NHL UFA Season: Five Questions to Cover You Like Sherwin Williams
Ah, the first day of UFA season.
If the NHL trade deadline is the equivalent of Christmas and the draft is a significant birthday, then July 1 is like finding a long forgotten wad of $20 bills in an old pair of jeans just as you're heading out on the town with your best mates.
Some will see this windfall as a bonus to be metered out responsibly. Others will throw their money around but watch the talent go home with somebody else. And a few others will awake to find their pockets empty, their memories hazy and their stomach twisting as they realize that there’s a sleepy Jason Blake is in their kitchen wearing nothing but a Leaf jersey while making some eggs and announcing that the moving truck has arrived with all his stuff. Let’s hope Burke acts responsibly these next few days…
After the jump, this week's five questions:
There was some discussion this week as to the top five worst post-lockout trades (I can only conclude Gainey was so inspired by that fanpost that he made his pitch to Sather accordingly).
Given that this is the start of the silly season, I thought it was only fitting that we turn our attention to bad UFAs contracts. For full effect, I think we need to consider term, cap hit, performance (past and potential), cost of buy-out and how much you hated the player to begin with.
1. What’s the worst post-lockout UFA signing?
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Speaking of bad UFA signings, I have the feeling that one or two of Burke’s potential free agent signings might cause a stir amongst Leaf fans, a group who can’t seem to agree on much these days. Consider, Todd Bertuzzi is in Toronto as we speak...
2. Looking at the list of potential UFAs, what is the one deal you don’t want Burke to make this free agency season? Is there a signing that’s so malodorous that you’d question your support of the Leafs?
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There are certain words that seem to only exist in type. Words that you rarely, if ever, hear spoken in the course of normal conversation yet encounter on the printed page or computer monitor. I’m thinking of words like "thus" "hence" or "ergo." For what it’s worth "tumescent" is another word that I’ve never heard a person say, a happenstance I’m hoping to keep alive for a good long time.
One word that pops up in the sports pages, which I don’t think I’ve ever heard a hockey fan say aloud, is "élan." It’s a great word and it’s often used to describe the type of player that brings Montreal Canadiens fans out of their seats. Think Kovalev when he’s really on his game, former great Jean Beliveau or Guy Lafleur. I think it’s safe to say that fans of the blue, blanc, et rouge love them a talented guy who brings a little extra elegance on the ice.
Conversely it seems Leaf fans love their "pick and shovel" men, as Burke so recently put it.
In the horrific 1980s, Wendel Clark personified the Leafs and remains an all-time Leaf fan favourite. Other blue collar guys like Lou Francescetti and Brad Smith drew fan support that was inversely proportionate to their skill level. It seems odd to me that Leaf fans can love and support Tie Domi while never seeming to warm to Mats Sundin or Alex Mogilny.
Darcy Tucker is still loved even though his declining skills and subsequent buy-out will be carried by this team for years to come.
Gilmour was the quintessential Leaf as he’s one of the few that combined these intangibles with unquestionable talent.
I think this bias for lunch bucket guys shows in the adulation for Luke Schenn and in the polarized reaction to the drafting of Nazem Kardi ahead of Jared Cowen.
I don’t think it’s a nationalism thing so much as it’s cultural or team by team phenomenon. Flyers fans love their bullies, the Oilers like skating and speed.
3. Do you think fanbases have a tendency to prefer a style of play or a type of player? Do you think Leaf fans have a tendency to value hustle and hard work ahead of skill?
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4. When the Leafs ultimately win, do you think the victory will be all the more sweeter because of the drought and all the crap Leaf fans have been through? Or do you just want to win the cup and to hell with anything deeper?
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My love of all things Leaf can be traced back to the early 1970s.
As a kid I played soccer and baseball well into high school. The sound of Mel Allen (the baseball broadcaster, not the master of cartoon voices) or the closing theme to This Week in Baseball transports me back to a time of Pittsburgh Pirate pillbox hats and a fever for all things Willie Stargell.
To spite my father and his support of Joe Theisman and the Red Skins I cheered on the New York Giants.
But basketball was completely foreign to me as a kid. Totally off the radar.
I never played an organized game of basketball until my last year of high school and I don’t know that I ever watched a match until I was in university.
The NCAA final four was likely my first exposure to the sport. I lived with a guy who loved the Duke Blue Devils and another friend was all about the Syracuse Orangemen. I watched the games, learned the players, and lost my money on several brackets, but my knowledge of the sport remained rudimentary at best.
We’d play three on three games on weekends in the lot of the local high school or go shoot hoops to help ward off a hangover (I don’t think it worked) but still I struggled with most elements of the game. Except the trash talking.
If there was one part of sport I enjoyed no matter what game we were playing, talking smack was it.
Once, during a heated game of three on three, I unwisely called one of my opponents "A Dutch boy in the paint."
The game came to a sudden stop.
Puzzled looks were exchanged.
I was asked to repeat what I’d just said.
"Dutch. Boy. In. The. Paint."
It seemed pretty simple to me. I’d heard it a million times in the background of college basketball games and had never really thought much about it other than it rolls off the tongue beautifully, especially if you say it snidely to an opponent.
Say it with me: You Dutch boy in the paint.
It’s certainly not something I’d want to be called.
What I didn’t realize was Dutch Boy is an actual brand of paint and a sponsor of the NCAA.
Dutch Boy in the paint, it turns out, was no smack talk at all it was actually part of an intermission stats segment on rebounding sponsored by Sherwin Williams Dutch Boy paints.
In was the equivalent of calling someone the Home Hardware Home Town Hero or a Got Milk Rookie.
Some 18 years later my friends still bring this up.
I have learned my lesson and simplified things greatly. When engaging in trash talk my preferred epithet is now "cock breath."
Many of my opponents, thinking themselves enlightened, will quickly ask me how I know what cock breath smells like. The easy answer is "I hang out with your mother."
5. Do you ever engage in a little on-ice/on-field/on-court smack talk, and if so, what’s your insult of choice?
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1 – Worst free agent signing might be the Gomez deal, now, no longer NYR’s problem.
2 – Chris Neil
3 – It certainly seems that way when you go through the list of favored sons who wore the blue and white. Some were equal parts skill and hustle, but a fair bit more were all hardwork and stone hands.
4 – Yes, on both accounts
5 – No. I tend to be the cheerleader for my teammates more so. Not enough chatter to focus on the opposition as well.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
My love of the Leafs goes back to the 1962-63 season.Ballard and Stavros and now the Teachers,have never been able to shake my unwavering support.However(didn’t ya just know there was a However coming),if Burke signs Bertuzzi…I am done as a fan.
1-Tie between Redden and Gomez
2- Tie between Neil and Komisarek,just below Bertuzzi
3-For as long as I can remember,working your ass off,every shift,has earned the support of the Leaf Nation….there are too many examples to list.One of my favorites from the 70’s and 80’s era was Rocky Saginuk.Not the most talented player out there,but his passion and hard work earned him my respect .
4-I wish I was on the Leaf staff….because my day with the Cup would be spent in Montreal and Detroit…you know,just to them the fu*k up for a few minutes anyway
5- I’m 50 now…so I no longer even skate let alone play.But I was a clean hard hitter,and enjoyed the rougher game.My favorite line back then is now a cliche…My sister hits harder than that!!"
by wayne scarlett on Jul 1, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Redden
2. Neil or Bertuzzi
3. It’s a Toronto thing, which explains why Danny Dichio is so beloved in the city as well
4. Yes to both
5. Fucktard
- & 2. Agree
- Agree, but will add that it’s been a while since we’ve had a pure, homegrown scorer. If/when that happens he will be loved.
- Agree
- Since reading “selfish fuckbutt” on FJM, that’s become one of my favs.
at least if we get Burt, then the Canucks will have a valid reason to hate us, especially if he does well
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
remember how much we all loathed Hollweg?
Neil is that guy, without the redeeming dance moves.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
at least Hollweg would fight people his own size
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
and bigger
so, there’s two redeeming qualities.
Dumb as a door and funky to boot.
Chris Neil is as tough as a paper doll and a pretty crappy drug mule.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with both of you
But Bertuzzi is in a whole different class of player I hate. With Alfredsson.
Neil is in more of a class with Spezza, Kovalev, Komisarek, Koivu, Kostitsyns, Bouillion etc.
i know, just looking for the silver lining
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t Brad Boyes supposed to be that homegrown scorer? Damn you Quinn!!
by wayne scarlett on Jul 1, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
DANNY DICHIO
He is beloved in the city because besides being one of the hardest working players on the team (as well as being hard as fuck) he’s the best finisher the team has at forward. He’s not a plugger that doesn’t do anything besides elbow people. He pots huge goals.
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1- Gomez for the habs best prospect, high comedy
2- Neil or Komeserik
3- PLayers who bleed for us, thats who we love, humility and modesty are also great attractors
4-yessum x2
5- I dont talk much on the ice, I say hello with my stick and goodbye with my knuckles
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
2. Neil or Bertuzzi
3. Yes, we do. I think it is because we’ve not seen too much of the raw skill players, and so appreciate what we actually do see here. And plus, everyone can appreciate effort. I can see myself putting in a great deal of effort into a sport, whereas I’m never going to be able to score a goal using pure skill, if you see what I mean.
4. It will totally be sweeter, and I can’t wait. Soon we will be vindicated. Hopefully.
5. All the time. I’m mouthy. As for particular insults, I’m flexible. It depends on my opponent.
"If this is another one of your lectures about how we should all blah blah blah and whatever, well you can save it because we all know it by heart."
Well…the Score is reporting that the Canucks have re-signed the twins,so that takes that potential mistake away from Burkie.5 years 30.5 million each.Reported at 10:06 MST
by wayne scarlett on Jul 1, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Briere in Philly is the worst one. Although Redden is #2
2. Neil…I’d still love the Leafs, but I might violently plot to kill Neil.
3. As I grow up, my dad (a leaf fan) always told me tales of how the Leafs were a blue collar hard working team, that lacked the talent of the other original 6 teams (at least Detroit and Montreal). They succeeded due to hard work, determination and teamwork, and that’s what I cherish in players we get today. A little skill sprinkled in was the icing on the cake for those really great teams of yeateryear.
4. Yes & Yes, soon please
5. Fuck face and Fucktard are the most common, most my best stuff comes out when I’m driving. I’m more about encouraging teammates. I don’t even celebrate the few goals I score in soccer or hockey
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
Oh yes,I agree with that BTD…the 67 Cup Champs were not the most talented and were the oldest in history,but they genuinely cared about each other and didn’t work just for themselves.They were a TEAM.
by wayne scarlett on Jul 1, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Scott Gomez, A bigger cap hit than hamster for less points.
2.I think it should be unanimous Chris Neil, which probably means we’ll see him on the ACC ice come October.
3.Toronto loves a player as long as they try hard.
4. Winning the Cup will be the sweetest moment ever. Screw all the bandwagon fans.
5. I just go Hollweg on them.
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1) Redden. Absolutely Redden.Although Heatley’s contract is rising fast.
2) I don’t want any part of Chris Neil. If you live in the east end of Toronto, and hear sombody screaming “Nooooooooo” shortly after TSN announces that signing, don’t worry. It’s just me.
3) Apparently, the type of player Leaf fans like is “member of the 92-93 team”.
4) I’m not looking for a degree of difficulty here.
5) Furcifer, which part? The hitting them from behind, or attacking their fists with your face? ;p
My favourite was the time I called somebody an “expletive deleted”. That’s exactly what I said. The guy had no idea what to do.
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I think #3 is bang on. Until another Leafs team goes through that many nail biting game 7s, and takes it all the way to the cup, they’ll be hard pressed to top them.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
the only time i ever chatter on the ice is after i score a goal or when a goalie chops me (happens a lot)
my favourites are
- Your mom is a nice lady
- Nice one Andrew Raycroft
- you just got served
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
DOROTHY MANTOOTH IS A SAINT!
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
whered you get those pants? at the toilet store?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anchormen reference…awesome
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
1) Coke Freak (allegedly)
2) Burtuzzi bad, Neil worse. I hate them both for different reasons, but I think I will have a Wrap draft moment if we sign Neil.
3) Hard work without skill is more admirable than skill without hard work(see Yashin) but I don’t think it is too much to ask for both(see Gilmour)
4) I cannot really answer that question, because when it does happen I will be in such a state of bliss you won’t be able to take the grin off my face with a belt sander.
5) Always customized for the situation… people tend to appreciate get pissed off with originality
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
- Redden, Gomez and I always thought the Avs overpaid for Smyth.
- Chris Neil. I really don’t think he fits Burke’s profile. He’s a pest, but not really a lumberjack.
- I think it partly grows from the long time rivalry with the Habs. Since they had the flashy skaters, the anti-habs would be hard working “pick and shovel” guys. We want our Leafs to be everything they aren’t.
- All the above.
- I compliment my opponents on everything they do. (“nice shot” or “great pass”) It really seems to throw them off.
Is it October yet?
re #5
try “you’ve got a pretty mouth” or “nice ass” some time.
that also can be quite disconcerting.
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by blurr1974 on Jul 1, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
ive done the blowing kisses thing before
good times
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
winking works well too
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
As a defenceman in front of the crease you can get away with all kinds of grinding you’d only otherwise see during a sean paul ditty.
the opposing crease is my house, getting crosschecked in the spine aint nothing but a peanut
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 1, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
my floor hockey goalie pinches the ass of guys screening him…thats makes for the odd awkward moment
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 1, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll mention it to him for next season…he’s getting a little too Eddie B nowadays
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 1, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
1. Redden
2. Bertuzzi, Neil, Sedins
3. Hard work over skill? Yes, everytime. Love the underdog.
4. The greater the struggle, the greater the glory.
5. The best smack-talk is a cold, silent stare.
by general borschevsky on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
1. Yeah, that Redden contract was just brutal. Gomez too, was that awful Holik contract post lockout? Oh Slats, that stogie must be filled with sweet sweet Mary Jane. Oh and we can’t forget Jason Blake, the length of the deal especially.
2. I’d sure hate to see Bertuzzi in a Leaf sweater. His presence at the Jays game yesterday had me up all night. There’s no hope of it happening, but Marion Gaborik has always seemed brittle to me and would appear a terrible investment for the price. Though I should probably look at some stats before I slander somebody. I’ll stick with Darth Bertuzzi.
3. It is a Toronto thing. Case in point, look at the Raptors (yes, just for a second): Fans adored the JYD, never truly warmed to Vince even before he started his towel on the head thing. Loved Matt Bonner, and are lukewarm on Chris Bosh. Same with the Jays, Reed Johnson – Saint, Roy Halladay – Sure, he’s good.
4. Certainly all the crap that has been lobbed the way of the franchise and it’s fanbase, will make the victory celebration that much sweeter, I’m content to let this thing run it’s course. Wait, did I just say that old thrown crap would make something sweet? OK no, but yeah, you know what I mean.
5. I’m a goalie but I talk alot, I also tend to play the passive aggressive game by complimenting people on something and subsequently hacking them to shreds while bookending with another backhanded compliment like “looks like you’ve been working on your skating, that’s great, keep it up champ!” Oh, and Nancy and Roberta are my names of choice for guys I single out.
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Um....
What Jays fans are you talking to that say “Sure, he’s good” about Roy? Everyone I know loves him to pieces.
"If this is another one of your lectures about how we should all blah blah blah and whatever, well you can save it because we all know it by heart."
I was just trying to make my point, maybe I was too flippant with that particular comment, but you could probably still go to any given Jays game and count off Halladay and Johnson jerseys that you see and the number would be comparable…and Reed has been gone for two years.
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by palmateerlover on Jul 1, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think you’re right. Yes, people love Reed, but people love Roy too. And if you spent good money on a Reed jersey, you’d probably still wear it. I see people wearing Frank Thomas jerseys at ballgames, but it doesn’t mean he’s more loved than Roy. And if you look at the outrage that comes when Roy doesn’t get the respect he deserves in the US media, you can tell he is really well loved.
"If this is another one of your lectures about how we should all blah blah blah and whatever, well you can save it because we all know it by heart."
Like I said..I’m 50 now…I just hope it happens before I’m too old and frail to truly enjoy pissing off the wingnuts and havenot fans.
by wayne scarlett on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions

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