But the Things That Last Forever Are Our Dear Friendships
by wrap around curl on Jul 14, 2009 5:00 AM EDT
in From The Branches
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This needed to be shared with the world:
These are your links, cover me:
- Here are things you need; notes on the prospect at Leafs camp. Whose been eating their Wheaties and whose been pounding the Crossainwiches.
- The General with hilarious commentary of what happens when the Maple Leafs go to the horse track. Where there mint juleps? And the Cliff Fletcher picture is golden.
- Another article about why Brian Burke is awesome. Complete with his usual lovely quotes.
- This is a great question; So what the f#%k, Cliff Fletcher?
- So about that Justin Pogge...let's talk....
- The Blackhawks decided GM Dale Tallon wasn't working out and gave him the axe. Wonder if it relates to that paperwork snafu.
- Oh the New Jersey Devils hired Jacques Lemaire and decide to give it another go. They've worked out their differences after seeing other people.
- Cycle Like the Sedins is on a roll and runs the hypothetical of "what if the NHL had a luxury tax?"
Not hockey: go here for some great covers. Yes, you need a ukulele cover of The Thong Song.
Drop anything I missed in the comments or whatever various means you want to get a hold of me.
Lunch time power up;
Sir Wendel Clark, (yes I just gave him that title) is teaming up with a bunch of former NHL players to take action against bullying.
So there will probably be a game at Olympic Stadium with the Capitals and Canadiens....
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wow...
…I know the dood screwed up the RFA qualifying offers, but this feels like he’s been on his last rope for a while and despite assembling a solid young team (being terrible so long helps, see Pittsburgh). Tallon screw ups:
- signing Brian Campbell to an epically expensive contract, and he was barely even top 4 on defense.
- signing Huet without an escape plan for Khabibulin.
- RFA deals that have them floating over the cap, and no plan to get out by the season’s start???
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by blindfolded tank driver on Jul 14, 2009 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But the khabibulin issue really helped them get as far as they did because when khabi went down in the playoffs they didn’t have some random goalie in net.
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but now they have nothing in net, Huet alone will take them out of contention
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hawks got extremely lucky with their goaltending last year. if someone had grabbed khabi when he was put on waivers, or if he had gone to russia as was rumoured, they would have been f’d. huet was very mediocre.
by daoust on Jul 14, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Tallon’s mistakes really lie in the signing of Marian Hossa for 12 years. Now the new GM has to step in and find cap room because no one would take on a 12 year contract with someone who is already 30. This becomes even harder when you realize their captain Jonathon Toews and Patrick Kane both need contract renewals next year and will be seeking a much larger amount than what they are currently earning. Tallon should have only signed Hossa to a 1-2 year contract if at all so that they could keep the core of their team intact much like the Pens did.
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for some reason
I find this highly amusing, but I think Stan Bowman has a big mess to clean up now.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More importantly both Patrick Kane and Jonathon Toews are RFAs next summer and Chicago has fuck all for cap space.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never fear, Versteeg and Barker will lead them to victory!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
duncan keith too. seabrook the year after.
by daoust on Jul 14, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leafs fans: this is a very very very important lesson in when to load up for a title run. Wait for your young guys to develop and lock them up before you start throwing money around.
Chicago’s window to win a cup might seriously close next summer. Think about that.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no question, they’ve buggered things up. kane and toews scoring 70 pts each while only earning $850,000 really helped to cover up the $11.5M they spent on goaltending and campbell’s ridiculous contract.
by daoust on Jul 14, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly sort of did the same thing. They had a great young core and they took on a pile of salary to make a run at the Cup that’s significantly shortened their window.
Meanwhile a team like Anaheim moved useful assets at their peak value and while they may not be a contender next year they’ve got a good young core and a ton of first round picks.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not sure what philly’s up to. they’re over the cap, they have a tonne of big, long-term contracts (pronger, briere, timonen – all $6M+ cap hit for at least the next 4 years), and their goalie is ray emery on a 1-yr contract for $1.5M. clearly they’re going to have to spend more on goaltending next year, not to mention coburn’s an RFA next year as well. big problems…
by daoust on Jul 14, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finding deals is key to winning – that Selanne for 1 mill contract really hwlped Anaheim the year they won. This is why having a deep well of prospects to draw from is key – you have to be ready to let older, more experienced players walk when they get too expensive, an be able to replace them with cheap young guys. I am very glad that Burke refised to overpau, especially for someone like Cammaleri who could be taking someone else’s sspot, when they’re younger and better. Campbell is untradeable so unless they stash him in the minors, I think he’ll be taking Keith’s place next year.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 12:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
PO-GGE PO-GGE PO-GGE
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sucks
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by eyebleaf on Jul 14, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so does your face!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kid Kawartha...
…needs to take a look at the comments on that cbssports.com piece (the one about Burke). Previously undiscovered levels of stupid.
by Kim Jorn on Jul 14, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there’s some good ‘reporting’ in the actual article too…
They could resume now that the Leafs have added depth on defense, but if not, Burke said he will explore other options to upgrade an offense that was nearly as bad as the defense for Toronto.
Goals against – 30th. Goals for – 10th. Nearly as bad, for sure.
by daoust on Jul 14, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that never happens, except in november
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Backing up
Reported news with facts is so 1999.
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by Winkle on Jul 14, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like my blog….
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s at least one in there I’ve bookmarked. :)
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by kidkawartha on Jul 14, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
October 1st!!!1
The NHL season will commence on Oct. 1 with an opening night that includes a Canadiens affair against the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Air Canada Centre
Nice way to kick things off.
Link.
by general borschevsky on Jul 14, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Smashy Smashy!!!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be a good game. Grabovski rekindling the Grabovski vs. Organized crime rivalry and Komisarek taking on the lollipop guild.
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Komisarek first shift: POW!! Bye bye Gomez.
by general borschevsky on Jul 14, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mikhail’s like the Leafs’ version of Dirty Harry.
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by article1 on Jul 14, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOCKEY BEGINS WITH THE LEAFS.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and ends…
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The NHL season will commence (and end for the Canadiens) on Oct. 1 with an opening night that includes a Canadiens affair against the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Air Canada Centre
Fixed.
"We've had an ongoing problem with Grabovski this year." Bob Gainey, 4/04/09
by kidkawartha on Jul 14, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh god….some of the coments in the Burke article make me stabby
Luke schenn one of the top rookies last year? the same Luke schenn i saw get taught a lesson game after game?
WTF? who taught Luke a lesson? seriously did this guy even watch a Leaf game
/stabby
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trolls will be trolls. He is probably an MTL fan who is still pissed we took Komisarek
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am really excited to see Schenn come back this year, more experianced, bigger, stronger and with some targets (Chris Neil im looking at you, and Ovie keep ya head up)
its gonna be magic
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah my brothers friend saw him the other night and apparently he has bulked up quite a bit for this season. i am glad Burke and Wilson are finally instituting a training regime for the youngsters so they don’t turn into little Wellwoods.
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only lesson Luke was taught last year was how to get other people’s blood off of his jersey.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also how much malkin a schenn could chuck if a schenn wanted to chuck malkin
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Kennedy taught him a valuable lesson about what not to do during a fight.
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by Down Goes Brown on Jul 14, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Kennedy taught Luke Schenn a lesson. That lesson was that if you beat the shit out of a snot nosed brat who wants some you’ll be immortalized on Youtube.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Schenn - What's the Consensus?
IIRC, there was some discussion early last season regarding Schenn: should he be sent back down, would it hamper his development to have him play in the NHL, would he hit the rookie wall, was he strong enough, etc.
I don’t get to see the Leafs but a few times a year (when they play the Caps), so I don’t have a good frame of reference to assess his development.
What’s the thoughts of you that see a lot of the Leafs? Did he acquit himself well throughout the season? What are your expectations from him this year.
Full disclosure: Caps fan here, but do like the Leafs.
by fat_daddyo on Jul 14, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He did well and his strength was above average. He was able to hold his own in fights and take out star players when they tried to go wide (if you do a quick youtube video search he laid claims to Ryan Smyth, Evgeni Malkin and Dvorak to name a few).
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he acquit himself well throughout the season?
I’d say so. Well enough that people are talking about him being the future Captain. That’s the highest endorsment possible.
by general borschevsky on Jul 14, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
He made stupid mistakes here and there but honestly, no worst then most of the blueliners. As most have pointed out, he’s only 19, so he’s going to get bigger and smarter with experience.
As for development going properly or being hindered, I honestly think its still too soon to tell.
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by Winkle on Jul 14, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Player Quality of Competition
Kubina -.022
Kaberle -.039
Finger -.014
Schenn +.026
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luke Schenn played 17.5 minutes a night against the hardest opposition anyone on the Leafs saw.
http://www.behindthenet.ca/2008/5_on_5.php?sort=&mingp=&mintoi=&team=TOR&pos=D
That about sums it up.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oreskovic had higher QCOMP but only played ten games, so it’s likely a sample size thing.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schenn really needs to work on his shot. That’s hands-down the worst part of his game.
As for keeping him in the NHL, the worst side of that was it burned one-year of his entry level contract. He’ll hit UFA status one year earlier, likely just when the Leafs are really competing for the big prize. As per the comments about Chicago earlier, this is something to keep an eye on.
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by mf37 on Jul 14, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent all October posting that I wanted Schenn returned to Kelowna.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Burke said that you are dumb.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, BB said he would have sent Schenn down.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but then said Cliffy was a genious for not doing so!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 14, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so basically
both PPP and the Chemster were right.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like it was a can’t go wrong either way kind of thing. Only problem is the one year sooner UFA deelie!
Or if he had gotten a crippling injury in the WHL or world Jrs, but then he could have gotten one in the NHL too.
by LeafFanInVan on Jul 14, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh. We’ll sign him to one of those 12 year contracts then the NHL was magically rescind it stating that “it’s not in the interest of fair play”.
by Clawson on Jul 14, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That shot is weak.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was one of those that thought Schenn should have been sent back down at the beginning of the season if not for development then to shelter him for an extra year before he becomes a RFA. However, he did not look out of place at all. Sure, he made some rookie mistakes but he has a very calm and poised demeaner. He didn’t make the same type of mistakes under pressure as a veteran like McCabe did.
I definitely think he can improve on his shot and I also look forward to him being more physical next year. Would love to see him take the body like he did on Malkin more often. Hopefully his bigger frame will smash some opponents through the glass.
I guess we’ll never know if starting him with the big club hindered his development or not but he sure looked damn good as one of the best defencemen we had (though that wasn’t exactly hard last year).
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jul 14, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finger?
The CBS article says something like: the three big new additions join a Leaf blue line that already has Schenn, Jeff Finger and Tomas Kaberle… Since when is Jeff Finger a notable on the Leafs blueline? I mean, I am one of those who thinks he did a good job in ont getting noticed too much, probably is paid too much, but whatever…but why is he in the same sentence as Schenn and Kaberle? Maybe there is an outside/objective view that he is a top four calibre guy?
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 14, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Finger didn’t play cupcake minutes like Kaberle.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sportscup cake?
Are those minutes maybe a function of playing on the power play, against 3rd and 4th liners who are penalty-kill specialists? Is that taken into account in those stats?
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 14, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An interesting take, but if his numbers are skewed by PP time that makes his GFON/60 vs. GAON/60 considerably more terrible.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Behindthenet.ca
What about defensive forwards like John Madden and Jay Pandolfo who line up against the other team’s top line? Do they qualify as ‘strong opponents’?
Overall, Madden and Pandolfo have negative On/Off-Ice +/- ratings. A player who faced them would appear to have not faced strong competition. But keep in mind what it means to be a ‘defensive forward’ – it implies skill on only one side of the equation: goal-prevention. There is very little risk of allowing a goal when you’re facing a defensive line, as opposed to lining up across from Sidney Crosby. If Madden and Pandolfo also had among the best offensive skills in the NHL, they’d be superstars, as opposed to candidates for Defensive Forward of the Year.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are different ratings for 5-on-4, 5-on-5 and 4-on-5. Kaberle played cupcake minutes at even strength.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh right.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, thanks, I just was not sure how they broke down those stats.
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 14, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m on blogging hiatus while I work on a side project that’s due next Tuesday. Hopefully end of next week I’ll have a post ready about our defense.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finger didn’t get a chance to flex any potential offensive muscles but he was second in hits on the defence corps behind only Our Luke and Saviour. He was either second or third in shots blocked as well. I could see him getting some PP time this year.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Finger was making >$2 million, no one would have an issue with him, because he makes a ridiculous amount of money, people have problems with him.
He was a steady d-man
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He makes 3.5 million, which is > 2 million.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!
My bad I meant < $2 million.
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember, the alligator ( < ) eats the bigger number.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wendel Clark is on his way to Sault Ste. Marie to fix the bullying problem.
http://www.saultstar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1654873
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wendel: Stop bullying or I’ll punch out all of your blood.
Next day’s headline: World Peace Declared!!
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 14, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Hey kids, I’m Marty McSorley. I once clocked a guy in the head with my stick. It pretty much ended my career. Don’t be like me, kids.”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who was scared by how red Ron Wilson’s face was at the horse track?
by Chutney on Jul 14, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best username ever.
MMM, Chutney.
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by eyebleaf on Jul 14, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, thanks for joining. Watch out for eyebleaf he’s going to be mad about Kaberle today.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
today?
More than other days?
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 14, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Chemmy knows something we don’t…
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I was getting at
Irresponsible rumour mongering?!
by Leaf in Habland on Jul 14, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chemmy is Eklund?
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
I mean I live with the guy at all, but I don’t have a season ticket so I have no way of knowing if it’s him with Cameron Diaz…
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 14, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BANNED
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NAZEM THE DREAM
Has not disappointed at all. Overall skill set and style of play are being compared by many to Marc Savard.
I just peed a little.
by Godd Till on Jul 14, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes when I read that, I did a happy dance
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But is he an elf?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is 6 feet which is about 4 inches taller than Montreal’s new first line lol
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by RapleSyrup on Jul 14, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t wait for them to get run over repeatedly.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…while standing on each other’s shoulders
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 14, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…on skates
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And still shorter than Kyle Wellwood…lying down.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aww crap, I did a whole post about Leafs at the horse track and I didn’t even make a reference to Montreal Canadiens being shorter then jockeys.
by general borschevsky on Jul 14, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys are not happy with Savard, ship him to Toronto.
How he is not part of the Canadian Olympic team camp is beyond me. How does fuckin Dan Cleary make it or Andy McDonald make it and not Savard.
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not happy with Savard? hahahahahahahahahahaa…. hoooo boy.
Lucic made the camp, that was cool. I think Savard may have turned down the national team at some point in the past and now they’re being stubborn. It’s not like Canada is lacking in the center department.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jul 14, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Since Gretzky came along playing in the Worlds has been a huge issue and he hasn’t been there that I recall.
And like you said, Canada has one or two kind of good centres.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not disputing that, but I’m just saying given some of the invites, he deserves one at least.
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
He’s not going to the Olympics anyway so why bother? Better to look at guys that are actually on the bubble including this year’s candidates for the Rob Zamuner role (why God why?) to see if they can do the job.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHAHAHAHH
Rob Zamuner.
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’ll end up getting Sakic’s now vacant spot.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Kontos!!!!1
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jul 14, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Down Goes Brown on Jul 14, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that it was:
NOT DUR-NO
NOT DUR-NO
NOT DUR-NO
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marc Savard is fucking filthy on the ice. I like watching him play because you can tell how far ahead of everyone he’s thinking.
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by Chemmy on Jul 14, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy is so fuckin swift. I would be VERY pleased if Kid Kadri turned out like Savard.
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by leafer1984 on Jul 14, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Rick Nash was on OTR last night and said he’d stilll be young at 34.
The dream lives!!!
by Clawson on Jul 14, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's an idea
this is complete speculation but I’ll bet that the Bowmans was Campbell out of Chicago ASAP. Is there a way we could swallow his salary (I doubt Burke would be willing to though) and plunder some of their young talent to our side in the meantime? It’d end up being a massive package, but I could see it happening. Thing is, if we got Campbell and Burke intended to play him, we’d also be shipping out Kaberle – and I think Campbell is a downgrade talent wise, even if he makes almost twice as much money. But this would be the situation Burke talks about – overpaying for the same skillset that Kabby brings, if we want to move Kaberle.
But such a move would probably see us able to take on at least 2 young fowards, and maybe a draft pick, and not deplete us skill-wise too badly.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to be clear, I think Kaberle would be traded in a separate deal, and we’d send one of our stay at home D to Chicago.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell is too much money for too long to consider as part of swallowing salary unless it’s only to stash him in the AHL.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many years?
I can’t remember.
But we are just about the only organization in the NHL that has deep enough pockets to pay someone, what, $7.8 mill to play in the AHL.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$7.14M
Through 2016.
If it gets us assets it’s a thought but Campbell’s not exactly a chump. He’s not the kind of player Burke would leave in the AHL.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's
the difficulty. But if we get some young assets that are relatively cheap and highly skilled then I could see it happening. But at the same time, 7 years is a loooooong time especially when it’s uncertain whether or not the cap will go down substantially any time soon.
I don’t know, I highly doubt it would happen, but it’s something that is interesting to explore. Our D could be:
Komisarek – Campbell
Schenn – Beauchemin
White-Exelby
Assuming we give them Finger.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he would play terribly under the pressure of the Toronto media. In his last year as a Sabre when he was dealing with the contract, he looked like absolute hell. I think he would buckle under the pressure.
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by Zachary Zielonka on Jul 14, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Karina’s comment just got me thinking about the recent trade rumours re: Leafs and Hawks.
Does Tallon’s firing mean that those reports were essentially buffalo chips, or have the Hawks actually fired their GM in the middle of trade talks with the Leafs? If so, what does that suggest about the future of those talks – presumably, Chicago management was either happy they were ongoing, but royally pissed off that nothing was concluded (=Tallon fired) or incredibly pissed that Tallon was even thinking of making a trade with the Leafs (=Tallon fired). I suppose a third possibility remains: Chicago management was ambivalent about the Leafs trade….but that kind of takes us back to the newspaper reports being full of shite, no?
Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller?
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by jrwendelman on Jul 14, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
from Havlat’s Twitter comments, it seems like Tallon wasn’t necesserily making the decisions there anyways, so it’s possible they could continue with Bowman now that Tallon’s out.
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by Karina on Jul 14, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
The rumours came from a report from Al Cimiglia (I think it was) where he explicitly said that he had heard nothing at all from his sources. He then speculated about what deals might make sense and some people ran with that but at the heart it was my understanding that there was no contact between the teams whatsoever.
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by PPP on Jul 14, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As popular as it is to wait with bated breath over Chicago’s problem with re-signing all their young stars, I still think we’re all being a little premature here. Before it comes to losing Kane, Toews, or Keith, Chicago will do everything they can to trade/waive as many players as they can in order to ensure keeping the big three for a long time. If, however, Chicago is in the same mess next April, then yes, we have seen the ’Hawks revival come to a bitter and swift end. But something tells me that Chicago will sign the Big Three to all multi-year extensions, depth and balance be damned.
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by bkblades on Jul 14, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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