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The draft is less than three weeks away.

In the last 10 days, three new General Managers were hired, two coaches fired, and Jacques Martin left the executive suites of Florida to stand behind the bench in Montreal.

A Stanley Cup champion will be crowned no later than next Tuesday.

Despite it being June and there being just two teams left in play, there is much for hockey fans to discuss. This is indeed a time of change, hope and expectation for hockey fans.

And so, after the jump, you'll find this week’s five questions. As it's such a heady time for hockey, we'll of course be discussing  hamburgers, Sutter, redacting the Cup, sporting nicknames and George Brett.

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When I was in university I rented a ramshackle five bedroom house from a little old Chinese lady who insisted we call her Yee.

I have no idea if that was her first name or her last name. We made our cheques out to "cash."

Yee always said her name so loudly and cheerfully it should have had an exclamation mark appended to it.

She was a great landlord. Each month when she came to collect the rent cheques she’d bring the five of us gifts. Sometimes a giant bag of fortune cookies, other times some apples or maybe some sticky rice. It was always food and, as impovrished students, it was always welcome.

Occasionally we would awake to find the house full of Chinese girls scrubbing the kitchen and polishing our floors. We weren’t the cleanest fellows I guess, but Yee assured us that we were "nice boys" and better tenants than the previous ones who apparently put a motorcycle through the front window.

All that for $272 a month each (in 1993 dollars).

My housemates from those days are now living in various cities across Canada. For the past 10+ years, each spring we’ve picked a city somewhere in North America and agreed to meet up.

More importantly, each and every year we claim we’re going to have a contest to see how many McDonald’s burgers we can eat in an hour. No fries, no shakes, just a giant pile of burgers and 60 minutes of gluttony.

I have no idea where the idea for this challenge came from, but like all things involving a group of men there’s a huge amount of bragging, trash talking and general idiocy involved.

Unfortunately, each year this all important contest falls apart in the rules process (what can I say - three of my former roomies are lawyers). Someone won’t eat the pickles, and of course if they’re not going to eat the pickles then we all have to get our burgers without the pickles. Oh, and maybe the onions. No onions across the board. And what about cheeseburgers instead of regular burgers?

Bah.

I know we’re never going to answer the age old question of just how many burgers each of us can each consume in 60 minutes. I just hope that on my death bed I’m not left wondering if I could have emerged victorious or if I would have puked near the Playland.

I figure I could eat 12 burgers easy. Who couldn’t eat 12 of those tiny morsels?

I think 15 would be the start of a bad stretch.

At 17 I’d know I was in trouble.

At 18, I’d have consumed twice my recommended daily caloric intake, 144 grams of fat and 378% of my daily sodium requirement.

Each and every burger past the 20 mark would carry some sort of punishing retribution, a mark of Cain (or is it McCain’s?) to be borne until the grease was purged from my system.

All of this burger talk leads to the first of this week’s all important questions: It’s well known that Alexi Ponikarovski is the Leafs’ resident McDonald’s man. Pending UFA Centre and former Leaf almost-great Nik Antropov is all about the Boorger King (that’s Russian for Burger King). Given their love of burgers…

Question 1: Do you think the Leafs should pursue Antropov this off-season? And as an all-important follow-up: how many McDonald’s burgers do you think you could eat in an hour (with full toppings, none of this hold the pickles crap). 

* * *

The bad news: former Leaf Gary Leeman won the Stanley Cup with the Montreal Canadiens in 1993. This may not mean much to those of you who weren’t around for Leeman’s stint with the Leafs back in the 1980s, but he was not the most popular guy in town and far from the most popular guy in the room. Let’s just say bad rumours and ill will abound.

The good news: Leeman didn’t play enough regular season or playoff games with the Habs to qualify to have his name inscribed on the ultimate sports trophy.

Question 2: If you could excise one name from the Stanley Cup - one name that would be erased from the history books, internet databases, and disappear from the surface of the cup itself - which name would go? Who would you remove? 

* * *

He’s on his third coach in three years. His team has gone out in the first round of the playoffs every year since the lockout. He mismanaged the cap so badly his team couldn’t even dress a full roster, icing just 10 forwards against Minnesota.

He signed the so-called franchise goalie to $6M cap hit through 2013 along with a no-movement clause, only to see said goalie continue to put up ever worsening numbers since his Vezina win in 2006.

This is a guy that dealt for Adrian Aucoin, a d-man with two destroyed groins and a $4M cap hit.

The team is carrying $48M in salaries with at least five roster positions still to be filled.

Question 3: If Darryl Sutter did this while GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, how many 24 hour specialty channels would be launched? How many dedicated news paper sections would be printed? How many column inches spent? Is there even a unit of measure that could capture the resulting media storm? How is this man still employed? 

* * *

I just found out that when Pierre McGuire called Luke Schenn "the Human Eraser" he was copping the nickname from Marvin "The Human Eraser" Webster, a former NBA centre who clocked in at 7' 1" and was known for his shot-blocking abilities.

Other recent disappointments in the nickname game include "Schenner" – the handle appointed to Braydon Schenn (as I posted in the comments at PPP, at least it’s better than "Schenny").

Whatever happened to quality handles like Killer, Charlie Hustle, the Baby Faced Assassin, the Popcorn Kid, the China Wall, or Leo "Snake Hips" Boivin?

Question 4: Which Leaf has the best nickname, which has the worst? Who needs a new nickname and will Jiri "NSFW" Tlusty ever really take off? 

* * *

I’m not much of a baseball fan. Once or twice a year I’ll watch a game on TV. I don’t really follow the standings nor do I have a favourite team. I hate the Sky Dome Rogers Centre with its cement sterility and the huge distance between the fans and the field.

I do like the sound of a game on the radio in the evening though. Once my kids are in bed, there's something to be said for sipping a beer or a Black Bush on the rocks while I sit on the back deck - the more silence and game sounds, the better.

Baseball may also have the greatest stories. Bull Durham is one fantastic movie (we jokingly call our boy Nuke and he even has his own Durham Bulls hat), Ball Four is one of my favourite books and Money Ball really should be required reading for sports fans.

One of my favourite sports stories comes from former Kansas City Royal George Brett.

When he was asked about his ideal last at bat, the last time he'd ever step up to the plate, Brett said, "I want to hit a routine grounder to second and run all out to first base, then get thrown out by a half step. I want to leave an example to the young guys that that's how you play the game, all out."

Could you get a better answer? Seriously.

Here’s a guy that may be the greatest all-time third basemen in the history of the sport, an automatic hall of famer who put up huge numbers throughout his career and he wants to go down hustling out a routine play to first.*

Question 5: Ideally, what would your last shift as a professional athlete be? 

* * *

*For the record, Brett’s final at bat came against the Texas Rangers. Brett was on a hitless streak and, in a scene right out of Bull Durham, the Rangers’ catcher Ivan Rodriguez told Brett the pitcher, former Jay Tom Henke, would be throwing nothing but fastballs. Four pitches later, Brett singled up the middle. Gary Gaetti later hit a home run and Brett's final act on a major league diamond was to touch home plate.

Color me impressed.

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Jacques Demers – it’s not like he can read it anyway.

by LeafFanInVan on Jun 4, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Heh
  1. Bring back Antro at the right term and price. If we want guys to take an extended development route then guys like Antro will have to fill out the roster. The burger one is funny. We came up with quite a few in university too and it ALWAYS fell apart on the rules. The only time it worked was when my house decided to do the Pluto Challenge (two loaded double cheeseburgers and two poutines in an hour – two of us couldn’t do it and one did). Otherwise we failed on: most half-pound burritos at Taco Bell, most timbits, and most Krispy Kremes were a few that we came up with.
  2. That’s a tough one. Actually, it’s not. Montreal Canadiens. Game.Set.Match.
  3. The strangest thing was the way that Ron McLean basically blamed the league for Sutter’s inability to function under the cap. That kind of incompetence is why NFL teams have capologists.
  4. Jiri “NSFW” Tlusty is a great one. There definitely needs to be a way for the media to pick up on players’ nicknames better. For example, calling Wellwood Wellfed. The Human Eraser would have been good if it was not a copycat one. Who needs one? Everyone that earns one.
  5. Baseball on the radio isn’t that bad. For my last moments in a sport I’d like it to be like Wendel’s shift against the Devils and George Brett’s: my career in a nutshell. Maybe a big hit to get the puck, winning a race to the puck, before getting drilled (while still getting the pass to my teammate) who then buries the winning goal.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of George Brett, or maybe more accurately George Brett speaking…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6403VV2oyu0

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. George Brett talking about shitting himself in the Bellagio is a story I never thought I’d encounter. I can’t stop laughing…

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

gbrizett loves gbrett

by gbrizett on Jun 4, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

#2

SCORTCH

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The single name I want off the cup is Peter Karmanos.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Great Questions

1) No. Antro’s time in Toronto has come and gone. It’s going to be maddening to watch him put it together somewhere else, because he has the potential. But our options for the Top 6 forwards slot are either hit an absolute home-run (Sedins, Lecavalier), or see what we’ve got in the kids. (NSFW, Kulemin, Grabs, etc…)

2) I’m going to take this question to mean that if I chose someone who won multiple Cups, only the one instance I chose would disappear. With that interpretaion,

I chose Mark Messier. 1994.

Because he still gets to keep the Oiler Cups and be recognized as the HOF’er he is. But by taking away his Ranger Cup, the following things would happen:

-ESPN Classic would recongize that hockey was played before and after the 94 playoffs.
-They never would have created the stupid Messier award for leadership, (I’ll spare you the rant about how fitting it was that Sundin won the first Messier award) when Yzerman was an infinitely better choice for such an award, and also Stevie Y never EFFIN LEFT HIS TEAM TO CHASE THE MONEY!!!
-Every idiot wouldn’t feel the need to guarantee their team wins. (Wait, then Alfredsson never would have made the guarantee in 2004, and… can I think about it?)

3) Darryl Sutter is an incredibly overrated GM, who basically fluked his way to the FInals in 04 because his goalie got hot, Iginla turned into Black Messier, and the big 3 in the East (PHI, OTT, TOR) all beat the hell out of each other to allow Tampa to sneak through the back door. And all that said, he’s still 10x the GM Ferguson was.

4) Hockey players have always shown themselves to be pretty unimagintive with nicknames; pretty much the only nicknames they ever come up with are taking the first syllable of the guy’s last name, and adding a plural ‘s’ or a ‘y’ as needed.

Normally not a fan of stealing somebody’s nickname. I find it hilarious that Bill Simmons refuses to call LaDainlian Tomlinson LT out of respect for Lawrence Taylor; he calls him LDT. But given the awful string of nicknames in the ESPN era, if we tried to come up with a nickname for John Mitchell, would you rather steal a nickname nobody uses anymore, or call him J-Mitch?

5) Since the obvious answer would be something like scoring the Cup-winning goal in OT of Game 7, I’ll go a different direction. My goals would be it would immortalize my career, and it would be mentioned within 2 minutes of any discussion of my career, and that it would give me immense satisfaction,

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKxV9ilsqo

That looks about right.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

1a – yes, at around 3.5 a year
1b – 19, and yes I have done this before
2 – what PPP said
3- the answer to every micro-question in there is `magic`
4- the media just needs to pick up on all the nicknames used at PPP, were good at that
5- ending the career of a player like Ulf Samuelsson, because no matter how the rest of my career had gone, at the very least I`d be remembered as the dude who gave a cheap shotting asshole his just deserts

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Number 5

Great minds think alike, Jared

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume that your video was Domi laying out Samuelsson.

I like where your heads are at.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the Link Not Work?

Damn. I can’t access Youtube at work, so I had to copy that link through Google.

But yes, it was Domi KO’ing Ulf.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason it wouldn’t open but I had a feeling that would be it.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it’s an issue on YouTube’s side. I can’t access the site right now at all

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Domi has a giant still photo of that hanging on his mantle.

It’d be like a deer’s head.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

1b

You did 19? That makes me re-think my answer of low 20s.
 I think 12 would be a realistic ceiling.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but there was a no using the bathroom rule and you had to drink a large coke too

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa

That’s impressive.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i`m a rebel

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

1) No Antro. There is better UFA talent on the market this summer who, if signed, would make a much bigger impact and provide better leadership to the influx of youngsters.
15. I could eat 15 hamburgers. (I’ve already done the TB Grande Meal in 20 minutes)
2) Wayne Gretzky. Yeah. That’s right. Gretzky.
3) Because Ken King doensn’t have the balls to fire Sutter.
4) I like Jiri “NSFW” Tlusty, but it will nevery take off because the media would figure out why he’s called that and never show in on TV as to not stain the minds of the children.
5) I’d want my last shift to play out like the ending of Slapshot with me being on the ice for the last minute of a game and then starting to strip off my gear as the clock ticked down, ultimately ending with the horn going off and me at center nice in nothing but my skates, socks, and jock.

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 4, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I could eat 15 hamburgers.

Welp, I know what we’re doing Saturday.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

pictures or it didnt happen

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Antropov – Yes. I want him back. As for the burgers I figure I could eat about 9. When I volunteered at Variety Village one year and we got free McD burgers I ate 4 but that wasn’t a challenge it was just lunch so 9 seems like a reasonable goal. We had challenges in uni. Most milk without puking, most suicide wings without drinking, some others I don’t remember or that are NSFW.
2. Jacques Lemaire.
3. I think the special edition for when Burke makes a cap mistake is already being written. Sather would have been devoured by Cox et al.
4. I agree with Jared. Any nickname that this site has come up with is gold.
5. My last shift would be perfect if it was like the Clark-McSorley fight with me being on the Clark end but then again we’d all want to be God

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by furcifer on Jun 4, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmmm

1. No. I like how this team is being molded. No need for a nostalgia tour. Thanks for the memories Antro.

2. Harold Ballard

3. I can’t even answer that question. Seriously, there are no words…

4. Although not a Leaf, the greatest nickname has to be the Little Ball of Hate, Pat Verbeek. Nicknames seem too forced now, not as natural as the days of yore. Of our current squad, Tlusy has got it hands down. too bad we’ll never hear it announced. Human Eraser will have to do…

5. I don’t think I’ve ever thought about something like this question as intently as I just did. Metaphorically speaking, I’d like to think it would be something along the same line as George Brett’s answer. Jump the boards, skate hard, take a hit, give a hit, line change. That’s the game kid…

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

forgot about the burgers

I’d rack up a grand total of zero.

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot that Ballard was on there. I want to change my hilarious vote to a spiteful one.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know it’s one of ours, but eff him right in the ear.

scratch him off, let the habs keep their names, and everyone else. Ballard’s name on there is an embarrassment

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. I’d bring Antro back but only on a low-cost, short-term contract but I’m doubtful he’d sign such a deal. I think I could do 12 burgers, but might push myself further depending on peer pressure.

2. For no reason I hate Darryl Sydor. I’d likely lop off his cup win in Dallas, or maybe Tampa

3. If Sutter were GM in Toronto and the Leafs were in as much disarray as the Flames no other sporting event would get any coverage. People would have to phone friends at the game to find out Jays scores. Chris Bosh could get traded and the papers wouldn’t have room to report it. It would be all-Leafs all the time.

4. NSFW is the ideal nickname for this social-media age and I do hope it takes off. Of note, the Leafs will lose a great sports nickname when Cujo hangs ’em up later this summer.

5. My last shift – a penalty kill protecting a lead with a minute or so to go in the third. I chip the puck out and head for a safe change.

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Love these Speculative posts

1. No, but if he wants to pursue the Leafs, keep the line open. Sign for no more than 2.5 mil, and you get one of the cheapest 20 goal scorers going. I refuse to answer the Mac D question as I do not consider those things ‘burgers.’

2. Alfredsson – he’s on there right? He must be, as he promised to win it. We all know Swedes don’t break their promises…(the bitterness level is palpable)

3. The shitstorm would be quite bad, but I’ll take a Sutter, pretty much any Sutter, over JFJ.

4. Leaf’s nicknames suck, pretty much all tied for worst/last, tho if we get the Monster, that would be epic. I’d prefer ‘The Flash’ for Tlusty.

5. My last shift? Probably something every player who went in on a forecheck has wanted to do. Chip the puck in, Goalie goes behind the net and Kaboom – give him the hard shoulder. Especially if it was someone like Hasek, or another Louganis-type goalie diver.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Love these posts mf37

1. Antro – to fill a short term void, sure. One year contract, great. If more, then has to be extremely cost-beneficial.
2. Bourque. No question about it.
3. He’s caught up in playing catchup, and it’s gonna end bad.
4. The Man-Grabs-Lemon line is a pretty cool nickname.
5. I think I’d like my last shift to cause Joe Bowan to announce “Holy Mackinaw”, but this would mean more back in the day when he didn’t say it too often. Perhaps a very nice, very legal hipcheck. You don’t see too many of those done these days. At least not the huge ones.

by lordosis on Jun 4, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

forgot the burgers

I’d say 15 would be my over/under. And just to share a McD story of my own, I once ate an entire McD paper tray covering (placemat?) on a dare. I think there was a ton of grease even in that.

by lordosis on Jun 4, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never really had an eating contest

All three of the friends I always used to hang out with would have blown me away, never bothered.

One of my buddies and I did split one of those massive KFC Mega meals (Not the cheap one, the big one.)

The only thing that was left was the McCain cake and some popcorn chicken. We finished that off for supper, then ordered a pizza.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i ate a 15 peice bucket once on a dare, i think my heart stopped twice

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother – who has always been very skinny – challenged a friend of his to a wing eating contest. His friend is about 6’2" and probably 260lbs.

My brother lost because he didn’t eat his faster, but they both ate 50 wings(the big buffalo style ones) in about 20mins, with a pitcher of Coke each.

I would have power hurled after about 30.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

speed eating with chicken is hard because of the bones, burgers are easy, the ideal speed eating food is hot dogs, but you feel like death after 23 of em

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold one end of the wing. Put whole thing in mouth. Scrape meat off with teeth. Repeat.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheating

Meat is left on the bones.

A friend of mine in high school would eat the gristle too.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemmy knows that it’s important to use your teeth to get that meat on the bone….

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to show you the scar some time.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

teeth and bones seem to be a running feature for him

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me and my afore mentioned 3 buddies would go to a local Chinese Buffet.

If looks could kill, the owner would have been brought up on charges. I ate the least and had 6 full heaping plates.

I don’t think he made much money that night.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ive been kicked out of buffets twice

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say we find one in MTL and go at it.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those with sick minds, I obviously mean eating a ton of food at a restaurant.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother used to ruin Chinese buffets, because he’d eat more than anyone else at the table and he was still being charged the Child rate.

Best buffet story ever: my dad and his roommates (all on the university rugby team) would go to Pizza Hut for lunch after a morning of rugby practice. After a couple of rounds, one of them got sick of having to wait for the new tray to come out, so he walked up and sat his chair down at the buffet. When they said he couldn’t do that, he picked the tray of pasta up from the buffet and walked back to the table.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We tried that too(pulling a chair up.) I don’t understand Cantonese, but I was pretty sure he was swearing.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

i once went with a bunch of guys from work who were all at least 6’2 210 and many pushing 300, all talking about how much they could eat and how they always got shit at buffets, when all was said and done i was 3 plates up on the best one of em

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put whole thing in mouth. Scrape meat off with teeth. Repeat.

TWSS, big time.

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by kidkawartha on Jun 4, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

I had 40 wings one night and thought I’d die.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought about Bourque. Rental cup wins don’t feel right…

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played a full season with Colorado before winning the Cup.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, most ppl don’t remember that.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bourque is still a great answer.

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he bring the Cup back to Boston?

Probably the right thing to do, but jeez…

Talk about salt in the wound.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

They had a huge rally for it too. I’d have thrown eggs.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh i remember that

but he was traded to the Avalanche for only one reason.

Of cuorse, other Cup rentals to be scratched…?

Weight?

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

To Colorado: Bourque, Andreychuck
To Boston: Brian Rolston, Martin Grenier, Samual Pahlsson, 1st rounder in ’00 or ’01

That doesn’t seem like a rental.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like the going rate...
To Carolina: Weight, Rajamaki
To St. Louis: Boulerice, Zigomanis, Kahnberg (rights), 1st in 06, 4th in 06 and 4 in 07

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one from Carolina is half as good as Rolston, or Pahlsson.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pahlson

was an AHLer. Hindsight doesn’t get you a pass…

Weight and Bourque are not in the same neighborhood quality wise anyways. My point was, a crap load of talent and picks for a rental, no matter who it is.

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it was a longer rental.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

More of a lease, really.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was going to write “Sundin” as a joke, but didn’t want to cause a shitstorm.

by lordosis on Jun 4, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst thing about the Bourque Cup was the media campaign to have him win it, at least in the States. And on ESPN. I like Bourque; yet that campaign made me never want to hear his name again.

Second-worst thing was Colorado retiring his number. What a mockery.

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by Dominik on Jun 4, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

2. Bourque. No question about it.

Fuck you, he is awesome.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hey, look, you guys had a discussion about it.

My statement stands.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 4, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Words hurt too

He was awesome as a Bruin, less so as an Avalanche. To me, all players reach a point where I feel that sticking with their original team means more than winning a Cup. Maybe not more, but moving to a new team just to win lessens what it should be. That was one of the reasons I was upset with Sundin originally.

Then again, I’m a hopeless dreamer.

by lordosis on Jun 4, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And on top of that

As a Bruins fan, are/were you really happy when he left your team just to go win? I for one can’t really fathom that. I cheer for the team, not the individual. The problem is, at what point is it justified to leave to go win? 20 seasons? 15? 10? 1? Don’t abandon ship, ever.

by lordosis on Jun 4, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes your boy grows up and you realize you need to let go. It’s not like he didn’t try really really hard to win a cup (and come close, too) with Boston. It wasn’t happening for him here, and I absolutely don’t blame him for wanting to win one. No hard feelings, Ray.

Also, he still lives around here and is relatively active in the community. He just needed to go on a little quest in colorado for a couple years before returning home.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 5, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reference for use on answering #5

Wings fan by birth. Leafs fan by empathetic association.

by SkinnyFish on Jun 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I should include a link here

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 4, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean # 2?

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I…I can’t read or write

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

William “Bashin’ Bill” Barilko

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s a good one that’s over 50 years old. Innovation in sports nicknames has really fallen off.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Citizen?

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Mark of?”

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by blurr1974 on Jun 4, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

alls i know is that if we get kane, some one has to do a wrath of Khan star trek “KAAAAAAAAAANE” rip off

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does he get entrance music?

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Big Daddy” Kane?

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the one.

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by Chemmy on Jun 4, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Big Red Machine” Kane

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by furcifer on Jun 4, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m picturing a crowd full of people wearing those hockey masks painted blue and white while that Finger Eleven song they used plays.

by clrkaitken on Jun 4, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAH GAWD~~~!!!!

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by Godd Till on Jun 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

THROUGH HELL FAAAIR AND BRIMSTONE

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Ross is in the top 10 of ‘funnest people to imitate’. 6 others on the list are pro wrestlers (see Savage, Randy and Flair, Ric).

by Godd Till on Jun 4, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

jim ross, randy savage, hulk hogan, rick flair, sgt slaughter, sylvester stalone, arnold swartzinegger, christopher walkin thats all i got off hand

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty quality. Tony Montana is up there, as is Kermit the Frog.

by Godd Till on Jun 4, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is this business of which you speak?

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

first, I would like to thank mf37 for giving me a craving for McD’s hamburgers despite the fact that I’m trying to eat healthy and slim down for bikini season!

1. No. I really have a soft spot for Antro, but I think he needs to go elsewhere now. Bringing back vets will probably impede the youngun’s taking over the dressing room, and I want different leaders in there now.
Possibly I could eat about 10 burgers. Maybe more, I can really stuff it in.
2. Ooooh I was originally gonna say Mark Messier, for may of the same reasons as clraiken, but then I saw that Harold Ballard’s name was on there and yes please take him off.
3. There is no measurement for the media storm that would happen if Sutter was our GM. Playing with less than a full roster of players because you’ve used up your cap space is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. He has definitely been lucky, but paying Phaneuf and Kipper as much as he has shows his shortcomings. He needs to go.
4. CuJo has always been a favourite nickname of mine. Sundin’s gotta be the worst, as he doesn’t have a nickname and yet was our captain for a long time!
5. As a professional athlete…. man, I can’t answer this question. I would be killed on my first shift if I attempted any professional sport.

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by Karina on Jun 4, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Great post

I love that I can come here, read about a Leafs fan’s college apartment in ‘93, see that the text scrolls below my screen, and know it’s going to be worth it to make it to the end. Some non-Leafs fan answers:

1. Cripes, are McDonald’s different in Canada?! Because I couldn’t get through three of those things without spontaneous internal combustion. Even in college.
2. Claude Lemieux. Or Verbeek. Either “little ball of hate” pulled enough dirty crap to delete the “oh, but what a playoff performer” narrative.
3. Bahahahaha! So funny, so true. The yin and yang of an insane media market. Neither incompetence nor genius is tolerated, because there are pages to fill.
4. I’ve no data (though NSFW is great), just wanted to echo the sentiment. Mandatory decent nicknames should be priority #2 in the next CBA negotiations.
5. OT Game 7 is so obvious I can’t think of an other I’d honestly rather have. But if I had to script it, it would be at home, in a goalmouth scramble, poking the puck in where I am the first one in the building to know that it’s a goal. That moment between a player’s realization of what’s happened (as he starts to jump), followed by the ref pointing his arm, and the home fans belting out the first milliseconds of that collective “…yyyyyyyyeeeeah” is a great moment in time. The sustained crowd roar is one fantastic sound; but that first “yyyy” at the beginning of the explosion is some metaphysical sh, uh, stuff.

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by Dominik on Jun 4, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

That moment between a player’s realization of what’s happened (as he starts to jump), followed by the ref pointing his arm, and the home fans belting out the first milliseconds of that collective "…yyyyyyyyeeeeah" is a great moment in time. The sustained crowd roar is one fantastic sound; but that first "yyyy" at the beginning of the explosion is some metaphysical sh, uh, stuff.

I love that moment and when it happens as a fan it’s pretty cool too.

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Dominik’s answer to #5.

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did a great job of recreating it in the Amp ads with Ryan Miller last year. Made it a great ad.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 4, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Standing O Bitter

What a tremendous post. Damn, I’m not getting anything done at work today.

1. I love Antro, but it’s contingent on the plan. I actually think he’d rule on a line with the Sedins. If we’re getting him just to get a forward, I think that makes no sense. Don’t see it happening though. And 10-12 of the burgers, I’m not a big dude.

2. Don Cherry, oh whoops! Kelly Hrudey.

3. Sutter has done a truly awful job, yeah,

4. Jiri NSFW better catch on, I invented it. After getting my tax refund, I was planning on getting a Tlusty T-shirt. Maybe I should go the whole 9 and get a jersey that says “NSFW 11” Reminds me of the Graham Rix story. When he was assistant manager of Chelsea, he was convicted of sleeping with a 15 year aold girl. A bunch of Arsenal fans bought Chelsea kit that read “RIX 15” on the back.

5. I’m working on playing my first hockey shift. Dominik’s answer is awesome. In baseball, line drive single back up the middle, or sliding triple to right, then stealing home to win the game on the next play.

by Godd Till on Jun 4, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

2. Don Cherry, oh whoops! Kelly Hrudey.

Ooooh good one. BARRY MELROSE!

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

kirk muller
Patrick Roy

i could go on for a while

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glen Sather

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by Karina on Jun 4, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Hrudey is not on it. Apparently his rookie season was the year the NYI dynasty fell to EDM.

COINCIDENCE?

by Godd Till on Jun 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glenn Healy is my new answer to #2

Has a back-up goalie ever squeezed more out of sitting on the bench and watching his team Stanley Cup win than Healy?

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call. I remember a charity game at Varsity Arena during the lockout. I held a sign I scrawled from a notebook that read “HEALY YOU BLOW”. I was a prick at 15. Later Todd Gill locked me out of his car when I tried to get an autograph. I believe I yelled something about Troy Murray at him.

Later we had a sip of beer in the back of a limo with a couple Nords players, I can’t remember who. Foote or Deadmarsh, I think…

by Godd Till on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we just need to take most of that ’94 team off the cup.
Except Ricter and Leetch.

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by Karina on Jun 4, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need to dig up the story about Matteau wrecking the Stanley Cup and having it re-assembled by some Quebecois autobody shop.

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by mf37 on Jun 4, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the one about some player punting it into a lake, i dont remember who it was

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it got dented one of the times Lemieux had it.
I heard Hasek did some weird stuff to it too.

The Cup handler needs to write a book.

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by Karina on Jun 4, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

its been forgotten at numerous times in bars too

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 4, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Later Todd Gill locked me out of his car

The nerve!

I like the way this part of the thread is headed. It’s cool by me to strike the entire Rangers 1940 squad, too.

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by Dominik on Jun 4, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had

a big crush on Deadmarsh for a while…. back when he was on the Kings.

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by Karina on Jun 4, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Later Todd Gill locked me out of his car when I tried to get an autograph. I believe I yelled something about Troy Murray at him.

I hope that it was something like “LOOK OUT TODD! TROY MURRAY’S RIGHT BEHIND YOU!”.

So, despite The Thrill being an asshole personally to you in addition to being a terrible defenceman you still honour him with your username AND defend him to the death?

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by PPP on Jun 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

battered woman’s syndrome (or the male equivalent)?

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by furcifer on Jun 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Antro, yes, if cheap. Burgers, before 25, I could do 12-15…nowadays, 6 maybe. Death follows.
2. no sure, I like PPP’s answer, Montreal Canadiens, or heck, just the word Montreal. Or Ballard, how the fuck did that happen ( I know I know, he was around during the 60s) honestly the list is long.
3. Darryl Sutter would be have been brought in with huge fanfare, and summarily executed in Nathan Phillips Square shortly before dawn, by Maple Leaf Judge Jury and Executioner Wendel Clark, solely for the fact he would have traded away Schenn for Aucoin.
4. My gf votes that calling Kaberle, sweetcheeks is the best course of action. I like Splodeybones 2.0 the best.
5. My last shift, scoring a goal into an empty net, from my own zone, or getting into a nice tussle with a great rival.

Mee-Mee-Meep Meep Go Leafs Go Meep Meep! MEEP!!!

by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 4, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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