, so I can’t access to see…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
nevermind
finally connected.
The habs have 15 players signed, none of which were involved in this trade, so now I guess he’s got 18 signed and still has some cap room.
Higgins is an RFA, so I wonder if the Rangers even bother to qualify him? I’m becoming more and more amazed this trade passed muster with the league.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
if they do, which of the Leafs’ RFAs do we deal for a large contract to “help” a team tight up against the cap?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
i love when these trades happen.
Zero reporting in the media before hand.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
yeah…surprise trades are great…in 30 minutes the rumour of this deal will get an (e5)
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
funny enough
after Leahey posts that off the cuff Twitter comment, Eklund tweets Heatley to the Rangers )e4)
So now we know where Dwayne gets his “sources”
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
better than the voices in his head I guess?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
More details:
To the Habs:
Gomez
Pyatt
Busto (?)
To the Rangers:
Higgins
McDonagh
Valentenko
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
AHHHHH
I could not stay away… man… Gomez + Kovalev: both love to hold on to the puck. This isn’t going to go well for the Habs. HA
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking the opposite. Gomez Feeding Kovalev sounds kind of scary to me. Kovalev likes to dangle, but with a guy like Gomez being able to feed him all season long…?
i’m mildly disturbed…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
both guys are hot and cold kind of guys…if they are going, yeah that would suck for teams playing them. but if they are off, welcome to dysfunctional city!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan McDonagh is their best prospect. Mike Busto isn’t listed on Hockey’s Future. Ho-lee shit Gainey’s stupid.
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the Habs also shipped a guy named Doug Janik to the Rangers in the deal
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Busto is a 11 point player from the ECHL…obviously Gainey sees superstar!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
Did Gainey think that he was the one dumping salary? How does he trade away their best defensive prospect the same day he gives up on Komisarek?
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desparation is the new slogan for the Habs
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Were you not watching last year?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no no…that was DESPARATION!!!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 30, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the same question I had, as well. I cannot believe there was no draft pick coming to the Habs. They must really think highly of PK Subban,
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Quick, offer Jason Blake + parts for Koivu + Subban! DO IT!
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed. do it fast
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
uh
Koivu’s a UFA…. can’t we weate 20hrs and sign him for free?
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t matter! Just to make the trade look like it’s trading for the big names.
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhhh
smart one, you are
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
and we lose the hamster’s contract!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That way we get Subban and dump blake’s salary all in one go! woo!
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i still can’t believe the league approved this…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs weren't involved
but their 2 favourite teams were, so of course it’s approved
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
if we did this, the league would strip the Leafs of all 2010 draft picks
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No reason to tank, then.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the year the Leafs tank correctly, is the year the rules for the draft lottery change
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what’s the penalty for going over the cap?
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs = death or massive fine to fund poor revenue teams
All others = slap on wrist
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why wouldn’t the league approve this? Do you really want the NHL front office micromanaging the propriety of trades? They let the Leafs eat a whole bunch of dead TBL salary just so they could pick up another draft pick, why would they stop Gainey from making a bone-headed trade?
Why Wouldn't the League Approve This?
Because this:
They let the Leafs take all that salary on so Tampa would meet its requirements to earn revenue-sharing, but took away an equivalent pick because the Frogren deal was considered illegal (even though the issue was settled in November and he was allowed to play for the Leafs all season).
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Um, they (completely unfairly) stripped Toronto of that very pick, Fehr. AND did not penalize Tampa in any way for their involvement………
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They still didn’t veto the trade outright, but I see why Leafs fans would be pissed. No reason to let them eat the salary but not keep the pick. I’m the last person you will ever find defending the NHL front office, hence the reason I don’t want them micromanaging trades. I’d rather just let GMs do their thing, with the occasional bad trade, than let the NHL office make determinations regarding the “fairness” of trades.
I can’t believe you said that…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, how about we change “i cant believe this was allowed to happen” into “i cant believe there was no punishment taken against the Habs!”
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I think the NHL punished the Leafs for unfairly gaining an advantage. I wonder how the punishment would look for unfairly sand-bagging your own team. Would they force the Habs to take an extra 2nd round pick in compensation?
so the leafs take on a bunch of useless players who will in no way ever help them, loose a half decent prospect for a 4th rounder which is anything but a guarentee and the habs take on a potential 30 goal 40 assist man who could help them out greatly at the center position where they are notably weak, abit with a giant contract and the Habs are the sandbagged ones?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the Habs threw in a top prospect for absolutely no reason. I thought that was the original complaint with the trade. The Leafs may have taken a financial hit but the deal with TBL didn’t have much of an impact in terms of hockey product. I don’t think either deal is really a problem, I’m not trying to defend how it all worked out. I’m just saying there is zero reason that the league should get involved with this current trade.
and there was zero they should have gotten involved in the Leafs trade, which they did, it was a mock serious comparison
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Leafs unfarly gained an advantage through the Frogren contract, why was he allowed to play for the Leafs all season until right after the Tampa trade? And the league and the PA settled the contract issue back in November.
Either the contract was illegal all along, in which case Frogren never should have been allowed to play for the Leafs, or the contract was legal, in which case we were indirectly penalized for taking salary from the Lightning in that deal.
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It’s my understanding that Frogren was allowed to play last season because the NHLPA grieved the NHL’s decision to veto the contract (similar to a player being allowed to play if a team/NHLPA greieve a suspension).
Unfortunately, it was ultimately determined that the Frogren bonus payment contravened the CBA and the Leafs were fined $500K and a 4th round pick.
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McGran never wrote his article explaining the situation did he?
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Sadly no. I would have to conclude he couldn’t get the info. Having seen the NHL constitution (Thanks Balsillie!) and the powers of the Commissioner to arbitrarily punish teams, it’s not surprising that the Leafs wouldn’t provide further comment.
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Again, I’m not defending the NHL I’m just saying there is no reason they should take any action with respect to the Gomez trade.
i didn’t say they should, my point was that they approved it to begin with.
Higgins, as an RFA, is the main piece of this deal. There is also the top ranked prospect.
If Higgins doesn’t sign tomorrow, then this is a $7M a year centerman for a prospect. That sounds out of whack to me. Especially when the league stated it didn’t like the TBL/TOR trade…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a bad trade because of Gomez’s contract but it’s not unreasonable. The NHL was mad that the Leafs took on the contracts of guys that had season ending injuries in return for an extra mid-round draft pick. I think it was all inconsequential ultimately but I can see why the league wouldn’t want that behavior to be repeated. This is a trade of players for players; even if it’s bad I don’t see why the NHL would step in. They watched TBL completely devalue Dan Boyle and did nothing. Why would they step in here.
A season ending injury is quite the same as an unsigned RFA on the eve of free agency, don’t you think?
And you keep saying “step in.” The league HAS to approve all trades, they’re already involved, and already stepped in. And it’s still NOT my point.
The optics of this trade reek. I’m a fan of neither team, and quite frankly, if MTL wants to take on an anchor of a contract, more power to them. I just find it hard to believe that someone working in the league office saw this contract and didn’t think it looked awfully unbalanced, like a straight salary dump.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So should the Bouwmeester trade be voided? How about the trade for Malone’s rights last year? Rights get traded all the time… because they have value… especially an RFA situation where you don’t just get negotiating rights but you get the right of first refusal. You don’t have to like the trade but it’s not nakedly one-sided or done for financial reasons (not the financial reasons that upset the NHL with the TOR/TBL trade).
if you think this was a trade for Higgins rights, then you’re absolutely right.
It wasn’t, but whatever…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And they approve trades just to make sure both teams actually want the trades to happen and to make it official (see DGB’s Brian Burke Mic’d up post for an example of why). They are not supposed to be micromanaging trades determining the relative value of the returns. The league has never played that role, and shouldn’t start now. Approving the trade by certifying that the paperwork is in order is different from stepping in and being involved in the trade. The Church says “I now pronounce you man and wife” but doesn’t tell you who you have to Marry.
hahaha...
DGB’s satirical column is most definitely a resource used to determine league bylaws..
you crack me up.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you missed my point with the DGB reference. It’s the interwebs, this post will be here for all eternity (until the nuclear Armageddon).
no, i got it
it’s still funny…
Anyhoo, my whole point is the optics of this trade makes me wonder why this trade as allowed to pass. I assumed you understood that I was referring to (as lot’s of folks here did) the leagues need to comment on and involve themselves in the TBL/TOR trade. In essence Bettmann felt it prudent to state that the TBL/TOR trade stunk and he didn’t like it. This trade, which is a salary dump (and if you say otherwise you’re HIGHLY overvaluing Higgins) is quite similar to the aforementoined trade that was so rotten, the commish needed to get involved.
You, as a Caps fan (I can only assume, btw, Fehr is awesome…serious, love him) don’t see that as an issue. It’s no big deal when anyone, league or otherwise (such as yourself) involves themselves in the Leafs business. Given that this is an MTL/NYR trade, it’s their business. And so, no one really feels compelled to point out the same thing as they did in the TOR/TBL trade. It’s a salary dump, and it stinks.
I’ve yet to stick my nose into MTL or NYR message boards, because I don’t care. I’ve seen the comments on a habs board (which basically boil down to their assumption this is the coming apocalypse) but since it doesn’t really involve the Leafs, oh well. I don’t really feel compelled to get involved.
However, history has shown us that if the Leafs were involved, so would everyone else, including the league offices, and quite possibly a Caps fan or two. :)
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Preaching to the choir
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 30, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I seem to recall NJD trading someone to SJ to free up cap sapce. A trade the league deemed illegal, and vetoed. Names escape me, but it happens.
but that wasn’t my point.
it’s the Commissioner’s job (and the League) to ensure trades are fair and equitable for both sides, and not a simple movement of cash for players. It’s in the League’s bylaws.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it was Malakhov (sp?) from NJD to SJ for a first round pick and the trade was allowed to stand.
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you’re correct, I’m thinking of the Korolyuk trade, or were those related? I’m like, 98% certain the Korolyuk trade was vetoed.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Malakhov and Korulyuk were both involved in the trade. The trade was allowed but it did piss off some other GMs.
Bwwwwwaaaaaaahahahhahahhah
this made my day. McDonagh is gonna be a star, and Gomez is a 60 point player making over a $100,000 per point.
yeah…he also needs a guy that just scores to drive his point totals above that…who’s doing that on the Habs? Even Kovalev is pushing it to score 35
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
is this now
the worst post-Lockout trade?
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
Depends on who signs, but….could be.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
possibly…guaranteed if Higgins scores 20 goals
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
crap
if this McDonough kid is as good as they say, pair him with Staal and the Rangers have a good #1 and #2 D
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
imagine if Sather gets Redden out of town like this…sadly JFJ doesn’t make the trades in San Jose
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, with the Gomez trade, Slats doesn’t have as much pressure to trade Redden. Although a Heatley for Redden trade will absolutely make my day.
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greatest terrible trade ever?
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So we didn’t have to wait long to bust out the Brian Burke headshake meme, did we?
by Clawson on Jun 30, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
haha
love it
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun Facts
Poni, Antro and Blake all outscored Gomez last year.
Total Points 183 v. 58
Total Cap Hit $9/10M v. $7.3M
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God, it keeps getting better.
From TSN:
The minor leaguers coming to Montreal aren’t considered elite prospects. Tom Pyatt is a 22-year-old who put up 37 points in 73 games with the Hartford Wolf Pack of the AHL last season. Pyatt was a fourth-round pick in 2005. 23-year-old Busto registered 11 points and a minus-7 rating in 54 games with Charlotte of the ECHL.
and
TSN FINALLY texted this to me… what… half an hour late?
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
TSN is timely!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
This is better than the thread on the Pronger trade:
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My favourite comment so far
Maybe it includes 2 first round picks from the Rangers too? Otherwise, it makes absolutely no sense.
Can’t wait til the part where they learn McDonagh is included.
Next favourite
Gomez speaks Spanish, if it’s any consolation… I’m sure he could learn French easily, they’re similar languages!
gotta know what’s important in this deal.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
My Favourite
Imagine Gomez finally clicks it in Montreal and constantly get 80-90pts per season.. While Higgins last year looked like a 4rth liner and as much as upside Mcdonagh as.. He’s still a prospect.
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by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
another good one:
We better learn that McDo had an uncurable cancer or something like that because anything less would make that trade unaceptable…
I was always on Gainey’s side, but trading McDo for that… he lost me today…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
the theme arc of that thread
begins on two points:
Please not Gomez
Please not a lot of Salary.
Then it goes downhill…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
HEY YOU GAIZ
Remember when we used to wish Gainey would come run the Leafs?
Bullet. Dodged.
7.5 M cap hit for five years for a guy outscored by Fistpump.
Remember the media had a field day when Dryden couldn’t land Gainey? “ken we are disappoint!”
by The Meatriarchy on Jun 30, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This day is the best day.
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nothiung better the ole Free Agents’ Eve! Tomorrow hopefully Burka Clause comes to town!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 30, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad, so sad
Higgins had overactive hormones and Gainey was so pissed he dealt him. But all year, the sane media covering the hillbillies has encouraged Gainey to make the team bigger, the reliance on the power play and hot goalie strategy wasn’t working. On a positive note, this deal ensures that Vinnie will be playing in our new arena when Tampa moves to Quebec City in 2011. Oh, revenge is a dish best served cold, on ice.
Honestly, if you’re not on twitter, you’re missing out. Hockey fans from around the world are gathering to destroy the Habs over this one.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 30, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
Definitely
This is amazing. Habs fans are despondent and DGB is running rampant.
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Poor Mirtle… he tried valiantly to form a resistance movement and just got run over by the masses.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 30, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes it’s best to not play little Dutch boy and head for high ground while the levee bursts.
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A message to everyone who responded to my anti-Burke post by pointing out that sometimes it’s better not to make a trade just for the sake of it: You were right.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 30, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
WIN
In fairness to Gainey, if you made a list of best Hispanic-Alaskan players in the NHL today, Gomez is in the top five.
Go through all of them but I hope you don’t have to go to the bathroom.
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He’s also in the bottom 5
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 30, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Mirtle was valiantly defending him, and I agree with him that Gomez is a good player and can be a number one centre. But he’s definitely not a $7+ million player for the next five years type player. Just a peculiarly bad trade.
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I think in Montreal, surrounded with the right guys, he’ll excel. As a non-francophone, I’m not sure how much pressure will be put on him to be a team leader and voice to the media.
In New York they were Center heavy with Drury and him both competing for minutes. Gomez feeding a guy like Kovalev will do wonders for both, that’s my worry…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I am starting to fret that our celebrations may be a tad premature. Gomez is not a bad player by any means.
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he’ll have fun skating in circles out there by himself I guess. But still, I just worry about getting my gloat on. I’ll worry for the rest of us though, you guys have fun! heh
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagine how you’d feel if Burke traded Poni and Tlusty for Gomez.
That should put it in perspective a bit.
Hah, true! The more I look at it now, that contract is just so ludicrous there’s no way it can turn out to be a great deal for the Habs. At best they break even BUT that would take really high levels of production from Gomez and probably Kovalev. Probably not likely to get both going consistently.
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 30, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
yeah… that’s some awesome speed and offensive danger
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt the guy is overpaid, but VERY few players aren’t.
We’re lucky with Kaberle being underpaid at market value, but it’s impossible to find players who are a bargain
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
With Hossa a UFA he’s the 7th highest cap hit in the league, and at 5 more years. Check out the list, and while some around him aren’t great deals either, it kind of puts it into perspective just how horrible his contract is.
that Campbell one makes me cringe every time I see it…
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Antro is a stiff, Poni is soft and overrated, and Blake is a joke of a player according to every other fan right?
They all outscored Gomez and they played on the 7th worst team. And none of them have contracts running 5 more years at $7.3M per.
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Blake is a BARGAIN I tell ya, a BARGAIN!!!!
we sold JFJ short, the man was a visionary!
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
And Raycroft will be an all star goalie!(hey, Price did it.)
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 30, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s just that why would you include a top prospect and a useful player to get this type of albatross contract? You’d think Bob would have the leverage here.
that is peculiar.
were I a habs fan I’d hate this, that said, I don’t love it from our perspective either…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 30, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd really love to know how this trade went down
It honestly seems something straight out of DGB’s blog or JFJ’s memoirs. I really want to know how high Sather started before they met in the middle.
Gomez isn’t worth a 7th rounder based on his contract, let alone one of McDonagh or Higgins.
You have to imagine they started from a baseline of Gomez and Higgins and worked up from there.
Which is awesome, because it means Sather actually had the sheer balls to ask for Gainey’s top prospect to even it up.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
even better that Gainey said yes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
My God
It’s like the day of retarded GMs, and that doesn’t even include the Pronger deal.
Ottawa wants Dustin Penner as part of the package dating back to Sens’ GM Bryan Murray’s days in Anaheim with Penner and as much as Edmonton would like to move Penner and his $4.25 million cap hit, Heatley’s $7.5 million is a tough nut to crack.
They want Penner? Jeesh.
And Habs going after Havlat and Gaborik, God I’m going to love it when the $15 million dollars the Habs have devoted to their top two offensive players nets them under 20 goals.
Edmonton should just do it… getting rid of Penner for a proven scorer like Heatley is awesome. Just find some poor sap (Atlanta?) to take Souray.
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by Karina on Jun 30, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs might win the Northeast tonight by default.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Are the other teams so afraid of the Leafs improving that they are trying to get better draft position that them?
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This is awesome!
Gainey could have tried to trade for Vinny or sign the Sedins. Instead, he makes a trade for Scott Gomez, a decent but severely overpaid player. And just when our supply of delicious Hab fan tears was running low…
And Penner in Ottawa is high comedy.
Being a Leaf fan here requires one to be sufficiently lubricated!
I find this whole thing very entertaining
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
it is.
very very entertaining. and awesome.
the hab fan rage on the HF board is outstanding.
bob gainey has lost his mind. i can’t wait to see what he does next.
i hope it involves resigning Komeserik for 6 mill
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That is just over 500,000 a point, good deal!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 30, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Se-cond liner CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
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So..
The Habs are not resigning Koivu and traded for Gomez.
They are replacing an overrated, overpaid, undersized second line center with another overrated, EXTREMELY overpaid, undersized second line center.
GJ Gainey!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss the thundersticks
Also HEY EVERYONE, CHEMMY USED THUNDERSTICKS!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
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