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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
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PrintA good friend of mine had a blog post up about, amongst other things, his fairly low opinion of Kanye West and his affinity for fur. That got me to thinking about how I could help expose our readers here to the vegan lifestyle. All I could think of was this...
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Somehow, I don't think that helps. Still, I'm hungry...
- Only eyebleaf could write a post about cheering for Marian Hossa as a Leafs fan. Is it too late for me to change my mind and root for the Penguins?
- Down Goes Brown wants to take away the ONLY penalty Kerry Fraser can not mess up, unless of course, it somehow involves the Leafs. No, I'm not bitter...
- It's June and TSM wants to talk about Christmas and exercise regimens. Oh, and the "dust up in the desert." Throw in a link about a good cause and rumors of changes afoot and I think we're golden.
- mc79 has a few posts up for those of you who like your hockey X's and O's to equal something.
- Norman James can't figure out who's watching the last hockey games of the season.
- Toronto Mike talks about "Down Goes Brown," not Down Goes Brown. Or do I have those backwards?
- Leafs Leaks has the answers. All they need now, are your questions.
- Toronto Sports returns to it's highlight of late round draft pick surprises. I miss Almo...
- Puck Daddy brings us up to speed on Gary Bettman's riot act. Be warned, if Gary doesn't like how you clicked on the link, be prepared for a fine.
- I tried to think of something clever to put here, but all of Gaborik's groin injuries just make me wince...
- Garrioch says the Bruins and Kessel remain far apart. Our SBN friends at Cup of Chowdah provide the details. Considering this is "Malkin to the Kings" we're talking about, the details are sparse.
- Sticking with our circle of friends, Domink talks about Bizarro Brian Burke (aka Garth Snow) and just what to do with that first overall pick.
- The Kings have another suitor for their draft pick, but what the Rangers are selling may be too rich.
- Four Habs Fans have the tail of another prospect too ashamed to cross the pond and pull on a Habs jersey.
- For my fellow armchair GMs, look at all these rumours.
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How the HELL do you post these
At this time of day?
ONE of us should be in bed, for sure.
What’s that you say? It’s ME, because I live on the Eastern Time Zone?
And posting a message (essentially to myself) at 5:45am is borderline crazy?
Damn. I should get to bed.
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He writes them the night before and schedules it to post whenever he wants.
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
shhh
you’re ruining the illusion.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s never too late to start rooting for the penguins. Well, until the cup is awarded, I guess.
Garrioch pisses me right the hell off with this kessel crap, too.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 AM EDT reply actions
Garrioch needs his priviledgs to write about hockey revoked so we don’t have to hear any of this crap anymore.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. If only that were possible…
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Bork Bork! HA! love the swedish chef
that tricky Gaborik name got you too, Blurr.
Argh…hope the pens pull it through tonight, more hockey is good!
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions
gah
i spell checked this stupid thing like three times.
back to the gulag for me.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Question of the Day
I posted this in CC but since we were requested to move hockey talk in here:
Can Bettman get from the courtroom to Pittsburgh in time to present the Cup to the Red Wings?
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I’m hoping he doesn’t present the cup to anyone tonight, myself.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
hear hear
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i was OK
when Hossa winning the cup was an unfortunate side effect of what a well run organization can do.
But now, you’re openly rooting for the Butcher of Stara Lubovna (yes, I had to look that up…)
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t care about Hossa being a rental since he has never really become a mainstay on any team.
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the perennial rental
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
he was a rental once. with pittsburgh.
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i guess he’s a year-long rental with detroit, if he doesn’t re-sign. but dude deserves a cup.
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i still hate him, but i want the wings to win
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
So that’s twice.
And no, he doesn’t deserve a Cup.
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maybe not deserve, but i appreciate his decision to go to the best team to make it happen.
the wings are a great team. that’s how you win a cup. you don’t tank like the pens.
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Do you get tired of watching them win? I do.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i don’t b/c they’re doing it the right way.
incredible talent, a great system, always competitive, never drafting in the top 5 in multiple years (like some team from pittsburgh) …
at some point, you just have to tip your cap. what a franchise.
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You know what else used to be a well run franchise? The habs. Did you tip your cap to them?
Because I didn’t. Much like fans of non-pats teams don’t tip their hats to the Pats while they won 3 superbowls.
That’s not what being a fan is about, really. I did all of my hat-tipping and “wow they play really well” last year.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Detroit’s never beaten my team, I guess that’s why there’s no animosity from my end.
I’m not saying you’re wrong to hate on them, bro.
You wanna hug it out?
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Yeah, fair enough. I don’t want individual players to have as many cups as my team has ever had, I guess.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I looked it up on whowins.com…
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
I can respect his decision to bypass millions RIGHT NOW in the hopes of winning a Cup and getting more millions later.
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that’s the thing for me, RIGHT NOW could have seen him go down with a career ending injury, or something like that. i know, the odds are slim, but they do exist. and i’m sure leaving pitts, the team that acquired him, to go to the team that beat him was tough. but he made the tough decision. and i respect that.
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I would not be adverse to Hossa suffering a career ending injury right now…. y’know…. maybe an errant stick or something……
yes, I’m still bitter and fully of hatred.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m right there with you, Karina.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s what I posted on my blog in response to DGB and Junior bringing up Hossa/Berard:
Did you guys ever watch the movie Bulletproof, with Adam Sandler and Damon Wayans? I hope so. If you didn’t, Sandler’s character shot Wayans, his best friend, in the face, by accident. And he made sure throughout the movie to remind that it was, indeed, an accident. When I think of the Berard and Hossa incident, I think of two things: 1) Sandler screaming “ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11” at the top of his lungs to Wayans in Bulletproof, and 2) Berard bolting out of town the first chance he got.
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Berard
bolting out of town doesn’t matter, Had that stick not hit him he would’ve been a great defenseman and helped us in those playoffs….
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Berard "bolted"
because the Leafs dumped him.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
He took a year off, then made his return to hockey by choosing to sign with the Rangers.
It’s probably a stretch for me to say he “bolted” and a stretch for you to say the Leafs “dumped him.”
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my recollection was
the Leafs chose not to resign him after the accident, thanked him for his services and sent him on his way.
The “year off” was spent trying to find a way to continue playing hockey through either more surgery on his eye, or a contact lens.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s just hug it out, Blurr.
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sure
but I just want to point out what actually happened…
I think Berard got the shaft in the whole deal, however, for whatever reason, Quinn et all, didn’t want to stick with him to see if he could make a comeback.
Point being, he could just as easily been resigned.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Berard, in the end, is the one who got really screwed. I would say pretty confidently though that had his injury not been so horribly bad, he would have been resigned.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
absolutely he would have.
Still, the Leafs, with their bottomless pockets, could have shown a little heart in the matter and stuck with him. signed him for a year for his comeback….
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I could be totally making this up and way off, but…
I think there was a complicating insurance issue involved in whether or not Berard could legally play. If he accepted his insurance pay-out, he had to file for retirement (which he did).
When he decided to make a come-back he was declared a UFA and he signed on elsewhere. He also had to return part of his insurance settlement.
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That rings some bells with me, so if you’re making it up, I’m making it up with you too.
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May was possibly the worst month on record for me, so I spent it dealing with all sorts of crap. Now I’m back, as I’m hopeful that things have calmed down.
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Yes
That is how it happened. The Leafs had already moved on and signing a guy with vision problems was not on their list of things to do.
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from Wikipedia, so take it how you want it:
When it became apparent that he might play again, the Leafs stated they were interested in his services, but Berard opted to play for a team that was currently rebuilding and was a bit closer to his home of Woonsocket. Upon signing a tryout contract with the New York Rangers, Berard returned his insurance settlement and risked a comeback to the NHL. He played well enough that his tryout contract turned into a $2 million contract for the 2002–03 season.
That’s how I remember it, as well. But I’m usually wrong.
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also, from The New York Times
The Rangers are apparently not the only team interested in Berard, a 24-year-old defenseman who has received inquiries from at least nine teams, including the team he last played for, the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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From Berard himself:
‘’I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for the Toronto fans and the Maple Leafs organization,‘’ Berard said. ’’They were great. But I wanted to start fresh. I wanted to be somewhere where I could forget my injury.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/29/sports/hockey-berard-clears-hurdle-to-start-comeback.html
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gah
I forgot about the insurance payment….
that does change things. I agree with eyebleaf:
eff Bryan Berard!
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
eyebleaf FTW!!!!1
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You two are nuts
I hold no ill will towards Berard. I totally get wanting to try to get your career back in a place where you didn’t suffer a horrible injury. Especially if it is closer to home.
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Yup
But Hossa didn’t leave my team ;)
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he just took away the defensive depth that might have won a Cup in 2002 or 2003….
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rec’d
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I hate him for that part. I thought you were pointing out that my non-hatred of Hossa’s move to Detroit was not consistent for my virulent hatred towards CuJo for the same thing.
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
The only reason I’d like the wings to win is that it would make boston not the last team to lose two cup finals in a row.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too. I want the Pens to make it 7 (unintentional reference)
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Me too! MORE HOCKEY PLEASE!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Should be an interesting day. I bet no ruling comes. Stupid summer sweeps.
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of course no ruling will come, this case will carry on forever!
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Having been to the Phoenix airport
I can honestly say, it will be difficult…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow...
The Toronto Sun report also suggests the Leafs won’t retain restricted free agent Justin Pogge, once believed to be the goalie of the future in T.O.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
heh
I don’t know that it makes any sense to do that. In other words, I’ll believe it when I see it.
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It kind of makes sense cuz, you know, he can’t stop the puck. But we’ll see. Doesn’t hurt to qualify him and keep his weak ass in the minors.
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It kind of makes sense cuz, you know, he can’t skate 5 feet without getting winded. But we’ll see. Doesn’t hurt to qualify him and keep his weak ass in the minors
Hey, that looks like the Wellwood argument!
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Pogge can stop pucks, pogge just needs a year in the AHL fighting for his life without all that yoyo shit and a sense of entitlment
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
and a sense of entitlment
Maybe that’s what this is all about… Burke is trying to scare the crap out of him, before giving him one more shot.
Break him, then build him back up. I could get behind that.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 9, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Pogge’ll come back with a thousand yard stare and drinking raw eggs and cow’s blood at every meal.
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And who wouldn’t want a goalie like that?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
as much as I'm not a fan of Pogge
I still think it’s not time yet to cut the cord.
However, it seems to me that Burke must be pretty confident in what he’s got (Gustavsson!?!?!?!)
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
but still
we need someone in the AHL…. there’s who, Munro? And who else? Or does he have a trade in his back pocket for another goalie? We just don’t have the organizational depth, even with Gustavsson, to let Pogge walk.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Martin Biron has basically been cut loose by the Flyers after the Ray Emery signing. Would that be a bad option in year two of a rebuild project?
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I wouldn’t mind it, but rumour is he wants $5 mill and I don’t see Burke spending that much on a stop gap.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
$5 mil? A year? Who is he kidding? Holy crap!!! Do not want at that price, that’s for sure.
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"But if someone so eager to engage into fist talk, we can always meet after season end in Minsk." (Mikhail Grabovski and a well-meaning but not particularly skillful translator)
Burke said he wouldm’t qualify Pogge if they sign Gustavsson….maybe this is a sign
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Explain this to me like I’m JFJ… why not just resign him and start him with the Marlies? If he doesn’t play well, you haven’t lost anything besides money. If he does manage to turn it around, you have a good young goalie.
It’s not like he’s going to be demanding big bucks, is it?
Or is this just about Burke not liking the kid and wanting to flex his muscles for everyone to see?
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 9, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he’ll be re-signed, and this is Burkie putting a scare into him
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Explain this to me like I’m JFJ
I don’t have any hand puppets but I think that your last sentence is the only thing that makes sense. He has never liked Pogge from the outset. Maybe it’s a desire to ensure that his predecessor looks as bad as possible but it really is a no-win situation to let him go.
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Maybe it’s a desire to ensure that his predecessor looks as bad as possible
No, remember, Burke loves JFJ. He loves him so much he calls his lawyers if anyone calls JFJ a name.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 9, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
for what it's worth
Here’s the Sun article.
Burke has suggested that if Gustavsson, widely considered the best goaltender outside of the NHL, signs elsewhere, he will replenish the goaltending position via the draft or free agency, which begins July 1. It’s expected that the Leafs won’t retain restricted free agent Justin Pogge, one time the franchise’s so-called goaltender of the future.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Free agency is the easiest way. I’d be leery of drafting any goalies.
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I think Burke means the back up position and farm will be replenished through a combination of the two.
I’m not aware of a goalie in the upcoming draft that’s considered even NHL bench warmer ready…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It was interesting to read Steve’s piece about Reimer yesterday. Maybe he is the new goalie of the future?
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he was a Burke signing wasn’t he? Or did Fletcher scoop him up?
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
99th overall, 2006 draft
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well then
i’m perplexed.
guess we’ll wait and see…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
of course
Pogge is an RFA, and although he has minimal leverage when it comes to a contract negotiation, Burke may be using all the leverage he has to squeeze the best deal possible out of the situation.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
A list of the free agent goalies come July 1st.
Some slim pickings. Although there could be some good value in a goalie like Clemmensen.
Wings fan by birth. Leafs fan by empathetic association.
If Manny’s back doesn’t end his career, he’s actually a pretty good goalie except for the second half of last season.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Ron Wilson would chew him up and spit him out so fast he’d never have a chace to say his name….. Legace’s ego is way, way too fragile for a Burke/Wilson run team.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Legace or Fernandez?
Fernandez is broken down physically. I wouldn’t waste money on him.
Legace is terrible.
I’d go with Clemmensen just to be able to predict Cox’s stories about how the Leafs are righting a previous wrong.
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shhhh, we need to get clemmenson
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Legace has a filthy wrist shot with a goalie stick.
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no thanks
we’ve had him already and I don’t care how well he played, please move on.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Khabibulin
to tandem with Toskala.
That’s my vote.
unless they do manage to sign the Monster….
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
best case scenaro
Leafs – The Vesa – Monster
Marlies – Pogge – Renier
Worst case
Leafs – The Vesa -Gerberzerker
AHL – Renier – Monro
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Khabibulin to tandem with Toskala
Wouldn’t that combo eat about $10M or the equivalent of 20% of the total cap?
If the Monster signs elsewhere, Anderson, Halak or even Biron would be suitable and cost-effective back-ups/ tandem partners for Toskala.
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You think Khabibulin is going to be able to command $6M?
Of course, we’re talking about NHL GM’s…never mind.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Khabby made $6.75M last year. A 10% pay cut (and how often have you seen a UFA take a pay cut after taking his team to the Semis?) would knock him down to $6.1M.
Even if he signs for $5M, the Leafs would have $9M tied up in goal, which is a JFJ-esque utilization of resources.
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Only if Burke sends the Hawks a couple of draft picks for letting him go.
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You think the Hawks will re-sign him before July 1?
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no
but the picks are the only way the move would be JFJ-esque
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
what about Raycroft?
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BUT WHAT ABOUT RAYCROFT?
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We heard you the first time, but were so nauseated at the thought of him coming back that we had to go lie down for a while.
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Someone needs to start a pool on where Raycroft spends the 2009-10 hockey season. Best bets:
a) KHL
b) DEL (German Elite League)
c) Belleville Beer league (back-up goalie)
d) his couch
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e) the local coffee shop
He might want to get out of the house occasionally, and a part time gig serving coffee could be just the thing.
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He’s probably screw that up, too.
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Raycroft as a coffee shop employee
Bad news: Raycroft’s hands involved in the serving of any beverage
Good news: If JFJ is a customer he’ll overpay for everything.
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I am still cleaning chunks out of my keyboard from the first time.
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Hang ’em up as a Leaf, Cujo, you will always be remembered fondly as a class act. I even liked you when Wendel was trying to decapitate you, which is saying something. Time marches on, dude – so should you.
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Interesting rumour
That’s given rise to a theory by Al Strachan of Foxsports.com who suggested, if the Islanders took Hedman first, the Lightning would select either Tavares or Duchene to form a solid, young one-two punch down the middle with 2008 first overall pick Steven Stamkos, thus allowing the Bolts to trade Vincent Lecavalier to the L.A. Kings for a package centered around defenseman Jack Johnson.
If Johnson is traded yet again in his young career, do you think he’ll ever reach his potential? It seems to me like he must have an attitude problem…
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
Jack Johnson has daddy issues.
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Details please?
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here’s a small tid bit…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
the Kings really had a few of these loopy dads last year eh?
O’Sullivan and Johnson….
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
This thread has some info but he’s apparently using the KHL as a negotiating tactic with the Kings and looking for $5.5M per year which is ridiculous.
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Seriously? 5.5 mil a year? Do we know that he’s sober? Because maybe this is just like Eddie bribing the cops with a billion dollars…
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From a Kings Blog
Jack Johnson is not asking for $5.5 million a year, regardless of what you might read. That comes from Dean Lombardi, who would probably know such things. Again, I’ll advise the same thing I advise all the time. Pop some popcorn, read the rumors, enjoy them and try to forget about them the moment that you click to another page.
The Kings are negotiating with Johnson’s agent, not his father, which is good for everyone. There’s no real urgency because there’s no need for urgency at the moment. There can’t be an offer sheet and there can’t be arbitration, so it’s quite different from the O’Sullivan stuff from last year.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
still
great deal for the Kings.
Kopitar and Lecavalier down the middle? And I don’t think they’ll miss Johnson. He wasn’t exactly a huge factor on the team…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
and then
they give us their pick for Kaberle to fill the “hole” left by Johnson………
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I said NO
The question of who will captain the Canadian team has surely been answered by a 21-year-old kid from Cole Harbour, N.S., who can barely boast a playoff beard but who has shown, shift after shift, that he never stops trying, never gives anything but his very best.
Why won’t these journalists stop saying that Crosby will be the captain???
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
Ridiculous
And then they can start Osgood in net…
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really...?
Have we been watching the same series, cuz that Crosby kid has been flat out AMAZING.
Junk punching and all, I’m all kinds of impressed by his hustle.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
he’s a lock for the team no doubt
but there are better leaders available
Iginla for one
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
explain to me why
he’s not a “good leader”
what about his play on the ice, is not exemplary? There’s nothing he can’t do 10x better than anyone else, and he does it at full speed, all out, every shift.
Maybe it’s because i’m not saturated with him like you all are in the homeland, but he’s answered a lot of critics this year, and I think, silenced them all. He’s capable of carrying a team, and under intense scrutiny, he handles it quite well.
For sentimental reasons, Sakic would be a great pick though.
Crap, I’m agreeing with eyebleaf all over the place today…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t necessarily think he can’t be the leader, I just think maybe we should actually get the team named before we go down this road. Carts before horses is a stupid way to go about things.
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i'm fairly certain
this team is already named, on paper at least. Yzerman probably has a roster of about 30-40 guys he wants already.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re likely right.
My only problem with articles like this is that they are written in the heat of the moment. You know that if Crosby doesn’t show up tonight, there will be articles claiming he can never captain because of his inability to show up when it counted, right? I just would like these articles to be done with a little thought and some distance. The media can only see what’s right in front of them this very second.
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Crosby’s been unreal. I’d just prefer a guy like Sakic (if he comes back) or a guy like Iginla or a veteran of 2002 and 2006 that knows what needs to be done to win and what needs to be avoided to not lose. Crosby has 0 experience in the Olympics.
He can have 2014, 2018 and 2022.
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ummm
no “veterans of 2006” please.
That was a disaster…turn the page, let’s give this team over to the future, and what better stage to do it than the Olympics in our backyard!?!?
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
also
the US team is doing just that. We’re going to see a team with Wheeler and Kessel and Stastny and Pominville and Johnson and Kesler and Brown…
Fast and young.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Canada will have plenty of young and fast players but unlike the US they’ll also have players that know how to win a Gold Medal at the olympics.
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Hopefully Wheeler and Kessel learned something from Axelsson…
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
no, not at the expense of guys like Schenn and Weber.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a huge fan of Schenn, but there’s no way he even gets within sniffing distance of the Olympic team. He couldn’t crack the world championship roster this Spring.
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he was on the WC roster. He couldn’t crack the line up once they brought over Vlasic and Cobourn, but that’s debatable whether it’s because of talent or coaching.
But no, I don’t expect him to be on the Olympic team.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
what about Brent Burns in Minny? Or Bouwmeester, or Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook from the Blackhawks? all worthy of making that team…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m leery of going all out, first-timers just because the Americans are doing it. There is still something to be said for having veterans on the team, working some youngsters in, and getting the rest experience in the four years leading up to 2014.
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a sprinkle of vets is fine. I just don’t want to see a team made up of all the same guys solely because they made it before. There are tons of “rookie” NHLers who are just as capable of playing.
Don’t forget, the squad that won it all in Salt Lake was a passing of the baton type of moment, with Lemieux on his last legs and guys like Nieuwendyk and such filling smaller roles while letting the kids like Iginla take the lead.
I’m sure, no matter who makes the team, there will still be some left off who deserved the opportunity. that’s the problem with an embarrassment of riches…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s the type of team I want – lots of young guys getting their first chance, especially Crosby, Getzlaf, Weber etc. – and a few grizzled vets like Iginla, Niedermayer there. Although I really, really want to see Iggy on Crosby’s wing.
I expect St. Louis to be there too, and Doan, but after that perhaps no more hold overs… though it’ll be difficult to keep Lecavalier off. No Thornton, Pronger, Spezza. I guess Rick Nash is a hold over but there’s no way you keep him off. But yes, there will be some left off who could’ve been there….
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Heatly will be there
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
all time leading scorer for Team Canada….
I’d like to see Perry there as well although I’m not sure if he will be. But man that kid can score, and penalty kill.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, plus he can fill that pest roll to a T
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Getzlaf on the 4th line????
I would love to see Lucic there but I doubt it’ll happen.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a scary 4th line
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that line pretty much covers everything we’re hoping for. Tons of speed, youth, and grit. They’re all defensively responsible enough that I would have no problem putting these guys out in a shut-down role against Ovie or Malkin, and if you use them as an energy line, the crowd will go nuts for Lucic flying around there. (They LOVED him when he played for the Giants)
Lucic is pretty awesome.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Shane Doan?
Of all the people you could put on a Canadian Olympic team… Shane Doan?
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Captain Canada, kid….
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll be in the discussion for sure.
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Yeah
But the Captain was Mario right?
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yes
but the best line was Gangé – Sakic – Iginla, with both Gangé and Inginla being new, young guys.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
And this year’s best line might be Crosby-Tavares-Duchene but the captain should have at least done something past the junior level with Canada.
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that also brings up Stamkos, tf he keeps up his accelerated play does he get a spot?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it unless he has an unreal start to the year.
Canada is just too good to give EVERY kid a shot.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
god i love that
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i found a new one...
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you guys seriously thinking of Tavares and Duchene at the Olympics?
No chance either gets a sniff.
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That’s just me pointing out that there are limits to just putting every kid on the team. Canada is still trying to win in 2010. That is still the ultimate goal.
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of course if Tavares steps into the NHL and lights it up Selanne style, id be hard pressed to let him slip off the roster
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Every scout I’ve read says Tavares isn’t as talented as Stamkos. There are doubts he’ll even go #1. I can’t see any scenario where he gets an invite.
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except
the above scenario…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even. Crosby was doing great and he made the taxi squad and he had way more hype than Tavares and Stamkos combined.
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but
that wasn’t Yzerman picking that team.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but then last years class didnt have a Hedman or Duchene either
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
no
it had Doughty.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t matter who else is in the draft class. There’s no way Tavares is getting an invite to the Olympic squad.
Only 12, maybe 13, forwards will make the club. Make a list of the top 14 Canadian forwards and ask yourself who Tavares can bump?
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no one, i was just being difficult
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you Triple-P. Yzerman’s goal should be to pick the best team available to win gold on Canadian soil; not to worry about given young (and potentially unproven) kids experience at the Olympics.
Also on that experience, these kids might not be eligible in 2014 if the NHL doesn’t allow its players to compete.
Wings fan by birth. Leafs fan by empathetic association.
and
Mike Green!?!?
Can’t believe I forgot about him…
As the Who would say, the kid’s are alright.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Green will fill the Bryan McCabe role.
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of the overrated, high scoring defenseman who shouldn’t be on the team?
Actually, I was impressed by his defensive play in the first round against the Rangers.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I was impressed by his defensive play in the first round against the Rangers.
Considering the team I’m not that impressed.
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hah
fair enough
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
there should be a lot of first timers on the team, and I’m confident there won’t be any huge mistakes made like naming Bertuzzi.
But naming Crosby captain reeks of Lindros being captain back in 1998…. give him a few more years to mature. He doesn’t need to be frustrated with the expectations on his back, that’ll be much, much heavier on him than the frustrations he’s had with the expectations of the Penguins and Bettman weighing him down. Give him one Olympics with someone else facing the fire more directly, and then let him lead later. He needs to be allowed to play.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s not a "good leader"
That’s very different from:
there are better leaders available
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sorry
read that wrong.
do i go back to my cage now?
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Make sure to lock it because Chemmy is busy all week.
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He’s been great but is Team Canada’s Captain? No.
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If Joey Sakic is still playing next year, he’s my veteran pick for the team, and I’d definitely give him the C. He is all kinds of rudey.
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by LeafFanInVan on Jun 9, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
My order of leadership probably goes the same way, but Iginla WILL be on that team and he MUST be captain.
No problems with Crosy and Getzlaf having As along with Doan and St. Louis
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely Iginla
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Sakic, Iginla, Neids
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Must resist posting link to the “Leave Britney Alone!” YouTube crazy person!
by LeafFanInVan on Jun 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Because
if they did, they’d actually have to research articles and put some thought into them, and we all know that’s not going to happen.
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Sutter Leaving
Brent Sutter is leaving the Devils.
Maybe to head to Calgary? Or back to Red Deer?
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if he's smart
just back to Red Deer
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
shall I call
it now?
Lemaire to coach the Devils.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
i heard he was FLA bound
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He said he wouldn’t go to Tampa.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Panthers, not Bolts.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s the one
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Where’d you hear he was FLA bound?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
can't find the link
but when questioned about the Tampa consulting gig he said that it may not be Tampa, it could be the Panthers.
Wish i could find it…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he didn’t say anything about what the other offer was, just that there was one.
I’m thinking habs or devils (maybe not as coach) unless I read something else
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This
is crap.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
They’re looking at a new law in Tennasee today:
Every athlete who plays the Predators in Nashville would get slapped with a $2,500 "jock tax" for the privilege under a proposal a Tennessee Senate committee may take up today.
The Preds’ active roster would pay, too, but with a three-game cap of $7,500 a season. For team captain Jason Arnott, it’s just one more state getting its piece of his five-year, $22.5 million contract.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
what the fuck?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 9, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well
apparently, according to the article, only 4 pro-team states don’t impose ‘privilege’ charges
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
On The Forecheck took a look at that a couple of days ago. Somehow the NFL could punish the state for going after their players.
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The Titans are exempt.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Alberta taxed visiting players from 2002 to 2005. Not sure if they do anymore…the government claimed the taxes would go towards supporting the Oilers and Flames. Not sure how that worked.
Hockey players who earn part of their income by playing in Alberta will also pay part of their
taxes in Alberta. The amount of a player’s base salary that is attributable to playing in Alberta will be taxed at the rate of 12.5%.
This tax is similar to the tax levied by some American states on NHL players. The tax will take effect for the 2002-03 season and will end on December 31, 2005. The revenue raised, less administration costs, will go to support our NHL teams. The funds will come from the players themselves, not the general public.
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pffff....ya!
where have you been!?!?!
j/k. No, that’s a tid bit of trivia I’d never heard.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that what you picked up in Cuba?
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Awesome.
I have a question for you – do you know of an early/mid 70s Leaf who wore #19 and sported a full beard? Righty shot?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Only full beard I can think of from that era is Bill Flett. Would need to look up the uniform #.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So – why are you thinking of Bill Flett?
OT – did you collect ’71 OPC baseball?
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I have a few Topps or OPC from that year, but I never collected it.
I recently got some KC Scouts programs from a friend and theirs a picture of Flett attacking Michel Plasse’s crease.
Looks like a nice set – just not sure how awful it is to put together. UD is doing a clone of it this year, much like the ’79-80 clone they did for hockey.
Any neat stuff in the Scouts programs?
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Da Judge
mere existence of franchise relocation rules in constitution does not violate antitrust laws.
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Judge: This is the first time somebody has tried to move a hockey team from this country to Canada, and that raises some unique questions"
What about Atlanta to Calgary?
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good point, but perhaps it’s because the NHL moved the team?
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really. The owner was losing money, sought local investors, couldn’t find any, so sold it to Skalbania who decided to move them to Calgary.
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heh
then the Balsillie/Moyes camp hasn’t done their job.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Baum essentially not buying the four other bidders the league says are in the mix.
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woooo
that’s good news.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
IT Boggles the mind
NHL lawyers questioning health of NFL because there is no team in LA.
Just so we’re clear, NHL lawyers are questioning the business health of the National Football League.
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And Boom goes the dynamite
“the probable reality is that the NHL franchise will not last for two years. The last year of the St Louis Cardinals, before they moved to Arizona, they played in front of an empty stadium.”
-Judge Baum
That’s a blow
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That’s the worry. If they don’t come out and say that Phoenix will always exist why would anyone invest time and money into the team as a fan?
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it looks bad on the NHL that they are mentioning a team that doesn’t exist because the locals have been proven to be far too apathetic to support anything but a championship team.
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
On the issure of rumors
here’s an interesting one, and not from the normal yahoos at hockeybuzz either.
ESPN’s EJ Hradek is reporting Heatley wants out of Ottawa.
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
Him and other one million or so people living there.
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wooo
please Burkie?
well… maybe not.
Perhaps they could trade him for Thornton and improve their ability to win in the playoffs….
wait, what?
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN
also reporting Heatley wants out.
There’s a guy I’d like to have on my team. When things get tough, he bails…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
TSN
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=281356
not ESPN, doh!
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m OK with that, I wanna go young, not aging and over paid.
Still…. this could be the Sharks big move.
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Crack the code
Tim Harrington is perhaps the nicest reporter I’ve ever had the pleasure of working with, a real class guy, but I cannot for the life of me decode his typos. He just twittered from the court room in Phoenix:
Salerno says therw will be an audible gasp if and when NHLs 4 offees for twam come forward because he’s doubtful theyre real.
Anyone want to gues what “twam” stands for?
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the 4 offers the NHL claims they have for the Coyotes, i assume…
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
twam=team
Thanks Karina!
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team
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What’s the link?
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twitter.com/cbctom
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thanks
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HockeyBuzz Hogwash
The complete documentation of one of hockey’s worst frauds.
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It’s a wonderful thing, that is. Simply wonderful.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel vaguely proud for causing one of the items on that list.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jun 9, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Bravo to you, good sir!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The “Brian Burke”/Brian Burke Eklund meltdown was epic. Never has one person shown himself to be such a buffoon so quickly.
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
here’s a good way to scare canucks fans….
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Keenan should go in with a 1994 tattoo.
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Bettman's cutting it fine
He’s currently still in Phoenix.
Flight from Phoenix to Pittsburgh: apprx 3hrs 20 mins.
Game start time: 8 pm
Current time: 3 pm.
Hopefully he’s flying on a private charter.
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Anyone wanna give me a tail number? Because I have some friends in southern PA who have access to Cold War era Soviest SAMs and…..uh…..I’ve said too much.
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He’s only got to make it by the end of the game.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I forgot he doesn’t watch hockey. He’ll probably rush the Cup delivery so he can catch what happens in the Magic-Lakers game.
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Bettman will be on a private jet. There’s no security, no customs to deal with. He’ll likely get an escort to the game too.
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Still probably won’t make it there for puck drop.
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There wouldn’t be customs for anyone flying from Phoenix to Pittsburgh.
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Interesting
cbctom: Court is in recess until 1:40 local time. Bettman just left and said judge has all the facts and will render his judgment
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Cam Barker
could he be available? From ESPN Chicago:
Cam Barker is one Hawks defenseman who may not return next season. Barker has power play skill that would be desirable on the trade market. His Chicago future could be impacted because he is too similar to other players already on the Hawks defense.
Chicago general manger Dale Tallon may choose to trade Barker at the NHL entry draft for a pick and/or prospects. That would create approximately a $2.7 million salary cap savings.
Please please please Burke?
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
that
would be awesome. He’s freaking HUGE to boot…
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by blurr1974 on Jun 9, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
and to think
they chose to sign Brian Cambell to that rediculous contract and it looks like it’s now going to cost them Barker…..
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by Karina on Jun 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm…interesting. We should test how dumb Tallon is. Would he take Pogge?
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Feel bad for the kid. Maybe he’ll turn out great in another city with less pressure.
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maybe the providence bruins will pick him up, it can be the all-promising-leafs-castoffs goalie tandem
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 9, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a facetions suggestion
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Wow
The draft could turn into a crazy weekend.
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by PPP on Jun 9, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
is there no post
today about a draft eligible player to vote upon and discuss???
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